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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:37 pm

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VOTE: Not_Mafia
Not_Werewolf? Didn't think so.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:56 pm

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This is really dumb
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Post Post #152 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:13 am

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In post 112, Wickedestjr wrote:I don't like the snscompt bandwagon. I have a town read on him based on his reactions to the pressure. There was nothing suspicious about his reinoe vote and I can relate to his statement that he gets lynched often as town but doesn't as scum (if it's true). Given that I'm also someone that is frequently mislynched as town, I think his response to votes is similar and genuine. While I side with snscompt here, I will admit that his vote for reinoe was bad - if he self hammers why can't you see him self voting in RVS? People do it all the time and I would say self hammering is stranger than RVS self voting. The vote is bad, but snscompt isn't suspicious.

I like this post. My thoughts. snscompt's reaction seems very genuine to me. I don't see what's so scummy about one "bad vote". The wagon is silly.
I don't like bjc's playing so far. Seems like just a bunch of contentless reaction tests. Having only two posts in this game so far myself, I'm no one to be calling people out on their activity. But man, get some more content in. I should note that this isn't necessarily a scum-tell, I just don't like his play.

bjc wrote:Votes need to be on:
-bins
-shaded
-paschendale or whatever

Those are where votes need to be right now. Preferably bins or pasch.


I don't see any of these... care to explain?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:07 pm

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I confess I have been lurking. I'm really not feeling reading through all the shit of the last few pages. I'll force myself.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:08 pm

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Real quick from this page alone...

In post 210, snscompt1 wrote:Hm. Fuzzy isn't a werewolf unless he's playing dumb. Fuzzy, there are two werewolves and three mafia in this game..

This means absolutely nothing.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:19 pm

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Because we have nothing else to go on. In order of likeliness in my opinion...
- He simply worded it strangely. (null)
- He slipped in his writing/mistyped/thought wrong. (null)
- He is trying to look less scummy (bad scum)
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Post Post #221 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:19 pm

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In post 216, fuzzybutternut wrote:Well, I meant that we can possibly catch scum and a werewolf today. I find it very unlikely that we will find all 3 scum and both werewolves in one day, so I just decided to focus on one and one.


Oh. Or this. Missed this one.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:40 pm

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but ... wha?
VOTE: Paschendale
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Post Post #241 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:41 am

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In post 240, fuzzybutternut wrote:If I'm reading this right, that puts Pasch at L-2?
Pasch, you got some 'splanin to do.

I'm going to
UNVOTE:
as much as I hate to admit it, I think Maru is actually town.
Stupid, yes, but town nonetheless.

VOTE: The Bulge
I like this more.
>admits to lurking
>says he'll post more
>comes back with an explanatory post followed by a vote on the current wagon

Yeah...totes not town.
moar votes here please.

When did I say I had re-read? My vote may change after reading, but I wanted it on Pasch for now.

When I voted, Pasch had two votes on him. The big wagon happened after I voted, if you'll kindly look up a few posts.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:02 am

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Why am I the mindless sheep? Look at the three posts below mine.
My reason was his post.
Sorry I misread. I thought you were assuming I had reread and come up with no more than that.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:25 am

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In post 244, Not_Mafia wrote:You added nothing to what BJC said, there's no way you can characterize your post as any better than Shaded's and SNS's

So I'm thinking Pasch and Bulge are on opposite scum teams

Oh Not_Mafia, you seem to have forgotten to mention your own little post. I suppose yours is alright then?
I never said mine was "any better". I'm simply wondering why they're not being targeted as sheep and I am.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:41 am

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In post 247, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't mention my post as being exactly the same as the others no

I think Fuzzy summed things up quite well

In post 240, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: The Bulge
I like this more.
>admits to lurking
>says he'll post more
>comes back with an explanatory post followed by a vote on the current wagon

Ooou the suspense is killing me. Alright I'll bite. Why is your post different? Because you had an additional reason? Because you made the effort to quote one more post than the rest of us?
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Post Post #250 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:57 am

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Because I think that's a bullshit reason and I was hoping you had something better.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #254 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:18 am

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In post 253, Bins wrote:VOTE: bulge

That's not how you should be reacting to ONE vote on you.

