Mini 1582: Formerfish's First Foray (Game Over)

Boonskiies · Post Post #23 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:54 pm

VOTE: KittyMo

Boonskiies · Post Post #59 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:43 pm

Unvote: KittyMo

I believe ILF and Shinobi are scum. As soon as someone tried to get some votes onto ILF, Shinobi tried getting that person lynched. And again, Shinobi just tried and protected ILF. I get that he 'might be trying to save a townie', but I just don't buy it.

Vote: Shinobi

I will hammer on ILF if an extra vote is needed though.

Boonskiies · Post Post #66 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:48 am

I'm actually not sure what RVS is, to be fair. If that means the first page, then that is what I am referring to.
I stand by my votes.

@KittyMo I've played quite a bit in person, but this is my first onsite game.

Boonskiies · Post Post #68 (isolation #3) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:16 am

Thanks for clearing that up. In any case, I'm still going to stand with my votes. Shinobi's play on the first page, voting for the person who voted for ILF immediately after didn't add up anything to me, until he tried getting away from the ILF vote. I think they're scum buddies.

Boonskiies · Post Post #69 (isolation #4) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:18 am

@KittyMo my friend actually showed me this site about a week ago. He is also the one I play with in person.

Boonskiies · Post Post #71 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:56 am

First page, bjc voted for you. Post after that, shining votes bjc, so yes, he did vote for one who voted for you without a reason.

Boonskiies · Post Post #72 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:57 am

Shinobi, not shining. Auto correct makes me look like scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #74 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:32 pm

Correct, because either way, I believe Shinobi is acting scummier than you are, but I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up being scum. I'm pretty dead set on Shinobi though, well, because gut, as Shinobi said.

Boonskiies · Post Post #77 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:06 pm

Getting day drunk with the mafia gang?

Boonskiies · Post Post #79 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:21 pm

I still believe he is scum, no matter what you are.

and about Drew, he didn't want to jump on the bandwagon and give himself up. ^ ;P

Boonskiies · Post Post #81 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:07 pm

It can be a confirmation as to as if she is town or scum. I didn't read it as a slip, but that was just me. I'm saying this, and I do indeed think there is a high probability of her being scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #83 (isolation #11) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:37 pm

He once again tried hard to protect ILF on page 3 I believe. I'm not really sure on ILF being scum, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was. That's what I said pretty much. I only think she is possible of being scum due to Shinobi's treatment towards her (scumbuddies?), and also the way she is playing I can see it go either way. I'm more on Shinobi than ILF.

Boonskiies · Post Post #85 (isolation #12) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:02 pm

I agree with that. ^ It is why my vote is and will stay on Shinobi instead of ILF until something convinces me otherwise.

Boonskiies · Post Post #89 (isolation #13) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:13 pm

His little effort is all more part of the reason I think he's scum. Why make the effort if you aren't going to do much at all?

Boonskiies · Post Post #98 (isolation #14) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:55 am

@Drew I was kidding about you being mafia. I haven't gotten any reads off of you. I am on your side when you think ILF is a scummy. And I guess I'm looking too much into the Shinobi business.

Side note...Shinobi is a Naruto thing. ILF's footer is a quote from Naruto. SCUM BUDDIES!!!!

Boonskiies · Post Post #99 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:56 am

In post 91, Shinobi wrote:Will respond to this nonsense eventually. Hopefully tomorrow.

Let it be known that almost everything Boonskiies said is either hilarious or annoying.

I try to have the perfect mix of obnoxiousness to see who I start to annoy. That way if I die in the night, it can be a semi tell.

Boonskiies · Post Post #101 (isolation #16) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:32 am

Octopus, hello. How are you?

Boonskiies · Post Post #105 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:10 pm

I have a big town read on Grib. That's why I'm so worried...it's almost too big.

Boonskiies · Post Post #106 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:24 pm

So, how is all y'all's day been?

Boonskiies · Post Post #107 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:25 pm

Uhm, has....

Boonskiies · Post Post #109 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Simply just was implying that no one really has even gave a thought to as if Grib was scum, other than the fact that if he is, it's scary.

Boonskiies · Post Post #111 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:09 pm

VOTE: OkaPoka

Everyone of his posts were him trying to bring focus on Grib, who is seemingly a role with two votes, and the rest has been him changing who he had been voting for. I'll ease up on Shinobi for now.

Boonskiies · Post Post #112 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:10 pm

^seemingly a role with two votes which is potentially very dangerous against scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #115 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:00 pm

Well, he keeps trying to put Grib on the spot. If Grib is town, we obviously want to keep him because of the second vote. Other than that, I don't think anyone else is outstandingly scummy. It doesn't make sense for a townie to lynch a town role with two votes.

Boonskiies · Post Post #116 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:27 pm

So what's everyone's thoughts on massive?

Boonskiies · Post Post #118 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:20 pm

No one had really brought up or talked about massive really. Just wanting some two cents. I have only really had two accusations. Shinobi (w/ ILF potentially) and OkaPoka (not a strong one, but I just want to see where it goes).

