Micro 333 -- Medical Mafia ~~Game Over~~

[ZZZX]

/CONFIRMED
lets get this started!

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this is a role madness where you dont know what you even are

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Vote : Not Mafia

Wifom at its finest in your name

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Speak up people...

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Well I am sure it is a hydra

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Easiest catch up ever. Not a ton of information yet but I like the tone of RachMarie's post. Seems effortless and conversational without looking preplanned or forced. By proxy, I don't like Not_Mafia's vote nor do I understand the "Married to the Mob" poster. I do like Michelle Pfeiffer though.

Vote: Not_Mafia

I would have voted for someone not currently voting to encourage discussion rather than someone that looks like they are ready to engage in the game. So that vote bothers me.

Rvs just stopped

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Yeah okay how did you just draw these conclusions from RVS?

Well you could notice them but I was surprised at that push

trying to force reads too early, idk what to call that perosnally

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Ninja why so concerned over what was clearly an RVS vote?

Seems he might be a newb town/mafia

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Shame on you guys, 44 posts and no references to House?

I am trying my best to keep this game alive

[ZZZX]

saturnine
and

Cooldog

stop lurking

-ZZZX part of ZZZX (is there another part? naaah but its cool to type that like )

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Such spam, keep it up and I might have to move my vote. :3

Hurr DUrr I just caught scum here

IT WAS

Spoiler:

Mafia goons

who are scum ALL ALONG! I AM SURE 100%

GO LYNCH

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I love incomplete playerlists. So for people who have played this before, how much does this end up being about night action divining?

Idk but not much. I read a few gamers

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games like this *

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This is my first real role-confusion type game.

I used to do dethy

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Transparency is good but it just came off as forced to me, I understand you that you couldn't have got the joke but I don't really see how that changes this. The 'pressure vote' explanation is... meh, RVS is pretty much de facto pressure voting, I find that people who try to force the game out of RVS early rather than just letting it develop organically are scum towncredding.

Well not when the rvs is having noone posting at all

Before I posted my post game was stalled for an amazingly long time

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The game hasn't really started yet though, we have a 3 week deadline, we don't need to bludgeon our way out of RVS so soon, it just gives scum an opportunity to skate past it and easily latch on to whatever wagon we end up with

I am trying to get info, A long deadline doesnt mean we shouldnt try to apply pressure

what we are doing right now was wasting time. We have 0 info and I hardly have reliable reads yet.

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Are you really voting me for not doing schoolwork?

you missed his point

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What the crap I just go to school and you guys nearly lynch someone lol

well I have to do this

Vote Ninja

because its not that he is confirmed scum. but he is playing reaaly derpy

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VOTE: Not mafia

I am not sure how to feel about this, I am sure you are experianced enough to know that what you are doing is bad.

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So what did you think of Chuck's post?

*shrug* I don't see anything that is particularly worrying.

I do understand that Ninja is fairly new, but someone putting someone at L-1 with a naked vote and no reasoning this soon on D 1 makes me very nervous

Just because someone is new does not mean they are town.

VOTE: Ninja


Why the naked vote?

Why? If someone hammers we have a dramatically reduced lynch pool to deal with. We know scum will be on the wagon.

VOTE: Not mafia

I am not sure how to feel about this, I am sure you are experianced enough to know that what you are doing is bad.

yeah, because NS didn't count my goddamn vote. Read the fucking game before making posts. It helps... occasionally.

Well its only natural to miss your vote if the mod didnt count it. MISTAKES HAPPEN so chill.

I will sleep now. I will talk more in weekends prob

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Messed up my voting

VOTE: Ninja

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Well this game dies really quickly. and this game is going weirdly

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Mass prods lol

I am re-reading but I got nothing to work on. I have a few candidates thou

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....I can only hope that ZZZX isn't scum, because town is seriously boned if he is.

lol

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This is interesting. I will post reads when I am home.

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@MOD URGENT V/LA for 2 days

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Ok I am semi-back from V/LA. I will read and do my reads after I am home and rested. Wont take long.. Maybe

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I don't know how to read marq atm but so far it sfine. I need more reading but I must say something. I am not expecting the scum to be inactive.

Why?

Because if one of the scum is active atm he basically won Lylo. But it seems they might not have noticed that yet. SO I must re-read all current players to make sure more info is there

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brain is melting atm

what an entrance. Are you trying to change your meta, Marquis? I don't think I have ever seen you so verbose in a game before

What is Marquis meta?

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People replace out for silly reasons eh.

Anyway Back on topic. Marq is posting alot which can appear scummy and townie in the same time. I am not sure but It gives are more content to read but I still smell active lurking possibly? I dont know for sure

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@ZZZX
Are you accusing Marquis of active lurking? I thought it was her voluminous posting that caused tn to replace out. That seems like the opposite of active lurking.

Not directly active lurking but... too much posting to an extent of that many of her posts contain nothing. All her posts could be grouped by one meduim sized post

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The old excuse not to post when under pressure trick. Be more obvious scum.

as chamber for my current IP address. I'm currently sitting on a bed in a hotel near Milwaukee... come at me bro. Also, douchebag points = earned.

I don't actually care if you quickhammer me or not, I don't want to play in a game where spamming 2 pages of content on your own is perfectly acceptable.

yes, guys, keep in mind this is VI play, not SCUM play.

No. I'm replacing out because I refuse to deal with this.

@Mod: Please remove me from this game before my urge to break every single rule runs roughshod over my common sense

jesus.

Jsyk it's not like I was intentionally spamming just to bother you. It's called stream of consciousness and I was doing it so you could better gauge my reactions to everything I was reading in real time- each thought has a timestamp so the thought progression is more linear

Do it all in one post then. SIt at your computer 5 mins after each line to make sure a lil' bit don't just pop out.

