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Post Post #6679  (isolation #400)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:26 pm

except I'm not a wolf.
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Post Post #6684  (isolation #401)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:35 pm

@Pine - Thor was right. I feel the only possible partner I could have as a wolf is T S O.
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Post Post #6686  (isolation #402)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:38 pm

In post 6685, Pine wrote:
In post 6681, Nero Cain wrote:pine unvoting Slandaar is :igmeou: I'm pretty convinced that scum is Pine/Boon/Slandaar though

vote:no lynch

town needs a crosskill anyways so a no lynch doesn't hurt us.

If both Mafia and Wolves shoot a Townie, Wolves win. If Mafia gets shot but not Wolf, we go into 2:3 LYLO, where any Townie misvoting is a quicklynch loss, and even a wolf lynch puts us in 1:2 LYLO, same problem. Only if a Wolf is shot but not Mafia do we end up with decent odds for Town with 1:3:1


Incorrect. If only mafia is shot, that means mafia killed a townie. It's end gamed.
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Post Post #6691  (isolation #403)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:49 pm

it's not an autolose if we lynch a townie, Nero. only if we hit mafia. I don't know what you are talking about.
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Post Post #6694  (isolation #404)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:57 pm

In post 6692, Pine wrote:@NC: It was an angle I hadn't thoroughly investigated, your points were original and new, and coming from obvTown, I'm going to seriously consider them.

I considered them, and dismissed it. You're incorrect, but your perspective is clearly Town

PE: Your right that it isn't AUTOlose if we mislynch a Townie, but it would absolutely require a double crosskill. If either side kills a Townie, Town can't win. It's the next worse thing


Also, not true, but I think I should stop speaking about this matter now.

Anywho, Slandaar's not mafia. He's wolf.
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Post Post #6695  (isolation #405)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:58 pm

@Nero - you were voting him earlier, why not hammer now?
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Post Post #6707  (isolation #406)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:23 pm

Nero...we want Slandaar...T S O/Myself/Thor are all voting him. Are you really not paying attention? It's on you to hammer it.
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Post Post #6711  (isolation #407)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:49 pm

In post 6708, Pine wrote:@Slandaar: The fact that NC isn't loll hammering you when he's got plenty of plausible cause pretty well proves he's not a wolf


False. Nero/Slandaar is possible as a wolf team.
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Post Post #6712  (isolation #408)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:50 pm

@Pine - if Slandaar flips wolf, who would you say his partner is?
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Post Post #6726  (isolation #409)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:36 pm

if anything that's proving Slandaar is a wolf. Slandaar was hard on Reinoe the entire time. Even before the guilty. I find it hard to believe he's mafia. Also, i've had more strength and urgency in scum hunting than Slandaar has toDay. Also, I have been voting Slandaar for a while now, I'm constantly attacking Nero for being mafia, so I don't get the doing almost nothing but attacking you thing. If anything, I'm defending myself and TSO. I dont think ive defended Thor really. If Nero isn't mafia, Thor is.
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Post Post #6727  (isolation #410)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:37 pm

Pine's case proved Slandaar is more wolf than mafia, really.
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Post Post #6735  (isolation #411)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:20 pm

I wasn't getting mafia vibes from Slandaar really, so if he flips mafia I'm going to truly be surprised.
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Post Post #6736  (isolation #412)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:20 pm

Wolf makes sense.
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Post Post #6737  (isolation #413)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:25 pm

In post 6732, Pine wrote:Well shit

Is Nero a wolf after all?

Good game Town :(


This is really fake, though. By the way, when Slandaar flips wolf, we lynch this tomorrow. Hell, mafia needs to just put this doggy down.
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Post Post #6739  (isolation #414)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:40 pm

Nero's probably actually the biggest wildcard for me. I can see him potentially in any alignment at this point. But by POE, yes, I think he's mafia.

Pine is 100% Not Mafia.
Thor/TSO could be mafia.
I think Slandaar is a wolf due to POE by partner association.
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Post Post #6741  (isolation #415)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:59 pm

I italicized could, to give Nero a slight benefit of the doubt. I'm pretty damn certain Nero is mafia. Like...95%. Then Thor 4.5%. You 0.5%.
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Post Post #6743  (isolation #416)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:06 pm

I still feel Nero was being more survivalistic toDay. I'm pretty confident this game isn't over. And if it is...well, damn.
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Post Post #6744  (isolation #417)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:52 am

@AegorModMan - in case it is misssed, (don't think it is, just reassuring because there's been a lot of pages), Slandaar has been hammered.
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Post Post #6755  (isolation #418)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:23 pm

@Wolf - shoot me.
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Post Post #6815  (isolation #419)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:52 pm

Well, if you guys didn't notice yesterDay, I was trying to act like I was mafia so the real mafia would be semi obvious to me. Also, I was trying to draw the wolf night kill. Obviously a wolf tried shooting me, meaning if Pine's scum, he is mafia, as he was unable to shoot at me.
All things lead back to Nero...