Boonskiies · Post Post #123 (isolation #26) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:34 am

1. How do you
know
Grib is a town role?
2. What has Shinobi done to clear himself? You've gone from I think he's scum to your view that no one else is outstandingly scummy, Shinobi hasn't posted anything that would cause a change of mind between these two posts.

1. There's no way to be sure, but at this point it's all we have. He shouldn't be a day 1 lynch, because if he's town, scum would be stupid not to kill him in the night.
2. He hasn't done anything. I am very much still on the boat thinking he is scum, but I have no further arguments due to him haven't posted again. I surely do want to keep that on everyone's mind though.

Boonskiies · Post Post #126 (isolation #27) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:31 am

Oi, and now he's angry.

Boonskiies · Post Post #130 (isolation #28) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:19 am

;P haha. Like you said, it is only 6 pages in. I don't think we have major evidence against anyone at this point.

Boonskiies · Post Post #134 (isolation #29) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:23 am

It's 'likely' that I'm scum because I am 'randomly' accusing people of being scum. Although it's only really been you, and a little of OkaPoka.

Boonskiies · Post Post #140 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:50 pm

There's only been 6 pages, and you've posted on most of them; it's not that hard to keep up.

Boonskiies · Post Post #143 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:58 pm

Well, do you have any input from what you have seen?

Boonskiies · Post Post #149 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:59 pm

I think he knows this. But if he's scum, he doesn't have any worry of this, now does he? That was a very strange play that he claimed to be PR, and it's seeming very scummy to me. You being the one to point this out makes me think less of your scumminess. For now...

Unvote: OkaPoka

Vote: Bjc

Boonskiies · Post Post #150 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:00 pm

About to be wagon'd so you falsely claim a PR? Scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #155 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:14 pm

In post 152, Formerfish wrote:Damnit I was doing so well too!

I apologize! I was actually trying not to do that! Haha.

It's ok, I was bathing the baby and electronics don't mix with water.

______________________

So, everyone. There was absolutely no reason to claim a PR if he was town, and if he was playing as a town member, I believe he would have realized that. I believe we should wrap up day 1 with this.

Boonskiies · Post Post #156 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Plus, the lurking play style fits better as scum anyhow.

Boonskiies · Post Post #159 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:23 pm

In post 157, OkaPoka wrote:I want to know how he was so confident in false claiming. I know it might be scummy to quick claim, but Boon doesn't mention it AT ALL.

I don't mention his quick claim? I completely made my assumption due to him claiming, no matter if it was near his lynch or not. It made no sense to to claim where he is unless he's scum. I may not have referred directly to the 'quick claim', but it's what was implied.

Boonskiies · Post Post #181 (isolation #37) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:08 pm

In post 175, Octopus wrote:
In post 164, theelkspeaks wrote:
Snip->

I think the mechanics of the doublevoting role are of interest to legitimate townies, because I could also believe that a scum would fake an unconfirmable/unconfirmed doublevoting role to get conftown status, to comment on the discussion in #121
Missed this last time, another person who isn't following the game.

Good arguments...

Boonskiies · Post Post #182 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:09 pm

Idk why it quoted. I didn't mean for it too. My phone...

Boonskiies · Post Post #201 (isolation #39) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:51 am

My initial vote was completely random.

Boonskiies · Post Post #206 (isolation #40) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:10 pm

And my Shinobi scumdar has just shined a bright red light unless he can give a good reason for that massive vote.

Boonskiies · Post Post #208 (isolation #41) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:13 pm

Although I am willing to just policy lynch Bjc.

Boonskiies · Post Post #213 (isolation #42) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:18 pm

Lack of time allows me really to only make one line comments. I'm busy throughout the day due to an internship. When I have time I shall post my more explicit thoughts. Plus, my one liners get reactions, a la yours.
Shinobi has been my main scum read throughout this game, so that is my main reason for seeing it on the scummy side.

Boonskiies · Post Post #217 (isolation #43) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:34 pm

I actually don't have a scum read on skarmory, and OkaPoka is just 'okay, WTF' for me. Can someone explain why you think OkaPoka is scum, other than the fact of RV?

Boonskiies · Post Post #234 (isolation #44) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:38 am

Welp, my Shinobi call was dead wrong.

Boonskiies · Post Post #236 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:36 am

it's only certain days, this week especially. After this week, it's fine. After today, actually.

Boonskiies · Post Post #245 (isolation #46) » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:01 pm

This confuses me so much.

Boonskiies · Post Post #251 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:44 am

I've only joined on with Oka and Bjc. I don't really get what you mean by everyone. Granted I semi started the Bjc, so I don't know of you can even count that. My Shinobi call was all on my own suspicion. And like Octopus said, I'm just playing badly.

Boonskiies · Post Post #257 (isolation #48) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:53 pm

In post 252, Drew-Sta wrote:
Boonkskiies, 234, 245 and 251. They almost seem like an attempt by you to highlight your mistake / poor play and therefore press for towncred. You've emphasised this - three times to me is emphasis although that's just me and can discuss this in a very public way. What are peoples thoughts on this? Boon?