People replace out for silly reasons eh.

Anyway Back on topic. Marq is posting alot which can appear scummy and townie in the same time. I am not sure but It gives are more content to read but I still smell active lurking possibly? I dont know for sure

the above is the most wishy washy post in the game thus far.

@ZZZX
Are you accusing Marquis of active lurking? I thought it was her voluminous posting that caused tn to replace out. That seems like the opposite of active lurking.

Not directly active lurking but... too much posting to an extent of that many of her posts contain nothing. All her posts could be grouped by one meduim sized post

ohh so it isn't actually happening, but it is indirectly happening by the person who must be directly controling their posts. I do not understand your post or point at all.

vote: zzzx

I still think we should just finish TN and get it over with. The last few responses are extremely over-dramatic and it seems like purposefully loud. Like TN was trying to get attention to make people think it was real frustration because of personal reasons rather than because TN really is scum caught for the wrong reasons. Fortunately, myself and a few others I'm sure can see right through the fake frustration and see TN for what it's worth. My vote stays. And your vote (the reader) should come over if it hasn't yet.

This would be true and I would agree with you, but the fact that he actually went through with it nulfies the point. There are no points given to replacements. He gained nothing from his stunt except getting out of a game that he thinks is toxic.

Imagine you posting this post over 2 and a half pages with so much random shit. Now this post is OK content for a day or two but if you keep posting useless shit to reach this post over a long period thats called active lurking IMO. (what is marq doing)

I dont mind your vote but I dont feel your reasoning thou.

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I dont mind your vote but I dont feel your reasoning thou.

Are you implying that there could be a case where you could feel his reasoning? This sounds a lot like caught for wrong reasons.

My usual playstyle is actually kinda scummy. Getting called out for it is normal and I am used to it. But he just went for some... weird reasons I dont understand.

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All caught up!
1) I suck at town, and am always lynched Day 1. I just find it odd that TN got so many votes already. I don't see any real issue, maybe because I know my role and am biased.
2) Played with TN before and they are normally like that. Aggressive and easily ticked.
3) I'm passive.
4) I laughed at Marquis' entrance. Something I do, but not THAT much.

I hate quoting because I never get the format down. So would you guys like for me to give a quick read on everyone or actually use quotes and respond to 11 pages of stuff? I don't want to waste my time repeating stuff you guys already know.

Which alignment do you do your entrance like marquis usually?

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except it applies to zzzx and he's town for his behavior and "bad" defense

as scum, he'd be much more likely to just avoid or ignore the discussion

this is exactly why meta is bullshit. It makes it permisable to defend scum and get away with it. No,

being scummy will never mean someone is town ever.

Period.

Ugh. Providing cases requires quotes or me summing something up and making a small mistake. Will do it tomorrow, its time for bed. Will try not to make a wall of text when I do.

Is this the style these days? Give us reads quotes or no quotes.

SO that means every single game I played so far I was scum.? Didn't know.

Not that I am even playing scummy at all but eh.

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I am still here, waiting for more from the new peeps.

What are your reads so far?

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I dont know if Cooldog was trying to put the wagon on me or just trying to help town. But sounds more like opportunistic scum. Not sure so I will give it a while.

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Shes talking to me about the reads. But if she read my post, which oddly enough she echoed, I said I would post more when Im not on mobile.

I will be waiting for my explainations

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I hate geology exams lol.

Will post soon. Was posting weird posts cus I was studying while playing Mafia.

Tip: not a good idea

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Let's start with...

Rach

- Show me the scumhunting. One vote. Stuck with it but what was the reason? Just because it was a naked vote? Woo. Did she question anyone else? Nope. But she did hand out town reads like candy. I count at least 4-5 people she's called town. That's easy to do as scum. Most of the posts are fluff and have no content. Why has nobody voted for her yet? No scumhunting. Town reads don't do as much as scum reads, especially when you call everyone town.

Marquis

- Has a much better play than Ninja, but I have to take Ninja's posts into consideration, most of which were scummy. The start is how I would start as scum, wacky and excited. The vote on the slot was bad. I imagine scum doing that to seem like they were actually doing scum hunting and making it seem like they knew themselves as town. That wasn't scumhunting, that was moreso "here, let's vote my slot and play it off as a joke by admitting it was scummy. They will all think I'm town! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!"

ZZZX

- Why is he town? I don't understand? Just for pushing the game forward? I've done that as scum and won. It made it seem like I was town and everyone trusted me. Quite awesome actually. Maybe this slot is null, but leans scum for now.

Bear

- Actually messed up and Bear should be null. I don't like Bears posts only for the reason I don't like them. Nothing scummy though. Just gut. I learn not to trust my gut, I'm always wrong.

Cooldog

- Original readthrough and I thought he was for sure scum. Reread and although the posts may be "bleh", it doesn't show anything. Given his responses and how carefree they are makes me lean town for him.

NotMafia

- I've seen nothing wrong with any posts and looks like actually scum hunting all game.

jklash

- Only have Chuck to go off of and he was my strongest town read. So yeah. Lets see how jklash plays.

neil

Nice strong aggressive posts against the person I replaced. Not a ton of posts but the posts have logic, good reasoning, and he sticks with his scum read and goes after it repeatedly.

Anyone want me to expand on anything?

So your scum-read on me is that I helped push the game forward to achieve town-cred? Sorry but I as a person am the least to care about town-cred as both alignments if you did try to meta me.

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/Confoim

Nothing to tell from confoiming.
No scumhunting(you'll see why at the end)

It is a lot of fun Sat, I have played it a few times. Normally I get tired of being Doc, but this setup makes it interesting. Because you never know if you will protect your target, or kill him or her. lol The paranoid Doc is like a JK and also role blocks their target.

I feel like saying that you get tired of being a Doc is a slight town slip. Almost forced. But not strong so moving on.
No sumhunting.