It's not a reaction to the vote. I'm not targeting fuzzy. In fact, he seems town to me.
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Post Post #255 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:29 am

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In post 244, Not_Mafia wrote:You added nothing to what BJC said, there's no way you can characterize your post as any better than Shaded's and SNS's

So I'm thinking Pasch and Bulge are on opposite scum teams

You're the one who put them all in one boat. And I'm not dismissing fuzzy's read, i responded to it already. Pay attention.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:34 am

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The three posts below me voted Pasch. This is fact, and it's all I was saying there.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:38 am

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Read: why am I the
only
mindless sheep.
All that's different about mine is that I was first. I didn't jump on a massive wagon.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:06 am

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:(

What information is gained from my town-flip?
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Post Post #277 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:08 am

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The thing that bothers me most about this game is that eloquent players win. Because I stumbled in my argument, that is somehow a scum-tell, and now Not_Mafia gets off scot-free and I am mislynched.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:01 pm

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Twas a good game for scum.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:04 pm

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In post 286, snscompt1 wrote:
In post 282, Bins wrote:He has one. He was scum in that one and replaced in on like iirc the last day.

Yeah but do you know his alt :wink:

LOL I was 14
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Post Post #288 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:05 pm

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I can't stop you, but like... I cringe every time.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:09 pm

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noooooo
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Post Post #293 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:11 pm

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In post 292, reinoe wrote:
In post 289, snscompt1 wrote:Pfft. Excuses.

I don't research meta on people. Ain't got time for dat.

Phone posting.

This is why you're scum. Your claim that I would never self-vote as town was a baseless fabrication. I really don't know what more I can do to convince people.

ouf. I can't tell if this is a really clever slip or just an exploitable coincidence.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:15 pm

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In post 294, snscompt1 wrote:
In post 292, reinoe wrote:
In post 289, snscompt1 wrote:Pfft. Excuses.

I don't research meta on people. Ain't got time for dat.

Phone posting.

This is why you're scum. Your claim that I would never self-vote as town was a baseless fabrication. I really don't know what more I can do to convince people.


Lol IVE PLAYED WITH YOU. I dont do research meta. Doesnt mean I dont use meta. Heraderp. I am going to suggest you stop tunneling and just assume Im scum. Go after the other four for now since no one agrees with you.

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Post Post #315 (isolation #25) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:59 am

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God dammit. Nothing I say will get me out of this, I suppose.

One question though. I still don't understand why my flip gets the most info? Wouldn't Pasch's flip (you know, the massive wagon...) give the most info to analyze?
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Post Post #319 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:05 am

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In post 317, fuzzybutternut wrote:Pasch is town. I can almost guarantee it. You, on the other hand, I believe are scum. So...no. Not really. The thing about this setup is that EVERYONE has to scum hunt to play to their win condition. Werewolves have to find and eliminate mafia in order to win. And vice versa. On day one, it doesn't matter who is on what wagon.

I CAN guarantee that I'm town. If you think my lynch gives the most information, fine. But I hope you're looking at all the possibilities and preparing to analyze a town flip. I'm clearly not the best at arguing or putting my thoughts into words, so nothing I say will stop this.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #27) » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:03 am

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Sorry, could have sworn I had posted here recently.
Tonight is my last night of homework so I proooomise to be more active.
Catch-up post/reads later tonight or tomorrow
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Post Post #447 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:28 am

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Marathon weekend too addicting.

Sorrysorrysorry I will read this and answer questions
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Post Post #501 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:10 pm

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Shit I keep putting this off.

I realize my N_M vote is useless right now. I'm not sure how town-motivated the Titus wagon is, but it doesn't look like the lynch is going anywhere else today and a No Lynch would be unfortunate.

I'll L-1 and catch up during Night.

VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #537 (isolation #30) » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 511, fuzzybutternut wrote:Reinoe? Interesting..

PR hunting, no doubt.

Or framing?

Thoughts on the NK everyone?

Nightkill analysis is crucial, obviously. Maybe not soooo much at this point, but whatever. To each his own. But this post looks awkward to me. Noting.

In post 525, Desperado wrote:My
naked
vote contains more content than .

