Micro 387: Double Day Unlimited (GAME OVER)

OkaPoka · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:19 am

First

VOTE: ProHawk
VOTE: Flubbernugget
VOTE: roseylily
VOTE: scrambles
VOTE: Xayzeck
VOTE: kyndy101
VOTE: ZZZX
VOTE: Not_Mafia

OkaPoka · Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:36 am

In post 7, Not_Mafia wrote:I will unvote when I townread you

VOTE: ProHawk
VOTE: Flubbernugget
VOTE: roseylily
VOTE: scrambles
VOTE: Xayzeck
VOTE: kyndy101
VOTE: ZZZX
VOTE: OkaPoka

baaaaaaaaad excuse

OkaPoka · Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:40 am

UNVOTE: ProHawk
UNVOTE: Flubbernugget
UNVOTE: roseylily
UNVOTE: scrambles
UNVOTE: Xayzeck
UNVOTE: kyndy101
UNVOTE: ZZZX

NM is scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:46 am

In post 7, Not_Mafia wrote:I will unvote when I townread you

VOTE: ProHawk
VOTE: Flubbernugget
VOTE: roseylily
VOTE: scrambles
VOTE: Xayzeck
VOTE: kyndy101
VOTE: ZZZX
VOTE: OkaPoka

dont like this excuse

OkaPoka · Post Post #20 (isolation #4) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:02 am

You are trying to make an excuse in RVS for voting everyone. Which seems WAY TOO CAUTIOUS and scummy.

OkaPoka · Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:03 am

Also so far every time I lynched NotMafia day 1 it had a good result.

OkaPoka · Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:06 am

No, it is rvs so i just did it. You are being hyper cautious of not messing up.

The "excuse" part is the cautious part.

OkaPoka · Post Post #26 (isolation #7) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:10 am

So you are full of scum motives? for mislynching and whatnot?

OkaPoka · Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:12 am

What you are saying is that "I'm not scum for x, but I am for y"

So you are still scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #30 (isolation #9) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:14 am

Yes I do, if you truly believe that 6 mislynches are fine on your list.

OkaPoka · Post Post #32 (isolation #10) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:16 am

Here is the problem I have.

Scum tends to townhunt more than scumhunt.

Town tends to scumhunt rather than townhunt.

You are townhunting like scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #37 (isolation #11) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:23 am

VOTE: roselily

rvsvote? really? trying to cover yourself?

OkaPoka · Post Post #39 (isolation #12) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:43 am

"In any case, I'm going to RVS Vote: Xayzeck"

And you think nm is suspicious but he is not?

OkaPoka · Post Post #41 (isolation #13) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:58 am

You don't want to end rvs?

OkaPoka · Post Post #44 (isolation #14) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:35 am

In post 42, ProHawk wrote:VOTE: OkaPoka

explain?

OkaPoka · Post Post #51 (isolation #15) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:47 am

In post 49, ProHawk wrote:I would be surprised if Oka and N_M were buddies. Oka, you are being super-duper-overly-aggressive.

isnt that the point of rvs?

OkaPoka · Post Post #53 (isolation #16) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:59 am

In post 47, kyndy101 wrote:I kinda feel like Oka and NM are scumbuddies. They both entered the game the same way, saw each other do it, called each other out on it in what seems to me as an insincere fight over both of them doing it...
VOTE: Okapoka
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Why would I open with a bus on my buddy? Didn't we run into this situation in another game and it turned out that 3dice and bulb were town? I don't see your point.

OkaPoka · Post Post #55 (isolation #17) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:08 am

Kyndy is doing exactly what I did in a game we did together. turns out they were town.

Scum usually would not bus each other day 1 at the opening phase.

OkaPoka · Post Post #60 (isolation #18) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:18 am

I asked a question if roseylily wanted to end rvs.

OkaPoka · Post Post #61 (isolation #19) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:19 am

So guys we need to claim.

I'm vanilla townie don't hurt me.

OkaPoka · Post Post #64 (isolation #20) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:24 am

In post 45, roseylily wrote:
In post 41, OkaPoka wrote:You don't want to end rvs?

By putting someone at L1 less than a day into the game, when only four people have posted (from what I remember)? No.

She said no

OkaPoka · Post Post #68 (isolation #21) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:31 am

We sort of are as some people haven't even posted yet.

I would love to end rvs. I have null read on that post.

OkaPoka · Post Post #79 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:41 pm

it's kyndy fyi scrambles.

OkaPoka · Post Post #81 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:00 pm

wut do you mean?

OkaPoka · Post Post #84 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:38 pm

i don't lurkers.

waiting for xay to post.