Chuck there are a few of us experienced types and for example I am an IC in the Newbie games so feel free to ask about game mechanics would be happy to answer.

The movie was a funny one NM :p

Yes once again I am late to the party and missed doing RVS.

ZZK I tend to be suspicious of early reads myself, partly because it takes me a while to sort everyone out.

So I do not have a lot yet, but I like the push for activity on the part of tn, if it is followed over time by some real analysis awesome, if it remains just a more activity please then I will have some concerns.

Nothing of any worth really. A few town points to my slot but that makes sense.
No scumhunting.

Ninja why so concerned over what was clearly an RVS vote?

Legit question and I think that means....
Scumhunting detected.

I had a feeling that was the point of his RVS votes, guys n gals. He played in a Newbie game recently modded by NS and it came out that we are engaged. We do not play in the same games unless as our hydra of Twin Flames, but if one of is playing and the other is modding that works out fine.

So now that is cleared up, does anyone have anything of a case besides his RVS vote?


He is at L-1, BTW. And I think it is a tad early for a lynch we have had hardly any discussion.

I have played Medical Mafia a couple of times or so and can provide some links to my games if anyone is interested.

Oh lovely. You will provide us links to your games where you are a Doc and show us this is exactly how you play. I can see either side doing this, but mostly scum trying to prove that theyre town. Kinda defensive before an attack. Saying he's at L-1 and you don't want a lynch yet, is fine. Scum say it, town say it. Asking if anyone has a case besides his RVS vote. Maybe scumhunting? I think it's moreso questioning people about their own scumhunting.
No scumhunting.

I do understand that Ninja is fairly new, but someone putting someone at L-1 with a naked vote and no reasoning this soon on D 1 makes me very nervous

Just because someone is new does not mean they are town.

VOTE: Ninja


Why the naked vote?

Scumhunting detected!

As for NM and Chuck I feel like it is more likely a T v T froofroo rather than a T v S or S v S one.

Woot. It's Halloween! Two town into her pile. 6 left!
PoE but no scumhunting.

Feel pretty good about ZZZK too he can go in my town pile.

Cool yes we want a lynch before deadline, BUT we are barely into discussion phase helping peeps figure out who is town and who is scum why would you want a lynch now?

Third time commenting on an early lynch. Scum will want an early lynch but doing so makes the lynch pool easier for town.
Also, look, more candy! 5 left!
PoE but no scumhunting.

Ven there are no post restrictions in Medical Mafia

So could you please post something other than pictures, please and thank you.

Ignoring since Ven was a head.

Not you Bear, I was talking to Venmar and his posting a pic and a quote.

Ignoring for same reason.

Puns? I love puns.

Good. I like puns too. Thanks. I'm glad we agree.
No scumhunting.

Wait a minute Ven is not playing in this game WTF? Why did he post?

Ignoring as always.

Yates why are you posting

Now I am totally confuzzled here

Ignoring agaaaaain.

Yay welcome Neil

Welcoming the newbie. Where was my welcome missy?
No scumhunting.

brain is melting atm

what an entrance. Are you trying to change your meta, Marquis? I don't think I have ever seen you so verbose in a game before

Possible scumhunting? Not really sure because it's just asking about meta.
Gonna say no scumhunting since it was a general question and they have history.

I did facepalm at the Amished tell you did right away though

Ya facepalmed because you realized your scum buddy messed up didn't ya. C'mon admit it. Alright I facepalmed too. Moreso laughed though.
No scumhunting.

Marquis is usually not that much of a poster in a game that is why it surprised me, not sure if it qualifies as a scum tell though. bah and I had such a nice scum read on Ninja

uggh the number of replacements in this game I really feel for our mod

meh normally replace outs are null, though seems to me that tn who was before engaged in the game and I had a towny read on him for that, deciding to replace out for such a reason seems a tad off.

Neil
If tn turns out to be town, who will you look at next? I am always suspicious of peeps who want to go for the one replacing out.

Ooo! Scumhunting. This is the question I missed, my bad for misrepping! I like most of this post.

I am still here, waiting for more from the new peeps.

Okie dokie I gave info now.

not feeling as confident about my read on marquis as I was on ninja.

For a 2nd suspect, meh it is a bit difficult which is why I want clarification on the replacements.

not really seeing the case on either Neil or Cool Dog, both seem too out there being noticed to be scum. I would expect scum to be laying low a bit at this point in the game. I know I could be wrong of course and of the two, Cool Dog feels more scummy than Neil.

Not seeing the case on zzzk I think hes probably town too.

I agree with your first sentence. So no second suspect? Giving out half pieces of candy here to both Neil and Cool Dog. Then you say Cool Dog is scummier than Neil. Please don't try to make the best of both worlds here, you're getting everyone to agree with you.
Still thinking zzzk is town. Good, you already gave him candy.
PoE but no scumhunting.

Posting on my kindle fire so more details later. Are you role fishing sns? Seriously ?


VOTE: sns

What. Just what. Role fishing? When we assume everyone is a Doctor and he was going to claim? That's considered role fishing nowadays? Jeez. Rolefishing is bad and that wasn't rolefishing. But look at the vote. First change since the beginning of the game and it's on my top scum read who I voted. I'm not fishing but you sure do smell like fish.
I guess I will say scumhunting here but that was hell of a reaction compared to earlier posts.

I scum hunt and town hunt too, because PoE helps me figure things out.

Love the misrep though that I did not question anyone else

My bad for misrep. Cleared it up. You questioned one person. Once. I don't count Marquis much since it wasn't questions trying to reveal something.
No scumhunting here.

That was most definitely not an OMGUS vote, I was getting vibes from your first post on here sns that bothered me.