I was like dead certain Shinboi was scum, and I came out looking scummy when I was wrong. My OkaPoka vote was policy lynch, lack of suspicion on anyone else. And for Bjc, I won't let a hammer happen on that, I just find him obnoxious. And that's coming from me. Other than that, I have no suspicions, as I never thought that ILF was scummy, despite Shinobi leaning towards her being town. My read on ILF is completely town now.

Boonskiies · Post Post #259 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:58 pm

Not 100%. I'm not 100% about anyone really. Completely town read is just me not sensing any scumminess.

Boonskiies · Post Post #264 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Only thought ILF was scum as a scumbuddy through Shinobi, as I stated. If you don't want to pay attention to everything I say, go for it. Lynch a vanilla. I said despite Shinobi leaning towards her, but you failed to recognize that part of the sentence. My only suspicion on her was THROUGH Shinobi. If it was just her alone, i'll say it again. I NEVER THOUGHT THAT ILF WAS SCUMMY! KEY WORDS: SCUMMY!!

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I have never once said I thought she was scum besides the possibility of her being scumbuddies with Shinobi. Never have I EVER thought of her being scum WITHOUT Shinobi being scum. I had said it wouldn't surprise me if she was scum. Pay the hell attention.

Boonskiies · Post Post #266 (isolation #51) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:23 pm

Okay.

Boonskiies · Post Post #267 (isolation #52) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:08 pm

I said I believed she was scum, but not playing scummy. Never did i think she was scummy. people keep assuming. And Idfc if i was asked for a read on skarmory, i gave one anyways. And my bjc vote was a policy lynching because i found him obnoxious. just like i'm being right now, but with less words. so policy lynch me. go for it. You'll be disappointed on the result.

Boonskiies · Post Post #269 (isolation #53) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:23 pm

Could be a ploy, really. Now you don't know whether or not to keep questioning, vote me, or leave me be.

Boonskiies · Post Post #271 (isolation #54) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:34 pm

I'm waiting for someone else to post, and possibly get a reaction.

Boonskiies · Post Post #273 (isolation #55) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:12 pm

Again with the person not paying attention. Show me where I said ILF was acting scummy. NO WHERE. I thought Shinobi was acting scummy, and the way Shinobi was making it seem was he was trying to protect someone. If it wasn't for shinobi ILF wouldn't have been even in my posts at all. "NOT BEING SCUMMY" yet me still potentially thinking that someone else is scum IS completely different. And people are going to go ahead and be ignorant and end up lynching a town member for the second day in a row. From my reads now, Grib is town, and Fat Tony just spiked onto my list for anticipating a giant bandwagon on to me, and he most likely hoped he can get on it without seeming scummy. Go ahead, lynch me. Will regret it afterwards. I'm vanilla.

Boonskiies · Post Post #274 (isolation #56) » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:31 pm

In post 272, Fat_Tony wrote:Ugh. VOTE: Boonskiies

Sorry but there's no way I can let you live if your defence for that is a semantic argument that "being scummy" and "thinking they are scum" are not the same thing. Semantics are exactly what I'd expect a scum player to resort to. Besides nothing else is happening so wagons roll.

BASICALLY, what I am saying isn't a 'oh, i meant it this way!!' kind of thing. I literally didn't say those words. So using the semantics argument against me is null.

Boonskiies · Post Post #284 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:11 am

In post 277, Fat_Tony wrote:
In post 274, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 272, Fat_Tony wrote:Ugh. VOTE: Boonskiies

Sorry but there's no way I can let you live if your defence for that is a semantic argument that "being scummy" and "thinking they are scum" are not the same thing. Semantics are exactly what I'd expect a scum player to resort to. Besides nothing else is happening so wagons roll.
BASICALLY, what I am saying isn't a 'oh, i meant it this way!!' kind of thing. I literally didn't say those words. So using the semantics argument against me is null.

Boonskiies 59 wrote: I believe ILF and Shinobi are scum.
YOU SAID THESE WORDS.

God fucking damn. How many times do I have to say? I can think people are scum without thinking they're scummy. Now I'm thinking Fat/Octopus are scum buddies for lack of paying attention to what people are actually saying, and just wanting the lynch. Puts me at L-1. Pfft.

Boonskiies · Post Post #288 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:33 am

anything to get the scum interest off your back, eh? ^ go for it. lynch me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #289 (isolation #59) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:33 am

I'm vanilla. Nothing more I can say.

Boonskiies · Post Post #290 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:41 am

In post 287, theelkspeaks wrote:Tattletales, willing to comment on your predecessor's play?

Boonskiies consistent "I said people were scum but not scummy" reads as patent prevarication to me, and I fully support boon's lynch happening.

In post 286, Fat_Tony wrote:I fail to see how you don't see that that is a semantic argument. I guess we are just not going to agree on this.