OkaPoka · Post Post #86 (isolation #25) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:47 pm

oops.

I don't

like

lurkers

OkaPoka · Post Post #89 (isolation #26) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:52 pm

I don't know if scum is in which group. Only time will tell.

OkaPoka · Post Post #94 (isolation #27) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:38 pm

VOTE: zzzx post more

Xay I swear if you lurk any more i will L-1 you.

OkaPoka · Post Post #97 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:18 pm

Hey Xay we know you are active!
http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 3&sr=posts

now come play with me

OkaPoka · Post Post #108 (isolation #29) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:27 pm

NM you still scumread xay? He seems town to me.

OkaPoka · Post Post #121 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:48 am

In post 111, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 108, OkaPoka wrote:NM you still scumread xay? He seems town to me.

eyyy talk to me

are my reads shit?

All are good except rosey, flubber, and hawkman

In post 120, scrambles wrote:Nothing changed. He was next on my list after you, you were on there for repeating oka but trying to make it look like it was your own idea.
but you dropped off because the way you responded to my fake unvote meant that you had most likely looked at my scumreads already for links...or you double checked, which tells me you were genuinely suspicious which tells me you're town.

I would rather take responsibility for an unsafe lynch than have everyone deny culpability for a safe lynch. Safe lynches tell me nnothing I dont already know.

So you'd rather chance a mislynch?

OkaPoka · Post Post #122 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:50 am

In post 113, Not_Mafia wrote:It's not every game I get unlimited votes, I'm voting you because I can.
Step off and let me troll.

That post looks flaily to me. But after Cabd's game I can't really put any stock in any tonal read on you. So you're null.

Oka and Scrambles are my serious votes

God do I hate that sentence. It feels scummy as you are trying to cover your scumslips with weird reasoning.

OkaPoka · Post Post #125 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:52 am

It sounds like scramble would prefer to go for a null read lynch rather than a scum read which I would disagree with.

Pedit: You not unvoting Xay and making excuses

OkaPoka · Post Post #130 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:30 pm

In post 126, Not_Mafia wrote:Neither of those things are slips.

Tell me why I should unvote Xay specifically, and why me not townreading him after 3 content posts makes me scum?

Why isn't Xay town to you?

This is the most confident I felt Xay town in a long time.

Also scrambles, so who do you think is scum?

OkaPoka · Post Post #153 (isolation #34) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:53 am

In post 132, ProHawk wrote:I think Xayzeck is legit.

UNVOTE: Xayzeck

Oka probably needs to die today.

Why?

In post 134, Xayzeck wrote:lol that post above is a joke btw

In post 121, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 111, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 108, OkaPoka wrote:NM you still scumread xay? He seems town to me.

eyyy talk to me

are my reads shit?

All are good except rosey, flubber, and hawkman

What's bad about above 3?

Rosey i feel is scum. Now I am getting a slight scumread on flubber, but my pov was different before. Hawkman feels town.

In post 142, Not_Mafia wrote:Okay I can see how you interpreted it that way, all I meant was there was no reason for me to autotownreading you.

And doe Oka not remind you of Gerrymander mafia at all?

And my voting everyone is partially me trolling/pissing about with the set-up but it's also me me liking that I can pressure null reads as well as all my scum reads with a vote at will

Gerrymander mafia was me trying to piss off some players and buddy others. My overall plan was to turn town on each other but you guys caught me.

In post 145, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 140, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 137, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm currently townreading Prohawk because the way him and Oka pushed my wagon at the start was too similar for them to be partners and I'm scumreading Oka And if you want us to be talking about it then start a conversation on the topic

PROHAWK'S ISO IS A BIG PROBLEM

CAN WE DISCUSS THIS

Well he's active lurking.

What else would you like to discuss?

Prohawk and Xay are town. Also I need to get this out of the way

VOTE: flubber
VOTE: kyndy
UNVOTE: not mafia

OkaPoka · Post Post #154 (isolation #35) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:54 am

Also if you have less posts than Rob than you are a lurker to me.

OkaPoka · Post Post #172 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:18 pm

UNVOTE: rose

OkaPoka · Post Post #184 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:30 pm

I found someone I wanted to vote

OkaPoka · Post Post #187 (isolation #38) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:03 pm

UNVOTE: zzzx

getting dangerous

OkaPoka · Post Post #189 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:05 pm

flubber is an interesting lynch. I'm up with that, however his lynch will not get us much info at this point since his interactions are extremely limited except with prohawk. He definitely has some scum traits.

OkaPoka · Post Post #193 (isolation #40) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:09 pm

In post 192, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 189, OkaPoka wrote:flubber is an interesting lynch. I'm up with that, however his lynch will not get us much info at this point since his interactions are extremely limited except with prohawk. He definitely has some scum traits.

