NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Nikanor]

soooo has the game started, or what?

[Nikanor]

ok so does that mean the game's started?

[Nikanor]

how am i supposed to trust you if you're voting me

[Nikanor]

radioflyaaa

[Nikanor]

i hear that elyse is really well-directed in her reads, i think we should not lynch her ever.

[Nikanor]

plus it's almost her scumday
you guys are so heartless omg
can't we all just get along

[Nikanor]

i hear that elyse is really well-directed in her reads, i think we should not lynch her ever.

so matais then?

keep talking

i'll talk to you all night, bby. my number is 867 5309, call me!

[Nikanor]

Seriously though, UT's vote on Marquis is really awful.

Vote: Untrod Tripod.

[Nikanor]

well if that exchange wasn't weird as fuck i don't know what is.

[Nikanor]

thinking dethy is town
thinking gooner is scum
thinking elyse is nice
thinking pisskop is glum

[Nikanor]

hey why are people saying that mollie is scum, she seems nice enough.
except for the backhanded accusations at deathnote i guess.
hey pirate mollie why are you being mean to dethy

[Nikanor]

Also just as a disclaimer, because I forget what exactly is in there, NSFW on that link

too late. my boss saw me reading a reapercharlie post so now i'm fired. thanks a lot.

[Nikanor]

tman2nd, there's something I should tell you.
There's this thing
It's called Humour.
Sometimes people use Humour in their speech. When they do that, it means they're not being serious.
Sometimes people have bad Humour. And that's okay too.
But you need to learn how to detect when a person is using Humour.
It makes mafia so much easier to play.

That is all.

[Nikanor]

probably not sry

[Nikanor]

nah i'm incredibly sexist so i have to wk elyse
you understand

[Nikanor]

mollie, what does that even mean.

[Nikanor]

^scum

[Nikanor]

Here, catching up. What should I know before starting?

Mollie is scum.

aw come on you guys are supposed to be friends
this game is tearing everyone apart. i thought it was going to be fun but it's awful. totally awful.

[Nikanor]

why did you call me nikonar earlier
don't think i didn't notice

[Nikanor]

i'm super happy for you two but mollie i'd still like you to answer my question.

[Nikanor]

no you called me nikonar
i think that you should not vote me

[Nikanor]

because i'm a really nice guy and you'd feel super guilty about lynching me.

[Nikanor]

Read, I'm caught up and very little of any use has actually been said up to this point.

i can't remember if i called you glum or scum but it was definitely one of those two.
i find myself agreeing with past-nikonar

[Nikanor]

hey do you guys like my new avatar? or should i change it back

[Nikanor]

Actually I think I'm done being an idiot for now. Marquis and RC have sobered me, good job men.

Vote: FormerFish.

It's kinda hard to fully explain but basically he's scum for saying that he was "catching up" on an eight-page game.

[Nikanor]

um, mala has been obviously town for like four hours now. try to keep up.

[Nikanor]

You're done being an idiot yet you vote me for saying that I am reading the game? You sure you are done being an idiot? Looks like you are smack dab in the middle of that.

This is generally how I come into games when I'm unaware that they started or if I'm behind

. I would like you to go more in depth with your theory though, unless that would be too much to ask and you would like to leave your vote out there on reasoning thinner than the négligé your mother wore for me last night.

o wow if i had feelings i'm sure they'd be all wobbly rn
a) Why is it that my vote on you is the only thing you are addressing? For somebody doing a huge catchup read, I kind of expected a bit more.
b) Can you provide examples of the bolded?

[Nikanor]

mollie, what in the actual fuck are you doing.

[Nikanor]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zekrom25

pretty sure he's just stalling scum rather than mislynch bait.

stalling about what, exactly?

[Nikanor]

I can't tell if I like nikanor or not. I found his question to me about why I misspelled his name to be weird and a bit scummy, its like he is trying to find scummy things in town rather than authentic scumhunting

...did you think i was calling you scum with that question? i just don't like when people misspell my name.
also elyse's post on deathnote was a great example of how not to scumhunt, so i have no idea why you found it town.

[Nikanor]

aww you've heard good things of me??
the weird thing about your post is that you probably heard that i do weird stuff, so i'm not sure why you'd vote me for weirdness.