Your ISO screams scum at me. BTW even if dude was soft claiming, why fish? If you think he is scum, then you should give intent to hammer, if you do not think he is scum, you should have left it alone, not made a neon sign for the scum.

Just explained this and still find it a little ridiculous.
Scumhunting. Wow. Such great job. I impressed. I just screaaaaaam scum.

Let's see. 22 posts, not a lot, but only 5 were scumhunting. She gave town reads and soft town reads on 5 people. If we count her, that means 6. Which means only 3 possible scum in her eyes. Me, Marquis(which she is thinking about retracting), and no read on bear. No interaction really either. Interesting.
So I can see how PoE can work but if you're wrong then it can mess town up bad. Scumhunting on the other hand is immensely better as you actually have a chance at catching scum.

That was the biggest post of my life. Wow. Hopefully it formats correctly.

nice analysis. I will post my theorys too soon enough. 2AM ATM

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here

Yo Saki. I get to play with you again eh?

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and my god who the hell is who why do i have to keep the first page open to keep track of who is who in a 13 page gameeeee

Hi Saki!

Not going to lie, I busted out laughing here. It is ridiculous how many replacements we've already had (and are having)...

I must get an award if I became only player who didn't replace

I read over 20 slots and my mind is fried

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Guys do not hammer. I will get the weekend tomorrow into finally focusing inti the game

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If you guys don't start posting I will play like a drunk failure and hammer.

This day is going no freaking where.

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Eh, I dont know everyienes ages, but around this time is finals for college and exams for school in general. I notice they start posting after a normal school day would get out. But I concur. This was the easiest replacement Ive ever done.

Well 2moro is a saturday

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Guys do not hammer. I will get the weekend tomorrow into finally focusing inti the game

If you guys don't start posting I will play like a drunk failure and hammer.

This day is going no freaking where.

Wow, what a difference in tone? It's a little contradictory if you ask me...

@Mod Requesting VC please

I seriously thought you were requesting a replacement, I was like I'm done. Lol

Votecount 1.10

CooLDoG - 3 - jklash12, Marquis, Not_Mafia
snscompt1 - 3 - neil1113, RachMarie, Saki
Marquis - 1 - ZZZX
RachMarie - 1 - snscompt1
ZZZX - 1 - CooLDoG

Not Voting: ...

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-05-23 04:02:11)

V/LA: CooLDoG, "few days" from Sunday May 11

SNS, you're not at L-1. I almost unvoted because I thought you were. Did you miscount?

Holy cow, I didnt think it was going to be this dead. Way to make it easy for scum guys.

I apologize, I've been gone at the beach and running errands all day, then out to dinner with a bunch of friends. I'm here now though! <3

Hey Saki. I had to keep the first page open when I replaced in too lol. It was hard to keep track of who was replaced by who because there have been so many this game.

Yeah, it's almost like we're just starting the game all over again. RVS part 2! Nah, just kidding. On a serious note, any reads? Anything we might have missed? How do you feel about the lynch subjects SNS and CoolDog?

UNVOTE:

I don't know how I feel about pursuing SNS anymore, at least for Day 1. However, I think I'm getting more comfortable (warmed up?) to a CoolDog lynch. I wasn't reading him as scum until his sudden turn-around buss with SNS on Rach. I think SNS had an excellent case against Rach, one that should have been noted by everyone playing, and one that should be tested before you just sheep. If it was tested, and you looked at Rach's regular play, you'd realize it was false. Coming from someone who doesn't know Rachael, I can see where SNS is coming from. CD on the other hand, no clue.

VOTE: CoolDog this is L-1.

Let me explain: 2 Real Life days with 0 posts. I might as well give a small push in order to make it happen.

Deadline approching and we cant waste a sec. Honestly I am more up for a cooldog lynch than sns. I will be thinking this over and do a quick PbPA

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Eh, did I miss something? The two posts you made were only 4 hours apart.

You missed the fact that this half of the game is:

One more replacement?

Oh no.

Hey you know whats funny?

RANDOM POST HERE.



NOONE IS EVEN TRYING TO SCUM HUNT AT ALL>

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Cooldog is town. What da fuk is y'alls problem with him?

I think he is derp town. I am not voting him yet but I dont want him at lylo generally. But I am not really into his case atm.

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i really don't have anything to say atm
why isn't sns dead yet

Why dont you answer questions addressed to you?
And should I be? Why am I the scummiest?

There were questions addressed to me? Because I was reading and I didn't find any.

What. Just what. Role fishing? When we assume everyone is a Doctor and he was going to claim?

That's considered role fishing nowadays?

Jeez. Rolefishing is bad and that wasn't rolefishing.

bolded directly contradicts underlined
and then you say rolefishing is bad

so yeah you should die


and are we really driving a wagon on someone who's V/LA

Well I must say his post is actually legit. He is just asking if he is nurse as it is the only claim (and it shouldn't hurt if he did claim i guess) so I find find that role fishing unless you were expecting someone to claim cop...

I am not sure if you are just trying to make him an easier lynch or something by putting him at l1. I would love you right now if I didnt know it was your meta to derp

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Guys I have decided on the lynch we should do.

[ZZZX]

Writing it with reasons next 10~ minites

[ZZZX]

ZZZX's PbPA on RachMarie

Warning: WALL OF FREAKING AWEASOM SCUM HUNTING TEXT AND BANANAS

Spoiler:

/Confoim

Nothing here.

It is a lot of fun Sat, I have played it a few times. Normally I get tired of being Doc, but this setup makes it interesting. Because you never know if you will protect your target, or kill him or her. lol The paranoid Doc is like a JK and also role blocks their target.

I find this post abit interesting. It is not really much but its still interesting and its observing setup instead of scum hunting. Well It was still early so I gave her a pass

Chuck there are a few of us experienced types and for example I am an IC in the Newbie games so feel free to ask about game mechanics would be happy to answer.