We're not going to agree because you are failing to see that it ISN'T an argument based on the meaning of what I said. It's an argument on what I LITERALLY said. You are creating a different word pairing than what I said. scummy doesn't mean scum. scum doesn't mean scummy. I act scummy in all my town games. THAT DOESN'T

MEAN

I AM TOWN. damn...

Lynching me today is almost guaranteeing a town loss this game.

Boonskiies · Post Post #291 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:41 am

I worded that differently. I'd even hammer myself there. But I am vanilla.

Boonskiies · Post Post #292 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:43 am

I'm literally laughing out loud right now, because I made a slip up into scum, even though I am town. Alright, just lynch me. But be forewarned I am actually vanilla. And I didn't have to point that out.

Boonskiies · Post Post #294 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:09 am

I also said "DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AM TOWN" when I meant to say "DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AM SCUM". slip up. going to be awkward when I flip town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #298 (isolation #64) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:08 pm

If I get lynched today, and flip town, might I add, scum will get another kill in the night, and there's either a Vig or an SK in this game, as two people died in the night last night. I die, I flip town. Then scum kills a town member. that leaves the vote count 3 scum, 4 town. BUT WAIT!!!!!!! There's another night kill happening. If that last night kill goes wrong, that's 3 scum, to 3 town, and game over.

Boonskiies · Post Post #300 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:41 pm

Fat Tony and Bjc are my scum reads. If I was scum, I would have tried to make a wagon on one of my scum brethren to try and get a lynch on them, and then it would seemingly clear my name. I even have done that in one of my most recent games.

Boonskiies · Post Post #303 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:31 pm

I've said before. Bjc using his trollness to his advantage, fat tony just using any little excuse.

Boonskiies · Post Post #306 (isolation #67) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:01 pm

Either that or greatest scum play ever. ^ No one wants to lynch because of it. I am like my favorite flavor of milkshake: vanilla.

Boonskiies · Post Post #310 (isolation #68) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:23 pm

Tattle might be onto something actually. I hadn't even thought about who was shinobi's killer.

Boonskiies · Post Post #313 (isolation #69) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:49 pm

VOTE: massive

Boonskiies · Post Post #315 (isolation #70) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:55 pm

Hahaha. If I get to L-1, bjc is going to hammer me so hard.

Boonskiies · Post Post #316 (isolation #71) » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:56 pm

Grib has that second vote he could easily put on me. Not so sure I'm scum now, are you boys and girls?!!?!?!!?

Boonskiies · Post Post #354 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:31 am

I'm town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #358 (isolation #73) » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:33 am

In post 355, Octopus wrote:I
knew
there was something else bothering me about this post...

In post 298, Boonskiies wrote:If I get lynched today, and flip town, might I add, scum will get another kill in the night, and there's either a Vig or an SK in this game, as two people died in the night last night. I die, I flip town. Then scum kills a town member. that leaves the vote count 3 scum, 4 town. BUT WAIT!!!!!!! There's another night kill happening. If that last night kill goes wrong, that's 3 scum, to 3 town, and game over.
Why the certainty that there are three scum in the game Boon?
It's not a certainty in an 11 player game,
AND
with a vig (ok maybe) or SK (absolutely no way).

Thought there were 13 and assumed.

But I'm town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #365 (isolation #74) » Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:55 pm

Am not scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #367 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:56 pm

I'm positive. Unless I forgot what my role was...

Boonskiies · Post Post #369 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:22 pm

And that's how you get yourself away from a near L-1 situation, folks.

Boonskiies · Post Post #373 (isolation #77) » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:01 am

In post 371, Grib wrote:
In post 369, Boonskiies wrote:And that's how you get yourself away from a near L-1 situation, folks.
Please stop making us want to kill you if you actually are town.

I'm trying to get you guys to stop! How many times must I say, "I'm town!!!!" Completely vanilla.

Boonskiies · Post Post #383 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:43 am

I'm just an annoying town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #392 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:48 pm

In post 385, theelkspeaks wrote:Boonskiies, rather than insist that you're town, tell us who IS scum.

How should I know who's scum? All I know is I'm like the taste of the most common extract. Vanilla.

Boonskiies · Post Post #398 (isolation #80) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:21 am

Unless elk is scum. ^

Boonskiies · Post Post #412 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:13 am

UNVOTE: massive

Boonskiies · Post Post #413 (isolation #82) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:17 am

Well, I'm back on L-1 actually. Hammer me away. Now I have a bad feeling that Massive is also town, and a scum is trying to get a double lynch on two townies this day. My bet would probably be on Tony and Elk. Octopus is pretty town to me; he's scum hunting hard, but elk really hasn't done much rather than try and lynch the easiest target.