[Nikanor]

nobody ever said you were weird ever

but do tell about my weird post

i already told you it was weird.
do you know what would be REALLY weird?
if i voted elyse for the post that you found <3town<3
because i wanna do that

[Nikanor]

I'm walking a thin line here, so I'd rather not explain.

you know that saying "he's posting elsewhere on-site" is explicitly legal, yes?

[Nikanor]

nobody ever said you were weird ever

but do tell about my weird post

i already told you it was weird.
do you know what would be REALLY weird?
if i voted elyse for the post that you found <3town<3
because i wanna do that

do it

I am so up for helping you bus your scummates \o/

lemme start by placing a vote on elyse!

VOTE: elyse

but it's almost her scumday....

[Nikanor]

nikanor where did you go

stop playing LoL and come play mafia with me

but it's so much fun

[Nikanor]

I actually really liked Elyse's reaction to mollie's vote, so I won't be voting Elyse.
sorry mols.

[Nikanor]

I actually really liked Elyse's reaction to mollie's vote, so I won't be voting Elyse.
sorry mols.

I find it chivalrous that you like elyse's OMGUS vote

jesus fuck can we lynch this thing already

OMGUS votes are towny

[Nikanor]

i feel like there are only ten people playing this game. i really doubt i could name more than eight.

[Nikanor]

poro is scum.

[Nikanor]

if you did not want to play a game with actively bad players, you probably should not have signed up for a game on mafiascum.

[Nikanor]

gonna respond to fishy when i get home.

[Nikanor]

actually nvm i have time now.
hey fishy, you're forgetting the part in your "strategy" where you pretend to scumhunt.
zekrom, go away.

[Nikanor]

Typing on my ds so this will be short. I also asked about the 10 others who at the time had less posts and plus or minus a green crayons, the same or less content as tman.

However to answer your concerns I have numerous lines of investigation going right now and like I'm trying to give you, I am giving them a chance to explain themselves. Thats not saying follow up wont happen, but I'm not exactly in a rush here.

Besides just because I disagree with your one read (and no opinion on the other) doesn't mean my angles are wrong, just different.

Ok, more general question for you, what is your opinion on the other things going on in this game?

porochaz is scum trying to be "understanding".

[Nikanor]

the ONLY reason I am not voting you is cos nika has you as scum

how is this different from when I called Elyse scum?

[Nikanor]

why are you not seeing this

um because you said that the only reason you weren't voting him is because I think he's scum.
you even capitalized ONLY.

[Nikanor]

I am just wondering why that is a standing point for you. so you think it is somehow scummy that I want to lynch elyse who you are staying away from but you are scumreading prozack but not voting him I don't think and I am giving room to prozack cos I have you as a scumspect and suspect your vote on prozack?

you're insane.
i'm not even voting for prozac.
and i don't think you're scummy.

[Nikanor]

I am just wondering why that is a standing point for you. so you think it is somehow scummy that I want to lynch elyse who you are staying away from but you are scumreading prozack but not voting him I don't think and I am giving room to prozack cos I have you as a scumspect and suspect your vote on prozack?

you're insane.
i'm not even voting for prozac.
and i don't think you're scummy.

I do believe I said you weren't voting prozack?

but you are scumreading prozack but not voting him

so is your point of contention in that I am heavy scumreading elyse but giving prozack room when it comes down to reads match up?

my point of contention is that you voted Elyse as soon as I mentioned the possibility of me voting for her, but here you're saying that my suspicion of prozac is a reason for you to not vote him.

[Nikanor]

This discussion is tiresome let's lynch zekrom now I demand it

i can't help myself any longer

OBJECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please replace out.
thanks.

[Nikanor]

i'm not a fan of you.

[Nikanor]

I'm getting more and more sure that Zekrom's town the more votes hit him. That last vote from Ythan was poor.

i hate zekrom25 but the wagon is kinda bad tbh. there are way better lynches.
dethy is still town, not sure why people are voting for him?
votes on formerfishy are good votes.
Gooner is still scum. His townread on Zekrom should be impossible. it looks like he's calling zekrom town just for the hell of it.
Poro's looking townier for his posts.
pisskop is really obviously scum, his vote on zek is godawful, we should lynch him tomorrow or something.

[Nikanor]

the q+ function is really confusing.

[Nikanor]

can we lynch formerfish now

[Nikanor]

not rly

[Nikanor]

so vote him

[Nikanor]

posting now to say i'll post later. won't have time to post from work today.