You're buddies with him?

no

OkaPoka · Post Post #203 (isolation #41) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:32 pm

When did I say we shouldn't lynch him?

I merely stated that his flip will not really give us pointers on next scum, implying we shouldn't rush a lynch. But I do fully support the flubber wagon.

OkaPoka · Post Post #205 (isolation #42) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:38 pm

I didn't say it was a bad lynch. I just believe contrary to notmafia's point that we shouldn't rush a lynch. We should take as much time as needed for the push due to his flip will lead us to minimal info on who is next scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #213 (isolation #43) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:05 am

In post 208, Not_Mafia wrote:Have you guys read the rules?

In post 2, Rob14 wrote:

1) Double Day: The town can lynch two players per day before a night phase begins.
After the first lynch of a day phase, all votes reset, but the deadline does not.

I know. It doesn't mean we should use the double day by rushing the first lynch.

OkaPoka · Post Post #214 (isolation #44) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:05 am

But flubber can be lynched

OkaPoka · Post Post #218 (isolation #45) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:05 am

Who is number 3?

OkaPoka · Post Post #225 (isolation #46) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:10 pm

I voted you cause I thought you were scummy. And I forgot I left my vote on you, my bad.

Also rosey is town.

OkaPoka · Post Post #236 (isolation #47) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:58 am

Prohawk is town.

Rosey you are town for that previous post i referred to.

FLubber is scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #239 (isolation #48) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:27 am

yeah rosey, flubber and xay are all town.

OkaPoka · Post Post #240 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:27 am

oops i meant hawk

OkaPoka · Post Post #277 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:18 pm

still here. sorry about that.

OkaPoka · Post Post #278 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:27 pm

Readlist coming soon^tm

I need to think about who I want to lynch.

OkaPoka · Post Post #280 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:42 pm

i haven't paid much attention to this game for a bit.

OkaPoka · Post Post #282 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:48 pm

disappointed at town

OkaPoka · Post Post #283 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:48 pm

as stated before my townreads are xay,rosey, and pro

OkaPoka · Post Post #284 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:48 pm

as stated before my townreads are xay,rosey, and pro

OkaPoka · Post Post #286 (isolation #56) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:15 pm

anybody who i am not townreading

OkaPoka · Post Post #289 (isolation #57) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:43 pm

Okay the people i am voting are obvious my highest scumreads.

OkaPoka · Post Post #291 (isolation #58) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:55 pm

oh well since i am probably the scapegoat again

Rosey is my only townread. gl hf town

OkaPoka · Post Post #293 (isolation #59) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:05 pm

yeah hoping on my wagon like that is not particularly town mr hawkman

also xay is dumb and should not be mislynching since he is a p good town player.

OkaPoka · Post Post #295 (isolation #60) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:12 pm

Scum must lynch pool: Flubber and Prohawk

NEVER LYNCH: Rosey

OkaPoka · Post Post #298 (isolation #61) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:20 pm

vote prohawk

kill him with fire

OkaPoka · Post Post #300 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:22 pm

If i hammer myself and flip town will you guys pls murder hawkman?

OkaPoka · Post Post #303 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:24 pm

kill me and then kill prohawk.

Let me update my readlist.

Scum: Prohawk
Don't Kill: Xay or Rosey

@Mod would I be modkilled and turned neutral survivor if I hammer myself, as town

OkaPoka · Post Post #306 (isolation #64) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:25 pm

my argument is to save town time

OkaPoka · Post Post #307 (isolation #65) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:26 pm

it makes perfect sense.

You guys are going to kill me anyways and waste a couple days of time, while you guys could be killing hawkman

OkaPoka · Post Post #313 (isolation #66) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:30 pm

Hawkman was an instant townread when I previously played with him.

Now he is carrying buckets of wifom and accusing me of stealing his buckets of wifom.

Okay Rob.

OkaPoka · Post Post #317 (isolation #67) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:33 pm

Notmafia is mafia for wanting to rush a lynch subtly.

Everyone except for Xay and rosey are throwing garbage.

OkaPoka · Post Post #321 (isolation #68) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:37 pm

(Sarcasm)

I think Prohawk is scum due to gut+all his stupid passive aggressive one line post that don't do anything for town and how overly serious he is. Prohawk accuse me of garbage throwing when he is also garbage throwing. Stuff like that

oh hi flubber nice seeing you putting me at L-1 again

OkaPoka · Post Post #322 (isolation #69) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:37 pm

unvote kyndy

OkaPoka · Post Post #327 (isolation #70) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:39 pm

flubber thought process
(i don't want to hammer and get scumcred, oh look hawk unvoted! Let's go vote oka now so I can push a lynch with out getting scum caught for hammering.)

ummm as scum? No, as scum I just troll the game and get lynched or a I lurk half a game.