VOTE: Nero
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Post Post #6816  (isolation #420)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:54 pm

Also, my bulletproof claim from a wolf perspective seeing me as mafia makes it seem like I lied about my BP.
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Post Post #6817  (isolation #421)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:56 pm

As much as I don't want to, I'm starting to believe the 3 remaining town is Thor/Pine/Myself.
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Post Post #6818  (isolation #422)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:56 pm

I'm insinuating Nero is a wolf, T S O is mafia.
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Post Post #6823  (isolation #423)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:29 pm

Well...if it helps, I'm not sold on you as it. I'm just theorizing. I want Nero lynched toDay, and possibly Pine if I can't completely convince myself to town read him.
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Post Post #6827  (isolation #424)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:59 pm

In post 6826, Thor665 wrote:@TSO - we need to start a fan club based around having no fething clue what Boon is thinking and saying at any given moment.


Dibs on president.
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Post Post #6830  (isolation #425)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:04 am

I don't know what else I could say.
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Post Post #6856  (isolation #426)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:25 pm

@Pine - who's the wolf, who's the mafia? I'm really starting to lean Nero-Wolf (shot me), and TSO-Mafia (shot you).
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Post Post #6857  (isolation #427)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:27 pm

Also, there was incentive to try and get them to shoot me as town. If we hadn't lynched a wolf yesterDay, it was a decent backup because if wolf shot the actual mafia, we would have been assumingly end gamed from yesterDay's perspective.
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Post Post #6864  (isolation #428)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:11 pm

Nero flat out thought I was scum, T S O. I pushed Slandaar epicly hard at the end, would I bus my own partner that much, Pine? Also, I was shot by a wolf. I thought if anything I would be mafia sides looking as if I was faking my BP claim. That obviously isn't the case, now. I'm not mafia, and it makes no sense for me to be a wolf.
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Post Post #6872  (isolation #429)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:40 am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. NERO SAID HE LEAD THE SLANDAAR WAGON!!!! Funny. I lead that wagon with T S O right there as well.
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Post Post #6873  (isolation #430)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:41 am

You tried reaction testing by voting your buddy, Nero. You invited and decided to push ME! I was the first name on the Slandaar lynch, end day. You were the last, and only because you had to.
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Post Post #6887  (isolation #431)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:03 am

In post 6772, Aegor wrote:
:right: [4]Slandaar: Boonskiies, T S O, Thor665, Nero Cain -- LYNCH
[1]Nero Cain: Slandaar
[1]Thor665: Pine



This is all the proof I need to back up my leading of Slandaar's wagon. Nero brought it out to the very end, mainly trying to get either myself or Thor lynched, or trying to get that no lynch.
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Post Post #6888  (isolation #432)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:12 am

Nero limited power role wolf shot Pine last night. Pine, mafia goon, was jailed and kept alive, and also was unable to make a kill because of it. this is actually more likely what happened.
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Post Post #6889  (isolation #433)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:17 am

In post 6203, Pine wrote:Fuck it

I am a Mafia Goon

Lynch me and Town loses

Thor + Boon



Yeah, I think this might have actually been a real claim. I know I'm flip flopping around, guys, but I'm just thinking of all possibilities. I don't see this coming from a town perspective, and I am wanting to lynch Pine toDay over Nero.

VOTE: Pine

Also, Thor, you should definitely state who you are going to jail toNight. It'll most definitely help us out tomorrow, even if you ended up dying.
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Post Post #6893  (isolation #434)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:21 am

Unvote

I'll wait for your reasoning.
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Post Post #6897  (isolation #435)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:24 am

I don't believe I really ever interacted with Scripten. He was dead before I really did anything in this game, bar my day 2 spike in activity. Also, the majority of yesterDay, I was saying Pine and Slandaar are wolves. Pine and Slandaar are wolves. I couldn't get Pine lynched, so I moved on to Slandaar. I was correct; he was a wolf. Why would I have accepted the idea of lynching Slandaar, or why would Nero saying Slandaar and I are buddies with no reasoning make me want to vote Slandaar?
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Post Post #6898  (isolation #436)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:34 am

In post 6016, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 5925, Slandaar wrote:I will claim after Pine.