[Nikanor]

oh hey so i read the game
Formerfish is scum but we're not lynching him because he claimed The Doctor. he's saying FUCK way too many times for it to be any flavour of sincere.
UT is probably scum protecting Formerfish with this plan. There's no way in hell UT wouldn't assume the presence of a scum roleblocker if he was town.
marquis is town so i'm not sure why he's on the table for a lynch or kill at all. pisskop would be a really good kill, fwiw. killing scum is great usually.

[Nikanor]

dethy is town too, don't kill that guy.

[Nikanor]

pretty sure that waiting to lynch a doctor claim until day two is completely pointless. have you never played a normal game before or what.

[Nikanor]

like assuming the scum have at least one non-catatonic member (which might be a stretch in this game? idk), there's no way they're killing formerfish ever. i'd rather get this shit taken care of now and not have to settle for a sub-par lynch today, thanks.

[Nikanor]

I actually don't play normal games that often. Explain.

like assuming the scum have at least one non-catatonic member (which might be a stretch in this game? idk), there's no way they're killing formerfish ever.

doctor is a nearly useless role until about halfway through the game, when some power roles are revealed and cetera.
and there's no way we're letting this guy live to halfway through the game.
lynch him today, please and thanks.

[Nikanor]

So you would rather lynch the doctor day 1? That seems like an interesting strategy.

give me a FUCKing break you FUCKing scumFUCK

[Nikanor]

your computer is broken.

[Nikanor]

my wordputer is broken.

an unrevealed doctor is useful. a revealed doctor is not.
let's pretend for a second that the scum don't have a roleblocker/strongarm/whathaveyou. do you plan on letting him live until night three or four or whenever the scum decide it's not worth letting him live?

[Nikanor]

my wordputer is broken.

an unrevealed doctor is useful. a revealed doctor is not.
let's pretend for a second that the scum don't have a roleblocker/strongarm/whathaveyou. do you plan on letting him live until night three or four or

whenever the scum decide it's not worth letting him live?

why wouldn't we do this? it boggles the mind. let scum take care of him and wrt bold kind of contradicts what you said about scum never nking him yeah?

jesus christ

VOTE: nikanor

maybe you should read the first half of that sentence. that was pretending the scum don't have an RB. if they have an RB (and since this is a mafiascum game, they do), fishy is never getting nk'd, if town.

[Nikanor]

maybe you should read the first half of that sentence. that was pretending the scum don't have an RB. if they have an RB (and since this is a mafiascum game, they do), fishy is never getting nk'd, if town.

gonna say it one more time

if you actually believed that Fishy was town you wouldn't want to lynch him. town tend to not want to purposefully kill town.

uhh i believe that there is no way that fishy flips town. i'm just saying that there's no point in keeping him alive for his claim.

[Nikanor]

who is that directed towards?

PEdit: kay, but earlier you seemed to be operating under the assumption that he was the doctor

yeah i'm trying to show that not lynching him today is kinda dumb.
i think i might just be coming across as kinda dumb.
but letting a claimed non-info role live simply because of the claim is... kinda dumb.

[Nikanor]

I'm the doctor. Hope that really made your nips hard. Exposed doc on day 1.

Crap. Not willing to risk Doc on Day One.

Considering Elyse, pacman and Deathy as my new vote.

how does fishy have so many scumbuddies? this game is crayyyzayy

[Nikanor]

Cause helping scum kill town when we don't need to doesn't exactly help our wincon.

i don't wanna live in a world where we let this guy live.
mollie pls take me to live in outer space with you.

[Nikanor]

Re: Formerfish is scummy

Which posts are being used to support this opinion?

We're pretending I did. Now that it "happened", say I'm confused by the Formerfish hate, and want some strong examples of his full-on sliminess which i will then concur or dispute, at my leisure.

Here you go.

[Nikanor]

@Yeats: You can skip the pbpa. just give us your reads.

[Nikanor]

Zekrom: Please kill Gooner. I have information that says he is scum.

[Nikanor]

i want to say that sthar is probably scum but i also don't want to risk detracting from the formerfishy wagon.
i am soo conflicted

[Nikanor]

zekrom, please confirm that you'll be shooting gooner tonight.

