NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: elyse

competing wagons gogogogo

[pirate mollie]

i hear that elyse is really well-directed in her reads, i think we should not lynch her ever.

so matais then?

keep talking

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: elyse

competing wagons gogogogo

Why me?

naked third vote on a player that you are not trying to figure out for starters. we can work from there

[pirate mollie]

eta: what do you think of nikanor's wking I think it is kind of sweet

[pirate mollie]

Seriously though, UT's vote on Marquis is really awful.

Vote: Untrod Tripod.

yabbut not yet. elyse's reactions seem most infinitely interesting to me

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: utVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

I honestly think you might be town in this game.

[pirate mollie]

deathy can not be scum in the first 5 pages it confuses me

how am supposed to properly bus my scumbuddies!

plz help

[pirate mollie]

vote mollie

She is possibly scum.

vote elyse who is probably scum.

[pirate mollie]

SHINY THINGS!!!!!

lets lynch elyse now so that I can get awsum towncred

[pirate mollie]

ramp just do it I know you want to

[pirate mollie]

did I say I did? I didn't think so.

[pirate mollie]

jesus christ

[pirate mollie]

does anybody have experience with gooner

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: elyse

competing wagons gogogogo

Why me?

naked third vote on a player that you are not trying to figure out for starters. we can work from there

What do you mean I am not trying to figure him out?

eta: what do you think of nikanor's wking I think it is kind of sweet

What white knighting?

1. it means you are not trying to figure him out. if you were did you think the vote would have helped you and if so what have you accomplished?

2. the wking that he did? I am wondering how you could have missed it.

[pirate mollie]

deathy will you plz help me bus her it is either her or you and I really don't care which except I am more sentimental about you so can we lynch plz your

scummate

dear friend elyse now tia

[pirate mollie]

okay so what do you think of her read on you?

[pirate mollie]

hey why are people saying that mollie is scum, she seems nice enough.
except for the backhanded accusations at deathnote i guess.
hey pirate mollie why are you being mean to dethy

cos you guyz are scum

will you plz help me lynch elyse or deathy

[pirate mollie]

see that is sort of damning

[pirate mollie]

I do understand. mebbe we should lynch you since you are the weak link

VOTE: nikanor[/vote

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: nikanor

[pirate mollie]

Mollie stop ignoring me

I am not ignoring you.

I answered you and told you why you I thought you were scum.

stop trying to pretend otherwise.

[pirate mollie]

yes I did

[pirate mollie]

Mollie can you just be helpful and quote it because all you said was that I wasn't trying to figure nikanor out three posts into the game and that's not a legitimate reason.

so why did you vote him?

[pirate mollie]

I can go for a tman lynch

[pirate mollie]

RVS

Did you think my vote on him was serious??? What reason could I possibly have had to seriously place a vote on him at that point?

but then elyse makes posts like this and I want to run it into the ground

you are awkward as shit and if it was not a srs vote then why would you make it and then ignore it? I even gave you an out

[pirate mollie]

What are you talking about?

I joined a RVS bandwagon for fun and you're acting like I placed a serious vote on Nikanor and he was white knighting me when in reality it was a meaningless RVS vote and he was joking.

I had no idea cos it was a naked vote and third on the wagon.

so you have nikonar as town?

[pirate mollie]

I like green crayons but it might possibly mean they are scum

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: elyse

competing wagons gogogogo

Why me?

naked third vote on a player that you are not trying to figure out for starters. we can work from there

What do you mean I am not trying to figure him out?

eta: what do you think of nikanor's wking I think it is kind of sweet

What white knighting?

looks like a bus

1. it means you are not trying to figure him out. if you were did you think the vote would have helped you and if so what have you accomplished?

2. the wking that he did? I am wondering how you could have missed it.

What could I possibly have discerned from his alignment at the time I voted? Are you being serious?

If you mean when he said, "I don't think we should lynch her, she is well directed in her reads", I'm pretty sure that was a joke in reference to my signature. This was followed by saying he doesn't want to lynch me because my scumday is coming up. How does that constitute as white knighting?

Attempting to discredit my vote by saying weird=/=scum isn't going to work. The basis of my vote wasn't strictly because he is a weird player.

All three of those posts that I quoted- 15, 20, and 34 had one common factor and that was him pushing mislynches, even if it was in a joking, "weird" way. You want to mess around like that once, fine... but when you consistently posting in an anti-town fashion, the I feel that warrants a vote.

Ok...so why did you pretend you didn't see my interaction with mollie when you clearly did and why did you rely on mollie's opinion rather than choosing your own? Also you didn't follow up on that question when mollie answered it so I assume it wasn't important...which brings me back to why you pretended to not see it.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: elyse

competing wagons gogogogo

Why me?

naked third vote on a player that you are not trying to figure out for starters. we can work from there

What do you mean I am not trying to figure him out?

eta: what do you think of nikanor's wking I think it is kind of sweet

What white knighting?

1. it means you are not trying to figure him out. if you were did you think the vote would have helped you and if so what have you accomplished?

2. the wking that he did? I am wondering how you could have missed it.

What could I possibly have discerned from his alignment at the time I voted? Are you being serious?

If you mean when he said, "I don't think we should lynch her, she is well directed in her reads", I'm pretty sure that was a joke in reference to my signature. This was followed by saying he doesn't want to lynch me because my scumday is coming up. How does that constitute as white knighting?

Attempting to discredit my vote by saying weird=/=scum isn't going to work. The basis of my vote wasn't strictly because he is a weird player.

All three of those posts that I quoted- 15, 20, and 34 had one common factor and that was him pushing mislynches, even if it was in a joking, "weird" way. You want to mess around like that once, fine... but when you consistently posting in an anti-town fashion, the I feel that warrants a vote.

Ok...so why did you pretend you didn't see my interaction with mollie when you clearly did and why did you rely on mollie's opinion rather than choosing your own? Also you didn't follow up on that question when mollie answered it so I assume it wasn't important...which brings me back to why you pretended to not see it.

whoops

looks like a bus

[pirate mollie]

Here, catching up. What should I know before starting?

Mollie is scum.

if you try to push this agenda you will have so much egg on your face it won't be funny

I

hate

going after elyse I really hate it but do you want to explain the rvs vote and the reaction to my push?

jesus christ can we lynch nikanor now

me

[pirate mollie]

why did you call me nikonar earlier
don't think i didn't notice

wtf

no words

[pirate mollie]

Here, catching up. What should I know before starting?

Mollie is scum.

if you try to push this agenda you will have so much egg on your face it won't be funny

I

hate

going after elyse I really hate it but do you want to explain the rvs vote and the reaction to my push?

I love you.

UNVOTE: Mollie

explain elyse's rvs vote, which was supposed to be rvs but she followed up with scummy reasoning can you plz answer that

My Rvs vote you want explained?

[pirate mollie]

Here, catching up. What should I know before starting?

Mollie is scum.

if you try to push this agenda you will have so much egg on your face it won't be funny

I

hate

going after elyse I really hate it but do you want to explain the rvs vote and the reaction to my push?

I love you.

UNVOTE: Mollie

My Rvs vote you want explained?

explain elyse's rvs vote, which was supposed to be rvs but she followed up with scummy reasoning can you plz answer that

fixed quote tags!

[pirate mollie]

mala ty <3

okay then explain the vote on me (yes I know you have moved from that but lets discuss)

[pirate mollie]

yaye!

can we plz lynch elyse or nikanor now

[pirate mollie]

eh

[pirate mollie]

your question was...why did I call you nickanor?

see that replies a very long paragraph and I do not want to do it specifically cos you want me to.

I think you are scum tho.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: prozack

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: prozack

Mollie dear, I understand that you are at a loss since you have realised all your thought process is wrong but please don't vent it out on me and the extra k you put at the end of my nickname...

okay my luv, now that we have gotten our first fight out of the way can we kiss and make up and lynch scumelyse already before I get distracted?

VOTE: elyse

[pirate mollie]

mollie what are your thoughts ?