Did you, like, do any of that overnight or what? Who is scum?

Ok cool, I get that you're making a point and calling out N_M. But you still need to explain the vote.

In post 527, Paschendale wrote:Despite them being by my scumreads, those last votes on Titus by Bulge and Bins didn't look very bussy. It's possible that the whole wagon was town.

@Mist: Can we get a final vote count for day 1?

Possible? Technically. But HIGHLY unlikely. I don't like this for some reason. Also noted.

In post 535, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 528, Not_Mafia wrote:Why did your mind jump to a whole town wagon instead of thinking they're wolves? And do you honestly think a whole town wagon d1 is realistic in a 7-3-2? That would literally mean scum is everyone off the wagon.


NM makes a good point here. The likelihood of the entire wagon being town is slim to none.
I'd expect a 1-1-4 scenario if anything.


Now then, in no way, shape, or form, is analyzing a NK something scum does in thread. What would be the point of that? Voting me for that just shows that you're looking for a lynch without foundation. Find a good reason to vote me and then I'll acknowledge it a little more.

I don't like this defense either. It's sounds like forced passiveness, like "hey yea vote me, but you better have a good reason for it!"

Holding my vote for now. I want more content to look at.

@fuzzy - You asked everyone else for their thoughts on the NK but never provided yours. Why do you think reinoe was killed?

@Pasch - 1) What makes you so sure mine and Bins' votes weren't bussing Titus?
2) Do you think it is plausible that as a pair of werewolves we coordinated the hammer together?

@Desp - You acknowledge your vote as naked, but make no effort to "dress" it and instead just use it as a shot against N_M. Care to enlighten us? And does the vote have anything to do with N_M (ie associative tells)?
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Post Post #549 (isolation #31) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:37 pm

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^ This.

Why is everybody talking like I'm confirmed ww? Like Unsight said, it's back to square one when I flip town. Sure, read me as werewolf, whatever. But go no further until the flip, because you're wasting your time and the town's time.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #32) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:38 pm

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Also can somebody remind me
why
I'm assumed to be werewolf? Like what's the case on me? I barely remember the first half of this game.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #33) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:55 am

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In post 571, Desperado wrote:More Bulge votes plz

In post 537, The Bulge wrote:@Desp - You acknowledge your vote as naked, but make no effort to "dress" it and instead just use it as a shot against N_M. Care to enlighten us? And does the vote have anything to do with N_M (ie associative tells)?

This is a serious question. I'm genuinely curious about that last part in particular.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:09 am

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In post 574, Desperado wrote:
In post 572, The Bulge wrote:This is a serious question. I'm genuinely curious about that last part in particular.


I don't scumhunt via associative tells on unflipped slots.

Ok. The first part of the question is important too.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:17 am

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In post 580, Wickedestjr wrote:Bulge, have you ever said you could 'guarantee' that you were town (or something along those lines) as town before (as Bulge or as your alt) ? Ever said it as scum - and if not, would you ever consider it?

I'd like Bulge to answer those questions. However, I can already say that I don't like Unsight's vote for him. His only reason is that Bulge said he could 'guarantee' that he was town, but that seems like a weak reason. Also, I disagree with his conclusion regarding Bulge/sns - I already town read sns, but if Bulge flips scum then I grow even more confident in the belief that sns is not in that same scum group.

I'll admit that I still haven't done the rereading/meta-checks I wanted to do. But now I promise that it is first on my mafiascum priority list. Getting to it now.

In post 581, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 577, Unsight wrote:The thing that doesn't sit well with me is . When he was nearing lynch, he said he could
guarantee
he was town. snscompt1 immediately took his vote elsewhere. snscompt1 could have been jumping off his buddy's wagon or he may have read that post the same way I just did--soft Town Seer claim. The problem with this? The Bulge is still alive. Night kill analysis is WIFOM and usually not worth the time it takes to type, but I think the wolves would have to be asleep at the wheel to not take that bait. Unless he's one of them.


Why would you point this out? Regardless of how obvious you found it, do you really think it's so unlikely the wolves didn't catch on to it that was worth potentially outing the seer?