The movie was a funny one NM :p

Yes once again I am late to the party and missed doing RVS.

ZZK I tend to be suspicious of early reads myself, partly because it takes me a while to sort everyone out.

So I do not have a lot yet, but I like the push for activity on the part of tn, if it is followed over time by some real analysis awesome, if it remains just a more activity please then I will have some concerns.

Playing really passive there. slightly attacking/bussing tn?

Ninja why so concerned over what was clearly an RVS vote?

No comment

I had a feeling that was the point of his RVS votes, guys n gals. He played in a Newbie game recently modded by NS and it came out that we are engaged. We do not play in the same games unless as our hydra of Twin Flames, but if one of is playing and the other is modding that works out fine.

So now that is cleared up, does anyone have anything of a case besides his RVS vote?


He is at L-1, BTW. And I think it is a tad early for a lynch we have had hardly any discussion.

I have played Medical Mafia a couple of times or so and can provide some links to my games if anyone is interested.

Trying to get town cred here. He is trying to say that the L1 lynch is bad when clearly noone sane enough will do it.

I do understand that Ninja is fairly new, but someone putting someone at L-1 with a naked vote and no reasoning this soon on D 1 makes me very nervous

Just because someone is new does not mean they are town.

VOTE: Ninja


Why the naked vote?

Legit vote with a not so legit motive behind it. Again Town Cred

As for NM and Chuck I feel like it is more likely a T v T froofroo rather than a T v S or S v S one.

Scum Manual Rule #5 : Never Scum ready anyone EVER

Feel pretty good about ZZZK too he can go in my town pile.

Cool yes we want a lynch before deadline, BUT we are barely into discussion phase helping peeps figure out who is town and who is scum why would you want a lynch now?

Read above.

Ven there are no post restrictions in Medical Mafia

So could you please post something other than pictures, please and thank you.

Uh ha.

Not you Bear, I was talking to Venmar and his posting a pic and a quote.

Uh ha.

Puns? I love puns.

Uh ha. Oh wait I got enough of random posting.

Wait a minute Ven is not playing in this game WTF? Why did he post?

Uh ha.

Yates why are you posting

Now I am totally confuzzled here

Uh ha.

Yay welcome Neil

Uh ha.

brain is melting atm

what an entrance. Are you trying to change your meta, Marquis? I don't think I have ever seen you so verbose in a game before

Uh ha.

I did facepalm at the Amished tell you did right away though

Uh ha. This is like active lurking by now.

Marquis is usually not that much of a poster in a game that is why it surprised me, not sure if it qualifies as a scum tell though. bah and I had such a nice scum read on Ninja

uggh the number of replacements in this game I really feel for our mod

meh normally replace outs are null, though seems to me that tn who was before engaged in the game and I had a towny read on him for that, deciding to replace out for such a reason seems a tad off.

Neil
If tn turns out to be town, who will you look at next? I am always suspicious of peeps who want to go for the one replacing out.

Wait when did you have a scum read on ninja.? Now you are avoiding scum reading anyone

I am still here, waiting for more from the new peeps.

We are waiting for your posts. New peps posted more than you

not feeling as confident about my read on marquis as I was on ninja.

For a 2nd suspect, meh it is a bit difficult which is why I want clarification on the replacements.

not really seeing the case on either Neil or Cool Dog, both seem too out there being noticed to be scum.

I would expect scum to be laying low a bit at this point in the game.

I know I could be wrong of course and of the two, Cool Dog feels more scummy than Neil.

Not seeing the case on zzzk I think hes probably town too.

Well the bolded part is what you are doing.

Posting on my kindle fire so more details later. Are you role fishing sns? Seriously ?


VOTE: sns

Another vote that is basically trying to use the chance. but you failed at it.

That was most definitely not an OMGUS vote, I was getting vibes from your first post on here sns that bothered me.

Your ISO screams scum at me. BTW even if dude was soft claiming, why fish? If you think he is scum, then you should give intent to hammer, if you do not think he is scum, you should have left it alone, not made a neon sign for the scum.

I ... dont know about this post.

More replacements wow I feel for my fiance on modding this game dang. Which means ZZK no way am I replacing out on him

Meanwhile back to the game,

Actually that is not bad there sns. Wrong, but definitely some good analysis.

Cool Dog Seriously? Go stalk my posts if you want. Do you have anything else that is an actual CASE or just parroting what sns said?

Some how you now town read sns and feel bad about Cool Dog after Sns posts a list? Really not wanting to scum read anyone at all?

Tl;Dr

She has no scum reads

Playing too passive

active lurking

and New peps doing more work than her.

I dont think anyone is scummy enough to eat a lynch but she seems the best one for the job.

Rachmarie

[ZZZX]

Vote RachMarie

[ZZZX]

What distinguishes Rach from everyone else? None of us are exactly doing amazingly here

Well you sure are in the same boat as her but everyone here at least is giving reads and esp SCUM READS

0 Scum Reads ARE a scumtell

[ZZZX]

Also, just going through again, she never said she town reads me. And if she did, I doubt the vote would still be there.

She didn't even hard-Scum claim you

She is like

meh lets vote sns

also when did you type what I did? I did a PbPA that noone did I think. unless I oversaw it, Sorry if I did

[ZZZX]

That wasnt supposed to be that spoiler. Meh
(the spoiler contains : meh lets vote sns)

[ZZZX]

Nice misrep there zzzk

Lets see I scum read Marquis' pred, and thought he replaced in and I started questioning my read, I still have not put him in my town pile, just explored others as well,. I scum read sns.

Which part from my read was inaccurate?

Quote it and prove it and I will gladly go back from my read.

However I am not sure yet. The lynch today is either cool as a policy OR rach for a higher chance.

