Micro 382 - CREDIMVS PAVONI DEORVM (Game Over!)

[Wake1]

Keep talking, Scripten, you liar.

If you actully believed a thing you said you'd put actions behind your words and vote, like Asher did.

[Scripten]

Yes, because laying votes immediately in LyLo is incredibly town-sided. Just like quicklynching and rolefishing, amirite?

[vettrock]

Wake

: Tier is probably town. You should put more effort/energy elsewhere.

Given BBT's flip as cop, I'm going to call this an innocent reading on Tiershift. This was a post early in D2. It is obvious he didn't have guilty on someone, or he would have pushed them instead of Josh.

That to me means wake is scum. Asher is the most likely partner at this point since we are in LyLo, there isn't much reason to bus.

[Asher Kendrell]

Kinda hard to say that it was quicklynching compared to day 1. And given that our cop died night 2, I don't think any rolefishing really happened.

[Scripten]

And given that our cop died night 2, I don't think any rolefishing really happened.

Exactly how in the world could you (expect us to) think that? I would go so far as to say the reason BBT was singled out was because of his reaction to Wake88's rolefishing.

[Wake1]

Then Tiershift IS Town.

Scripten and Vettrock are the Scum!

We've solved it, but we need Tiershift's vote to make it happen.

Once Scripten flips Scum, we hyperlynch Vettrock.

Otherwise you must lynch me, because that's the only other option I see here.

[vettrock]

And given that our cop died night 2, I don't think any rolefishing really happened.

Exactly how in the world could you (expect us to) think that? I would go so far as to say the reason BBT was singled out was because of his reaction to Wake88's rolefishing.

BBT was asked to claim, and refused, and then that night he ends up dead? Yeah I think that is definately rolefishing.

With respect to you and your views, I'm not so sure about that. There are some things from him I'd like answers on. If you feel he is Town, and that I should actually put effort and energy elsewhere, I think the best path towards that would be to peruse the post I made regarding him, and point out exactly why my observations are flawed and/or unhelpful. I'm not sure what to think of you implying I should look elsewhere (if that is not true, please correct me).

I'm 100% saying you should look elsewhere (Hint: Josh).

I don't explain town-reads, it's unhelpful. The only reason I went into some detail on Scripten is because it was a developed read, from scum to town, and I don't mind explaining my thoughts/progression in doing so.

I feel Tier has been town since near the beginning of the game.

We may have to agree to disagree.

Another indication that BBT probably had an innocent read on Tiershift. 100% is a pretty strong read from a cop.

Since Tiershift is town, this means wake88 is 100% scum. I would say Asher is about 80% certain to be scum.

[Scripten]

Do you feel powerful when you swing that big, bold text around, Wake88 Because it really looks like a whole lot of overcompensation for a lack of evidence backing you up.

[Wake1]

We'll let Tiershift decide.

I'm not getting into it with two people I KNOW are confirmed Scum from my point of view.

[Scripten]

We'll let Tiershift decide.

I'm not getting into it with two people I KNOW are confirmed Scum from my point of view.

Ah, come on. It'll be fun. You can ad hominem, evade questions, and flaunt your emotional, scummy BS and I can cheer you on while you help the town win by playing so poorly.

[TierShift]

I'm VT.

Wake is probably scum.

I'm gonna look for crumbs.

[TierShift]

Wait. I missed the last 3 pages.

Wake is right.

VOTE: scripten

[TierShift]

I'm thinking I'm the only one who saw BBT's actual crumb?

[The Bulge]

Votecount 3.3 (Final)

Asher Kendrell (0) -

Scripten (3) -

Asher Kendrell, Wake88, TierShift

(LYNCH)

Wake88 (0) -

TierShift (0) -

vettrock (0) -

Not Voting -

Scripten, vettrock

With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2014-09-24 17:33:00) (September 24).

[The Bulge]

You really think this is it? Have you done it? Have you finally purged a sinner from our midsts?
...
Oh dear. What have you done to my poor Earl?

Scripten,

Town Earl

, has been lynched Day 3

Alright, now no need to get rowdy. Put those guns down. Oh my...

vettrock,

Vanilla Townie

, and Wake88,

Vanilla Townie

, have been endgamed Day 3

I see now where I went wrong. You were

all

impure. I had it all backwards. Congratulations, you two. You truly did our world a service. Welcome to the Holy Order of Pavo Deorum.

Asher Kendrell,

Mafia Goon

, and TierShift,

Mafia Goon

, survive to Day 3 and win!

[The Bulge]

Night 1

BlueBloodedToffee investigates Scripten (Not Mafia)
TierShift kills Mr_Ree

Night 2

BlueBloodedToffee investigates vettrock (Not Mafia)
Asher Kendrell kills BlueBloodedToffee

Roles (Setup B)

BlueBloodedToffee -

Town Cop

Asher Kendrell -

Mafia Goon

Josh_B -

Vanilla Townie

Mr_Ree -

Vanilla Townie

Scripten -

Town Earl

Wake88 -

Vanilla Townie

TierShift -

Mafia Goon

vettrock -

Vanilla Townie

Wolfy -

Vanilla Townie

[The Bulge]

Scum PT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=58857
Dead PT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=58966

Thank you for playing, everyone! Congratulations, Mafia team.

Most of my comments are in the Dead PT.

Feel free to leave any comments about the moderation here!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Tier nailed me.

I'm extremely disappointed with my play this game. Tier you played great, the ONLY time I got suspicious of you was towards the end of D2. You even realized how I was working out the wagon.

Well played guys.

Thanks for modding Bulge. Really enjoyed the game.

[Wake1]

Well, that's disappointing.

I did not like feeling like I was being tag-team manipulated by Scripten and Vettrock to go ahead and vote Josh, when I did feel he was Town.

[Wake1]

Yeah... god damn it. Now I'm upset with myself. It's just a game, sure, but I sure did get hoodwinked in this one.

W3ith this game, I really need to modify my play. It was super-difficult trying to get a good read on everyone.

[Asher Kendrell]

Nicely played everyone!

[Wake1]

Thanks, but I need to improve. I've been playing for years, and there's still so many subtle things to improve upon.

Definitely not casting any votes in LyLo early on ever again. I figured if Scripten was Scum I could try and preempt his attempt to have me mislynched.

[Wake1]

I was wrong in my reads, but.... so was practically everyone else. This game was tough.

[TierShift]

Thanks, but I need to improve. I've been playing for years, and there's still so many subtle things to improve upon.

Definitely not casting any votes in LyLo early on ever again. I figured if Scripten was Scum I could try and preempt his attempt to have me mislynched.

That's a good thing to always remember!

[TierShift]

Thoughts about the setup:

I know the setup is very similar to the old newbie setup, but especially as scum you notice that the four possible setups aren't equal in balance. The setups with cop are much better for town than the ones without. Doc and Earl don't differ much in strength, unless you get TWO succesful protects, which is highly unlikely. Other than that, they're just named townies.

At the start of day 2, I thought asher would be the lynch of the day. Had he been lynched, a doc would hardly have been an issue, while failing to.hit a cop N2 would pretty much mean game over.

Even on day 3 if we had missed the cop at night and instead killed wake, BBT would have the scumteam pegged. While having done a good job as scum and having mislynched twice. A doc wouldn't have meant trouble.

So uh, maybe try to make the different setups more balanced if you want to run it again. Well modded tho!