Regardless Bulge needs to claim

That post is being misinterpreted and taken out of context. Reading over it alone, it does look like a Seer soft-claim. Whoops. :oops: But look at it in context of the post I was replying to. In , fuzzy says "Pasch is town. I can almost guarantee it." I replied in with "I CAN guarantee that I'm town." This was meant to contrast his "almost", because from my POV, I know myself to be town. Sorry if that was read the wrong way.
(Read: I am a VT, not a seer)


To answer your question, I guess it would be a good softclaim as town or even a soft fakeclaim as scum. But it's risky. If I were to use that as town, I would have to assume that scum doesn't pick up on it but town does, which is quite the assumption.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #36) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:43 pm

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In post 583, fuzzybutternut wrote:^I feel like you just threw up WIFOM in a bucket and tossed it everywhere.

Where is the WIFOM? I talked about town softclaims, not fakeclaims...
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Post Post #589 (isolation #37) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:58 am

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In post 575, The Bulge wrote:
In post 574, Desperado wrote:
In post 572, The Bulge wrote:This is a serious question. I'm genuinely curious about that last part in particular.


I don't scumhunt via associative tells on unflipped slots.

Ok. The first part of the question is important too.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:59 am

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What don't you like about it? I don't see anything you could possibly dislike, unless of course you don't believe me.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #39) » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:32 am

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In post 591, Desperado wrote:
In post 590, The Bulge wrote:unless of course you don't believe me.


dingdingding

Alright. So you think I was softclaiming seer, and now I'm going back on it?
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Post Post #607 (isolation #40) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:54 pm

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1) I never fucking softclaimed seer.
2) I have asked the same question at least 3 times with no answer from everyone.
Why am I werewolf.

3) Almost ALL of today's analysis has been "If The Bulge flips WW, then..." Alright, but there had better be a backup plan, because when I flip town this entire day will have been a waste with no information learned.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #41) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:22 pm

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VOTE: Desperado
Maybe this will catch your attention. Come give me a god damn explanation.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:27 am

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My laptop is having internet connection problems and I won't be able to fix it until much later, so I can't promise content until tomorrow. Looking over this page, Riddleton's 650 is complete bullshit and so is NM's 667.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:51 pm

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In post 682, Riddleton wrote:I do not see why you would vote Desperado otherwise. He has barely contributed.

You're answering your own question here.

NM's 667 is bullshit because he pretty much says "Everybody is saying The Bulge is WW, so why not vote him?"
This is exactly what I have been saying this whole time. THERE. IS. NO. CASE. AGAINST. ME.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:52 pm

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Sorry, should clarify. My previous post is in two parts that have nothing to do with each other.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:02 pm

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Now that I'm on my laptop...

I'll start by clarifying something you are all obviously too tunnel-minded to understand:
I never fucking claimed Seer.
The way Wicked explained it is correct. It was a god damn wording issue. If that is the basis of the case against me (hint: it is), then either scum is getting way too stubbornly opportunistic or this town is incompetent. I think the former is more likely.

In post 581, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 577, Unsight wrote:The thing that doesn't sit well with me is . When he was nearing lynch, he said he could
guarantee
he was town. snscompt1 immediately took his vote elsewhere. snscompt1 could have been jumping off his buddy's wagon or he may have read that post the same way I just did--soft Town Seer claim. The problem with this? The Bulge is still alive. Night kill analysis is WIFOM and usually not worth the time it takes to type, but I think the wolves would have to be asleep at the wheel to not take that bait. Unless he's one of them.


Why would you point this out? Regardless of how obvious you found it, do you really think it's so unlikely the wolves didn't catch on to it that was worth potentially outing the seer?

Regardless Bulge needs to claim

What the fuck is this shit and why did nobody pick up on it? First of all, I don't buy the "I caught the soft-claim but didn't want to point it out to scum" bullshit. Second of all, what you say later completely contradicts yourself.

"How dare you draw attention to our soft-claimed seer! Shame on you! ... By the way, potential seer, you should definitely claim now, yea."
In post 647, Not_Mafia wrote:I'll let Unsight respond but that case isn't as impressive as it seems to look to others and is largely window dressing, and Wicked's personal opinion of the "fake crumb" is largely meaningless when
it's obvious a significant enough portion of the town are going to get hung up on it
and why more people don't seem to be aware of why us extending out a lynch centered on someone crumbing our only PR is bad is beyond me.