I never loved policy lynches but I don't find anyone scummy enough to warrant a lynch and it seems we have to make a tough choose here.

[ZZZX]

"Some how you now town read sns and feel bad about Cool Dog after Sns posts a list? Really not wanting to scum read anyone at all?"

All false.

That isnt even half false.

She scum read you until you posted your reads. and suddenly goes on cool dog after 0 posts about him. (then goes back to you)

[ZZZX]

Lol, Im sure Rach will explain. Its not my place, but Im pretty positive that wasnt her train of thought.

1- You seem defending her for some reason even thou you scum read her for the same reason: Scum points for you.

2- How the banana am I supposed to know her train of thought? I only have her written text. But you seem to understand it.

IF rach flips scum I am nearly sure you would be her partner

[ZZZX]

I like your vote, your reasons are bad. You more or less repeated what I said but in a different fashion. Claiming an awesome scum hunting thing while mimicking me isnt really scumhunting. Just saying.

"Some how you now town read sns and feel bad about Cool Dog after Sns posts a list? Really not wanting to scum read anyone at all?"

All false.

way to make yourself look bad.

and I dont think I changed the case inbetween those 2 posts. You went from me mimicking you to an ALL FALSE case?

[ZZZX]

I like your vote, your reasons are bad. You more or less repeated what I said but in a different fashion. Claiming an awesome scum hunting thing while mimicking me isnt really scumhunting. Just saying.

"Some how you now town read sns and feel bad about Cool Dog after Sns posts a list? Really not wanting to scum read anyone at all?"

All false.

way to make yourself look bad.

and I dont think I changed the case inbetween those 2 posts. You went from me mimicking you to an ALL FALSE case?

[ZZZX]

No. Stop misrepping. Read a bit. Your entire case was mimicking mine, that quote was entirely false.

Explain how it is false. Otherwise stay in the sides. You have no reason to "defend" your scum read I thought

Really interesting turn over. The only thing I am sure off anyway is rach is prob scum.

P.s I didnt even get to read your case on her when I posted mine.

[ZZZX]

I already explained how it was false. Post 367.
Um, yes I do? I treat everyone equally. If she isnt scum and Im wrong, Id like to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Then why did you say I made a good case right after I made it?

Can you quote that? I dont remeber I did (On phone so i cant really navigate anything other than this page)

Also 367 didnt explain it at all. She wasn't thinking that?

[ZZZX]

Post 305
"nice analysis. I will post my theorys too soon enough. 2AM ATM"
You quoted my entire analysis.

And Im not sure how else to put it if you dont understand 367.

After looking I agree it seems I read it if I posted that. I still dont remember (Could do with the 2AM part)

Also do you think scumtells are clear? Scum indirectly use some keywords and expressions. You can say they are not thinking about the scummy part when they post but physiologically they cant deny that part of themselfs

[ZZZX]

Lol, that made me crack up. In a good way. Youre right, but I try not to look at scumtells much because it usually ends up being careless town. It does have its moments though. Typically, I look at how people reply to things and not what they say, but rather what they dont, hence my argument on Rach. Er, I think that answers your question. I think.

Yea. I feel better about you.

And more wanting to lynch Rach lol

[ZZZX]

TBF my case is weak on you sns and the more you post the more I doubt myself. My main strong scum read was Ninja and then Marquis replaced in and totally changed my read on that slot meh. Too many replacements in this game

However I really do not think Cool Dog is scum. I think especially with the soft claim and the resulting mess afterwards that lynching him would be bad for town.

Saki? meh maybe? Bear Claw did not contribute much, and Saki has not posted that much content since replacing in. He basically just is kinda coasting along. And he just sheeped my read without question.

VOTE: Saki

P.s you are just as guilty of coasting as he is.

[ZZZX]

So is everyone it seems.

That is why this game is bad. I am the only one trying now. I miss tn.. :<

[ZZZX]

neil1113 May 10, 09:49am May 18, 05:36am 1 day 11 hours 13

and cool dog (20 posts)

Stop lurking and start posting.

[ZZZX]

Dafuq man. I replaced tn and am pushing lol. I must be a ghost.

Tn was a fun man you are pushing but his felt more natural. But I dont deny your pushing is nice too.

[ZZZX]

Lol. No biggie. I am forcing it because right now if no one wants to interact, why should I? Im losing stean quick.

Well reminds me of a fun game I played in jungle republic. Had 60% of the posts of the game

was the seer and caught both wolfs but got night killed before the last wolf. It was a really fun game.

[ZZZX]

I must say my few games with Saki prove how scummy town can be lol

[ZZZX]

So you think Saki is town?

Possibly. Not confirmed thou but he plays this bad usually

[ZZZX]

omgus harder sns

"saki normally plays this bad"
mk if you bring in meta, quote
but you cna't meta me anyways because noone can hahahahahahaha

I have seen and played with enough Saki to know that is how you play. And I am null-slightly town reading you atm.

@everyone voting saki: Explain your case outside the trolling?

[ZZZX]

That was a horrid argument. Half of what you said was false. Ladies and gents, I think we have found scum number 1.

You have said half what I said was wrong too and didnt scum hunt me. Is there anything I missed about saki that made you suspect him? Show me because I am not seeing it.

[ZZZX]

omgus harder sns

"saki normally plays this bad"
mk if you bring in meta, quote
but you cna't meta me anyways because noone can hahahahahahaha

I have seen and played with enough Saki to know that is how you play. And I am null-slightly town reading you atm.

@everyone voting saki: Explain your case outside the trolling?

The trolling is kinda being anti town though. If hes scum, then good. If hes town, well, at least we get to move on properly. On top of that, slight sheeping(no big deal though), not answering questions(finally he did but after wreching on his arm), and making false statements. That needs to go.

