Survivor: Bahamas (Game Over, Info Reveal)

[Nyalite]

Hello everyone! Look forward to playing with you all.

Feel free to contact me via AIM.

[Nyalite]

Either day works for me.

[Nyalite]

The early scummer gets the prize.

[Nyalite]

Why am I doing this?

[Nyalite]

Mafiascum: A Mob has Formed...

[Nyalite]

Round of applause for TBO!

[Nyalite]

My only request is that we are warned it's a 12 hour window.

[Nyalite]

[Nyalite]

We can rabble if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't rabble and if they don't rabble
Well they're no friends of mine

[Nyalite]

yay

[Nyalite]

Our grammars are doomed?!

[Nyalite]

*whispers* Let's target spelling instead. I hate that guy.

[Nyalite]

Yeah Me, how rude.




Sorry

[Nyalite]

*penalizes CC*

[disclaimer: not really, and I couldn't even if I wanted to]

Not with that attitude you can't! Believe in yourself and you can do anything. Like arbitrarily penalize people who displease you! Follow your dreams.

[Nyalite]

Ok Mr. Limpet.

[Nyalite]

I get first dibbs on Klick's game design. We talked about our game where we'd always have tribes of 3 people. Although that would fit the no merge plan.

[Nyalite]

The next twist of this game: After the next round, we'll split into 7 tribes of 2. The losing tribe goes to Tribal Council where they have to vote someone out. If there's a tie, then there will be a revote until the tie is broken.

Shattering traditions. Shame on you mods. This is Survivor not "I love money."

[Nyalite]

Who wouldn't want to talk with us is a better question.

[Nyalite]

When two players remain, whichever of them has more coins left will win the reward

Is that why?

[Nyalite]

Such a jokester.

[Nyalite]

Witch

[Nyalite]

Warlock could work as well.

[Nyalite]

(Honestly I hate all Thanksgiving foods and being forced to talk to people so yeah)

[Nyalite]

Cuddly leading the revolution!

[Nyalite]

I did submit. Oh well.

[Nyalite]

That was the least dramatic merge ever. Hopefully I'll be on AIM later tonight.

Right?

Where was the firework show? Or at least some dramatic music...

[Nyalite]

Hurt: Chesskid3: x2
Heal: Cuddlycaucasian

Xalxe: 5
TheBadOne: 6
Mykonian: 3
Nicholas1024: 4
Nyalite: 3
Mist7676: 6
Klick: 4
Xofelf: 5
CuddlyCaucasian: 6
Chesskid3: 4

[Nyalite]

Hurt: Xofelf, Xalxe
Heal: Klick

Xalxe: 5
TheBadOne: 5
Nicholas1024: 3
Nyalite: 2
Mist7676: 4
Klick: 6
Xofelf: 4
CuddlyCaucasian: 4
Chesskid3: 4

[Nyalite]

I healed Klickety Klack guys.

[Nyalite]

HURT: Nicholas1024
HURT: xofelf
Xalxe: 4
TheBadOne: 5
Nicholas1024: 1
Nyalite: 1
Mist7676: 5
Klick: 5
Xofelf: 5
CuddlyCaucasian: 4
Chesskid3: 3

Should be:

Xalxe: 4
TheBadOne: 5
Nicholas1024: 0
Nyalite: 1
Mist7676: 5
Klick: 5
Xofelf: 4
CuddlyCaucasian: 4
Chesskid3: 3

Also I think he is allowed to not heal. It says "you may" do things.

[Nyalite]

I think a special commission of independent adjudicators would be needed to figure out what the actual numbers are.

They could create a report, turn it into a book and create a best-seller.

[Nyalite]

So yeah, to make matters more confusing you guys kept forgetting about me.

Last correct mod list which listed me.

-D3f hasn't replied to me, so CC's 2nd post doesn't count unless he says otherwise
-Xalxe's last two posts don't count unless he heals someone for 3 points in his next turn
-Chesskid tried to heal Mist twice in a row, so the second heal doesn't go through
-A couple people miscounted, so that is fixed

Updated List

Xalxe: 5
TBO: 5
Nicholas: 1
Nyalite: 3
Mist: 4
Klick: 6
Xofelf: 3
CC: 4
Chesskid: 4

Xalxe kindly heals me:

Hurt: Nick, Klick
Heal: nyalite, xof, CC

Putting me at 4, then Mist hurts me twice.

Hurt: Nya x2
Heal: Xof

Xalxe: 6
TBO: 5
Mist: 4
Klick: 5
Xofelf: 4
CC: 4
Chesskid: 3

Now I'm at two, but D3f3nd3r forgot to include me in his post. "And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost"

Xalxe: 6
TheBadOne: 5
Mist7676: 4
Klick: 6
Xofelf: 4
CuddlyCaucasian: 2
Chesskid3: 3

I was hoping you guys would beat each other down, maybe put me in victory range. But that's not happening.