If Bulge flips town it removes any future wifom of that crumb and hopefully redirects wolves kill to Fuzzy, but that possibility is dwindling more and more the longer this goes on and more of us figure out who the seer is. This lynch should have gone through 2-3 pages ago.

I find it absolutely hilarious that you think my wagon is town-driven, or at its least "a significant portion of the town".

In post 667, Not_Mafia wrote:So vote him. You summed this whole thing up yourself here

In post 665, Bins wrote: everyone keeps assuming he's destined to flip WW

I addressed this before but I want to stress again how shitty this post is. Not to mention how shitty the wagon is. I will be legitimately surprised if there is any more than one townie on my wagon.

Can we make a Not_Mafia wagon happen? I'd also be down to lynch Unsight or Desp. Maybe Riddleton based on recent bullshit. I'll give him a read next.

PEDIT: Aw no N_M wagon :( Promise me it will happen tomorrow.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:04 pm

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Nah, Riddleton looks good. and are bad but not outstandingly scummy.
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Post Post #693 (isolation #47) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:14 pm

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Hm. Missed that one. Can we please do this today?
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Post Post #698 (isolation #48) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:23 pm

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My thoughts go out to your family. Hope everything turns out alright :)

I don't see the Not_Mafia lynch going through quite yet without more support. I will push for this tomorrow if not today, though.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #49) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:32 pm

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In post 700, Paschendale wrote:@Wicked: As much as you don't like the votes on Bulge based on the claim accusation, you haven't really ever addressed my case on him. He almost exclusively defends himself, doesn't contribute to finding scum, and his vote on Titus did not look like one where the outcome was unknown. That wasn't a compromise vote. That wasn't a vote he genuinely believed in. That was a vote that was cast against a known enemy.

Are you saying everyone else on the Titus wagon wasn't sure of their vote? Sounds like a pretty awful wagon to me.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #50) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:46 pm

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In post 728, Bins wrote:Are we seriously at 2 days?

Fakc.

Wicked, will you vote Bulge over a No Lynch?

In post 671, Bins wrote:I'm saying it's a shit lynch because there's no good argument for it that I can see and everyone's still acting like Bulge is conf scum. Lynch Bulge, NM, go ahead, I'm not attempting to defend against the wagon, I just don't want to be a part of it.

And I don't see Desp scum for reasons that he voted Splash vs Shaded. I don't think he'd just not bus his partner in that situation.

Why so eager to switch wagons? The Desp wagon is only one vote behind mine.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #51) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:47 pm

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In post 711, Desperado wrote:I can't emphasize enough how dead Bulge should be and how bad this counterwagon on me is.

In other news: Desp is still dodging my question and refusing to tell me why he is pushing for my lynch so hard.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #52) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:49 pm

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In post 732, Bins wrote:Honestly, if you end up being lynched and flip town, there's a lot of heads I'm going to want. Starting with getting actual content from Desp.

Or how about getting an explanation from desp BEFORE sheeping him?
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Post Post #736 (isolation #53) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:53 pm

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In post 734, Bins wrote:When did I say I was going to sheep him? I was asking Wicked if he would.

Sorry, I wasn't addressing that specifically to you. I mean for everyone. Why would we just ignore the blatant dodging until tomorrow? Is putting it off really worth a mis-lynch?

PEDIT - I already said this. Desp is one vote behind me.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #54) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:33 pm

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In post 740, Desperado wrote:
In post 730, The Bulge wrote:
In post 711, Desperado wrote:I can't emphasize enough how dead Bulge should be and how bad this counterwagon on me is.

In other news: Desp is still dodging my question and refusing to tell me why he is pushing for my lynch so hard.


Am I not giving any content or am I pushing hard for lynch? Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Checking in every couple pages and complaining about a lynch not going through is
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Post Post #743 (isolation #55) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:38 pm

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Why are you so stubbornly avoiding my questions?
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Post Post #745 (isolation #56) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:44 pm

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Uhhh... no.