You have said half what I said was wrong too and didnt scum hunt me. Is there anything I missed about saki that made you suspect him? Show me because I am not seeing it.

Besides what I just said, we actually had a conversation. It was back and forth quite a bit but tese were the differences:
1) You came across as town. Saki does not. You questioned my points and tried to understand, Saki doesnt seem to care about anything besides lynching me.
2) When I finally showed you what I was talking about, you conceded in a couple areas, you were willing to understand. Saki doesnt appear to be doing so.
3) Saki isnt engaging that much. You are town motivated.

If you want more I can give then when Im not on mobile.

A Saki lynch is at best a Policy one I believe

that is all what I mean.

[ZZZX]

In 24 hours I will join the best wagon I can think off.

[ZZZX]

... I really want to lynch you both right now...

[ZZZX]

da hell... lol

[ZZZX]

Hmm.. This is lylo/Mylo depending on how we look at it huh...

I am surprised with those flips. I cant understand mafia targetting at all actually. (I get that one of them can be quack or CPR)

Anyway what do you guys think?

[ZZZX]

Guys get freaking speaking.

[ZZZX]

This game is freaking sad

[ZZZX]

VOTE: snscompt

Still scumreading that slot

@mod Could we get the current playerlist edited in to the post at the top of this page?

vote sns

is my way to force you to talk


This is l1 I thinknt. I am ready to bet our doctor protects over this oversleeping town any time

[ZZZX]

I have a game wining tactic. But I need absolute trust to make it work. Are you guys up to it?

[ZZZX]

Go on

Typing it, needs 10 minutes to type.

[ZZZX]

This plan needs absolute trust. If you have even a tiny amount of unease about my alignment just say so right now.

So basically here is the plan:

Player list: Saki, jklash12, Marquis, Not_Mafia, snscompt1, ZZZX

We lynch today: <Snscompt1> or <Saki>

Now to the interesting part

If your protect killed someone you will follow this list below

Saki: Target Marquis

jklash12: Target Saki

Marquis: Target jklash

Not_mafia: Target anyone above.

Now if your protect did nothing then Target Not_Mafia.

Now here is some analysis:

we are 6 people. If sns was a mislynch we are now 5 with 2 mafia

We have a 80% chance to kill a mafia. I am ready to be a scapegoat for the good of the game.

I wish to have absolute trust in this plan. If anyone acts alone ... we are screwed. If you dont intend to follow let me know now.

[ZZZX]

@mod: does the quack doctor kill happen before the mafia? and if the mafia member performing the kill died does the kill go throu?

Next night plan:

Lets say we caught one scum and we lost one guy... That is prob me but lets look it over:

[ZZZX]

I will update the 2nd night after I do some analysis on it again.

[ZZZX]

this game is so freaking sad with the inactivity.

Anyone not posting with confirmation of this plan in 12-24 hours will be lynched meep beep.

[ZZZX]

i trust that everyone knows what their best choice for the night is anyway zzzx.

i would much rather lynch saki than sns. saki's blatantly obvscum and "i'm not changing my read" wording at a point suggests a certain nontown perspective. like it's not even an actual read just something he's obligated to stick to. because scum. he is scum.

You forgot the fact that if no one manages those night actions and we mislynch we auto lose right?

[ZZZX]

I just found a better plan but I need to ask.

Not mafia did you claim killing someone with ur protect?

[ZZZX]

There is no town reason to claim actions atm.

So Saki don't.

For my plan I need a nurse claim. Go on ex.nurse show your self please?

Oh and one last thing. Lynch of today is sns so far. He is doing it so badly. If Saki was scum he could fake protect anyone and say it.

[ZZZX]

*shrug* Fine.

If you dont want to be lynched try to convince me that I shouldn't. But I had a better idea anyway but I need a nurse claim...


Sns are you nurse?


We dont. Claiming will screw us up and we lose important roles. I got this game on lock atm

[ZZZX]

Are you talking about your plan a page or two back?

Nope. I got a new one that is similar

[ZZZX]

Oh and sns give me one reason we need claims

[ZZZX]

Then care to elaborate? Or does it really need to be shared after the nurse claims? Which is weird as of right now because I cant see why town needs the nurse to claim.

I want claims because of how close we are to losing. If your plan is foolproof and doesnt need claimz then I will gladly go with it but I think claims would be helpful.

My plan is not 100% foolproof but it is good enough to be considered so. The fact is the reason for the nurse claim will be shared after nurse claims. It is a really simple thing.

[ZZZX]

I have no qualms with this. If your plan sucks balls my vote moves to you for having the nurse claim lol.

Its not like a nurse claim is really any worse than your full claim. But fine. Are you the nurse then?

[ZZZX]

Mine does almost nothing because we cant decypher qho is who due to scum also claiming.

Then why should we claim?

Are you nurse?

[ZZZX]

I think it is worse since the nurse actually can stall the game. Mine does almost nothing because we cant decypher qho is who due to scum also claiming.

Anyways. It should be fairly obvious the way I reacted now and way back when that Im not the nurse.

If we didnt follow a strict plan then we already lost. Thats why we should do what I am saying right now.

[ZZZX]

Mine does almost nothing because we cant decypher qho is who due to scum also claiming.

Then why should we claim?

Because it would help. Just not a ton. And the way it stands we kinda need every bit of help possible.

It would just hinder my plan.

[ZZZX]

Yo

If nurse doesnt claim in 24 hours I will be really fucking mad.

Tyvm

[ZZZX]

If noone claims nurse It is effectively Jackal.

I guess I will wait a bit..