OkaPoka · Post Post #331 (isolation #71) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:41 pm

I have a thing that is called a wiki to meta me that is outdated but it has my scum games on there. I think

OkaPoka · Post Post #334 (isolation #72) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:44 pm

either flubber or mr.hawk.

OkaPoka · Post Post #340 (isolation #73) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:49 pm

hi xay there is two scum so I need to find two people i want to lynch since they are scum .

I need to fill in all the blanks

OkaPoka · Post Post #343 (isolation #74) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:50 pm

Well top lynch is Flubber since I don't want to die.

OkaPoka · Post Post #346 (isolation #75) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:51 pm

im most confident of a hawk scum but none of you seem to agree with me

OkaPoka · Post Post #352 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:51 am

Don't lynch Rosey or Xay

Lynch Flubber or Prohawk

all that matters

OkaPoka · Post Post #358 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:45 am

The flubber and oka wagon are the same people basically.

OkaPoka · Post Post #365 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:47 pm

VOTE: zzzx
VOTE: prohawk

OkaPoka · Post Post #380 (isolation #79) » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:50 am

Where is the prohawk on that list?

OkaPoka · Post Post #382 (isolation #80) » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:29 am

In post 369, ProHawk wrote:In fact, I am going to help you real quick.

In post 365, OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: zzzx
VOTE: prohawk

Are you saying that none of the people who helped lynch town are scum?

You voted ZZZX too man.

Also you left wagon as soon as a lynch was coming in. That quote seems pretty scummy too.

But I am still up for a notmafia lynch if necessary.

OkaPoka · Post Post #390 (isolation #81) » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:30 pm

Ehhh. I'll keep my vote on Prohawk since I like it that way.

OkaPoka · Post Post #400 (isolation #82) » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:41 am

I thought meta was useless... Like seriously i had to go through an entire game of people screaming at me meta was useless.

Lynching me will get you guys into Mylo.

OkaPoka · Post Post #432 (isolation #83) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:23 am

In post 429, Xayzeck wrote:VOTE: Oka

I'm pretty confident in that vote there.

I was thinking Hawkie scum too, but with Oka on Hawkie I'm not too sure, so I'll hold that off. Rosey is still town, NM is climbing up the townlist. Adrien could be town, same with Hep.

Scrambles is my go to lynch if for some reason, this Oka lynch doesn't take off, but this Oka lynch is a good lynch.

you can use two votes to vote hawkman you know.

OkaPoka · Post Post #434 (isolation #84) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:36 am

If I could lynch scum with one town casualty it would be worth it in my opinion. It allows two players reads, one with true town pov, other with easy reads to find scum buddy.

Mainly though I think you are scum so I want Xay to vote you. Makes sense?

OkaPoka · Post Post #440 (isolation #85) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:34 am

droog are you an alt by any cance?

OkaPoka · Post Post #442 (isolation #86) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:40 am

He's been pushing wagons and leaving them last second, and posting useless and annoying info full of wifom and one liners.

OkaPoka · Post Post #444 (isolation #87) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:46 am

That vote was for lurking predecessor.

OkaPoka · Post Post #445 (isolation #88) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:48 am

Also I would lynch hawkman

OkaPoka · Post Post #447 (isolation #89) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:52 am

Keeps calling me scum and full of wifom even though I didn't go wifom mode. To add to that his posts are extremely passive aggressive and don't get much done.

OkaPoka · Post Post #449 (isolation #90) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:06 am

he says im full of wifom. sorry if unclear

OkaPoka · Post Post #451 (isolation #91) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:18 am

I did since I think he is scum. I don't exactly remember why but yeah.

OkaPoka · Post Post #455 (isolation #92) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:59 am

UNVOTE: prohawk

okay you win

OkaPoka · Post Post #457 (isolation #93) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:03 pm

In post 456, roseylily wrote:
In post 438, droog wrote:Or, explain to me why you don't have a vote

Because I've been really busy with school stuff and don't want to vote someone with little justification.
However, I did have time to read through the thread today. Originally, I was thinking that Oka would be a good lynch even if he wasn't scum, since he's pretty much been voting people without any reasoning. Even after reading his (very short) explanation of his vote on ProHawk, I still don't want him near endgame.

VOTE: OkaPoka

EBWOP:
@Oka: Why did you say "you win"? And what made you change your mind?

Har. Your case is "I'll lynch him even if he is town"

Also nice parroting of Xay and Prohawk you got there.