Boonskiies · Post Post #414 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:28 am

The fact that people are so sure to double lynch both Massive and myself today should prove that there is some scum behind it. Who actually believes that both of us are actually scum. We were voting against each other earlier, and unless you think we were busing each other, it makes no sense. Plus, at the time of our debates, it didn't really make sense to bus. I AM NOT SCUM. Drew-Sta, Fat tony, and/or Elk, one of them at least is scum trying to catch the easiest bandwagon. AND WAIT!!!!! Remember when I was assuming that there were 3 scum in this game? It's not a certainty that 3 scum are in an 11 person game. Is 3 scum too many for an 11 person game, and there is probably most likely only two? Give me another day to try and prove that I am town. Granted, I think Fat_Tony is scum, if only for the mix between his and KittyMo's play before him. He's just slid right under the radar since he's got here, and Kitty was also seen as scummy-ish beforehand. Why should that slot be switched up a bit just because the replacement was able to act like he was town?

Boonskiies · Post Post #438 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:03 pm

I'll put my vote back up!
EAT MY VOTE, SCUM!!!

VOTE: Massive

Boonskiies · Post Post #440 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:26 pm

I'm not scum. After the night, if I don't get killed in the night, which I shouldn't, I shall be able to prove hopefully.

Boonskiies · Post Post #443 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:36 pm

I've already claimed VT. Depending on what happens in the night, I'll be able to figure out who's scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #473 (isolation #87) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:57 am

I'll post tomorrow. Sorry, been busy.

Boonskiies · Post Post #478 (isolation #88) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:40 pm

Mm....I'm town. I got nothing as of this moment. But being unable to defend myself doesn't mean I'm scum! I had legitimately tried scum hunting early in the game, and I haven't really gotten many reads throughout this game. I believe there was scum on the massive lynch, so I shall ISO them to try and figure out which of them are scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #479 (isolation #89) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:44 pm

Octopus is my #1 scum read. I had him pretty much set as town, as he was obviously 'scum hunting', but once he got here, he immediately targeted the two easiest people to try and get a bandwagon on. And Grib was obv town....it would be way unbalanced to give scum a double vote, and the fact that he didn't even take major abuse to the role, like putting both votes on one person, should show he was obvtown. Octopus is convinced he was not obvtown. Grib was very hesitant about the double lynch happening, way too much if he was scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #486 (isolation #90) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:14 pm

For some reason i expected Grib to live as some kind of strategic move, but it only made sense in my head.

Actually, I really feel Octopus is scum now. He keeps on bringing up the implied fact of a certain number of scum. He used it against me as well.

Elk - eh, scum hunting, i believe. I don't personally find him suspicious.
bjc - meh, i think he is actually controlling this game. I could probably make a case for being either. Which is a reason I am leaning more towards scum.
tattletale - Town. I believe her scum huntingness, and after the whole Shinobi thing, I have no reason to suspect that slot as scum.
Drew - haven't paid much attention to him, to be completely honest. he could be staying under the radar and posting just enough so you don't pay attention to him.
Octopus - already been said.
Tony - uhm....I don't know on this one.

I would totally bus my scum out and make a hard case for their lynch if I was scum...just saying.

Boonskiies · Post Post #488 (isolation #91) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:02 pm

it only made sense in my head when i was under pressure believing you guys were about to lynch a townie.

Boonskiies · Post Post #489 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:07 pm

Guys, I promise I'm town. How many scum are usually in this size of a game? two or three? I want to say three, plus the SK, most likely for balance, and if that's the case we really can't mislynch or I believe we lose. So for serious now, DO NOT LYNCH ME. I AM VANILLA.

Boonskiies · Post Post #491 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:33 pm

I don't see any reason for him to false claim. What does everyone else think? Saving himself for one more turn or legit? I mean, he could have easily just went for a lynch at me, and saved himself. He's a sure NK now.

Boonskiies · Post Post #493 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:05 pm

I didn't say I turned. My vote is still on him. I'm just posting observations. He has to prove he's not just false claiming.

Boonskiies · Post Post #501 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:11 am

Eh, tattle would be a fine investigation really. Especially if he thought my lynch was a sure thing, so let's not dwell on that.

Boonskiies · Post Post #504 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:37 am

I did not claim guilty, wtf? I've claimed the opposite. Multiple times...and if I was claimed guilty, why are you more inclined to lynch Tattle than me? Explain your logic.

Boonskiies · Post Post #506 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:00 am

Oh, okay. But still, elk? Do I really need to defend myself anymore? I'm town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #507 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:08 am

In post 481, Octopus wrote:And that worked out well for town, didn't it? Also there is a lot of dodgy logic on display in Grib's posts, including, not unlike yours, the idea that disagreeing with something makes you scum.

Is that really the best you can come up with?

Can everyone answer this question please.

How many scum do you think there are in this game?

It's important. If the general consensus is that there are three then we lynch Tattletale today, if not then we can lynch her tomorow, and see if we can find her scumbuddy today.

Actually, I think I believe Octopus. He eased up on me way too easily toDay. Sure, he brought it up, but he also tried subtly bring Tattletale into question. I don't necessarily believe that he had put much thought into Tattletale being scum before this, and he really tried to get some discussion on it, but no one was looking into it. I don't believe he wanted to claim quite yet, but he did. And of all things to claim, why would he claim JOAT? That's a totally risky move.