[ZZZX]

DON'T claim actions it won't help

no we won't know how to protect each other because we don't know which roles have been eliminated. barely any of the doctors just protect. others protect only in certain scenarios.

if your ego is big enough that you think you'll be able to divine the exact nature of the setup at this time,
with 3 town roles dead in a partial flip,
and 2 out of the 6 players lying to confuse the town
(no we probably won't be able to catch scum in a lie, because this isn't dethy and there are more than just 4 possible versions of the main town role)
then............ just stop. we're not claiming

however

i am going to ask that nurse claims RIGHT NOW if they are still alive. the main reason for this is so that mafia can't use the lack of claim now to claim the role when they think nurse has died.

(hint: if you live to tomorrow and i see a new nurse claim, i will treat it as a scum fakeclaim. no exceptions)

Thanks for summing up my thoughts

[ZZZX]

We either no lynch and all doctors target me so we don't kill someone accidently OR we lynch now and we follow the plan few pages ago

[ZZZX]

For now I would like to actually make this happen. I did this game over and over and we are basically nearly screwed. I am trying to think this and am interested about something. Hmm my mind going to blow lol.


Now let me think. Why isn't nurse claiming?

@Mod I have 2 questions. If we lynch wrong at lylo is it an auto lose or do we get a chance to win the night game?


And if someone was a nurse that became a doctor then replaced out will his replacement know he was a nurse?

[ZZZX]

and last @mod if both doctor and nurse die in night will nurse appear as doctor?

[ZZZX]

And sns who did you target?

[ZZZX]

So I got the first claim of the killing role. Anyone else ended up killing?


@cool dog the questions answered by mod basically told me ideas. Your claim did to. So a mass claim gives us a chance to know If we have a paranoid doctor alive which can basically rock.


So go ahead and claim guys. I will be last to claim for a reason I will explain later. I have the final plan ready

[ZZZX]

vote jackal

Because I believe sns is town with his claim. Just hope he survives.


Sns target Saki next night if you can

I need the 2nd killer claim

Now if we have both killers mafia can't kill us all.

Anyone not a killer target nit Mafia
2nd killer target Marquis unless you are Marquisten target Saki



Gr8 we just got the game solved unless sns's claim was fake but I have a theory

[ZZZX]

all non killers target Not_Mafia. (that doesnt make him confirmed town but a part of my plan)

[ZZZX]

if he flips scum then killers target noone

that way next day we get a 4 players mylo and if we mislynch the killer can actually fix it up.

I think we are screwed after looking at the plan and whats going on again.


If we mislynch and we kill 2 people wrong we basically auto lose

if we lynch right and kill 2 people wrong we are in lylo

if we lynch right and kill the 2nd scum then we are lucky bastards.
if we lynch wrong and not hit scum in any way we lose instantly.
if we lynch wrong and kill 2 wrong we auto lose
if we lynch wrong and kill one right we get lylo

so best move is to actually no kill if we lynch scum or kill if we lynch wrong...

righjt now whatever we do we are nearly screwed so I want some mass claiming. @sns I was wrong about mass claiming again

But before I mass claim did anyone target rach? I think we might still have naive doctor alive... ?

[ZZZX]

Unvote

so no derp hammaz

[ZZZX]

my wording did include scum kill calculation but we have nothing to be done about scum kill you see... its sad but true

[ZZZX]

GUYS BEING INACTIVE ISNT FREAKING HELPING

actually I posted the plan. Anyone confirmed to do it post in the next 24 hours

not posting gets you lynched today.

[ZZZX]

*sigh* Welp. This sucks. Since this wont change, and I wanted to do this anyways, I probably have a killing role.

Not sure what to make of this. I want to believe he's town.
If so, then Saki is almost certainly scum. Especially with the lurk-enough-to-be-prodded over the past couple days.

I agree with Z's plan giving the best potential for town to win.

And since I'm very likely to be dead soon: I claim non-killer doc.

who was your target?
e

[ZZZX]

I believe that jackal claim is basically a paranoid doctor. Why? Because both me and sns targeted rach.

SO if you take in account that the only doctor that will not interfer is naive doctor or paranoid'd person it makes sense.

So Jackal I will let you live if you target say um Marquis?

also did anyone target me/sns/anyone? Time for a full claim

[ZZZX]

i am leaning on going for saki or sns for the moment but I am not sure what to do

[ZZZX]

zzzx i really don't care. vote jackal.

No. Why would I so far? I actually feel he is a mislynch at this mylo. I feel you for example have a higher chance of flipping scum

[ZZZX]

Vote SAKI

I FREAKING GIVE UP MY MIND WAS FRIED AND THIS TOWN ISNT EVEN FREAKING HELPING WITH THIS FREAKING INACTIVITY

now after I calmed down just follow the plan I set and just freaking lynch someone go go go. I have no town/scum reads at all cus noone is even talking.

[ZZZX]

this is sad.. really sad

I dont even give a ... banana anymore.

[ZZZX]

Well If we dont hit scum just follow the plan i written a few pages ago if you want a hope of wining.

[ZZZX]

Your plan was written based on me being the lynch. Who should I target?

well I told you to target Not Mafia for now.

[ZZZX]

If you think you might be vig, if Saki flips scum get Jackal, if he flips town get SNS

[ZZZX]

Plan is going perfectly. I idled last night and now its time for the biggest gamble I will take this game

I will choose one random person from you guys. If he is scum we are done for. If he is town we will win

Using random.org since all wifom is burning my brain

I will trust not Mafia, We lynch Marquis/Jackal now and I use my kill of the other one.


Discuss then we do it.

Vote Jackal

[ZZZX]

@ZZZX Why do you townread me over Marquis esp. given Saki's flip? The SNS lynch was easily achievable if they were a scumteam.

Its totally random
Do you mind if I vigged you and kept marquis alive then?

[ZZZX]

Well after jackal its you or him.


You might as well HamMar please. I will randomly shoot depending on my mood
Other doctor do not target anyone

[ZZZX]

if this doesnt end the game then 2nd doctor on me for funz

[ZZZX]

Gg wp