[Nikanor]

i thought we were lynching fishyfish

[Nikanor]

a) i doubt that zekrom25 is anything but a town vig. the only exception i can think of is if the scum have daytalk and coached him into making that claim when he did.
b) i doubt that marquis is anything but town, period. seriously, why are people voting him?

[Nikanor]

b) i doubt that marquis is anything but town, period. seriously, why are people voting him?

I made a whole post about that. Least you can do is make a post about why not. I am listening...

Or you could continue being a spectacular vig target, whatever.

either you're scum (probable) and addressing your post is a waste of time, or you're town with no idea how to play and need to be given a copy of Baby's First Scumhunting.
either way, i don't see how getting into an argument with you would be productive at all. if you really are town, i'd suggest you spend some time reading a newbie game or two to get a better feel for how mafia is played.

[Nikanor]

yeah i'm kinda sick atm

[Nikanor]

but srsly sthar, literally everything you called marquis scum for is a towntell. his ambivalence, his OBJECTION to UT's obviously flawed plan, everything.
if you're going to be an asshole in a game of mafia, you should at least have the skill to back it up.

[Nikanor]

it is about him calling me an idiot. he doesn't even know me.

skeevy-as-fuck is my middle name. i never said it was

hard

evidence. >_>

[Nikanor]

I didn't even remember you were playing.

I would feel wonderful lynching you I think.

VOTE: mala

nu.

VOTE: Mollie

can you two please be serious. these votes are both awful.

Vote: sthar8.

[Nikanor]

Good God, I haven't seen crumbs like that since 2009.

the more he posts the more excited I get about this lynch

This. Even if he is a town roleblocker, I'll be happy to be rid of his toxicity.

[Nikanor]

you guys do realize that we have only seven hours left, right?

[Nikanor]

Vote: Yates.

[Nikanor]

I'm having paranoid thoughts about despy putting in double 1-shot vigs. From what I've seen zek's level of shitness doesn't actually correlate to his alignment, so I'm not convinced by yesterday.

What?? Is this really a thing??

Look, at this point Zek is pretty much one of three things:
1. fake claiming scum
2. an SK
3. the worst vig ever - all but guaranteed to target Town EVERY NIGHT ALIVE

Which of those three do you want to keep alive right now? If he flips 1 or 2 we're good. If he flips 3, we lynch fake claiming Cabd and nail scum tomorrow.

Optimal play is obvious:
VOTE: Zek

@Mod - I'll be V/LA until Tuesday. Hopefully knee deep in powder!

this is a scum post

btw i just skimmed the thread, did anything important happen?

[Nikanor]

other than the obvious, obviously.

[Nikanor]

nika <--- I get to meet him in a few weeks woot woot!

cabd claims to have shot zekrom and yet zekrom is still alive. how do you explain that?

I'm thinking that FormerFishy protected Zek last night, and that that is why Zek did not die.
I also think that Gooner's play is pretty consistent with how I'd act around someone I plan on vigging that night.

[Nikanor]

I'm here, men. Will be voting evilpacman18 later tonight, after work.

[Nikanor]

guys, this isn't assassins in the palace. you CAN give reasoning for your votes.

[Nikanor]

Spoiler:

Not really feeling UT trying to start up a town block (jokingly or not) and also going for tman2nd, obvious mislynch bait and Marquis is disturbingly happy to follow. I'm already not reading them as scum together though. demanding answers over and over again is town.

UT's vote and post spoken about here was in post 35. a) I'm not sure how many players in this game could not be considered "obvious mislynch bait", but the number's gotta be in the single digits. b) It's post 35! Nearly 200 posts before this one of evilpacman's. Give me a break. Going after "obvious mislynch bait" at that point means nothing.

Gooner is kinda preachy, not really a good thing, especially since his vote on GC (who I'm biased for because I liked that intro post I guess) is basically a misunderstanding of why zekrom was being voted. He fails to follow his own advice on clear, reasoned reads and votes.

Meh... this is a really weak and bad attack. Would not expect a town player whose first post is #219 to pick this needle out of that haystack. This whole post just looks

Marquis is definitely town, sorry about that initial misread. mollie's not scum also, dunno if I've discussed this in the above. Elyse vs. mollie is town/town, pretty easy to see just based on the responsiveness to each other in the little back-and-forths.
fwiw, I think Former always makes too many "content coming" posts and such. he's weirdly belligerent about it here though, that's new.[/quote]

Evilpacman, that's really cool that your location is my hometown, awesome! Are you an APU or Citrus student, by the way?