Goddamnit now I want you dead.

OkaPoka · Post Post #458 (isolation #94) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:03 pm

In post 456, roseylily wrote:
In post 438, droog wrote:Or, explain to me why you don't have a vote

Because I've been really busy with school stuff and don't want to vote someone with little justification.
However, I did have time to read through the thread today. Originally, I was thinking that Oka would be a good lynch even if he wasn't scum, since he's pretty much been voting people without any reasoning. Even after reading his (very short) explanation of his vote on ProHawk, I still don't want him near endgame.

VOTE: OkaPoka

EBWOP:
@Oka: Why did you say "you win"? And what made you change your mind?

Do you know who I don't want near endgame? A guy who doesn't post much.

OkaPoka · Post Post #459 (isolation #95) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:04 pm

VOTE: rosey

Fight me 1v1.

Sorry for triple posting

OkaPoka · Post Post #461 (isolation #96) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:14 pm

Okay who are you an alt of droog?

OkaPoka · Post Post #463 (isolation #97) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:21 pm

Have we played together before? You sound familiar.

OkaPoka · Post Post #466 (isolation #98) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:33 pm

(btw kyndy is adrien so you know why I was voting adrien)

OkaPoka · Post Post #468 (isolation #99) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:35 pm

wat! I voted the wrong person...

I said you win because prohawk convinced me.

OkaPoka · Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:36 pm

UNVOTE: adrien
VOTE: heph

OkaPoka · Post Post #474 (isolation #101) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:10 pm

i was wrong though...

OkaPoka · Post Post #485 (isolation #102) » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:43 pm

I actually like this case. I don't like how prohawk and nm are agreeing this much those.

OkaPoka · Post Post #524 (isolation #103) » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:43 am

Im still waiting for rosey to duel me

OkaPoka · Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:40 am

Give me your case on me.

OkaPoka · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:21 am

Xayzeck has officially joined my null reads.

My main scum read is rosey for doing a quick flip onto me. She reminds me of FSO.

OkaPoka · Post Post #562 (isolation #106) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:41 pm

hi xay.
HOW THE HELL IS ROSEY TOWN?

HOW THE HELL AM I SCUM?

HOW THE HELL CAN I BE SCUM WITH HAWK?

Why are your reads so fucked now.

OkaPoka · Post Post #564 (isolation #107) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:01 pm

meta meta meta meta meta meta.

Did you not endure an entire game of players shouting and raging at me for meta stuff? Is meta really that useful? Is your case on me really going to be all about meta?

OkaPoka · Post Post #566 (isolation #108) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:07 pm

Okay what is your case then?

OkaPoka · Post Post #604 (isolation #109) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:18 pm

The two top wagons both have different people on them.

OkaPoka · Post Post #624 (isolation #110) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:15 pm

wtf? YOU DIDNT SAY AN INTENT? This is a lynch that shouldn't have happened. You scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #627 (isolation #111) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:18 pm

No we NL tmr since we will be in Mylo most likely.

OkaPoka · Post Post #629 (isolation #112) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:20 pm

Notmafia is scum.

I am 99% sure of it. Or NotMAfia just made a terribad play. But we still tmr. Depends on the flip though.

If heph flips scum we can continue voting, if he flips town we NL.

OkaPoka · Post Post #630 (isolation #113) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:21 pm

Due to Mylo having 6 players, so we can reduce down to 5 player lylo and less chance of a mislynch.

OkaPoka · Post Post #632 (isolation #114) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:23 pm

woops. I forgot. Derp

OkaPoka · Post Post #633 (isolation #115) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:24 pm

So if Heph flips scum i'm going after Rosey.

If Heph flips town i'm going after nm.

OkaPoka · Post Post #635 (isolation #116) » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:24 pm

tomorrow.

OkaPoka · Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:40 am

VOTE: notmafia

OkaPoka · Post Post #703 (isolation #118) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:42 pm

I don't see a case by Xay one me other than he doesn't want me near endgame?

OkaPoka · Post Post #704 (isolation #119) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:42 pm

OkaPoka · Post Post #708 (isolation #120) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:59 pm

Scum pretend to be helpful by looking out for town a lot of times.

OkaPoka · Post Post #719 (isolation #121) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:35 pm

What is so bad about everyone?

OkaPoka · Post Post #721 (isolation #122) » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:43 pm

Voting. Sorry im really tired right now

OkaPoka · Post Post #745 (isolation #123) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:07 am

Xay are you going to ignore the fact notmafia jumped in and hammered?

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:47 am

Thanks adrien for telling xay in a wordy response of what I kept screaming at Xay for, meta doesn't matter.