Pine/Thor/Boon. Pine maf, Thor, Boon wolf.

Seems really good.



I'm beginning to feel a Slandaar/Pine scum wolf team, actually. By saying Pine is mafia, if we truly end up believing that, we will absolutely not lynch Pine today, or we lose the game. Also, Thor and myself are the easiest two to try and mislynch. it makes sense from a wolf perspective.

In post 6070, Boonskiies wrote:HOLY FUCK IT'S THOR AND SLANDAAR!

unvote

In post 6125, Boonskiies wrote:TSO, I will not be clearing Slan or Nero.

In post 6158, Boonskiies wrote:Thor/Slandaar/Nero does not make up the wolf buddies, as they would have hammered you and won. I'm really confident with my vote.

In post 6167, Boonskiies wrote:I don't see how you can possibly be mafia.

@Thor - the wolf buddies aren't both in that group of 3. One of the three of you are pines partner, though.

In post 6198, Boonskiies wrote:Pine/Slandaar are wolves; Nero is mafia. End of story. Let's end this game.

In post 6240, Boonskiies wrote:If Slandaar/Nero are the wolf team, I'm gonna flip a lid.

In post 6264, Boonskiies wrote:I'm willing to believe it's Thor and Slandaar. I'm not voting yet, though.

In post 6303, Boonskiies wrote:boon-town
tso-town
pine-wolf
slandaar/thor-wolf
slandaar/nero-mafia

In post 6393, Boonskiies wrote:Is Slandaar still not claiming? :roll:

In post 6394, Boonskiies wrote:@slandaar - that's great, but Pine's not mafia.

In post 6425, Boonskiies wrote:@Pine - what are your thoughts on Slandaar?

In post 6487, Boonskiies wrote:Anyone else think it's weird how Pine says vote me yet he's voting Thor?

VOTE: Slandaar

Unfortunate if Nero/Thor is actually wolf. :/

In post 6489, Boonskiies wrote:Again, I believe Slandaar and Pine are wolves. I've been stating I believe Nero is mafia since day 2. I fail to see how you possibly could say I think Slandaar is mafia. I'm town reading TSO, of course I'm going to from a town mind set.

In post 6498, Boonskiies wrote:Although, the fact that wolves haven't pounced on Slandaar shows that he is not mafia, I believe.

In post 6517, Boonskiies wrote:If anything, this most likely shows that Pine/Slandaar are the same alignment, and Thor/Boon are most likely the same alignment. Difference is, Thor and I are both town.

In post 6524, Boonskiies wrote:
This was really just one point that Thor's reasoning is completely lacking when it comes to why Boon/Pine are wolf/mafia.


Sliiiiiiiiiiip. He thinks I'm mafia, and Pine's a wolf. The actual wolf got caught up.

In post 6525, Boonskiies wrote:I've actually become more comfortable with a Slandaar lynch than a Pine one.

In post 6537, Boonskiies wrote:Now Slandaar thinks I'm mafia instead of a wolf. Hilarious.

Also, I have been saying Slandaar/Pine for the longest time; I will happily join a Pine lynch.

In post 6541, Boonskiies wrote:How is anything Slandaar said different from my town play?

In post 6560, Boonskiies wrote:Also, I'm not being super lynch happy. I'm only willing to lynch Slandaar or Pine. I really don't care who at this point. I'm ready for the next step in this game, and for it to be done (even though I am enjoying it). 22 units this semester. I have gotten my mind made up on Slandaar/Pine that there isn't anyway I'm willing to vote anyone else despite what anyone will say.

In post 6562, Boonskiies wrote:What happened to your Slandaar read?

In post 6564, Boonskiies wrote:I was hesitant to lynch Slandaar. You thought Slandaar and I were wolf buddies. The fact that I'm voting Slandaar now, or that you think I'm partners with someone else, makes my hesitance towards Slandaar earlier as a reason moot. As a wolf, why would I be hesitant against voting Slandaar if he's not my buddy? There was no reason as a wolf for me NOT to vote Slandaar, especially after giving a possibility to his lynch. I wasn't necessarily ready for the day to be over then. I am now.

In post 6567, Boonskiies wrote:Why not vote Slandaar or Pine then? They're in your grouping.

