Mini 447 -Game Over

[Arkest]

OMGUS & Bandwagon vote in one!

Vote: pickemgenius

Worried about my scum hunting abilities you saw last game, hmm?

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LOL! If that is really what you are going by for your first vote, good luck with that "over reasoning" Just saying "random" would have been smarter

Awfully defensive there man.
And I'd say voting for a minor reason is better than a random vote.

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Haschel, are you a real pirate or do you just dress like one?

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Vote: Y.C

For not posting on page 1. I don't care if it's a weekend!

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Mod didn't specify votes have to be

bold

actually. It's a good habit to get into though, since many mods do require it.

And it's pretty obvious thethirdnail is just trying to bandwagon ryan. So,

Vote: thethirdnail

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unvote

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Wow, thirdrail has only posted 2 words, putting him at lynch -1 on page 2 is a bit crazy.

Vote: Haschel Cedricson

FoS: pickemgenius

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Wait, I counted lynch -2. Who else voted

With 9 left, it's only 5 to lynch now.

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And I will thank Arkest for rethinking his logic about me "obviously bandwagoning."

I was partly joking and partly needling you for giving

no word of explanation whatsoever

for your vote. But this:

When I voted, I had one vote against me and

chose to vote for someone who already had a vote

to increase my chances of survival.

is pretty much the definition of bandwagoning.

I had the most votes against me at the time.

You had

one

random vote on you. That's hardly cause for concern, and I don't know about

your

role, but townies don't need to survive to win this game. Your only concern should be lynching scum, getting another townie lynched to save yourself does not help at all.

I agree with Haschel thus far, and his logic for choosing me follows.

You agree with Haschel voting for you??? Is this some scum free-for-all busing strategy?

FoS: thethirdnail

pickem, why did you put the third vote on thirdrail anyway? Seems odd you are complaining about the bandwagon when you were right in the middle of it.

Man, this game went from 0 to crazy in 2 pages, we haven't even heard from two players yet.

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I wanted discussion, which has come, and at that time ryan was still in the game, my third vote was only half of what was needed for a lynch.

What? Was your "Well, I'll be danged." not in response to the mod-kill? Ryan was quite dead when you made that post.

I may be tired crapless, but I don't get where i'm complaining about the bandwagons.

Well you voted for Herschel based on him jumping on the thirdnail bandwagon. That indicates to me that you probably don't approve of it.

And what the heck SpinWizard, a FoS with no explanation? And does that mean you consider him less worth a vote than your "random" vote on Blue Zebra?

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I don't call a random vote on ryan before we knew his status as evidence.
Nobody else really should either.

I'd agree with this, but 2 of the 3 who voted ryan are saying it's likely of them is scum! I don't understand why they are using that logic. There is also the fact you voted thirdnail right after the modkill, why did you do this?

And yes I had voted him also, but my vote was 2 out of 6 to lynch, yours was 3 out of 5 to lynch, different situations I'd say.

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I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with the logic that one of you must be scum because you had a vote on someone who turned out to be town.

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A couple questions: how many mafia are likely left? Or I guess a better question is: what scenarios remain? Is the mafia likely in the minority?

My working assumption is 1-2 more mafia and 1 SK. There could be more exotic scenarios but I doubt it and it's pointless to speculate about them until there is evidence for them. And I certainly hope the mafia is in the minority, if they ever attain a majority they have pretty much won.

I'm having trouble defending myself, though I feel if the only evidence anyone has for suspecting me is that I "may have started a bandwagon by voting for ryan." I understand that a lead is better than nothing, but I'm telling you I'm not mafia, and I'd hate to prove you wrong by having the mod tell you another townie was wastefully killed.

The "I'm not mafia, you are lynching a townie" defense is pretty much always a bad idea.

I feel I can only persuade anyone by
A) proving someone to be more likely to be scum
B) prove I am a townie[/quote]Pretty much the only way for you to prove "B" is to die, so I'd suggest working on "A".

Is it possible the scum are just letting the town destroy itself?

Oh certainly, but the more you post, the more other players can judge your alignment, so pro-town players should have no fear of posting.

I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with the logic that one of you must be scum because you had a vote on someone who turned out to be town.

That sounds familiar eh , look how that turned out...

Are you threatening me with a night kill?

For the record, of those 4, I think arkest is the least likely to be mafia.

Ack, please don't help the mafia by telling who you don't find suspicious.

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That all you have to say Blue Zebra, we haven't heard anything from you since your random vote?

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Well I FoSed him because thethirdnail was 1 vote away from lynch on page 2, and pickem was the third of the four votes. He still hasn't given a reason for why he placed that vote.

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Poison Ivy -

0 posts!

Y.C - 1 post
relph - 2 posts
Blue Zebra - 3 posts
SpinWizard - 4 posts (only 1 with content)

You guys are killing this game.

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I try not to start sentences with lowercase-named people. Probably go with leave them lowercase if I had to pick. FoS: people without capitalized names!

Unvote: Haschel Cedricson

Vote: Y.C

Lose internet again Y.C?

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/pokes thread.

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unvote

My current suspicions are leaning towards thethirdnail and SpinWizard, but there's also 3 players who are complete blanks (Poison Ivy, Relph, Y.C).

Ok, i don't see anything to go on, who has not been participateing, mabey we should target them first

Arkest is,the most active player in the game and in my opinion when i am scum i are very active, on the back of this.

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A deadline with 1/3 of the players MIA, great... this is going to make day 2 very difficult.

Vote: SpinWizard

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If you are referring to my vote, read the mods rules on deadline lynches and you may see why I felt compelled to vote now.

Also this:

i think thethirdnail was silly putting ryan at -1

never happened.

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Does that make you reconsider your vote on thirdnail at all?

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How can you in good conscience want to lynch someone who has never even posted? That's the equivalent of randomly lynching someone.

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It's WIFOM to try and determine a role based on the player abandoning the game. A mafioso who has abandoned the game can't hurt us though

Poison Ivy never posted in this game, and hasn't posted on site since 5/16.
Relph hasn't posted since 5/22.
Y.C has asked to be replaced.
These three need to be replaced, not lynched.

thethirdnail has been around, but isn't posting now for some reason?

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Nice guys.
Town got real lucky with the SK choices.