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:10 pm

Attack Xay if NM is scum.

Attack you if NM is town.

OkaPoka · Post Post #757 (isolation #126) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:18 pm

Seems like it to me.

Okay xay, give me a explanation on scum meta of me. I'll debate my scum meta if that is really how you want things to go down.

OkaPoka · Post Post #758 (isolation #127) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:20 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=54448
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=55123
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58204
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=58678

My scum games for you meta nerds.

OkaPoka · Post Post #761 (isolation #128) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:25 pm

In post 347, Xayzeck wrote:Generally I find that Oka tries his best to emulate town meta as scum.

So his early game is often the same.

Probably though, once he gets run up, his speed dies out, so I've gotten more confident in Oka-scum.

how the hell do i try to emulate my town meta as scum?

Note chosen and newbie 1507 i was lurky, gerrymander i was playing trolly, and vengeful i did a suicide run.

So?

OkaPoka · Post Post #796 (isolation #129) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:50 pm

proddodge

OkaPoka · Post Post #798 (isolation #130) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:03 pm

I want to have NM flip first.

OkaPoka · Post Post #800 (isolation #131) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:06 pm

not confident in Adrien scum yet.

OkaPoka · Post Post #801 (isolation #132) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:07 pm

why isn;t Xay voting me? I'm not complaining or anythin

OkaPoka · Post Post #803 (isolation #133) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:10 pm

Notmafia seems like a good lynch. He swooped down and hammered heph with no intent. He acted scummy from day 1.

Xay is only really scum if NotMafia is scum.

OkaPoka · Post Post #806 (isolation #134) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:18 pm

adrien + hawkman

OkaPoka · Post Post #808 (isolation #135) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:31 pm

uh where?

OkaPoka · Post Post #810 (isolation #136) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:15 pm

Terribad gambit.

OkaPoka · Post Post #815 (isolation #137) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:50 am

In post 812, Not_Mafia wrote:Wrong question actually. What's your point?

I don't think it is a gambit. Plus you could've had an entire day to decide whether to hammer or not.

OkaPoka · Post Post #816 (isolation #138) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:51 am

In post 813, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 803, OkaPoka wrote:Notmafia seems like a good lynch. He swooped down and hammered heph with no intent. He acted scummy from day 1.

Xay is only really scum if NotMafia is scum.

That hammer was a deadline hammer you know? I don't know why you're insisting on blowing it up to be a scum hammer when there's townmotivation in trying to get a lynch.

Also he wasn't scummy whole of D1.

And also, your scumpoints on me have nothing to do with your scumpoints on NM. Why is it I'm scum if NM is scum, and I cannot be scum if NM is town?

VOTE: Oka

And I just forgot to drop that because I thought I did a long time ago

Not confident in Xay scum if Notmafia flips town by PoE and how you defended NM a few times.

OkaPoka · Post Post #817 (isolation #139) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:52 am

Unless of course you are whiteknighting but I don't think that is the case either.

OkaPoka · Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:25 pm

Xayzeck, OkaPoka, hephaestus, Not_Mafia, roseylily

xay and notmafia are in there.

OkaPoka · Post Post #831 (isolation #141) » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:37 am

quite a few people made a case on you

OkaPoka · Post Post #836 (isolation #142) » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:52 am

VOTE: adrien

alright pick one

OkaPoka · Post Post #838 (isolation #143) » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:01 am

I miss your paint avatar.

OkaPoka · Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:41 am

oh well its over guys so if you are scum just speak up and tell us your strats I guess.

OkaPoka · Post Post #891 (isolation #145) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:08 pm

HAPPY SCUMDAY ROB!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways we are in Lylo now.

OkaPoka · Post Post #892 (isolation #146) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:09 pm

Anyone up for an adrien lynch?

OkaPoka · Post Post #901 (isolation #147) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:49 pm

Waits for other ppl to post

OkaPoka · Post Post #903 (isolation #148) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:51 pm

Unvote pls

OkaPoka · Post Post #908 (isolation #149) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:11 pm

Xay+droog

or

Adrien + Prohawk

OkaPoka · Post Post #924 (isolation #150) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:28 pm

Have you considered Adrien/Xay?

They have like no interaction IIRC.

OkaPoka · Post Post #927 (isolation #151) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:33 pm

No I like Xay/droog more.

Anyways how is it like to have your partner not help you droog?

OkaPoka · Post Post #928 (isolation #152) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:35 pm

In post 622, droog wrote:UNVOTE: roseliley
VOTE: hephaestus

In post 623, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Hephaestus

Ending the day, plus his recent posts read as scum facetiousness

No L-1?