[pirate mollie]

I mean I have been pretty vocal about how we should all lynch scumelyse altho I might want nikanor moar

[pirate mollie]

I just iso-ed tman and find his hard on for ut slightly disturbing.

does anybody else see it

VOTE: tman

[pirate mollie]

mollie, what in the actual fuck are you doing.

I am trying to help you bus your scumbuddies in order for you to gain towncred why aren't you helping me.

look at tman's posts. just

look at them

[pirate mollie]

i still have to doublecheck something

so did you do it

[pirate mollie]

lol <3 elyse

okay you are town

VOTE: deathnote

[pirate mollie]

I can't tell if I like nikanor or not. I found his question to me about why I misspelled his name to be weird and a bit scummy, its like he is trying to find scummy things in town rather than authentic scumhunting

[pirate mollie]

weird

but I can vote weird

VOTE: nikanor

even tho I really was looking forward to playing with him.

[pirate mollie]

nobody ever said you were weird ever

but do tell about my weird post

[pirate mollie]

nobody ever said you were weird ever

but do tell about my weird post

i already told you it was weird.
do you know what would be REALLY weird?
if i voted elyse for the post that you found <3town<3
because i wanna do that

do it

I am so up for helping you bus your scummates \o/

lemme start by placing a vote on elyse!

VOTE: elyse

[pirate mollie]

Didn't you just call her town?..(to Mollie)

Elyse change your avvie, pls.

jesus fucking christ if you turn dumb on me in this game I may never forgive you

how many games have we played where the only time scum was lynched was cos their teammates bussed them? LOTS. the soft fos and the lack of a vote along with his wking earlier and elyse's lack of response to it should tell you something!

I liked elyse's pointing out that deathy was rubbernecking with his eyes closed it made me laugh. it seemed like a logical conclusion to draw from the posts that he had made and I find it weird that nikanor does not see it in the same light it looks like that silly thing that scum do on this site which is to try to throw early suspicion on their teammates cos somehow this will legitimize their towniness later in the game? I dunno

also I totally replaced the word retarded with "silly" see I can be nice

[pirate mollie]

Jesus someone actually made me start posting normally.

However mollie, seriously, what the fuck are you doing this game? I have no idea what the hell your thought process has been this game so far.

how the hell do you not know what my thought processes are I couldn't be any more transparent if I was naked.

srsly

[pirate mollie]

nikanor where did you go

stop playing LoL and come play mafia with me

[pirate mollie]

zekrom I am the perpetual saint for lost causes if you are town and you engage with me I will do my best to not let you be lynched

[pirate mollie]

I actually really liked Elyse's reaction to mollie's vote, so I won't be voting Elyse.
sorry mols.

I find it chivalrous that you like elyse's OMGUS vote

jesus fuck can we lynch this thing already

[pirate mollie]

I'll be V/LA until Saturday.

~ mollie rant ~

it has always confounded me as to why peeps sign up for games, don't participate much and then go on v/la.

like I totally get real life happens but it seems sometimes to be used as an excuse for...whatever reason. we don't have a read on this slot he isn't giving us 1 and honestly I would rather see it go than have him lurk the game out to a scum win cos no1 remembers that he is even playing.

can some1 pretty plz vig him with sugar on top

[pirate mollie]

you could always try voting for him. voting sometimes leads to lynches, and lynches on scum make my heart rejoice.

don't you want me to be happy :(:(:(:(

I did vote him!

and yes I want you to be happy.

VOTE: tman

why is nik town you are going to have to explain this to me in very simple words

[pirate mollie]

ut I have a question for you!!!

[pirate mollie]

then what were you unsubscribing to?

[pirate mollie]

then what were you unsubscribing to?

Unsubscribing to your posts on Elyse, where you tunnel visioned her then felt ok then decided she was scum again or on the fact that your voting tman based on the fact that you don't like the fact he has been pretty low key so far and is now v/la which in terms of cases, is pretty awful when there is other things going on, also we have 11 days left of day 1, I'm not sure you would have even noticed/gotten off you elyse wagon in that time if he hadn't announced it. Furthermore, whilst your ranting, what are your opinions on OGML and Ythan? or the 10 other players with less posts than tman? You certainly have not made an effort to either look for scum outwith a select few players or even consider/question other players. It saddens me that you are becoming the most viable lynch candidate for today.

you do know that that post was not addressed to you right? otherwise it looks like you are sidelining potshots just for sake of being able to take them <--- looks kind of scummy

[pirate mollie]

Everything stims from something. I just pushed something that caught my eye and have really enjoyed were it went.

I think you are likely scum. The same goes for Mollie who I will probably end up having to switch too because so many people find you town. Fake claiming IC muse have done wonders for you.

I think there more people who find me town than they do marquis. :/

and they defo will by the end of the day.

I am giving you some space same prozack cos neither have you played forum mafia with me and aren't really used to my playstyle which is different then what you are probably used to. I tend to get super cranky and go into bitch mode when I am being voted for retarded reasons and if you insist on doing this not even your charm and good looks will be able to help you so plz don't do this okay? look at my wiki and notice how I tend to die early there is a reason for that. you can get weird on me on d3 if I am still alive especially if we have not caught scum but jesus fucking christ I am too good of player to waste on a d1 lynch for shitty reasons. it kind of feels insulting tbh.

[pirate mollie]

@pisskop why are you suggesting a mis-lynch

RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons,

until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.

This is a sentence.

explain what your point is

mollie what are your thoughts ?

@pisskop what are your thoughts ?

any thoughts ?

do you have any thoughts, or are you content to just feign activity until you eat a vig bullet or some rope?

I really like this post by ut. zekrom strikes me as a newb and lynch fodder but even newbs and lynch fodder can be scum sometimes. I am trying to reach out to him and get a read but I am still waiting for a response. that I don't have 1 yet when I am flat out stating "hey town it up for me and I will help you!" is bugging me.

leaning unsure mebbe town on ut

[pirate mollie]

Gonna start with the past-past Nikanor reads,

@Mollie-

Why do I think you are scum this game? Is that feeling strong enough to lynch you today?

Vote: Gooner

I dunno is your scumdar fucked beyond repair or what

thoughts on nika and elyse?

[pirate mollie]

molli fite me irl

I will win cos you will see how old and frail I am and be too squeamish and I will totally take advantage of that and beat you to a bloody pulp!

[pirate mollie]

then what were you unsubscribing to?

Unsubscribing to your posts on Elyse, where you tunnel visioned her then felt ok then decided she was scum again or on the fact that your voting tman based on the fact that you don't like the fact he has been pretty low key so far and is now v/la which in terms of cases, is pretty awful when there is other things going on, also we have 11 days left of day 1, I'm not sure you would have even noticed/gotten off you elyse wagon in that time if he hadn't announced it. Furthermore, whilst your ranting, what are your opinions on OGML and Ythan? or the 10 other players with less posts than tman? You certainly have not made an effort to either look for scum outwith a select few players or even consider/question other players. It saddens me that you are becoming the most viable lynch candidate for today.

you do know that that post was not addressed to you right? otherwise it looks like you are sidelining potshots just for sake of being able to take them <--- looks kind of scummy

Ya see mollie, I didn't actually answer that question, I actually really badly twisted it to say "look at all the scummy things you've done". Also you didn't answer my question, I am still waiting for your reads on the 12 players I asked for.

you asked for reads on 2 specific players who had not posted yet at the time, ogml and ythan. I am not going to answer cos the answer is really fucking obvious and I feel embarrassed to have to point it out; I don't have reads on the 2 players who have not posted. :/

see the problem is that it

looks

like you are doing stuff but really you are in the same category as tman and zekrom in that your posts don't actually do anything, you quote wall and give a 2 liner but there isn't much of a follow up and your angles are wrong and do not seem to come from a town mindset and yet...I honestly gut feel you as town so I am just wondering if you are doing your usual thing where you have a hard on for my lynch for no particularly reason (skype mafia meta) and are just going to troll me with it. it is a null tell for you like very null so you are in my unsure pile for now.

[pirate mollie]

so can we just kill off the actively bad players until we have a better playerlist :-/

what is your criteria for bad play?