I go to APU!

btw the video in 300 is frikkin hilarious

Sorry, I had a really busy week that's finally over. I just read up, I need to go back again for details I'm definitely leaning towards Deathnote, Gooner, zekrom scum. Possibly UT though I don't see him buddying Deathnote and/or zekrom.

About zekrom, tman, pisskop, and RC, we have (or had, tman and pisskop are doing better now) four people acting like noobs and being essentially unreadable, earlier in the game I would've pegged pisskop for scum ahead of zekrom. Not really anymore though, barring a convincing full-claim after that ridiculous softclaim (that I'm inclined not to believe just based on "at least one night").

Have to look at Elyse again but I was reading her as town I think.

oh wait I didn't even finish that thought in the middle paragraph. Basically I was gonna say it's some fake scum shit that zekrom is the only one drawing votes when the four of those were sucking it up real hard, but idk anymore since he's probably actually scum.

psst epm I'm voting DN right now and was voting zekrom before I wasn't buddying them. did you even read the game?

Sorry I must have spaced out, I meant I didn't see you being scum with them because of your pushing both of them.
And about Gooner, I think GC saw some stuff about UT's early game in that post that I agreed with, so I liked it even though it was succinct.

Welp that's a scum claim/confirmation of UT town

vote: Zekrom

Prod dodge for now, be back in a couple hours to post.

unvote

Jesus. Remind me never to play two games again. Catching up.

read the last 10 pages. sthar caught my attention.

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

Oh well in 987 sthar specifically says "VI is not a read"
well
1. yes it is (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all)
2. so you completely avoided posting reads in your read list

it's interesting who fell for those posts and started town reading you when they're both terrible too. Maybe some scumbuddies in there, who knows

I'm going to sleep, it's 4:30AM but I had a few other people I was gonna look into. Needa figure out UT, not reading Deathnote as scum so much anymore and zekrom will sort itself out so my UT read isn't as bound to association tells, have to re-evaluate. Don't like Gooner. or pisskop a little

Lots of townreads too:
Marquis, mollie, elyse, nikanor, ythan, RC, Yates, Fish, GC, PV...

good night

vote: sthar

vig: pisskop

Well this has sorted itself out nicely, like I figured. I'll be voting zekrom whenever people are ready.
It's kind of hard to figure out alignments when people are just voting confirmed scum.
Actually yeah that makes me kind of want to end today, idk what talking can be done now that can't be done more effectively once we have lynched scum and a night kill or two.
I wouldn't think for a second that there's two one shot vigs

vote: zekrom

unvote

I hope nobody still thinks Marquis is scum

oh we're back in action. Nikanor I'm still looking forward to your case on me.

vote: pisskop

[Nikanor]

Fucking cat somehow found the big bad SUBMIT button. AGH, annoying.

@Mod: Can you spoiler that post please, to clean up some thread clutter?

[Nikanor]

Honestly, the one thing that got me looking at evilpacman18 was this:

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

This post is written at a time when sthar is already taking a lot of heat, but only has three votes on him. And the entire post is bullshit! "Intentional dissonance," REALLY? evilpacman18 doesn't even vote sthar until two other people hop on the wagon, making this post even worse, since sthar didn't post a single thing in that time.

[Nikanor]

It really looks like epm is scum who didn't want to commit to the sthar wagon until it gained traction.

Vote: evilpacman18.

[Nikanor]

I'd really recommend looking at evilpacman18's iso (shown above) for examples of scum-scum interactions with Zekrom.

[Nikanor]

I looked at serra's iso, and his first two posts (the vote and unvote of Zekrom) look legit to me? No idea why he'd jump off the Zekrom wagon when it was clear that he was going to be lynched.
I'd love to see his reasoning for the Yates vote tho

[Nikanor]

Honestly, the one thing that got me looking at evilpacman18 was this:

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

This post is written at a time when sthar is already taking a lot of heat, but only has three votes on him. And the entire post is bullshit! "Intentional dissonance," REALLY? evilpacman18 doesn't even vote sthar until two other people hop on the wagon, making this post even worse, since sthar didn't post a single thing in that time.