Buying NM gambit? Seems a bit whiteknighty

OkaPoka · Post Post #929 (isolation #153) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:36 pm

Also you dive in and vote Adrien. Town would be much more paranoid. I think a droog lynch needs to happen.

OkaPoka · Post Post #934 (isolation #154) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:41 pm

Mainly because I lie and make shit up as town quite often. Well can we compromise on a Xay lynch since we all like it?
Then if Xay flips scum we can have 1v1 droog vs adrien.

OkaPoka · Post Post #936 (isolation #155) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:43 pm

All right I need adrien and Xay to chime in and we can get going.

OkaPoka · Post Post #939 (isolation #156) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:51 pm

OkaPoka · Post Post #943 (isolation #157) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:17 pm

OkaPoka · Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:48 am

In post 963, droog wrote:VOTE: unvote

why did you even vote in the first place.

Also Xay gimme a minute to look through some stuff

OkaPoka · Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:06 pm

In post 784, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 761, OkaPoka wrote:how the hell do i try to emulate my town meta as scum?

Note chosen and newbie 1507 i was lurky, gerrymander i was playing trolly, and vengeful i did a suicide run.

So?

I didn't specifically say you emulate your townmeta as scum, I said logically(generally/typically/it makes the most sense to think that), you'd(this is a general you, not you specifically, so could be replaced with "people will") try to emulate townmeta as scum.

Chosen and Newbie would be you playing to your scum meta.

Gerrymander and Vengeful would be you avoiding your scum meta.

But remember that one newbie you crumbed tracker and shit got really messed up? You never denied your town meta, your aggression never died out, I even vaguely remember you bringing up your own townmeta after I started scumreading you. TownOka clearly has no problem, even if he strongly believe metatells are useless. As town, I openly welcome metatells, as scum I openly deny them and believe them to be unreliable, and as scum I only accept metatells from people I play with before, because that's the meta I believe should be used in games, not metatells from someone I don't even know.

Also, meta is not the only thing that makes me think you're scum, just fyi.

This is different. That game I was pr so it was necessary to stay alive no matter what. I was desperate. Usually I would have given up on the game. I had to keep my aggressiveness in order to feed town my reads.

Here I am town and vanilla. I don't have a claim to keep me alive. I am starting to shift my play style a bit so meta won't defend me. I am starting to dislike meta cases. I can only fight with what is in the game.

In post 709, Xayzeck wrote:350 Says rosey town
382 Prohawk makes a good point, Oka doesn't address it. He votes Prohawk for jumping off the wagon, which is ok, and he backs up his ZZZX vote by "you voted him too" which makes absolutely no sense. Also doesn't answer the question at all, so his answer is almost completely unrelated. Logically for town you scumhunt on the townwagons, why isn't he doing that here? Because his buddy is on it? Maybe.
400 Around here is where I bring up Okameta, and I only do so because I've played with him before. Typically, he's more aggro and upbeat as town, and more lazy and quiet as scum. Logically, you'd try to emulate your town meta, and I'd imagine that's why so many people commented about his overaggroness early game, probably him overcompensating. Since then though, I'm sure most of you have noticed his play has died down to just about only defending himself and just lurking about. There are some pretty stark differences between his town and scum meta, and here's the big point: As town, he'd bloody love it. If anybody doubts him, AND they're using a metatell on him as town, he knows to god that logically he should be read as town, and if he isn't, then whoever is metatelling him is probably twisting. He knows I know his meta fairly well, and I can easily back this up with some of his games, hell I'm sure he's mentioned them too in this game. So once I bring up meta, his immediate reaction is to deny metatells, and sell them off as useless or unreliable, because he knows it won't work in his favour. TownOka may do the same, but he'd welcome it if anything. ScumOka will deny the hell out of it.
432 434 440 442 444 445 447 449 451 All perfect examples of his play dying out, lots of fluff, lots of oneliners, lots of half assing. Also the way he pulls of Hawk, that's not town. 455 Who in the world would just unvote they're scumread and say "ok you win you're town"? Every post before that doesn't look like he went through much or if not any convincing, he just backed off for no clear reason.
457 458 Read flip! "I want to lynch him even if he isn't scum" What's wrong with that? I recall a ton of ZZZX votes, saying you want to lynch him, and I'm sure as hell none of you could confidently say he was scum or town, you were all just voting because he lurked. This is perfectly fine, scummy to some, but it's amazing how you blew it up to the top of your scumlist, and what's this...
459 You literally just started scumreading her and then wanted to 1v1. What town does this? Let go of their scumread so easily, pick one up so quickly, and 1v1 over a small stance? This is not town, this is scum just doing whatever it can to get another lynch happening.
461 463 466 468 more fluff and uselessness
469 yay for naked votes.
474 485 a little more fluff
524 Again, he still insist on the 1v1. And nothing else but this, and fluff/lowcontent posts.
554 FSO is someone else who played in a game both Oka and I were in. This game, Oka has made references to players and past games we had, it bothers me the hell out. It counts as meta, and it's so disturbing, it's like early game he did this a bunch, maybe because he had that aggro start and wanted me to do meta to townread him.