I ask this cos there are some players that a lot people consider to be "bad players" and I just don't see it. notty is srsly underrated and so is tippy

I mean you consider me to be a "bad player" yeah? (altho this might have changed after meeting me IRL and reading my posts in a different "voice" than the 1 you thought i had).

what is your take on gc so far? for some weird reason they are pushing a lot of the "I should know this person" button cos they seem familiar. mebbe he just reminds me of nacho or some1 else for some strange reason but I know it isn't. I am having a hard time pinning that slot down.

[pirate mollie]

could we have a town meeting ?

this isn't the towning it up that I was hoping for!!!

ut asked you for your thoughts do you think mebbe you could oblige pretty plz?

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: Zekrom

Mollie is still scummy but zekrom is just pissing me off at this point. He's useless.

Also, mollie, I think poro's point is that you are going after tman for being inactive and going on V/LA when there are people who haven't even posted yet. Why go after him and not them?

the difference is that tman HAD posted and then went on v/la after no solid content and 2 votes you cannot compare that to 2 people who had not posted yet. its like trying to compare epithelial tissue to connective tissue it should never be done.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: Zekrom

Mollie is still scummy but zekrom is just pissing me off at this point. He's useless.

Also, mollie, I think poro's point is that you are going after tman for being inactive and going on V/LA when there are people who haven't even posted yet. Why go after him and not them?

the difference is that tman HAD posted and then went on v/la after no solid content and 2 votes you cannot compare that to 2 people who had not posted yet. its like trying to compare epithelial tissue to connective tissue it should never be done.

Yes you can.

no you can't

and you are no dummy elyse

[pirate mollie]

Typing on my ds so this will be short. I also asked about the 10 others who at the time had less posts and plus or minus a green crayons, the same or less content as tman.

However to answer your concerns I have numerous lines of investigation going right now and like I'm trying to give you, I am giving them a chance to explain themselves. Thats not saying follow up wont happen, but I'm not exactly in a rush here.

Besides just because I disagree with your one read (and no opinion on the other) doesn't mean my angles are wrong, just different.

Ok, more general question for you, what is your opinion on the other things going on in this game?

since I think i have given more of an opinion on most of the players than any other player has I find this angle wrong in that your line of question implies that I have not done this. <---- scummy. it is a subtle misrep with no clear avenues for what to you plan to do with any info you receive. you are scumreading me yeah? it is like you are not even trying to figure out my alignment and instead are just sticking to tawdry reasons as to why I am scum and tbh I am unclear as to why you are doing this if you are town. from this point it just kind of looks like you are pushing a lazy case for all I can guess for the only reason being is for the lulz.

[pirate mollie]

Honestly, I know your read on me, nik, tman and elyse, and even that is fluid(?). I'm only scumreading you because you dont seem to be interested in anyone but your own lynch candidate, in my view you are being tunnel visioned. Neither question was to determine your alignment, it was just to get some bloody information out of you because I am currently disparing at your stubborness.

I dont know where you got this opinion of yourself that you have given opinions of lots of players, I haven't seen them. I dont know, I am completely willing for you to prove me wrong but you haven't yet.

ut, trying to reach out to zekrom, I have mala as mebbe town but unsure, leaning town on ut. I have given way more reads than most of the players in this game other than nikanor if you were paying attention.

and it is

weird

how you are calling me out for not having opinions when you have given considerably a less amount of your own except to say "oh you are scummy" and saying that my push on elyse is bad and yet somehow managing not to give a townread on her.

the lack of commitment is coming from you, not me, within the scope of scumhunting. the ONLY reason I am not voting you is cos nika has you as scum and I honestly don't know your forum persona and I am trying to give you room. <---- like really that is it. your defense of elyse looks like a chainsaw

[pirate mollie]

the ONLY reason I am not voting you is cos nika has you as scum

how is this different from when I called Elyse scum?

I have a mild town gut read on prozack but it could be sentimental overlays. I am pushing him to mebbe clear up some ambiguity but so far he looks awful!

why are you not seeing this

I don't have 1 on elyse and I still say she is scum.

[pirate mollie]

why are you not seeing this

um because you said that the only reason you weren't voting him is because I think he's scum.
you even capitalized ONLY.

I did!

I am just wondering why that is a standing point for you. so you think it is somehow scummy that I want to lynch elyse who you are staying away from but you are scumreading prozack but not voting him I don't think and I am giving room to prozack cos I have you as a scumspect and suspect your vote on prozack?

[pirate mollie]

I am just wondering why that is a standing point for you. so you think it is somehow scummy that I want to lynch elyse who you are staying away from but you are scumreading prozack but not voting him I don't think and I am giving room to prozack cos I have you as a scumspect and suspect your vote on prozack?

you're insane.
i'm not even voting for prozac.
and i don't think you're scummy.

I do believe I said you weren't voting prozack?

but you are scumreading prozack but not voting him

so is your point of contention in that I am heavy scumreading elyse but giving prozack room when it comes down to reads match up?

[pirate mollie]

Mollie what happened between you calling me town and scumreading me again?

Your reason are absolute shit (I wasn't trying to figure out Nikanor after my RVS vote on page 1...?) and you are being too confident/sure of yourself when your reasoning is awful at best.

are you trying to figure out nika now? cos all I see is desperate OMGUS from you wrt my vote! I am not feeling it.

I thought I asked you about nika's wking did you answer cos I forget

[pirate mollie]

ZEKROM!!! I HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU LIKE TEN THOUSAND TIMES

AND YOU ARE NOT RESPONDING

I AM TOWN AND I AM TRYING TO GET A READ OFF OF YOU IN ORDER TO KEEP YOU FROM BEING MINDLESSLY LYNCHED

CAN YOU PLZ HELP ME WITH THIS COS YOU LOOK PRETTY LYNCHABLE AND IF YOU ARE ON MY TEAM I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN

SO CONTENT. POSTS. READS. THOUGHTS. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST TIME I REACH OUT TO YOU SO WILL YOU PLZ STOP IGNORING ME?

[pirate mollie]

Every time he fails to either answer me or mollies questions I am sure he is scum. Their is a difference between a newbie not knowing what he is doing and what zekrom is doing. A newbie not knowing what he is doing will A. ask more questions, B. Clam up and eventually replace or C. give a few non commital reads and then panic when people question them further.

What zekrom is doing is failing to engage with anyone, I mean the questions that have been asked of him are me asking for his thoughts. An oh so generic and easy question to answer in almost any way he chooses and a question by mollie asking if he had finished double checking the thing he said he was, all she wanted there was engagement. There is a complete lack of getting involved here, so much so that he is actively avoiding it. The most he has done is ask me what my point was when I quoted a post of his early on in the game, I replied and I wasn't expecting some sort of poetic response but was expecting some sort of acknowledgement.

There is also the questions he is asking, again if you are asking Player X, what are your thoughts? Then it is the start of a dialogue (or monologue!) between players. This has not happened, not even a "why didn't you answer my question?". It either suggests a total lack of interest or scum not knowing what he should be doing. Im going with the latter, as the former scenario would have either replaced out by now or would not be posting at all.

---

And whilst I am here, to answer the question I set myself the other day...

My reads and my thought process behind them...

The pereV and RC argument really doesn't interest me and it's mostly down to RC's playstyle. I'm not particularly happy with RC and the meta read I got from him, but at the same time, there are other issues here, but all this is mired in playstyle, and a vote on him would only be me partially voting someone I think is scum and partially me voting someone who could just be a VI.

Gooner is an arsenal fan so is always going to be inherently smug about everything until they lose against Liverpool and Man City overtake them. That said, despite our difference of opinion with game mechanics, I have a slight townread on him, and I can see him doing this but I would like a more firm stance on Zekrom.

Heh, so pirate mollie, I've explained to death, why I don't scumread you so much, but I am trying to differentiate your IRL play to your forum play. Because the problem is that I am seeing some similarities to your scum play here. Like your single mindedness, my aim over the past few days is to try and push you into engaging with people that hasn't anything to do with Elyse. Which is kinda what you were doing with Zekrom, almost. (but thats more his fault than yours) I mean I am not saying change your opinions, (I am, a bit) I just am not convinced you are actually properly scumhunting right now, if I was to commit to you being town then I wouldn't care where your vote is, I'd just see you with more varied conversation.