VOTE: Tattletale

Boonskiies · Post Post #510 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:46 pm

Unvote

I realized that the JOAT is the opposite of risky after I posted. I wanted to see your reaction before posting anything else. Cop claim is far riskier, due to the possibility of having a cop. Alright, I want to hear from Bjc on this subject.

PEdit: Well...hi there...

Boonskiies · Post Post #512 (isolation #100) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:03 pm

I support #2.

Boonskiies · Post Post #513 (isolation #101) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:04 pm

Or option #4, where just Octopus is mafia. UNLESS they're both mafia.

Boonskiies · Post Post #515 (isolation #102) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:22 pm

Right. Fool = no no. I'm learning from Bjc.

Boonskiies · Post Post #520 (isolation #103) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:25 pm

Okay, I'm in the Octopus/Drew scum buddies now.

Boonskiies · Post Post #523 (isolation #104) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:49 pm

Drew, you've been on me all game, haha. Even before I was deemed as scummy.

Boonskiies · Post Post #524 (isolation #105) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:49 pm

Sure, I'll hammer!

VOTE: Octopus

Boonskiies · Post Post #528 (isolation #106) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:02 pm

You're overthinking, Drew. ^

Boonskiies · Post Post #531 (isolation #107) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:47 pm

I fucked up.

VOTE: Tattletale

Confirmed scum, guys...

Boonskiies · Post Post #537 (isolation #108) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:01 pm

If you are town DO NOT VOTE!!!!! We need to rationalize this.

Boonskiies · Post Post #538 (isolation #109) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:09 pm

I would like to point out my hammer on Octopus. There would have been no reason for me to do that as scum. If there were 3 scum, it would have made sense, but since there turned out to be only 2, it was just a bad play of a town member. Now, I'd like to point out the fact that Drew has not really ever voted on anyone other than me besides the current wagon. He had also previously voted Elk, and since elk was neighborizer, it means he wasn't chosen by Elk to join the neighborhood. I also believe he tried to bus ILF to make him potentially get town cred, but in doing so, it appeared as if he was semi-coaching ILF. And, ILF being replaced by Tattletale, ended up being scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #539 (isolation #110) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:10 pm

Also, he seems to be over acting on all the little possibilities and effects that have happened. "Tattletale has died" Drew - "OH NO!! WHT HE BE SCUM? I HAS NO IDEA!!!"

So yes, I am leaning towards Drew being scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #543 (isolation #111) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:30 pm

I plan on doing this to Bjc as well.

In post 52, Drew-Sta wrote:
In post 50, Formerfish wrote:
Vote Count 1.2

I Love Fairies
- bjc, Drew-Sta, theelkspeaks (L-4)

Drew-Sta
-
OkaPoka, Grib, Grib (L-4)

KittyMo- Nul, Boonskiies (L-5)
theelksspeaks- shinyskarmory, massive (L-5)
bjc- Shinobi (L-6)

Not Voting: I Love Fairies, KittyMo

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes for a lynch
(expired on 2014-07-03 00:22:00)

@Mod - Can you confirm that is correct for me?

It is correct.

Nothing major, but I do believe the fact he was so confused by it and needed mod confirmation because it scared him. Scum would have more of a problem with a double voter than town.

In post 55, Drew-Sta wrote:
In post 53, I Love Fairies wrote:How the hell did you miss when I explained why? Where I explained why is literally in a nested quote in your post.

How the living fuck does that make my initial vote seem all the more suspicious?

Like, fuck each and every single one of you if you're going to vote me for not voting, and then proceed to vote me for voting. That's fucking bullshit. All of you guys put me in an impossible situation where I did nothing wrong, but you all vote me anyways. I'm fucking damned if I don't, damned if I do, and that's not fair. Putting people in unfair situations for no reason is scummy as shit.

My vote was justified, and it was ASKED FOR. If people didn't ask me to vote, I probably wouldn't have, because I don't feel very strongly about anyone in this game yet, given that it's still only like 2 days in.

1. I didn't ask you to vote for someone.
2. I think the reasons you did vote, and who you voted for, were opportunistic.
3. I agree we, as a group, have boxed you into a situation.

On that 3rd point I am very worried.

UNVOTE: ILF as I now feel like I've jumped the gun in a paranoid fashion.

Gah.

Okay, why take off the vote here? ILF/Tattletale ended up being scum, and you didn't have a strong reasoning to take the vote off, other than being scum buddies with her and not wanting her wagon to be any bigger.

In post 76, Drew-Sta wrote:So much hangover. Much pain. Wow...

In post 90, Drew-Sta wrote:I'm massively hungover. Still trying to work out where my pants went. I will post something solid in a few hours as I've still been reading and have a few thoughts and reads.

V/LA posting and trying not to bring any scummy attention to yourself, but don't want to be seen as a lurker?

In post 293, Drew-Sta wrote:
Sure would like elk, Drew, ILF to check in.

I checked in yesterday / your last night. I only get a couple of chances a day to check in.