So for my last action,

Hurt: Xalxe x2
Heal: Klick

Edit, or whatever it doesn't matter.

[Nyalite]

liek dis if you cri evrytim



Thanks Mhork

[Nyalite]

Yes, that is more clear. Thank you.

[Nyalite]

The Amazing Rave

Best name ever.

Animorpherv will be subbing in for me this challenge.

Thanks.

[Nyalite]

Probably from the

Unfinished Tales

[Nyalite]

Due to the site's recent instability, we will be accepting actions over AIM.

Tried that, don't think my message got received.

Oh well.

[Nyalite]

What time?

[Nyalite]

Fun fact: Two players on the Jury, Nyalite and Xofelf, contributed over 90% of the tiebreaker hours.

Hey, I'm only responsible for 14% of the total hours.

[Nyalite]

Can I start asking questions now?

[Nyalite]

Congratulation to all three of you on making it to the finals!

First I want to ask if you cuddly can explain something a little more for me.

The main edge I have over him is that in the case of anyone trying to take us down, Klick appeared more threatening than myself, and I was never in danger of being voted out due to there always being someone else that was a bigger target. You may call it coattail riding, but it was entirely intentional, and I never felt doubtful after the first few days.

Can you explain ways you actively worked to maintain this dynamic?

[Nyalite]

Nya: Making me have to approach her first during merge XD

That's not true I sent you a PM when merge hit. I sent you a couple PM's during merge. Plus I'd message you on aim a lot.


Actual questions -

To Mist and CC what would each of you say were your greatest strengths as a player?

Klick - Other than CC who was your next closest ally? In terms of, did you share many of your plans with anyone other than CC?

[Nyalite]

Klick -

You had a lot of success in trusting people and having them trust you too. I don't want to downplay this success, but can you elaborate on any strategies you had to ensure you could trust the players in your alliances? Or at least that were they to betray you, you were still protected?

All three -

What was your favorite moment of the game? (Other than making it to FTC!)

[Nyalite]

Congrats Klick!


Thanks for all the fun everyone.

[Nyalite]

I think it's because almost everyone was in very serious alliances already. Many were in it before the first challenge even started. Our "alliance" on Tanio proved meaningless come merge. And the people on Meto were already in solid alliances. They had no reason to speak to you or me. Until I directly confronted people about me being voted out I didn't get any where.

[Nyalite]

Is it possible to win a Survivor while never lying and being incredibly loyal to everyone you make an alliance with? That's what I always try to do.

That's also why I never make alliances until I pretty much don't have a choice. And am constantly insinuating false truths without directly stating them.

KA that's still lying. Either lying by omission or lying by misleading.

[Nyalite]

You really can't get around deceiving people in survivor. It's part of the game. Very rarely do your best interest and someone else's coincide. When they don't you have to lie to them directly or indirectly. The question becomes just how much and who you deceive. Do you make a lot of alliances knowing you can't be faithful to them all? Do you make one true alliance and other "fake" ones?

You can come up with rationals for why what you said isn't really isn't a lie, but it doesn't make it so.

[Nyalite]

This got moved to the other thread but belongs here so I am going to repost it.


I want to say a few words about Bahamas itself. I want to thank D3f3nd3r and Snakes for modding it. I know I did my fair share of complaining, but I regret a lot of it. I also agree with Shii comments about complaining during the game. It's fun to complain sometimes, and some of the challenges were frustrating. But I think it created a negative atmosphere around the game, when players all complain publicly it normalizes it and erodes the essential respect I think players should show to the mods. There is no doubt in my mind D3f3nd3r and Snakes both worked hard on this game and whatever our thoughts on what they produced, we need to first give them credit for their hard work.

So again, thank you D3f and Snakes for your hard work and diligence in modding the game.

[Nyalite]

I see all these comments in the form about the second RAF being the mod's idea to just re-use the challenge after running out of ideas. I actually planned on this second RAF from early on, because I feel that team RAF is vastly different from solo RAF.

I actually agree with this. The first RAF was not just pure Wifom like solo RAF. I actually correctly predicted the winning strategy in both rounds of team RAF, but my tribe didn't adhere to them. (I don't think anyone looked at my pretty charts)

I think the problem was the pervasive attitude of complaining started to become the norm. I actually didn't mind RAF 2.0, and it's not like it's the first time the same challenge appeared twice in one game. I did hate the essay one, but other people told me they didn't mind it. But by the time these challenges hit there was a pall on things. I am sorry for contributing to that.