I can't legitimately vote someone who said I have the best hair... even though it was clearly a drunken lie. malakittens - I'm not happy with her defence on Zekrom, it felt way to easy just to dismiss it with "he's new". But again, more posts needed. mala how are you feeling about the things happening in this game?

ABR has pissed me off, I have seen him complete many a large game, but I've seen him replace out of far more.

EP is posting uncharacteristically little as well, also the whole vote thing is funny. Not to say he is scum, but again I need him to now make more firmer stances in his next post.

Deathnote, Elyse and GC have commited my all together unreliable town tell. UT hasn't but I have been enjoying his posts. Especially because I imagine he finishes a bottle of straight bourbon before he posts. The others I am null on or havent posted enough in the 19 pages so far. Marquis is a player that is overdue a look at, but I have been actively avoiding it, because of fear Im going to break my own nose baching my face against the keyboard...

THIS POST IS SUPER HAWT AND I WANT TO LICK PROZACK"S BRAIN

whoops and I had been doing so well lately...

[pirate mollie]

1. Formerfish - ff is hard for me to read but there was a glimpse of vulnerability that I saw that makes me lean town. like he very clearly wasn't in fake mode it read as pretty genuine so I am leaning town.
2. PeregrineV - oddly enough his 1 post where he was like "mollie are you scum" gives him town points but then I don't understand how he could possibly think this is my scum game. my scum game is so much more sophisticated. unsure mebbe town but I need to see more.
3. Gooner - he isn't registering for me at all and I know he has posted
4. DeathNote - wth. no srsly WTH. but he did shit in f2f too so unsure
5. pisskop - dunno anybody who says I am bad and then makes retarded posts just kind of triggers the ignore button for me. and he didn't do much before that either.
6. Matias - is he still playing where did he go
7. pirate mollie - all that is awsum that is town you peeps should love me
8. OhGodMyLife - he posted something and then I forgot about it. I don't even remember what is was about. the lurking seems mebbe scummy
9. Untrod Tripot - unsure mebbe town? I don't like the wanting to lynch whoever is lynchable and he is acting like this game has been going on forever when it hasn't and typing this out talks me out of my townread on him. unsure. I liked the 1 post cos I felt the same way about zekrom but body of work he is not holding up.
10. Malakittens - leaning town mebbe?
11. Elyse - SCUM! I hate it when I have to sit on a scum read and wait for every1 else to catch up. anybody who thinks this is elyse's town game needs to have their head examined she is pretty good.
12. Marquis - leaning town for clownfuckery which is kind of town for marquis
13. Nikanor - SCUM! his defense of elyse and then his disappearance along with his "prozack is scum!" is pretty funny. he is a smooth talker so it will probably take forever for you people to lynch him but I think he is scum with elyse.
14. Ythan - wow didn't he do this at the meet. ythan if you are town will you plz send a strong flare and lets go to your car and figure some shit out okay? and then lets be in thread masons. this offer also has an expiration date.
15. Porochaz - TOOOWNNNNN!!! don't touch him don't even look at him funny or I will eat you
16. sthar8 - it makes me sad that once again it seems like star drew scum.
17. evilpacman18 - is he playing?
18. RadiantCowbells - no clue. I get this feeling like I have played with them before but they did not leave that strong of an impression. oddly with their timing mebbe town.
19. zekrom25 - jesus christ what do I need to do, send a handwritten invitation? newb, lynch fodder, who the fuck knows when he isn't posting or responding. he goes into the scum pile.
20. tman2nd- I have no words. NO WORDS
21. Green Canyons - oddly, leaning town? he actually reminds of home, like home as in not tr but ratskep. ratskep was the very first site I played mafia on.

so in order of things I think prozack is a good person to rally around, elyse, nika, zekrom, deathy, tman, star feel the scummiest the rest I would like to get closer to. mala if you are town I need your help plz don't be stubborn.

eta: oh hai awsum xposting with crayon person!

[pirate mollie]

vote mollie

She is possibly scum.

vote elyse who is probably scum.

Yoo hoo! Mollie! Please respond to post 45!

Also how has no one else commented on DeathNote's terrible entrance into the game???

59 is RVS. Fine. 60 is him calling Marquis weird and subsequently voting him. He also expresses disbelief at someone calling Marquis town. Weird and scum are not synonymous or else mollie would be scum every game.

Then in 61 he asks mollie if I'm scum, saying he "got caught up with the weirdness and didn't notice my exchange with her". First, you DID notice my exchange with mollie if you are asking her about. Second, the game is three pages long. Reread it and decide if I am scum for yourself.

mollie might also be scum if she's serious about me being scum but it's too soon to tell.

@RC
Please tell me you've moved on from "why me fry me" and have another reason to explain why I'm scum. If you are still holding on to that reason I want you to explain how that's scummy rather than regurgitate a common myth that you implanted into your brain.

Also Marquis is town.

crayon thing this post looks good on its own but body of work? she isn't measuring up. her vote is on me but she isn't doing anything to firm up the read or doing a lot to push her nonexistent case.

[pirate mollie]

erm, I am not voting you atm? should I be?

[pirate mollie]

I've been watching you try to talk yourself into scumreading me and it's bad and dumb

there are like 6 people ahead of you mebbe more why are you getting your panties in a twist?

Mollie I'm asking you questions but you're ignoring me again

wat questions

[pirate mollie]

@mollie
The questions about your read change on me

I did explain that.

[pirate mollie]

~ discussion about the use of the term "tunnel vision" ~

it should not be used at this point and time and it looks scummy when people are using it.

why? cos tunnel vision involves the exclusion of outside data like I dunno flips, investigative results, etc. to use at this point and time is a mischaracterisation of the word itself and seems like a convenient thing for scum to toss around to say some1 else is scummy?

^ lazy scumhunting at best if town, pretty obv as scum I just wish would town would not do it but they do

I prefer the term trolleytracking. it is a hockey term where you are so focused on the puck that you get blindsighted by the other team and lose teeth and get bloody cos you never saw them coming. this is d1 we are fishing out reads, I think elyse is scum and I got this read early and I am not going to change it unless she does something outstandingly townie which she isn't and elyse knows how to do that.

@ elyse

I had you as scum, I liked the deathy post but then nika said he didn't and it looked like early distancing to me went back to my scum read why the fuck are you not banging on about that shit

like srsly you are doing a thing and you are not scumhunting this is not the town elyse that I have come to know and love

back to:

VOTE: elyse

[pirate mollie]

*not doing a thing

[pirate mollie]

in other newz zekrom is posting elsewhere on site

[pirate mollie]

where is your ut?

[pirate mollie]

*vote

[pirate mollie]

This game is dumb. What were my reads again?

your face is dumb. and mebbe scum

[pirate mollie]

DAMMIT MOLLIE I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A POINT.

sorry <3

[pirate mollie]

fuck it

VOTE: zekrom

[pirate mollie]

@Mollie
So you didn't answer it before?

I answered you here:

VOTE: elyse

competing wagons gogogogo

Why me?

naked third vote on a player that you are not trying to figure out for starters. we can work from there

What do you mean I am not trying to figure him out?

eta: what do you think of nikanor's wking I think it is kind of sweet

What white knighting?

1. it means you are not trying to figure him out. if you were did you think the vote would have helped you and if so what have you accomplished?

2. the wking that he did? I am wondering how you could have missed it.

I will say that your Nikanor/me scum angle makes me feel a little better about you because I see where you are coming from but it is still weak as hell and you know it.

I get my reads pretty fast!

do you know what is interesting about the post that I quoted? you are asking about wking when I know you have seen me use the term fuck, you might have even asked me about it.