In post 6579, Boonskiies wrote:I dropped Thor today, because if he's anything, he's mafia. Unless there's that possibility you and him are the wolf team...in that case. Fuck. But yeah, I see Thor more as potential mafia than wolf. I'm town reading TSO for toDay. And I know I'm town. From my perspective, I see it as one of either you, Nero, or Thor is scum. I do see a possibility of the town being Nero/TSO/Boon. Honestly, I'm occasionally getting town reads from Pine, which sucks, because I'm probably going to be the one to cost town the game for one reason or another. Which is why my vote is on Slandaar, and will probably stay there. I get absolutely no town reads from him.

In post 6581, Boonskiies wrote:The potential town teams I see are Nero/TSO/Boon, Thor/TSO/Boon, Pine/TSO/Boon, or Nero/Thor/Boon. Slandaar's the only one who doesn't come up ever in that.

In post 6582, Boonskiies wrote:From my perspective, that makes him a wolf. Mafia has to be in one of my potential town teams.

In post 6600, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 6593, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6589, Slandaar wrote:Thor/Boon cannot both be town I do agree with that 6PR is going to be too much.


In post 6589, Slandaar wrote:11 VT

So if you think Boons and Thor are scum....which VT do you think is lying and why.



Good catch, nero. So Slandaar legitimately scum slipped this time.

In post 6626, Boonskiies wrote:Slandaar's going for Nero now. Awesome. Pine's trying to talk people out of it. Awesome.

In post 6639, Boonskiies wrote:Nero and Slandaar can't both be town. And Slandaar's not mafia.

In post 6661, Boonskiies wrote:Welp, when Slandaar flips wolf, I think it's pretty obvious Pine is the partner, with the slight possibility that it's Nero.

In post 6707, Boonskiies wrote:Nero...we want Slandaar...T S O/Myself/Thor are all voting him. Are you really not paying attention? It's on you to hammer it.

In post 6711, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 6708, Pine wrote:@Slandaar: The fact that NC isn't loll hammering you when he's got plenty of plausible cause pretty well proves he's not a wolf


False. Nero/Slandaar is possible as a wolf team.

Damn, i just epicly multiquoted but it didn't show up when I tried to post. A LOT of my ISO from yesterDay, and SO MUCH OF IT is me against Slandaar. Just check my ISO and it's obvious.
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Post Post #6899  (isolation #437)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:34 am

Oh, damn. there it is. HAHA!!!
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Post Post #6900  (isolation #438)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:38 am

In post 6726, Boonskiies wrote:if anything that's proving Slandaar is a wolf. Slandaar was hard on Reinoe the entire time. Even before the guilty. I find it hard to believe he's mafia. Also, i've had more strength and urgency in scum hunting than Slandaar has toDay. Also, I have been voting Slandaar for a while now, I'm constantly attacking Nero for being mafia, so I don't get the doing almost nothing but attacking you thing. If anything, I'm defending myself and TSO. I dont think ive defended Thor really. If Nero isn't mafia, Thor is.

In post 6727, Boonskiies wrote:Pine's case proved Slandaar is more wolf than mafia, really.

In post 6735, Boonskiies wrote:I wasn't getting mafia vibes from Slandaar really, so if he flips mafia I'm going to truly be surprised.

In post 6736, Boonskiies wrote:Wolf makes sense.

In post 6737, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 6732, Pine wrote:Well shit

Is Nero a wolf after all?

Good game Town :(


This is really fake, though. By the way, when Slandaar flips wolf, we lynch this tomorrow. Hell, mafia needs to just put this doggy down.

Nero mafia could have also actually shot the doggy that is Pine.
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Post Post #6901  (isolation #439)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:39 am

So yeah, I need to stop second guessing myself. Nero/Pine are the remaining scum.
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Post Post #6902  (isolation #440)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:40 am

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #6921  (isolation #441)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:10 pm

In post 6918, Nero Cain wrote:Well I've told you. I'm town and Pine is scum. I don't like TSO that much as wolf from Scripten's interactions or mafia thanks to Csareo's OMGUS attack. Which literally leaves you and Boon. So...not really sure why you are making this out like its so hard to understand?



