NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Yates]

I'm still not convinced on you being town, though.

Is it anything outside of paranoia? I feel like I'd be obv Town reading me so I guess I'm not sure what your concern is.

Here's a serious question that is not an accusation at all; why are you still alive? You have hinted at being a PR and have been fairly "obv Town" consensus pretty much since I replaced in. So what gives?

Or are you saying there is a second strongman?

This is what I'm thinking. Again, I don't want to expand too much on this right now in case you guys mass claim. I don't want to give anyone any ideas. That said; certain flips suggest something about our current game state. I'll leave it at that.

...my natural thought process brought me to thinking of a Yates/Elyse combo...

especially since Tman never claimed after Elyse claimed

giving it that air of wifom that maybe he would have countered.

Put yourself in Tman's shoes. What would you do if Elyse was lying? What would you do if Elyse is telling the truth? I don't think the fact he *didn't* post after her claim necessarily means he *couldn't have* posted if he saw something he needed to post about. Frankly, I get why he would be trying to stay under the radar. Do I have that little tingle that says Elyse *could be* faking and *maybe* tman just didn't have time to counter? Yeah. Sure. I guess it's a non-zero chance. I could show you the posts that lead me to believe Elyse-Poro masons [because who assumes THREE masons??] but I think GC has already shown them. So I don't know what more I could do here. Plus, there was the no kill the other night while I was protecting Elyse. Could scum have just no killed HOPING I was protecting Elyse? I guess. I just don't think it's likely. If Elyse is scum, she deserves the win b/c I got played.

[Green Crayons]

Ehh... if Mafia have an added kill ability, I would be willing to wager only 1 scum left then. 4 scum with decent powers against a large town with meh powers. (Although 3 masons is pretty good)

Yeah. This is

exactly

what I'm thinking. This is also why I'm not sold on the no lynch strategy.

I feel like we waste any advantage we have by no lynching.

Let's say we no lynch today and tomorrow I'm dead. What did we learn? Or what if Elyse is dead? Same question? The lynch pool will *still* be Ythan/GC, imho. I just feel like this is our poop or get off the pot moment.

Can you lay out your thinking on the bolded more? I want to make sure I understand your apprehension (because currently I don't).

w/r/t learning from what people die, I have already gone through the process of deciding what I would think should any given player dies, but I figure it's actually not beneficial for the town, and actually beneficial for scum, for us to divulge that.

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@DeathNote:

That's fair. But this is me giving an electronic shrug, because I don't have anything else to say at this point.

[Yates]

I want to make sure I understand your apprehension (because currently I don't).

It mostly has to do with my conviction there's only 1 scum left. I get why people think there are two. I do. But I feel like this morning's info has really solidified my opinion.

[Yates]

Guys, I'm likely going to replace out due to a death in the family.

Since it's so close to end game, I'll post if I can until replaced.

Sorry. Good luck.

[DeathNote]

Sorry to hear that Yates.

Best of luck during the tough times.

[Marquis]

The same from me.

[Ythan]

blah blah lynch or don't

if only we could vote for our preferred outcome

[Desperado]

Antihero replaces Yates effective immediately. My deepest condolences, Yates.

[Desperado]

Disclaimer: The jokes in this video have absolutely nothing to do with this game of mafia and are meant solely to amuse.

Vote Count 9.0

No Lynch - DeathNote, Marquis,
Not Voting (4) - Antihero, Elyse, Ythan, Green Canyons

The deadline for Day 9 is Friday, May 9th, at 8:00 PM EST. With 6 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2014-05-09 20:00:00).

[Antihero]

114 pages... what are the juicy parts?

[Elyse]

Claim

[Antihero]

we're mass claiming?

[Antihero]

i'm a nurse

what are the other claims?

[Antihero]

alright, i read up the last few pages / first few pages and i think i'm up with the current situation. i have to agree with yates; we really ought to lynch. for one, there could be only 1 more scum left (all scum PRs so far) and for another, the only thing that's going to happen is elyse or i's going to die and then it'll just be the exact same situation tomorrow minus one more set of eyes.

i'll do some ISO's and ctrl+f's of scum/alive players.

elyse, what are you thinking? any parts of interest in particular i should see?

[Elyse]

I want to no lynch. I still don't trust your slot 100% and I can't figure out why tman was killed. If we are both alive tomorrow, then one of the other people dies and the scumpool is reduced. If you die, I am conftown and my paranoia is put to rest.

Either way, I don't want to lynch and lose today when we could have better odds tomorrow.

[Antihero]

mulled it over and i actually agree with the no lynch. odd numbers are better for town and it's actually better that my slot's not here because my reads probably aren't going to be as good as people who've been here the whole time anyway.

does anyone actually think highly enough of me as a player to value the half-baked reads i would get or should i just vote no lynch and get it over with?

[Ythan]

Hi Antihero.

[DeathNote]

Welcome antihero!

There is too much wifom involved in lynching today. I agree, there could possibly be one scum left but I don't want to bank the game on that "possibility." The fact that you suggest it when Yates did too is very interesting to me.

I want to no lynch. I still don't trust your slot 100% and I can't figure out why tman was killed. If we are both alive tomorrow, then one of the other people dies and the scumpool is reduced. If you die, I am conftown and my paranoia is put to rest.

I don't like that you said this... It sets up tomorrow too much. Regardless, we need to no lynch and the day has dragged so please go ahead and vote if you haven't. Get this over with.

[Green Crayons]

I still don't trust your slot 100% and I can't figure out why tman was killed.

You probably answered your own question. I don't foresee a no lynch being particularly helpful, unless if scum decide to off one of the more suspicious players.

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mulled it over and i actually agree with the no lynch. odd numbers are better for town and it's actually better that my slot's not here because my reads probably aren't going to be as good as people who've been here the whole time anyway.

So why did you originally want to no lynch?

[Green Crayons]

Welcome antihero!

There is too much wifom involved in lynching today.

I agree, there could possibly be one scum left but I don't want to bank the game on that "possibility." The fact that you suggest it when Yates did too is very interesting to me.

The WIFOM you're referring to relates only to the game setup (1 v. 2 scum left), or something else?

[DeathNote]

If 2 scum left and we lynch wrong, gg. The wifom of if we are actually in mylo or not.

[Marquis]

Anti, are you scum or VT?

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:

I want to talk to Antihero a bit more today.

[Green Crayons]

If 2 scum left and we lynch wrong, gg. The wifom of if we are actually in mylo or not.

If 2 scum are left and we lynch wrong tomorrow, gg.

Like, I understand the implicit hope of what another night will bring us, but I don't think it's actually going to be as useful as you do.

[Antihero]

So why did you originally want to no lynch?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5857348

Anti, are you scum or VT?

neither

how about you, scumbird? any insight for me?