As far as not scumhunting, you are the only really scummy person who has posted a lick of content, so that kind of sucks. I have a townread on Poro and Gooner. UT and Nikanor are hard to read so I will deal with them later. GC is completely neutral because his posts seem very calculated and could come from town or scum. Leaning scum on DeathNote as well but besides his ignorance of our discussion early on he hasn't done much. Zekrom is useless and I want him dead. No one else is really coming up on my radar. I don't know what you expect from me. I can't pull reads out of my ass if there's nothing to base them on.

^scumpost

I am not scum, should be obvious, especially to you, where did you lose your deathy impetus and you look like you are hanging that crayon thing out on a limb as in lemme guess you are gonna go after him next? you are sliding ut and nika in a zone I am not happy with you are not giving a read on zekrom whom you are voting for.

you srsly wonder why I think you look scummy?

also I added a comma cos I was not telling elyse to fuck off it was a fuck, you might have done this etc

[pirate mollie]

PS mollie I'm starting to agree with you on Elyse keep pushing her

ut there was a good amount of time when we received our role pm and when the thread started and it looks like elyse, nika and deathy were all tripping over themselves! their interactions look like the uninformed minority who were communicating pregame and not town interactions at all.

mebbe you can understand this since you are a trumpet player but it has to do with the rhythm of a game. I know you have seen where scum will place silly suspicion on a player early in a game in order to obtain town cred. all 3 of them look awful and really I would rather take the head before the ass those 3 being the heads and zekrom being the ass. (no offense zekrom)

[pirate mollie]

Its scum. time to bus your buddy vroom vroom

if you think elyse is deathy's buddy then why are you not voting elyse when I am trying to get a wagon on her? I feel less sure about deathy than I do about elyse nika and zekrom.

[pirate mollie]

jesus christ

VOTE: zekrom

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: deathnote

[pirate mollie]

GODDAMMIT HE IS STILL POSTING IN OTHER PLACES THAN HERE

[pirate mollie]

Mollie do you have an alt named Bazinga.

I do!

it the hydra I have with bert. I am in a bunch of hydras and while I think I have been doing better lately I still alt slip from time to time.

thoughts on the game?

[pirate mollie]

I do not like the push on formerfish at all and oh hey look what elyse did

JESUS CHRIST

ff ut is just pissy cos you didn't come visit every1 for the fabulous meet up.

ut I freaking told you that ff showed a spark of genuineness I really think he is town what happened to your deathy push?

hi ythan! I am not getting a read on yet except by blind poe can you plz help me out.

[pirate mollie]

I banked tonight... seriously.... I am going to buy you all a pistol so you can day vig whoever the fuck you want because I made so much fucking money.

DEATHY WE TOTALLY HAD THE CONVO ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE UP YOUR EVIL WAYS

[pirate mollie]

I think ff is town.

[pirate mollie]

I have literally no idea what just happened.

^newb town

[pirate mollie]

I would have loved to come to the meet up, but I won't be in NC until the end of this month. Desp is thinking about trying to get to the NY one, I might be able to swing that one.

oh I thought you were local!

that explains why you weren't there then. the ny 1 has been cancelled I think.

so I know it takes you a bit of time to warm up but where are you at with your reads right now?

[pirate mollie]

Don't sas me you jerk. I am just saying that you pushed me for the same damn reason you pushed FF and you're an idiot.

sas

[pirate mollie]

y'all leave ff alone! I have noticed it takes him a bit of time to get his feet in a game. the emotion reads genuine

ythan what are your reads? I am not sure if I can recall you giving any.

also can we plz lynch elyse or nika now or fuck even deathy altho I am more sentimental about him

[pirate mollie]

Stop bleating now please.

[pirate mollie]

Stop bleating now please.

He has a bad attitude and should not be coddled.

no he doesn't he is town flailing not scum flailing the emotion reads as genuine. I will coddle him all I want and you can't stahp me why cos you are not the boss of me man!

[pirate mollie]

2. PeregrineV- lean town
3. Gooner- lean town
4. DeathNote- null
5. pisskop- null
6. Matias- lean scum
7. pirate mollie- town
8. OhGodMyLife- null
9. Untrod Tripot- scum
10. Malakittens- null
11. Elyse- null
12. Marquis- town
13. Nikanor- lean scum
14. Ythan- lean town
15. Porochaz- null
16. sthar8- lean town based of ABR
17. evilpacman18- town
18. RadiantCowbells- null
19. zekrom25- scum
20. tman2nd- null
21. Green Canyons- null

so marquis, epm and I are your strongest town reads yeah? why is epm a strong town read for you, like I don't get that at all.

lets start here

and if you thought nika was scum why did you not show any support for when I was voting him? town has to find town in order to make scum lynches happen it doesn't happen any other way.

[pirate mollie]

Don't sas me you jerk. I am just saying that you pushed me for the same damn reason you pushed FF and you're an idiot.

sas

i like this

inorite

it is 1 of my favourite emoticons

I feel somehow we are all getting distracted from scummy elyse and nika and yes I am going to say the lurker group. I still think there is a distinct possibility that zekrom is scum but I get ut's angle with his claim and I am strong town reading ut.

deathy looks like he is posturing

eta: deathy no

[pirate mollie]

zekrom is still posting elsewhere on site can we lynch him plz

here. it is easy

VOTE: zekromVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

The more I think about Fish's claim the more I'm open to the possibility that it's from really frustrated town. Therefore, I have an alternate suggestion:

- let's lynch someone else today (my pick would be DeathNote)
- we pick a kill for zekrom
- fish, if he's telling the truth, protects zekrom

I feel like scum, if they're not dumb and fish is town, have to kill fish tonight if he's alive. this would allow zekrom's kill to go through and we'd have two kills. we could leave zekrom alone for the time being. I'm not going to talk through what all the possibilities would mean because I don't want to do scum's thinking for them, but I think this might be optimal play?

PEdit: no one said Zekrom has a 100% verifiable role. we're just trying to optimize our play here in case his claim is true.

I can agree to this! I don't want to lynch ff today.

[pirate mollie]

Yeah, I'm not buying fish's claim. Seems to me like a hasty road block to stave off his impending lynch.

I am, however perfectly happy with UT's test circle. The WIFOM is not insurmountable, and either way it limits scum options.

I'm gonna finish reading then put together a reads list and a list of who I've played with before.

lets lynch star!

or pisskop that reads was terrible but I am good with deathy too cos of my deathy/elyse/ nika too altho deathy was the weaker read from the early rvs play.

[pirate mollie]

any suggestions for a scum kill ?

zekrom I asked you a question and you are ignoring me!

this is a reach out by the way

[pirate mollie]

I like marquis for town right now. do you not?

[pirate mollie]

a more paranoid man than I would suggest that based on that post you and Nik are scum together

but I am not a paranoid man

I love you for this post.

but I can get paranoid for the both of us and I am scumreading nika.

can we just lynch nika then.

[pirate mollie]

star and I have never been on the same team

[pirate mollie]

star and I have never been on the same team

are you scum this game?

are you freaking kidding me

this is more along your likeable scum game than the 1 time I saw you as town

[pirate mollie]

my wordputer is broken.

an unrevealed doctor is useful. a revealed doctor is not.
let's pretend for a second that the scum don't have a roleblocker/strongarm/whathaveyou. do you plan on letting him live until night three or four or

whenever the scum decide it's not worth letting him live?

why wouldn't we do this? it boggles the mind. let scum take care of him and wrt bold kind of contradicts what you said about scum never nking him yeah?

jesus christ

VOTE: nikanor

[pirate mollie]

Cause helping scum kill town when we don't need to doesn't exactly help our wincon.

i don't wanna live in a world where we let this guy live.
mollie pls take me to live in outer space with you.

I will! it is much nicer than here. roomier.

so in other newz are we going to lynch star? yaye!

VOTE: star

[pirate mollie]

After the reread, I want a Zekrom lynch more. Its bad I know, but I don't trust him not to really damage the town just because he fancied being a dick this game.

Fishy too, not for those reasons but that slip...

People voting sthar need to stop as well or at least get a better case.

UT needs a look at when there is more info on the table, you smell off, my friend.

Right look, if you guys aren't going to choose Zekrom, then I want RC. <- a lynch close enough to Zekroms without the vig claiming issues. Or OMGL. Maquis or EPM as well, would not bother me here.