THEN LET'S VOTE PINE!!!!
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Post Post #6924  (isolation #442)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:21 pm

except when he flips scum, it is needed. I don't know what else I can say to even push for this lynch, as it was all said yesterDay. Remember yesterDay? When he was 100% scum to people?
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Post Post #6935  (isolation #443)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:24 pm

I'm actually unsure why Nero is calling my scum actually.
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Post Post #6938  (isolation #444)  » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:37 am

@Pine - Who do you want to lynch?
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Post Post #6944  (isolation #445)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:44 am

False, Nero. I've been pushing you since Day 2...
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Post Post #6945  (isolation #446)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:46 am

Also, I tend not to have any association tells with buddies as scum. I'd bus a partner in an instant if I feel it would be best.
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Post Post #6948  (isolation #447)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:50 am

Well, I really don't know what else I can say. I'm town. I get lynched, and the games over. How would you try and defend yourself in this situation?
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Post Post #6952  (isolation #448)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:20 am

VOTE: Nero Cain

FMP, he's the only one that doesn't make any sense of being town now. I don't see any possibility where he isn't scum. Pine for me has at least a sliver of chance for town. I'm losing interest in this game, as there's really nothing else to say at this point.
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Post Post #6956  (isolation #449)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:47 am

Is there potential for a Scum Thor RB, where he can't kill if he uses the ability? That could explain the night actions last night. He chose to RB Pine, instead of killing. Which means the other scum would have shot me. Hmm...just talking hypothetics. I don't know what to think anymore.
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Post Post #6958  (isolation #450)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:54 am

That's what I said, Pine...
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Post Post #6959  (isolation #451)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:55 am

Minus the boon wolf part.

By the way, I'm only a 1-shot BP, if that does anything to help persuade.
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Post Post #6961  (isolation #452)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:27 pm

Fair enough. I like that reasoning.
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Post Post #6965  (isolation #453)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:48 pm

Vote count shows that id more mafia than wolf. I don't see how I could possibly be a wolf. And BP doesn't make sense as mafia.
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Post Post #6982  (isolation #454)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:16 am

I explained that I was trying to soft claim mafia yesterDay to take a wolf shot, and to dissuade mafia from shooting me. Even if my BP had been used, I would have died and helped confirm some reads on people.
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Post Post #6993  (isolation #455)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:10 pm

In post 6986, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6982, Boonskiies wrote:I explained that I was trying to soft claim mafia yesterDay to take a wolf shot, and to dissuade mafia from shooting me. Even if my BP had been used, I would have died and helped confirm some reads on people.

If either you or Pine are town - I really am fascinated by the idea you got in your heads that claiming scum in thread somehow translates to 'good town play'.

Hint: it is not.


No one ever said I make good town decisions. Remember my hammer on you in Ninja Mafia? That was HORRIBLE, especially because I was super town reading you the whole day. I was town. Granted, you flipped scum, but still. No one would say I make good town plays.
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Post Post #6996  (isolation #456)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:14 pm

Oh, I'm much better scum than I am town, haha. Mimicking my town play is easy.

Also, I second what Pine said. We do learn from it.
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Post Post #6999  (isolation #457)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:32 pm

Eh, I always hit scum as town for the most part in late game. Now I just have to figure out how to explain my reasonings.
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Post Post #7003  (isolation #458)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:50 pm

I'm ready to lynch.
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Post Post #7006  (isolation #459)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:57 pm

See, it's things like this that makes me want Nero lynched. He knows I want Pine lynched also. I'm okay with Nero or Pine toDay. This is the reason I didn't want Pine lynched on day 2 actually...this is the reason I was skeptical about lynching Pine.
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Post Post #7007  (isolation #460)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:01 pm

In post 5574, Boonskiies wrote:If this wasn't multiball and Nero still had his vote on Iz there is no way I'd be voting Iz. I hate multiball.

VOTE: Iz

I've explained my reasoning toward Iz since the beginning of Day 2.

In post 5832, Boonskiies wrote:I had a reason for not wanting Pine lynched, but I can't seem to remember it now.



Nero voting people made me suspicious and paranoid because of the multiball.
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Post Post #7009  (isolation #461)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:09 pm

That's exactly my point.
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Post Post #7010  (isolation #462)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:10 pm

Fine.

VOTE: Pine

L-1. Pine's universally scum read at this point. Need to stop second guessing.
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Post Post #7012  (isolation #463)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:28 pm

:facepalm:
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Post Post #7015  (isolation #464)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:28 am

Unvote

Playing to my emotions in wanting to lynch Nero. Smart move.