VOTE: NIK

last time someone said 'honestly' during a post they were scum. Sayin 'honestly' is a classic scum tell because if you were already honest about it you didn't need to emphasize honestly

I was going to go through every post of evilpacman18's and make up some bullshit tell on everything he said, hoping it'd get him lynched. Instead, I decided to point out the one post that I actually found scummy. Hence the "honestly".

[Nikanor]

You're voting me based on one post?

Yeap!
Strange how you don't seem to take issue with everyone else who is voting ME based on one post. Really really strange!

[Nikanor]

UT is probably scum too, fwiw.

[Nikanor]

So Nik...

Zekrom: Please kill Gooner. I have information that says he is scum.

Is this serious? I'm not going to read the whole game. Spare me the drama and tell me.

It wasn't serious.

[Nikanor]

Actually,

Vote: Yates.

[Nikanor]

Sorry guys I'm moving out of town next week so I don't have a lot of spare time lately. Should get better after I move.
don't have time to read atm, tomorrow tho.

[Nikanor]

Look the day started again......

Starting to think I should replace out based off how little I care about the players in this game. No enthusiasm.

I think Nikanor is a good lynch today.

This discussion is tiresome let's lynch zekrom now I demand it

i can't help myself any longer

OBJECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please replace out.
thanks.

i'm not a fan of you.

I'm getting more and more sure that Zekrom's town the more votes hit him. That last vote from Ythan was poor.

i hate zekrom25 but the wagon is kinda bad tbh. there are way better lynches.
dethy is still town, not sure why people are voting for him?
votes on formerfishy are good votes.
Gooner is still scum. His townread on Zekrom should be impossible. it looks like he's calling zekrom town just for the hell of it.
Poro's looking townier for his posts.
pisskop is really obviously scum, his vote on zek is godawful, we should lynch him tomorrow or something.

These quotes all indicate Nikanor's strong dislike for Zek but no intention to vote him.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5666371
Indicates my dislike for Zekrom in a game where we're both town. Zekrom is just a really detestable person, I wasn't voting for him because I didn't really think he was scum.

In face, Nik calls Zek town... there was no problem with this back then but based off this next post.

a) i doubt that zekrom25 is anything but a town vig. the only exception i can think of is if the scum have daytalk and coached him into making that claim when he did.

Yeah Nik is probably scum that was pissed off at Zek for his bad play then coached him into a claim using day talk. I consider this post a slip.

vote: nikanor

Can we please put on our thinking caps for half a second? That quote makes absolutely no sense as a slip. Why would I bring up daytalking if I knew that it was actually the case?

[Nikanor]

And yes I know that that^ is WIFOM but IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE. I'm going to be sincerely pissed if I'm lynched for the one thing that I was right about this game.
I'm finally settled into a new place (i.e. dramonic's living room), posts should come more frequently now.

Vote: Yates.

Can't really explain why I think this guy is scum, but I really think this guy is scum. I think it has something to do with him asking the wrong questions (such as his question to Marquise in 1986 (the post, not the year)). It looks like he's trying to gather information that really has nothing to do with finding scum.

[Nikanor]

Maybe I am misunderstanding the word slip but in this situation, it appears as if you brought up day talk because that is what is on your mind. You slipped by revealing info about your team's powers (daytalk).

Honestly? I think that if anything, your attack on me makes you scum. I'm guessing that the only reason for why you remembered that quote of mine is because you knew that you could call me scum for it once Mala flipped.
And if you're town... saying "I don't care about counter-arguments because I know I'm right!!!" Is incredibly arrogant and a bad way to play mafia.

[Nikanor]

I think it has something to do with him asking the wrong questions (such as his question to Marquise in 1986)

Once Marquis answers the question you won't be able to say this and expect anyone to believe it.

a) I doubt that he will answer the question. If he wanted to be clear with his statement, he'd have been clear in the first place.
b) If he does answer, I REALLY doubt that the answer will make you look any flavour of good.

[Nikanor]

@Nik- Need a little more info than that to get a Yates vote out of me. You got any concrete based?

Does his ISO count?

[Nikanor]

Townie.

[Nikanor]

The worst part about being town is that you're not allowed to fakeclaim.

[Nikanor]

posting from phone from bar, btw.

Vote: serrapaladin.

Brings it to 7/6 "in my favour", for lack of a better phrase.
don't really think he's scum tbqh but tbqph i haven't really read his posts, either.