1. I am with you on zekrom. he worries me cos he is ignoring all of my reach outs but isn't wanting to do anything but bait ythan and tbh it makes them both look icky.
2. how often are slips like that slips tho? I think ff looks clunky and awkward but I think he always looks like this, he is still trying to find his feet in games. the only thing that makes me go hhhmmm was the timing and the manner of his claim.
3. I really wish I could make a good case for star. but I have no fucking idea what his town game looks like except for 1 game and he was excited to be town and it showed! this looks like his scum game to me.
4. I can't read ut I don't think so I am leaving that to you all.

I still like my pet theory from earlier and when I look at who is dispersing the herd and keeping town cohesion from forming look there they are.

[pirate mollie]

Pirate, really? I'm a really bad day 1 lynch.

If I'm not slammed at work I'll get content up tonight, but i think I really want to lynch marquis.

since when have you started calling me pirate

[pirate mollie]

eta: you know this is how you escaped the noose in 3 games you kept promising oh I will get to this later and we would wait and then you would go to win cos people get tired of waiting and even if you do come back and produce something meaningful you have set the stage to lurk out the game 3 town losses fuck no I am simply not doing it again especially since you are doing the same exact thing.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie you just said you can't read UT and are leaving that to everyone else. When I said I am putting Nikanor and UT off for later because I can't read them you said you were uncomfortable with that.

i feel differently about ut then then I do now. wats so hard to understand about that? I felt I had stronger grasp on ut but now I am unsure. that was kind of a shout out to the people who can actually read him to step it up and that I would work with them? cos I didn't say that "I will put him off till later" I said I can't read him. <---- stop trying to conflate the 2!!! cos they are not the same thing not even close.

and why the fuck are you trying to spin this into whatever the fuck you are trying to spin this into? like this is 1 of the dumb angles that I try to take as scum and I get town read for it! lol

[pirate mollie]

They are the same thing and I'm not spinning anything into anything.

no they aren't and you sayig so doesn't make it true

but lets play the tape all the way through shall we!

elyse: I want to leave nika and ut alone. <--- preempts future actions as in you won't be voting them or putting pressure on them or even looking at them until some undetermined time in the future

mollie: I can't read ut <--- means exactly what is says it does as in their is no caveat for current or future avoidance, which is what you did.

the 2 are nothing alike. LIKE NADA CHICA

[pirate mollie]

No

I said I can't read nika and ut so I am putting them off until later. I later said that IF something alignment indicative sticks out, I will point it you. You saying that I won't vote, pressure, or even look at them is a complete misrep. I am just not worrying about them at the moment.

You said you can't read UT and are relying on other people to read him. So you are allowing other people to post their thoughts if something sticks out, but you aren't going to worry about them yourself.

It's the same thing. You saying it's not doesn't make it true.

the difference is, is that I am not saying that I am leaving ut alone. you are.

that is the difference. that is why the 2 are not the same. cos 1 leaves an open avenue of action and the other doesn't. 1 does, 1 doesn't. does and doesn't does not mean the same the thing. the two are different. so they are not the same. get it?

UT IS MINE GODDAMMIT!!!!! YOU CAN"T HAVE HIM!!!

[pirate mollie]

If anyone is leaving ut alone it's you. I'm saying I'll get to him and you're saying you flat out can't read him.

The bottom line is that neither of us are worrying about them AT THE MOMENT. For different reasons, yes, but acting like what you are saying is completely different from what I said is wrong.

who says I am not worried.

I already stated that I am not going to leave him alone so why are now trying to say that I am? <---- WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK LIKE SRSLY STAHP TRYING TO DESPERATELY TWIST THE FACTS TO FIT YOUR ERRONEOUS INTERPRETATION PLZ STAHP TIA

what I am saying is

I can't fucking read him.

<--- you are the 1 who keeps adding a nuance of interpretation that is simply not there. plz stahp.

well at least I am town reading elyse now I don't think scum would push such a bad point this looks more like town trying to save face.

elyse lets not continue this pissing contest cos it serves no purpose really and it is only a game of escalation in which no 1 can win.

[pirate mollie]

OK well I just got a townread, so I've got that going for me I guess.

What's the case on UT?

I have no words

[pirate mollie]

holy fuck this conversation is bad

look...

we have Marquis, EPM, OGML, and RC doing some flavor of lurking or refusing to play the game. can we please lynch one of them and have Zekrom shoot another? I'll ACCEPT a deathnote lynch too.

I am not losing another fucking game to star doing what he is doing cos that is what he does as scum.

he will replace into a game (or mebbe start off in 1 so in that instance he will sign up for a game) and then post late and say, "sorry I worked a lot but I will get back later" and then not get back meanwhile town will tear itself apart and then he will pop and post something wonderfully hedgey but town will say oh he is town and then he will get left alone and then he will prod dodge meanwhile 2 lynches on town have occurred and then he will be busy at work and so on and so on until he wins the game. the 1 game I saw where he was town HE DID NOT DO THIS IN THE GAME WAS LIKE 50 TIMES LONGER THAN THIS 1 I DON"T CARE IF IT WAS IN LYLO HE GOT INVOLVED.

I have watched this

3 times

and holy shit I did not realise I was so butthurt about it until now.

wow. is their a clinic for this sort of thing

I adore star.

[pirate mollie]

MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE is for a Marquis lynch and an RC vig shot, but I'm open to compromise

do you think both of those are scum? cos I don't so no

[pirate mollie]

WHAT DID I TELL YOU!!!! I TOLD YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO AND THEN HE WENT AND DID IT!!! OMG

AND HE IS GETTING TOWNREAD FOR IT!!!

DJSHFJHDIwhoeh3eihwqOIDSQN2XEGRC 2W3G R UGDBFILUWKYEH;ROG1

[pirate mollie]

ff, have you played with star in your messiah hydra? cos I am wondering how authentic his whole, "desp asked me to replace in" cos star has been in none of mine and desp's games and I can think of 5 people easy that desp would ask before star (no offense star) if he was going to ask anybody which I kind of lean he wouldn't do so he would just go with the replacement queue

[pirate mollie]

ff, have you played with star in your messiah hydra? cos I am wondering how authentic his whole, "desp asked me to replace in" cos star has been in none of mine and desp's games and I can think of 5 people easy that desp would ask before star (no offense star) if he was going to ask anybody which I kind of lean he wouldn't do so he would just go with the replacement queue

Never played with him, and have no clue who he is.

:/

this response is underwhelming.

cos I don't believe desp asked star to replace into this game.

[pirate mollie]

holy buddying batman, sthar's reads list looks like it was pulled from my stated reads in this game!

so you think ff is a town VI but don't believe his claim too????

[pirate mollie]

all Marquis has done all. game. is post smiley faces and PURPOSEFULLY not engage with reads and the game as a whole. he's flaunting his lack of engagement. a. how do you have a read on that? b. why are you willing to let that live?

extra stripes are always good

i made scumreads early on but then i realized if people were going to be mad at me for having them then it might just be better to sheep my townreads instead

pedit or if i went back to scumreads we could actually lynch zekrom who is actively attempting to troll- no, he's not

that

new, he's purposely being scummy. or lynch ut because posting a lot =/= town and i just don't like how he reversed his townread on me :c not willing to lynch fish today esp. if ut wants to lynch him

pedit2 sorry my laptop ran out of power so effectively i'm like 10 posts late or something

so I think I am ready to let go of my pet theory now! I have a new 1.

elyse is now a townread and I am thinking nika is too which is good cos it means I can have fun with him now!

[pirate mollie]

I am starting to think so mebbe. and you too, ut.

you know I am usually the 1 who defends lyncbait but I am losing the desire to do so anymore. I am looking at the playerlist and I am confused cos it seems so much smaller with who is actually engaged. there has got to be at least SOME scum who are active they cannot all be lurkers for ffs.

I still think star is scum tho

[pirate mollie]

^ bored cos he is snowed in

[pirate mollie]

IMPORTANT!