I'll make the hammer, TSO or Thor. One of you, pick the lynch target.
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Post Post #7023  (isolation #465)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:36 pm

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #7025  (isolation #466)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:04 pm

I'm getting mislynched either way. If Pine flips wolf, expect scum to put forth a no kill, as I would totally try to frame me in this situation if I was scum.
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Post Post #7027  (isolation #467)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:40 pm

I flat out said I would hammer once someone made the second vote on Nero or pine. I had voted both of then toDay, and recently. Don't act surprised, and I don't see how it's scummy at all. There was nothing left to be said, everyone universally scum read him. Whatever.
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Post Post #7035  (isolation #468)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:21 am

If I'm not like confirmed super obvious town by now, there's no helping this town.
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Post Post #7036  (isolation #469)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:22 am

Not meant in a mean way; I actually feel we've played pretty well. Scum is doing well also. It's a good game really.
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Post Post #7048  (isolation #470)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:32 pm

I think it makes perfect sense for me to be a BP town. It causes confusion between the scum roles.
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Post Post #7050  (isolation #471)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:07 pm

No, because the wolf team is made up of:

Wolf 1-shot watcher
Wolf (assuming 1-shot) BP
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Mafia is made up of:

Mafia Even-Night Roleblocker
Mafia Odd-Night Rolecop

It doesn't make sense for mafia to have a BP as the 3rd role. Mafia would have significantly more power than wolves.
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Post Post #7051  (isolation #472)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:11 pm

Also, I've been on every single one of the wagons that lynched Mafia/Werewolf. Every single one of them.
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Post Post #7052  (isolation #473)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:13 pm

I don't necessarily think I've been derping around toDay. my reads have been rather strong as of late, and I have no reason to back down. I'd be dumb to not consider other possibilities as just that, possibilities.
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Post Post #7054  (isolation #474)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:24 pm

DrippingGoofball, Town 2-shot Vigilante Neighbor, Shiro, Town Neighbor, goodmorning, Town Tracker Neighbor, Aneninen, Town Neighbor, Boonskiies Town 1-shot BP Neighbor

Scripten, Werewolf Goon Neighbor, davesaz, Town Neighbor, T S O, Town Neighbor, Nero Cain, Town Neighbor

Egg, Town Neighbor, PeregrineV, Town Neighbor, Thor, Town Jailkeeper Neighbor


AxleGreaser, Vanilla Townie
The Fonz, Vanilla Townie
TierShift, Town Jack of All Trades (Bodyguard and Commuter),
beastcharizard, Town Prime-Night Cop,
flubbernugget, Mafia Odd-Night Rolecop,
reinoe, Mafia Even-Night Roleblocker
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From the looks of this, this setup does indeed look symmetrical. There should be a mafia goon neighbor, and it most likely is in Neighborhood #2.
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Post Post #7056  (isolation #475)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:26 pm

Yes, it does make sense. There is a JailKeeper and a 2 shot vig in this game. Not to mention, there is a JOAT who has a bodyguard and a commuter. It makes perfect sense.
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Post Post #7059  (isolation #476)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:32 pm

In post 7055, Thor665 wrote:
In post 7051, Boonskiies wrote:Also, I've been on every single one of the wagons that lynched Mafia/Werewolf. Every single one of them.

Nero has been also - thoughts?



I haven't ruled out T S O entirely. As much as I want to, I believe he may be playing a very strong scum game this time around. Although, we were able to check the set up spec a few days ago, and talked about it being symmetrical. It sure seems like it is. One of them have to be the mafia. I'm still betting it's Nero. I'm going to have to go back and analyze his votes.

It's multiball, so causing confusion with the NK's is key, especially fitting the Masquerade theme. My BP is a perfect counter to your jailkeeper, especially if your Role PM did specifically say that it can only stop 1-shot. Neighborhood #3, and Neighborhood #1 are similar. I'm seeing them both as all town. Also, if we combined them into one Neighborhood, it would make an even 4 Town Neighbors, and 4 PR's. This coincides with the 2 PR, 2 VT outside of the neighborhood. There are 2 scum in neighborhood #2. Everything has been symmetrical.
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Post Post #7061  (isolation #477)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:34 pm

Also, 4 Town/4 Scum outside of the neighborhoods, 2 scum/2 town in neighborhood #2. The 4's and 2's keep coming together.
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Post Post #7062  (isolation #478)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:36 pm

For what it's worth, Pine, I enjoyed playing with you quite a bit actually.
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Post Post #7066  (isolation #479)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:48 pm

DrippingGoofball, Town 2-shot Vigilante Neighbor, Shiro, Town Neighbor, goodmorning, Town Tracker Neighbor, Aneninen, Town Neighbor, Boonskiies Town 1-shot BP Neighbor

Scripten, Werewolf Goon Neighbor, davesaz, Town Neighbor, T S O, Town Neighbor, Nero Cain, Mafia Goon Neighbor

Egg, Town Neighbor, PeregrineV, Town Neighbor, Thor, Town Jailkeeper Neighbor


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TierShift, Town Jack of All Trades (Bodyguard and Commuter),
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flubbernugget, Mafia Odd-Night Rolecop,
reinoe, Mafia Even-Night Roleblocker
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Pine, Werewolf BP


Just want to see how this looks.

