Open 563 - Jungle Republic (Night 5~)

[fuzzybutternut]

i'm pretty sure you're trolling now that everyone thinks that

First rule of mafia is to never openly admit every read you have, unless you're about to be lynched.

[Desperado]

Desperado, Wicked - Please tell us what nights you "investigated" your targets.

Splash n1, Riddleton n2

[Bins]

i'm pretty sure you're trolling now that everyone thinks that

First rule of mafia is to never openly admit every read you have, unless you're about to be lynched.

you don't have a nk
i'm really not afraid

[Wickedestjr]

I crumbed my role on several occasions, I was actually worried that I made it too obvious.

If Titus was the seer then I think she would have claimed that by now. I seriously doubt that she's the seer...

Wouldn't have said this as VT.

I'm honestly kinda surprised that I'm still alive too, but pleasantly surprised. But I think it's too early for you to consider that.

If I'm alive on day 4 and haven't attracted suspicion, then I'll admit that would be pretty strange. I would understand if you considered lynching me then

, but not now.

Wouldn't have said this as VT. Alternatively, getting kept alive until day 4 is great for town when I'm the seer.

Pretty confident that fuzzy is not a werewolf. The werewolf speculation yesterday + initiation of night kill discussion + Unsight vote don't make sense for him as werewolf. It makes more sense for him to hunt werewolves as mafia, cannot see the nightkill interest coming from someone who conducted the kill, and his question/vote in 551 regarding Unsight are both solid.

My first major contribution after night 1 ended and I had just investigated fuzzy.

I figured out who the seer was from your counter wagoning, so yes there is and was a risk

1. I don't believe you - still think your seer preservation is disingenuous.

I didn't believe Not_Mafia knew who the seer was, because I was the seer and Not_Mafia had expressed suspicion of me. He wouldn't express suspicion of someone that he knew to be the seer.

Not_Mafia, now would be a good time for you to explain that comment.

[Bins]

lolwut

VOTE: Desperado

I hated Wicked's push yesterday, and those are a pair of really poor investigative choices, bur I don't see why scum would CC that way

they aren't actually that poor

imo i think desp's are worse

[fuzzybutternut]

I don't know what to think here, tbh.

[Desperado]

How so Bins?

[Not_Mafia]

Fuzzy was obvious mafia after the Shaded flip, the Unsight case was awful and is an example of someone not wanting to let go of their their pet read instead of making a investigative choice that would benefit town as a whole. Splash would at least be a useful not-wolf inno as the slot has been a giant ?, Riddleton was poor too though.

Either way it's the CC that matters more. I don't really want to get in to pointlessly attacking someone's play but yeah I'm frustrated with how our PR has played this.

[Bins]

How so Bins?

not much other than riddleton fkd up how many wws were in the game

[Wickedestjr]

N1- fuzzy
N2- Unsight

Bins and Not_Mafia are correct when they say I wouldn't have CC'd like that as scum.

Regardless of the lynch choice, I'd like to take another guess at the teams given the recent developments. This is probably my last day so I'd like to make the most of it.

[Bins]

This is probably my last day so I'd like to make the most of it.

:'(

[Desperado]

How so Bins?

not much other than riddleton fkd up how many wws were in the game

A dumbtell? Seriously?

[Bins]

How so Bins?

not much other than riddleton fkd up how many wws were in the game

A dumbtell? Seriously?

you're a dumbtell

[Not_Mafia]

Your mum is a dumbtell

[Bins]

now let's not get immature

[Not_Mafia]

Too late

[Wickedestjr]

the Unsight case was awful and is an example of someone not wanting to let go of their their pet read instead of making a investigative choice that would benefit town as a whole.

Oh give me a break. You have issue with my Unsight case, well I had issue with your Bulge case. I'd also like to point out that your "Bulge was scum, he just happened to receive a town role pm" is awful- like you refuse to take the blame and it's all Bulge's fault even though Bulge did nothing wrong. I was wrong about Unsight and I acknowledge that I made a mistake (I'm going to try correcting it today). If I considered the town's interest as a whole when I made all my decisions, then I would have joined yesterday's mislynch. Still glad I didn't.

Also: You said you thought Unsight was seer yesterday. Why is it awful that I would suspect/investigate my hypothetical CC? That makes no sense.

Splash would at least be a useful not-wolf inno as the slot has been a giant ?

Yes, but I thought Splash was town yesterday. There was no reason for me to investigate one of my town reads.

Not_Mafia, you briefly explained why you thought Unsight was seer but I didn't quite understand. Can you please explain in more detail? Tia.

[Not_Mafia]

I was just being facetious with my Bulge comment, it's nothing to take too seriously. And if you thought Unsight was trying to soft Seer then I understand your investigate on him. I was just frustrated in the moment as we're losing our seer and not really gaining anything from the results.

Firstly, only a werewolf would want to out the Seer. Secondly, Unsight is making too many assumptions here (that Bulge crumbed seer AND that scum would have noticed AND that scum would have nightkilled him if they thought he was seer) - the combination of weak assumptions here doesn't match the confidence that Unsight has in his belief that Bulge is a werewolf. Thirdly, Unsight completely ignores the rest of Bulge's play up until now despite calling him scum. This is the kind of accusation that says "I'm not a werewolf because I'm speculating about their nightkill, also lets all vote the potential seer!" and it's bothersome that he and Desperado are two of the major forces behind it.

This set off alarm bells for me, I found his interaction with the Bulge wagon odd but when you started talking about the assumptions he was making it made me think he was Seer softing and that you had thought this too and wanted to try and run him up and confirm, I still think the case was bad in general but I know now what loked like softing meant two very different things to us

[Wickedestjr]

Ok I like your answers. Misinterpreted the tone of your Bulge comment.

[Bins]

It's kind of funny tho how Unsight died - and wasn't townread, and was definitely WW read - and N_M suspected she was the Seer.

[Not_Mafia]

I'd like to think you think better of my scumplay than to think I would start waving a flag around saying "I made this kill!" as my partner had just been outed

[Riddleton]

First I'm town so your claim is bullshit, desperado.

[Riddleton]

I don't think you should have cc'ed wicked. It was obvious he was lying anyway.

[Riddleton]

vote: desperado

[Wickedestjr]

I don't think you should have cc'ed wicked. It was obvious he was lying anyway.

Obvious to you and I, but not to everyone else. If I didn't claim and Desperado's claim was believed for lack of a cc, then that would be a bad situation. Not sure I'd have gotten another investigation anyway.