@Zekrom: IF WE GIVE YOU A LIST OF POSSIBLE TARGETS WILL YOU KILL ONE OF THOSE TARGETS?

yes if they are scum i will

Will 100% do so? Even if you don't think any of them are scum?

yes however i'll iso each one to double check each one, so i don't shoot a town by mistake

So what idiot's fault is it that we're not lynching this.

that would ut, who wants to keep zekrom around in order to shoot the claimed doc.

just saying

[pirate mollie]

How did I end up in this playerlist.

post reckoning afterglows...

@ star

this part confuses me of your post:

(also I totally sent a bitch-pm to desp when he sent me a town role.

okay so you wanted a scum role yeah?

You can check with him in post. I was kinda hoping to be scum with you.

so did you think i was scum when you subbed in or were you just hoping that I was when you saw the playerlist?

Then I realized that ABR wouldn't have replaced out if he were scum.)

but wouldn't you have realised that you weren't scum when you received your role pm? so why would realising that apb would not replace out as scum make you realise that I was not scum?

this does not make sense to me could you plz explain this?

[pirate mollie]

THAT'S SOME MISREP BULLSHIT RIGHT THERE

YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT MOLLIE

DON'T FUCKING LIE ABOUT ME TO MY FACE

wasn't that the plan or did I misunderstand

[pirate mollie]

Vote Zekrom

yeah this has been your only vote. I didn't realise that before

and it is pretty sticky considering everything else that has been going on

in fact it looks downright terrible

[pirate mollie]

zekrom, please confirm that you'll be shooting gooner tonight.

oh good grief just claim already

you have already put a target on your back if you are right

and why would you not to lynch gooner right now

[pirate mollie]

*want

[pirate mollie]

what an interesting pagetop

[pirate mollie]

why does green crayons seem so familiar

[pirate mollie]

I see snarky arse. a liberation idgara mindset. Can be a very emphatic style of

posting

living and boredom does usually lead to mischief but its also good for a show.

I mean to say that used as an expectation its decent at decieving, but inherently his ability to prod you while laughing isnt scummy. Its wifom. he never claimed to be mad. and if he was irritated hed get proportionatly nastier. or stop posting.

Hell slip up eventually if hes scum. be too busy having funtime. His willingness to push several buttons leans him to the town, imo.

you seem familiar with ut!

[pirate mollie]

It's the particular way he's raging ie he's not actually mad he's just putting on a show of it.

Like in the previous sentence, if he was legit pissed he wouldn't have taken the time to note that I was puttting together reads.

He's trying to appease rather than anything else.

ftr I don't think you are crazy

but talk to me about star

[pirate mollie]

My opinion on Sthar is my own for the moment.

Ask me about literally anyone else.

how about green crayons

[pirate mollie]

dear star,

I know you have always taken care to make sure that your ruthless lying, buddying and subsequent abandonment to watch me get mislynched was as painless as possible and because of that I will be gentle with you. I am sorry you once again got a scumrole it makes me sad.

love,

mollie

[pirate mollie]

hi prozack!

[pirate mollie]

nika there is like pondscum oozing out of every pore of your body

[pirate mollie]

but srsly sthar, literally everything you called marquis scum for is a towntell. his ambivalence, his OBJECTION to UT's obviously flawed plan, everything.
if you're going to be an asshole in a game of mafia, you should at least have the skill to back it up.

is this cos star called you a VI cos you are not voting the person you claim to have evidence of scum on? you never answered my question and lets be honest, that is skeevy as fuck

also when I was planning our space travels I thought this might be a good place:



how about there?

[pirate mollie]

we can vote mala

[pirate mollie]

I didn't even remember you were playing.

I would feel wonderful lynching you I think.

VOTE: mala

[pirate mollie]

she has been absent ythan think about it

[pirate mollie]

So what idiot's fault is it that we're not lynching this.

that would ut, who wants to keep zekrom around in order to shoot the claimed doc.

If UT is scum - why does he need Zek to shoot the claimed doc. Can't he - you know - do this himself?

I dunno einstein mebbe so he can nk some1 else? gosh this is so hard could you mebbe explain it to me O Great One

anyways if you read the game I am like, you know, currently town reading ut mebbe

[pirate mollie]

@ mod - how many does it take to lynch again?

[pirate mollie]

ty

[pirate mollie]

it pains me to do this...

VOTE: star

[pirate mollie]

star those are pretty terrible crumbs

[pirate mollie]

@mollie why are they terrible? The point of crumbs is for them not to be obvious, but not to be random. Are you suggesting that I casually use phrases that start with r then b as often as that, or that you saw them already?

I think some1 could make a sentence and later claim that was a crumb omg like people have done this a hundred of times. all you have to do is highlight letters in whatever you said

your claim looks fabricated, altho you might actually be a scum roleblocker

[pirate mollie]

I still think you are scum but even if you are a town roleblocker, town roleblockers fuck up town more than they do scum most of the time.

I am bookmarking this cos that is single stupidest most retarded thing I have ever seen posted in a mafia game ever on 8 different sites. like holy shit

@ star

according to you and your spat with etl in the faith game you didn't breadcrumb!

but anyways those don't look like breadcrumbs and anyways you have got to be kidding me that you srsly expected some1 to pick up a breadcrumb from de barge.

you are lying

VOTE: star

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

No mollie I'm the lynch. This is how you catch bad scum, off a wagon. You got this.

lol

you wouldn't be trying to throw off fake associative tells would you?

VOTE: star

[pirate mollie]

Have you ever read one of your own posts before?

Anyway, town roleblockers often block town actions and rarely block scum actions. What is so hard to understand about that?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=25693

[pirate mollie]

who are you talking to

[pirate mollie]

it is a dumb argument. town role blockers are awsum

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: zekrom

[pirate mollie]

Nikanor and Matias had been on the FF wagon near all game. Is that towny? Ythan spent a lot of time there too.

VOTE: pisskop

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: Mollie

Serious vote.

You remind me of Shos when he discredited every single one of my crumbs in OGM. Shos was scum;therefore you are scum by default.

Also;

I think I'm down for a Zek lynch, but not voting because not many people have posted and I don't want a quick lynch to end this day off, tbh.

do you what is absolutely shitty about what you are doing? is that I can't say anything back w/o you fucking melting down and fucking up all of my other games for me. cos it is what you do. <---- and oh I am being totally srs here cos it is unfair and you know it.

fine

VOTE: pirate mollie

[pirate mollie]

Hey Mollie this is a reach out come play with me; it's not very often you get to play with confotown cabd.

DID YOU SRSLY JUST USE THE SHOUTY FONT ON ME

[pirate mollie]

prozack is town, nik and elyse are scum. not sure why rc is all hot and bothered about ut. I think marquis is town. perv just looks awful

also there are going to be some things that can't be explained cos a bunch of us met IRL

also I trust you about as far as I can throw you

eta: lemme get all of my notes for a more completed list

[pirate mollie]

also I trust you about as far as I can throw you

Better start lifting weights, because this is as close to confirmed as I'm ever gonna be because the RNG never rolls me inno child.

you honestly look much better than almost every1 else in this game but tbf that isn't hard to do

[pirate mollie]

also I trust you about as far as I can throw you

So he's fake-counter-claiming, do you think?

he would be the 1 player who could get away with it

[pirate mollie]

Okay so UT lean town based upon the votecounts, will dive into that one more but RC needs to explain why he thinks UT-scum.

agree about ut plz look at mine and elyse's exchanges am I being paranoid

also what do you think of nika

[pirate mollie]

who the fuck are you talking to

[pirate mollie]

Okay so UT lean town based upon the votecounts, will dive into that one more but RC needs to explain why he thinks UT-scum.

agree about ut plz look at mine and elyse's exchanges am I being paranoid

also what do you think of nika

I'm going to bed in a few minutes but i'll run those ISOs first thing tomorrow.

k. I will be here!

[pirate mollie]

also ythan can you plz stop treating this like a game mafia is srs b1zness

[pirate mollie]

Mollie's just reading along with the counterclaim and is still

self voting

iirc. I said that's weird and she got defensive.