Yeah, that seems about right.
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Post Post #7067  (isolation #480)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:50 pm

Add Muffin as VT outside of a neighbor hood, forgot about the modkill. 5 Town outisde of neighborhoods, 5 in one neighborhood, 2 in N2, 3 in N3, which makes yet another 5. It's a symmetrical setup. I like it. It's pretty. Thor and I are confirmed Town.
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Post Post #7071  (isolation #481)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:18 pm

Why is everyone so hung up on that little statement? That's not even the main reason I was going for.
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Post Post #7078  (isolation #482)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:33 pm

DrippingGoofball[/color], Town 2-shot Vigilante Neighbor, Shiro, Town Neighbor, goodmorning, Town Tracker Neighbor, Aneninen, Town Neighbor, Boonskiies Town 1-shot BP Neighbor

Scripten, Werewolf Goon Neighbor, davesaz, Town Neighbor, T S O, Town Neighbor, Nero Cain, Mafia Goon Neighbor

Egg, Town Neighbor, PeregrineV, Town Neighbor, Thor, Town Jailkeeper Neighbor


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reinoe, Mafia Even-Night Roleblocker
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Pine, Werewolf BP



Oi...
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Post Post #7083  (isolation #483)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:51 pm

Stop using it is a reasoning now. It's not a reason. I was unaware of other people's things, it was just some random note I put out. I didn't even say it made me town, all I did was state that is what happened.
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Post Post #7085  (isolation #484)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:07 pm

Do I need a motive? I say a lot of things that don't necessarily have a motive for anything, why is this any different?
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Post Post #7091  (isolation #485)  » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:47 pm

I had a neighborhood conversation with myself to try and figure things out last night, and I'm pretty sure I'm confirmed town once Flubber flipped scum. I'll get into more detail about this once I get home tonight, after my rehearsal.
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Post Post #7092  (isolation #486)  » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:48 pm

Reasons being, it's annoying to quote on my phone.
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Post Post #7093  (isolation #487)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:02 pm

I haven't been home yet...
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Post Post #7095  (isolation #488)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:01 pm

I have classes until 5 Mon-Thursday, followed by rehearsal for the play I'm in, and oddly tonight I'm having a F2F mafia game night with BBmolla and friends. I'll get it in before that happens.
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Post Post #7098  (isolation #489)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:47 pm

Well, I mean, we can still discuss things. I just don't want to quote on my pine. Pretty much daveas's lynch had 9 people on it, and I highly doubt there was absolutely no mafia on it. TSO and I were voting Nero at the time, along with two other people. If TSO is indeed town, then that means there were 4 town on Nero the day Dave was lynched, and the only way There could be a mafia on that 9 person wagon would be if Nero is mafia, which would make sense.

Also, Flubber most likely role copped me due to me obviously soft claiming a PR day 1, so when mafia Reinoe came along, he could inno me. They knew that all I was was a 1 shot BP meaning they really didn't have to worry about anything.

Why would I have any incentive to stall as scum here? You are stalling just as much as anyone else; you aren't making a case, you're trying to force others to.
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Post Post #7099  (isolation #490)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:48 pm

I'm going to vote Nero toDay, bar a T S O epic scum slip.
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Post Post #7101  (isolation #491)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:04 pm

I'm confirmed town, so whatever.
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Post Post #7104  (isolation #492)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:12 pm

I'm incredibly confirmed town. And I was thinking of the wrong wagon reasoning. My Dave wagon I need to be at a computer to show.

@T S O - look at Nero's and Reinoe's interactions through Reinoe's ISO. It's super busy looking. I have a few posts in my neighborhood I posted so I would remember what to say today. Also, as scum, I had no reason to kill Thor. I would have no killed. I bet that mafia even knew that Thor was only an odd night Jailkeeper. Probably role copped him. I was super unaware, and I would have no killed like I said yesterDay, or would have killed T S O in the chance that Thor didn't jail me, like he said he would if pine flipped wolf, which he did. There was absolutely no reason for me to kill Thor last night as scum.
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Post Post #7110  (isolation #493)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Whatever. Lose the fucking game for town then.