The only reason you've given is the half-assed logic behind the supposed seer softclaim that you're so fond of.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #57) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:54 pm

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Oh. Ok.

Well in that case, that's a dumb fucking reason.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #58) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:54 pm

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And lazy as shit.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:13 am

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Paschendale wrote:His votes were for poor and unfounded reasons.

: RVS vote.
: I got a lot of shit for this vote. But look at the next
three posts
after mine. They all contain the same vote. Why the fuck did I get attacked? I wasn't sheeping. I wasn't voting without a reason. The other three votes were no better than mine. Why me? Easy. Scum motivated push. (scum) is the first to lead the wagon on me. The wagon is very quickly and eagerly picked up by Not_Mafia (scum).
: His reasons for pushing me were stupid, and I didn't like that he just picked up fuzzy's case and went with it. I'm still down for a Not_Mafia lynch.
: Obviously to prevent a No Lynch.

What more reasoning do you want?

Paschendale wrote:His contributions have not helped find scum at all

Just because you don't agree with my scumreads doesn't mean I'm not contributing. I believe I have nailed scum in Not_Mafia and Desperado. Go with it or don't, but don't tell me I haven't contributed. Yea my Day 1 play was weak. I was busy and frankly shittier at the game then.

Paschendale wrote:his day 1 play, especially his vote, looked like trying to fly under the radar.

What vote are you talking about here? The Titus vote? Really? Would you have preferred a No Lynch?

Paschendale wrote:The last two votes on day 1, that being his and yours, both looked like this. They had all the trappings of votes cast by people who know exactly the outcome that a lynch will have (or at very least, know that it won't be their team).

Ok, so this says I'm not mafia. Which is true. But the only outcome of the lynch that I was sure of was that it would happen as oppose to a No Lynch. That is what I was trying to prevent. Day 1 lynches are for information. I said it myself I wasn't sure how to feel about Titus, but I wagoned along in the interest of time.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:18 am

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Fuck. You guys better look at Desperado and Not_Mafia tomorrow.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:19 am

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In post 597, fuzzybutternut wrote:Okay, why are we calling out softclaims? Like, someone please, PLEASE tell me the town motivation behind that?

Yikes. Look at fuzzy tomorrow too. This tells me you at least somewhat believed that I could be seer. Why so quick to hammer without asking for a hard claim?
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Post Post #763 (isolation #62) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:21 am

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Yea that was an awful hammer. Lurking until L-1. Bad bad bad.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #63) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:21 am

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Glad I could at least leave everyone with a good wagon to analyze. Please do. I guarantee at least half is scum.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #64) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:23 am

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Why so quiet? Does twilight scare you? Get this day over as fast as you can, right? Don't want to give too much information.
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Post Post #766 (isolation #65) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:25 am

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Wicked will probably die tonight. RIP
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Post Post #768 (isolation #66) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:28 am

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In post 767, Not_Mafia wrote:If you think Wicked has any chance of dying you haven't been paying attention.

Do you think I'm flipping scum?
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Post Post #771 (isolation #67) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:34 pm

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If Wicked is WW I'm going to be upset.

If Not_Mafia is town I'm going to be upset.
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #68) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:44 pm

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Wow. Well played, mafia. I'm very surprised fuzzy lived to endgame considering he was universally scum-read the entire game. And majors props to Bins for being everybody's top townread in LyLo. Well done, both of you. :)
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #69) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:45 pm

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In post 760, The Bulge wrote:Fuck. You guys better look at Desperado and Not_Mafia tomorrow.

In post 762, The Bulge wrote:
In post 597, fuzzybutternut wrote:Okay, why are we calling out softclaims? Like, someone please, PLEASE tell me the town motivation behind that?

Yikes. Look at fuzzy tomorrow too. This tells me you at least somewhat believed that I could be seer. Why so quick to hammer without asking for a hard claim?

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Post Post #1214 (isolation #70) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:47 pm

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In post 764, The Bulge wrote:Glad I could at least leave everyone with a good wagon to analyze. Please do. I guarantee at least
half is scum
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In post 774, Mist7676 wrote:
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, Riddleton, Paschendale,
Desperado
, Unsight

AHEMAHEMAHEM
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #71) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:48 pm

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