Was that hard?

that isn't what happened you lying prick I was kidding with you cos I think the question was incredibly dumb

[pirate mollie]

Oi oi back the fuck up.

Zekrom is CONFIRMED FUCKING SCUM right here boys and girls.

VOTE: zekrom

I'm the actual fucking oneshot vig. I tried to shoot him last night, fucker's probably mafia bulletproof.

Votes not for zekrom or me are scumclaims past this line:


------------------------------------------

Oh good, I was starting to think I'd actually have to read this

VOTE: zekrom

Marquis is totes town.

Mollie might be scum.

so you didn't read the game but somehow have decided I was scum OKAY

[pirate mollie]

i hate this.. maybe i'm just paranoid but as much as i would have liked to just hammer zekrom day 1 i can't bring myself to do it now or even vote for him because cabd's play fits in with scum gambiting to get the mislynch off quickly then excusing it tomorrow as a town gambit. again idek if it's just paranoia but someone else look at gooner pre- and post-zekrom claim and tell me how it makes sense

pedit iso gooner... why did he want to lynch fish over zekrom, when it would have made more sense to directly cc zekrom and get the protective role on him night 1?????

if cabd is scum then I am a goddess at reading him and all should worship me

also n1 lynch zekrom before cabd makes his big long post

[pirate mollie]

is reading just not in your fucking skillset? I specifically said I still wanted the zekrom lynch TODAY I just want to give Cabd time to post reads because it'll be useful regardless of his alignment

so take your misrep and shove it up your anime avatar having ass

christ almighty what is it with you motherfuckers with anime avatars

inorite

ut I really really feel like you are town plz remind me of this if I decide to get weird on you

do NOT put zekrom to L1 plz I don't trust him not to self-hammer

[pirate mollie]

I think it is really funny how we all know that cabd is scum with his claim and gooner not uttering a peep yet every1 is still lynching zekrom

[pirate mollie]

I think it is really funny how we all know that cabd is scum with his claim and gooner not uttering a peep yet every1 is still lynching zekrom

Yet you are still self-voting~

Zek claims to say he shot Cabd and yet Cabd is still alive. How do you explain that?

are you fucking kidding me with that question

cabd claims to have shot zekrom and yet zekrom is still alive. how do you explain that?

jesus christ I am self-voting cos it is genuinely excruciating trying to tell the difference between between complete idiocy and scummy like the question above me is a prime example

[pirate mollie]

You know there are ways. And if scum have a blocking type (which is possible. If RB is town).

do you know why I voted you? cos you are probably 1 of the towniest looking players in the game other than ut and I am trying to figure out if I should be using reverse psychology or what

well prozack is town so there is that. and marquis. lemme make a list

[pirate mollie]

I think it is really funny how we all know that cabd is scum with his claim and gooner not uttering a peep yet every1 is still lynching zekrom

Do you really think this matters at this point? We have a confirmed scum between the two of them because they BOTH claimed to have shot each other. This means it doesn't matter who we lynch but my preference goes to Zek personally because I would rather have a town Cabd.

The only issue I am having is that Cabd seems smart enough to be scum and counter claim his scummy scum buddy but that is a problem I can think about tomorrow.

that crossed my mind too

[pirate mollie]

town

ut
marquis
prozack
pisskop
mebbe deathnote

scum

every single other player in the game. these are my top picks

cabd
perv
mala
nika <--- I get to meet him in a few weeks woot woot!
elyse
sera

having a hard time sorting

tman
that crayon creature
pacman
radiant person <--- still no explanation as to ut scumread so unless radiant is an alt with intimate knowledge of ut's meta I am not buying it at least for now but the tunnel is weird as fuck
ythan <--- like srsly ythan if you are town what are you doing

[pirate mollie]

But mollie you haven't addressed the actual part of my post that was directed at you...

Do you think it matters which of Zek/Cabd is lynched today?

well I was gonna say cabd but nika brings up a good point:

cabd claims to have shot zekrom and yet zekrom is still alive. how do you explain that?

I'm thinking that FormerFishy protected Zek last night, and that that is why Zek did not die.
I also think that Gooner's play is pretty consistent with how I'd act around someone I plan on vigging that night.

I don't know ff well enough to know if he would have protected zekrom or not. it seems to me that zekrom's only value was the 1 shot which he would have used in the night round so I can't quite see why ff would protect him after zekrom used it since I think he thought zekrom was a waste of space.

[pirate mollie]

I think I'd rather leave my nulls null than put up with more of this bullshit from mollie saying I'm scum over the guy who legitimately fucking CLAIMED SCUM. You should fucking know better.

At least you've now ensured I probably won't get shot tonight, so thanks for that, I guess?

==[]
VOTE: zekrom

lol

[pirate mollie]

@ ythan

the 1 that we are in

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: sera

[pirate mollie]

guys, this isn't assassins in the palace. you CAN give reasoning for your votes.

I will answer this real quick.

it has to do with perception and masking/mimicking that allows them to recreate and blend in.

sera has seen my scum game so I would expect him to be all like "ARGGGGGHHHHHH MOLLIE IS SCUM FUCKING LYNCH HER!!1!" but his push was weak especially since there was no appetite for it and this:

Watch him flip town...

without providing an alternative feels hollow. plus cabd had him as scum and cabd is a player that I respect so part of it also is sheeping his dead read.

it might not be the best but it is what I am going with for now altho I am gonna look at the vote jumps after zekrom scumclaimed (now that I am free of cabd paranoia) cos that would be a good time to bus.

[pirate mollie]

Nope. You know my town-game, so you know I'm not going to immediately yell about having you lynched, particularly given that my read was based on just skimming the first and last few pages. I don't recall Cabd saying anything about me, and I never said I wanted an alternative to lynching Zek, just that I wouldn't have been entirely surprised had he flipped scum, because there were some inconsistencies in Cabd's claim (and guess what? Cabd wasn't being entirely truthful...)

mollie is definitely being odd, I don't think she's scum though.

Marquis is totally town.

pacman-scum is quite possible. His reaction to zek's scumclaim was a bit awkward. Yates and Elyse are other good candidates for scum.

Yatesy is doing that thing he does as scum where he's focusing on calling things bad/weird/wrong rather than making alignment judgements. Most of his comments have no value in finding out the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Ythan and DN are town from interactions with zek. mollie perhaps too.

this post is so full of hedge we need a freaking gardener to trim the overgrown bushes.

I find it weird that you say yatesy is doing anything to sort out anybody's alignment I mean pot meet keetle

all you are doing is offering hedgey reads and no actual scumhunting

[pirate mollie]

*not doing

[pirate mollie]

I can go with mebbe malascum!

even tho it breaks my heart

[pirate mollie]

@Elyse

- Where u go?

Still here. I agree with mollie that serra's post was hedgy and he looks scummy.

Don't have much else to add. I didn't like evilpacman complaining about only being voted for for one post but Nikanor did the same thing kinda. The main thing that bothered me about his explanation of using the word honestly was that an explanation was unnecessary. I use honestly in my daily life all the time and it's completely unnecessary. Honestly, apparently, and literally are three words I need to stop overusing, but the use of the word "honestly" has changed and it doesn't necessarily mean someone was lying before.

I am back on elyse is scum like when does she agree with me ever

VOTE: elyse

[pirate mollie]

aw fuck it

VOTE: perv

[pirate mollie]

what is that crayon creature banging on about

also the city people cut my cable line so my activity will be spotty until it gets fixed

[pirate mollie]

I am having some connectivity issues hopefully will be resolved in the next couple of days

UNVOTE:

[pirate mollie]

If Mollie discredited the lynch then why aren't you going after her for it? You're trying to make her more scummy instead of explaining yourself and it looks really bad.

^ this

I thought cabd was gambiting and he dawdled in giving a reads list. it is pretty evident in posts.

VOTE: malacat

[pirate mollie]

still having connectivity problems so access is sporadic

[pirate mollie]

chainsaw moar, yates

my case on mala is the fade, subsequent lack of commitment except to omgus me with a vote and the soft defense of zekrom. plus cabd had her as scum too!!!