I'm lazy, lunch is here.

1. I will admit I was fencesitting on rosey's alignment.
2. Oops?
3. Okay, when I am town I am aggressive. I like that. But you mis said a lot. I am never aggressive the entire game. The game with TSO and NM scum. I was never aggressive and was very watch from the sidelines. Game where Glass and Mallow came along, of course you think I am aggro, I got killed day 1. You can notice that I start to die in content as people begin accusing me.
4. I hate walls. I play very fluffy. Name a game where I did not have one liners or fluff. Oh wait.
5. I started falling into favor prohawk town. It really felt town to me, and sincere. Or prohawk is just that good.
6. I was being bitter, and rosey flipped on me. I got pretty mad and wanted to fight rosey in order to see what the case was really about. It feels like you left rosey dead to push your case on me.
7. I need stuff.
8. That's me!
9. Yay?
10. Look at me go!
11. Pretty hard to get content from me unless somebody forces it on me.
12. Trying to make it easier for you to understand.

Look at me post so much!

OkaPoka · Post Post #979 (isolation #160) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:58 pm

(adrien and droog are scum)

Alrighty!

OkaPoka · Post Post #982 (isolation #161) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:12 pm

Or maybe an adrien droog team?

OkaPoka · Post Post #984 (isolation #162) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:18 pm

or they get conf town status and win lylo.

It is spec, but adrien lynch seems pretty good.

OkaPoka · Post Post #991 (isolation #163) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:57 pm

Alrighty I'll go for a Xay lynch.

OkaPoka · Post Post #998 (isolation #164) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:57 am

Can I have a readlist from everybody?

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:54 am

All right adrien and droog you guys have 2 days to duke it out and fight each other with a case.

Then we lynch Xay and have droog vs adrien fight continue.

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:41 pm

okay lets lynch Xay now?

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:47 pm

OkaPoka · Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:35 pm

In post 1023, Xayzeck wrote:I bring up meta (suggests he is scum)

He denies it (also suggests he is scum)

Read flip on rosey, suggests 1v1 for no reason, doesn't let go

General half-assed posting, fluff, brings up games between him and I(this particular point doesn't suggest alignment, because I can't attach an alignment to it, but it's disturbing)

^that's your summary

1. So give me your best meta case with examples

2. Good reasons and good reasons

3. That's me

OkaPoka · Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:22 am

In post 1046, Xayzeck wrote:Derp quote!

Hey Oka, what's your case on me?

PoE

one of droog/adrien is scum
Prohawk is 99% town.

OkaPoka · Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:23 am

STOP!

NOW

OkaPoka · Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:23 am

Consider this, if droog was scum who would be his partner?

OkaPoka · Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:25 am

Droog who would be adrien's partner?

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:13 pm

hi.

can we vote xay?

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:26 pm

VOTE: xay

first vote

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:07 pm

yeah will im not

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:25 pm

Son of a...

I should not have fell into the trap i use all the time.

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:25 pm

Son of a...

I should not have fell into the trap i use all the time.

OkaPoka · Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:29 pm

Hah. But I guess you guys didn't expect my PR!

Govern: Xayzeck

Vig: Adrien, Droog

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:38 am

I considered crossbussing for a moment. But honestly it made no sense why scum would cross buss then.

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:39 am

At least i got one scum correct.

I was honestly going to lynch adrien tomorrow.

Thanks Rob for hosting! Really good job by the scum team!

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:46 am

Also about my flipout.

I did that on purpose. Xay was right it was fake.

For towncred.

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:49 am

You see, I know that Rob would modkill a self hammer guy.

If I was asking a question usually I would pm it.

This time I did it on purpose to test if you guys would townread me for that. You did. So yay for me! I had to lie in that situation to keep me alive. It's lame, I know. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

OkaPoka · Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:17 pm

It wasn't on purpose though. The thing is I try my best to play and emulate my town meta as scum.

OkaPoka · Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:45 pm

Do you think the scum team is scummy worthy?

OkaPoka · Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:33 pm

I hate how my new town meta is slowly evolving into my old scum meta style.

I really need to change that...

OkaPoka · Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:36 pm

I'm interested in why you guys chose to kill rosey over prohawk