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In post 51, OkaPoka wrote:In post 49, ProHawk wrote:I would be surprised if Oka and N_M were buddies. Oka, you are being super-duper-overly-aggressive.
isnt that the point of rvs?
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In post 135, Xayzeck wrote:
because Prohawks ISO is one BIG problem that you guys should be talking about, but god I don't know why he's getting townread.
So lets talk.
Did you just compare me to ZZZX?
I dunno, can we? Oh, my bad, you don't really want to discuss anything, you just want to yell and scream cause you forgot your caps-lock got stuck.
For the record, I think you are town. Not real good town, but that's another discussion for another day.- ProHawk
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Flubbernugget, please tell me you are joking....
But since you aren't, let me spell it out for the reading impaired. In the post in question to "provoke discussion" I called out the dude who keeps yelling and screaming that my posts suck, when they don't. I asked him to talk, when he isn't. I asked him to prove his comparison of me to a lad with two or three posts, where I have more than quadruple that. And I have given a read which will be helpful for analysis later on.
When I am not on my phone, we are going to analyze your posts, to see how much you have spurred discussion flubby boy.
Until then, serious question, are you dumb, or scum?- ProHawk
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I get it now Flubby! You ask questions. Right.
See, I have been at this a long time. I try not to spoon feed people because it gets, well, boring. People should be playing the game, providing reads, making cases, refuting cases and the like. Which I have been doing. Which you have not been doing.
One liner question posts are people wanting to look like they are scum-hunting, when in reality they are scum. You are sitting back, apparently have a scum read (me) but haven't voted yet, despite my only having picked up one vote at this point. Despite having the POWER of multiple votes. May be playstyle, may be scum-caution. I am leaning toward the latter. I would vote you if you weren't at L-2 already.- ProHawk
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In post 153, OkaPoka wrote:Why?
Many reasons Oka, however I will start off with gut, which although impossible to defend against generally leads me in the right direction (although not always)
Your RVS initial post was anti-town.
Didn't like your over the top aggression at the beginning. Looked like you were trying too hard.
Used a past experience meta (3d and Bulba) to paint yourself as town.
Didn't like your response to me asking where your scum-reads sat. VERY fency and non-committal.
HOWEVER
With that said, this latest string of attacks on me has scum written all over it. So you definitely don't sit first on my to-lynch pile ATM.- ProHawk
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In post 163, roseylily wrote:You also started making posts with more content shortly after beingcriticized for active lurking.ATTACKED
Fixed that for you.
roseylily wrote:You've made a lot of accusations (particularly of Oka, scrambles, and Flubber, I believe), but haven't provided a lot of evidence, and despite your criticism of one liner question posts, a quick ISO reveals about six.
Touche. In my defense, I'm not a lawyer, i'm a detective. If you want my evidence, ask for it, although I usually provide it without directly stating it. You're cute though.
roseylily wrote:Also, what read have you given that will be "helpful for analysis later on"?
Xay - Town
Oka - Scum
Flubby - Scum
Scrambles - Maybe Scum?
Rest - Likely town, only time will tell.- ProHawk
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In post 160, Flubbernugget wrote:Does that answer your question
You also skirted my accusation/question about you not having voted anyone at this juncture.- ProHawk
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In post 147, Flubbernugget wrote:Scum. But the game is 6 pages long right now so null read atm.
Pretty sure that you said this about me...
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In post 174, Flubbernugget wrote:Also noted that you say nothing about NM doing this.
Just going to clear this up real quick-like
In post 14, ProHawk wrote:Overzealous voting.
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In post 201, Xayzeck wrote:what did you hope to achieve with these questions, and how would they help you figure out whether they were town/scum?
Flubber was being very non-committal, so I asked him what he commits to. I was hoping to get some reads out of him, but he just came back with a generic answer. Same with Oka, I wanted him to provide some reads, but he also came back with a generic answer. Both responses look scummy to me. Why didn't you get anything out of them?- ProHawk
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You realize that your top scum-read is top scum-reading your #2 and #4... lol. That was almost a good try?- ProHawk
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Also, explain to me how that question was hard?
Players X, Y, and Z are lurking.
Players A, B and C are posting a lot and being active.
I ask, do you think scum resides in group X, Y, and Z or A, B and C?
If you have town-reads on A, B, and C then clearly your answer would be in the lurking group. If you have scum-reads on player A and B then you would answer in the active group. If you have gut scum reads on player Y and a scum read on player B then you would answer both. Its not rocket science dude.- ProHawk
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In post 238, roseylily wrote:What makes you think that one of kyndy/me
I am town, and I doubt all town are on me at this point, considering the reason I am being voted is the buzz-word.
In post 238, roseylily wrote:and one of oka/flubber is scum?
This is based on them both being lead-wagons while I am being pushed as a counter-wagon to them both. Coupled with reasons I have already given for my scum-reading them.- ProHawk
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In post 237, Flubbernugget wrote:Prohawk have you explained your scumread on rose?
Its basically OMGUS. I don't think I actually stated an actual scum-read on her, its just probability POE.- ProHawk
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I am going to help you out here a little because I don't think you understand the driving force of wagons.
Wagons are driven by scum. Innately. Because they have inside knowledge on who is town, and who is scum. They have to drive wagons, or force town to herd in specific directions to survive. Town don't intentionally (or at least shouldn't) drive wagons because they are clueless. The ideal play for town is to evaluate whom out of the group is most likely exhibiting characteristics of scum without following or leading the herd so to speak.- ProHawk
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In post 259, scrambles wrote:Why? @prohawk
I assume this question is in Re: to Kndy and four votes.
Is there any reason why you don't have a problem with it?- ProHawk
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Yes, scrambles, I can put it into words, and I will. But I wanted to see your thought process before I give you my thoughts. Even if its laziness at unvoting, its EXTREMELY anti-town at best.
There are only two scum. If you have four votes in play, you are contributing to AT LEAST two town-deaths, and that is best-case scenario that you have your other two votes on scum. The other problem is when I try and evaluate voting patterns and motivations. Its too hard to see because which of the four votes are "real" votes, or stated in a better manner, which one of the four votes does kndy ACTUALLY want dead? Its impossible to tell. She could be tossing a vote out on a scum-partner while pushing three other mis-lynches in order to refer back and say "hey guys I voted scum D1!"- ProHawk
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Rose, here are my thoughts do far. ..
The unlimited voting is inherently anti town, the advantage in this setup for town is the double day consecutive lynch. We have the ability to judge a lynch, lynch, get a flip and base our second lunch off information from the first without having to lose someone to a night kill. Votes are important because it's a physical way to judge motivation. So to answer your question, it's in our best interest to have no more than two votes in play at a time. If you have more than two, it says to me you either aren't paying attention/don't understand what you are doing or you aren't actually genuinely scum hunting. - ProHawk
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