Boons is AtE'ing all over the shop. Reads like a mafia caught out. More in a few hours.

In post 299, Drew-Sta wrote:You're doing everything to prevent yourself getting lynched (common to both mafia and town) yet you're doing nothing to show who you feel is mafia (as I have indicated back in 252) which is both flailing and a mafia-tell in most peoples books.

The ATE / ATF is making your flailing quite frantic here Boons. You must understand that how you are presenting is extremely neg town and appears like you're a mafia who has been caught out. 294 could be an honest mistake (referencing a previous post) but honestly - it simply reads like a mafia slip and the ATE you're putting out in 298 makes me feel you are mafia.

My only issue is this seems almost too obvious (which is why I'm withholding vote right now). I get mafia make mistakes, but we as town we cannot afford to make another. Maybe I'm double guessing myself here?

Thoughts? I'd really like to see a few more people weigh in on this.

In post 447, Drew-Sta wrote:Ok, so let me get this straight:

Boon
- his behaviour is mafia-like, the distancing from the Shinobi death being my big belief in his tell as mafia combined with his ongoing lack of defence against anyone putting information in front of him (which seems like he's just given up on defending himself as he knows he's found out), and I believe he is mafia.

massive
- confirming himself as an SK (does that make there two factions in this game or is he part of mafia? On this I'm a bit clueless as I'm still getting familiar with how MafiaScum games tend to operate), which makes him also scum.

The Boon read I'm confident on, but from what I've just read over the last few pages the massive bit is what I'm seeking clarity on. Have I summed this up right?

BTW, if this is true, well played Grib / others for working it out as I had massive pegged as town.

In post 476, Drew-Sta wrote:We can't do much til you post Boon. I still believe you're mafia.

What happened? Why aren't you confident now? Because you know who scum really is and isn't?

In post 525, Drew-Sta wrote:Woah. Did you just hammer without letting Octopus have a right of reply?!

Oh Boon, you did play us, didn't you... I can't believe it.

Fuck.

In post 526, Drew-Sta wrote:
In post 523, Boonskiies wrote:Drew, you've been on me all game, haha.
Even before I was deemed as scummy.

Argh! You
are
mafia, aren't you! Argh!!!

These reactions don't seem genuine. It seems like he's forcing them. Especially the italics on the 'are'.

In post 532, Drew-Sta wrote:Bussing your buddy now, Boon?

Clearly Octo was right. Tattertale is mafia.

The deal is, who is the other member? Boon or bjc? We need to work that out for tomorrow.

VOTE: Tattertale

And clearly he was. Stating the obvious? Why do you need to figure it out? Remember when you were sooooo confident I was scum?

Boonskiies · Post Post #545 (isolation #112) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:41 pm

In post 16, bjc wrote:
vote: I love fairies

In post 305, bjc wrote:Dude I didn't even know I signed up for this game so I figured I would make myself the lowest-hanging fruit of all time, and you guys outed yourselves. Sorry you can't seem to play well as scum.

I'm a hammer tool for the town, if you don't want me hammering then don't put people to L-1. If that bothers you as scum then try to night kill me.

In post 311, bjc wrote:
In post 308, Tattletale wrote:So has no one noticed that Shinobi obviously died because he targeted scum? Why has this not been a topic of discussion?

Judging by his ISO, I think it's most likely massive.

VOTE: massive

bjc also needs to claim NOW after that #YOLO hammer. I do not abide soft claims.

Okay. I'm a VT.

I was honestly hoping to get NK'd last night but I guess they didn't believe my hint, haha.

Well, getting killed in this game early obviously didn't happen for you..

In post 324, bjc wrote:I'm just saying though that I'm auto-hammering when someone gets to L-1 and I'm around. Realize that by putting someone to L-1 you're defacto hammering..

In post 359, bjc wrote:Pretty much everyone agrees I'm dangerous, but it seems a majority of players find me to be town.

There's nothing wrong with my play. If you don't want me to hammer
then don't put them to L-1
.

IF I make it to LyLo or MyLo I will retract my hammer status as to not lose the game for you guys, lol. I'm also open to sharing my thoughts!

I don't know how I feel about elk trying to throw crap my way. Could he be scum catching on to the fact that most of the players are town reading me (even if they don't want to), therefore feeling like it's better to cast doubt on my slot (so that they don't have to "waste" a night kill on me)?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

I like this post from him; it makes him seem town, and it also keeps too many people from voting all at once. Possibility he was judging reactions and who would put them to L-1, because that's worse than hammering at this point.

In post 402, bjc wrote:
unvote;

In post 425, bjc wrote:Wow lol Boon if you're a townie then you should WANT the SK to die. Stop being such a shit.

In post 509, bjc wrote:Lynch the claimed JOAT, that's a super shitty fake claim and he's obviously scum from my POV based on his posts/wording/tone.

vote: Octopus

for being scum. Tattletale already pointed it out, but when you get a guilty...

In post 540, bjc wrote:Me too but my goodness why the fuck would you withhold a ficking guilty? That was a first for me.