VOTE: Nero

I've known this since day 2. There's no way I'm talking myself out of it. If T S O is scum, he deserves the win.
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Post Post #7109  (isolation #494)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Whatever. Lose the fucking game for town then.

VOTE: Nero

I've known this since day 2. There's no way I'm talking myself out of it. If T S O is scum, he deserves the win.
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Post Post #7111  (isolation #495)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:44 pm

Reinoe's 5224 seems like bussing. So does his 5222. He's trying to get Nero to help. 5169. The quote in 5145 seems like Nero is trying to help his buddy.

Reinoe's 4945 clears me!!!!!

5167 doesn't seem at all like T S O/Reinoe bussing.
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Post Post #7112  (isolation #496)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:48 pm

Another thing of note, Nero and Flubber have been very connected in the vote counts. Nero and Flubber were often voting te same person, and then after a while, when Flubber was under no pressure, Nero would just sit his vote there on him.
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Post Post #7113  (isolation #497)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:50 pm

I wasn't on the Reinoe wagon until the very end. I was the hammer. That is super unlike me not to bus early. I would never draw south attention to myself as scum. I do that as town.
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Post Post #7114  (isolation #498)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:52 pm

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Post Post #7115  (isolation #499)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:58 pm

Pine ended up knowing who mafia was at the end of yesterDay. He didn't say anything because the only reason he knew was because he was a wolf. He outted me as town. He didn't say his analysis after being lynched because it would ruin the integrity of the game because he would be picking a side. Him pushing himself town reading me if I was mafia ruins that integrity. I CANT be mafia, T S O...see this. Please. I am TOWNY mcfucking town town. Boon Townie Skiies. Town town townereee. Thor was on my side. Nero chose to keep you alive so he could mislynch me. Remember his whole Thor/Boonskiies, one of them has to be scum. If I was scum, from my perspective, killing Thor made no sense, as it would obviously push Nero to me. The fact that Nero's not even really pushing me right now after being so certain PROVES he is scum.
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Post Post #7116  (isolation #500)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:01 pm

We had our moment in Day 5, T S O...accept it. You know I'm town. It's just that paranoia that you have that if, by some chance, I was scum, and you voted Nero, you feel horrible. I get the paranoia. But that's not what is happening. I AM TOWN. We had a real town on town moment (unless you're screwing me over, obviously), and we can win this game...just don't vote me.
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Post Post #7117  (isolation #501)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:07 pm

I really hope the dead thread isn't yelling and freaking out at me for voting Nero...
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Post Post #7120  (isolation #502)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:33 am

I was pushing you before. I've felt you were mafia this entire game. MAFIA. Not wolf. The reason you weren't on my radar like day 5 is because we had to lynch a wolf. I've been under the impression you were mafia. I made that painfully obvious that is what I thought.
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Post Post #7121  (isolation #503)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:34 am

In post 7119, Nero Cain wrote:So like I said, Boons replies and "points" are absolutely ridiculous. As I said, I think they way he started pushing me day 2 AFTER I mentioned lynching him is pretty scummy. Its OMGUSY and survivalist. I secretly have it in the back of my mind that Boons is just this horrible and its not alignment indicative.

I also think that Thor did block Boons and this means TSO is scum. And if I'm right YAY but Boons has already thrown the game so :(


Scum slip trying to make reasoning. Thor was an odd night RB'er.
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Post Post #7135  (isolation #504)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:30 am

Ouch.
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Post Post #7136  (isolation #505)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:31 am

In post 7131, Nero Cain wrote:makes sense.

I had a niggle about you but I don't think I could have convinced Boons to vote you.


I almost voted him. There was a point where I completely thought T S O was scum yesterDay. Damn. I tunneled. :/
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Post Post #7172  (isolation #506)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:29 pm

In post 7167, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 7155, Pine wrote:but everything about the last couple was splendid.

yeah town played pretty well the last few days. I wish that Boons hadn't voted so early last day.


I think we were at the point for the game to be over with anyways. I didn't feel anything was going to change in the way we went about doing things. Neither of us were making a case on T S O.
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Post Post #7177  (isolation #507)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:53 pm

I thought you played just fine, Beast. You won the 1v1 with Reinoe.
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Post Post #7202  (isolation #508)  » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:44 am

At least my setup spec when I busted out all those numbers turned out to be correct, haha.
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