Possibility of him not wanting to get NK'd and maybe outting them in game. That's why.

In post 518, bjc wrote:Octo should be an auto-lynch. Seriously.

then we shuffle through Elk/Drew's reactions to it, but I'm going to go ahead and say Boon is most likely town. Meaning we can look at the ongoing and previous pushes that went his way.

Well, Drew's been all over me ALL game, but elk was too. Why do you think I am most likely town?

Boonskiies · Post Post #548 (isolation #113) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:55 pm

All in all, from my playstyle, I would be suspicious of myself as well. I'm troll-like, but it does save me from NK's. Bjc was an earlier scum read of mine, and Drew, you were never a scum read for me until the day Octopus got lynched.

Bjc thinks I was obviously town; Drew was super confident I was scum.

Why aren't you as confident that I am scum now, Drew?

Now, I have a few theories:

Drew is scum, he thought I would be an easy wagon so he hopped on me. Knows Octopus isn't lying about his claim, so he tried to make it seem like he genuinely cares that he got lynched. After Tattletale got lynched, he chose to kill Elk. I believe he thinks that Bjc and I are both more likely to make a rash judgement call and vote on with him, making him safer than elk who had rarely posted. ALSO, Bjc had posted that he was pretty sure I was town, so by keeping Bjc alive, it would seem like I was scum trying to keep him alive so that he could buddy up with me to pick off Drew. That being a little obvious, Bjc would then turn his attention to me and vote me.

_________

Bjc is scum. He's been an obvious troll throughout the game, including hammering. He went and attacked Octopus' claim because Tattletale was found guilty. That being his scum buddy, he wanted scum to live another day to get another NK. He killed elk because my suspicion was on Drew, so he thinks that he could get me to vote Drew. Bjc claims that he thinks I am town, possibly for me to trust him more and go along with him to kill Drew.

That's where I stand.

Boonskiies · Post Post #549 (isolation #114) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:57 pm

In post 16, bjc wrote:
vote: I love fairies

Early game bussing is legit....

Did you just sign your own death warrant?

Boonskiies · Post Post #552 (isolation #115) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:00 pm

The bussing statement doesn't have me convinced. You voted for her first, obviously an RVS, but because of that you most likely didn't expect a wagon to follow.

Boonskiies · Post Post #553 (isolation #116) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:02 pm

I am leaning Drew still though, Bjc. I want to wait for Drew to be able to sit down and chat though before I make my decision.

Boonskiies · Post Post #556 (isolation #117) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:03 pm

And Bjc, your post #551 has me pretty convinced.

Boonskiies · Post Post #557 (isolation #118) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:04 pm

And aaah....he voted....

Boonskiies · Post Post #558 (isolation #119) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:04 pm

If Bjc is scum, we lose....

Boonskiies · Post Post #560 (isolation #120) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:05 pm

In post 554, Drew-Sta wrote:I can't believe you're going to buy Boon's story bjc.

The hammer on Octopus is a dead giveaway. He's at L-1 for an age, gives no analysis. Now at LyLo he concocts some analysis, siding with you and pointing the finger at me and you believe him?

/le sigh.

If anything, the fact he's holding off vote identifies he's being opportunistic.

I'm at least going to go with my gut. VOTE: Boon

/cue AtE claim from Boon.

I have theorized just as much on Bjc as well as you, so I don't get your defense.

Boonskiies · Post Post #563 (isolation #121) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:06 pm

Oh dear....

Boonskiies · Post Post #567 (isolation #122) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:08 pm

You see, this situation makes it seem like Bjc is definitely town now. Granted he could have won by simply voting me if he's scum, but he might think it more amusing if he got me to vote Drew.

Boonskiies · Post Post #568 (isolation #123) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:08 pm

Please retract your vote Drew....

Boonskiies · Post Post #572 (isolation #124) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:11 pm

VOTE: Drew

Bjc...if you are scum. You are my idol....

Boonskiies · Post Post #576 (isolation #125) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:12 pm

very good game...and I am so full of emotions right now.

Boonskiies · Post Post #577 (isolation #126) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:13 pm

Bjc, you're still my idol on this site...

Boonskiies · Post Post #580 (isolation #127) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:15 pm

Who would have thought the final two remaining in this game would have been Bjc and myself...?

Boonskiies · Post Post #583 (isolation #128) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:21 pm

I'm really surprised I didn't get lynched a few days ago. Massive slipping saved my life so much....

Boonskiies · Post Post #585 (isolation #129) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:23 pm

Yeah. i was for sure getting lynched that day, but he slipped. And then octopus came did his thing.

Boonskiies · Post Post #587 (isolation #130) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:18 pm

Well, I was obv town.

Boonskiies · Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:01 am

@Kitty - after my hammer i was also pretty certain it was Drew.

I hammered Octopus fast because at that point I pretty much figured it was going to be down to Drew, bjc, and I and all end there.

I was scummy as hell, the fact that I wasn't getting lynched...come on now.