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Post Post #5  (isolation #0)  » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:40 pm

/confirm
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Post Post #30  (isolation #1)  » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:42 pm

Alina!!!!!! :)

But actually,

VOTE: Csareo
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Post Post #49  (isolation #2)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:44 am

unvote
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Post Post #50  (isolation #3)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:45 am

The claims on page 1 are most likely just fooling around. Why did cho claim mafia?

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Post Post #130  (isolation #4)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:14 pm

unvote

My cho and Csareo votes were RVS.

@Cho - I'm totally kidding. Haha.
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Post Post #167  (isolation #5)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:16 pm

In post 133, Garmr wrote:
In post 130, Boonskiies wrote:unvote

My cho and Csareo votes were RVS.

@Cho - I'm totally kidding. Haha.


That was pretty obvious why do you feel the need to clarify that?



He brought up the neighbor thing and how I reacted when I did the same thing there. He chose to out the neighborhood. He didn't think I was kidding, so it wasn't obvious.
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Post Post #186  (isolation #6)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:28 pm

De dum...de dum...de dum.
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Post Post #192  (isolation #7)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:32 pm

In post 187, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 166, Csareo wrote:Is it usual for TSO to become so hostile to questioning?

yes. He always seems so angry all the time. When I get monies I plan on hiring him a prostitute to help him chill. Or this could just be an in game persona, idk.

So when I first read the game I thought Csaro was a lil' to "try hard" but his wagon went rather fast and that worries me but I'd prob be ok with his vig.



I can also account for this. TSO is commonly hostile as town.
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Post Post #222  (isolation #8)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:01 pm

Oi...Boonskiies head hurts...:( Can't read anyone.
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Post Post #355  (isolation #9)  » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:42 am

Ugh, catching up.
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Post Post #464  (isolation #10)  » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:00 am

In post 423, Garmr wrote:
In post 420, Aneninen wrote:
Garrmrrmr wrote:Boonskies was the fact he needed to clarify that those were rvs votes.1 No one really asked him for it and it seems odd as town why you feel the need to say hey this is a rvs vote. He really hasn't done anything to strike me as town either.2 Also he dodged the csereo subject and didn't give his thoughts on it which made me feel uncomfortable.3


(1) Boonskiies was just being Boonskiies. I can tell you I've seen that. Even if you haven't come across with him, why is it a scumtell?
(2) So? Hasn't done anything to strike me as town either? This description fits quite a lot of people here.
(3) He has dodged almost every subject so far.

I'm not saying that he's town. He may be scum. But, NOT because of your reasons, Gammrnmhrm.


1.I'm not the only one who thought that was scummy (thor did) and how is that even a defence boon skies is boon skies. Like i said why would town need to clarify themselves.

2.Well if the only thing that strikes me are scum points thenwhy should I think his town?

3.You just made my point even stronger. Dodging subjects is town how?



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I'mmmmmmmm BOOOOOOONSKIIIIIIIEEEESSS. I'm a village idiot. Plain and simple. I talk of hypothetics, semantics, and usually hammer, and yet, I'm always town, never NK'd, and around day 3 I get really good, and catch the scum out and win the game.

Anyhoosies, I don't like that Cho keeps making the mafia claim joke, (he did it in neighborhood along with doing it on his first post). It looks like a thing mafia might do to seem like a joke, and make people go, "Oh lookie here, they are making a joke, HAHAHAHA, THAT'S FUNNY! He can't really be scum!" And that's scummy. Also, he is making up reasons for why would I as scum scenarios, like outing the neighborhood. Seems planned. YAWWWWW.


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Post Post #469  (isolation #11)  » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:11 am

In post 465, T S O wrote:The last d3 you were in with me you dayvigged town-me and set up a mislynch that day for us to auto-lose.



That was my first completed game, go easy on me. Haha. I've become a much better player since then, and shouldn't be taken lightly in this game. I'm far more competent than I like to let off.
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Post Post #470  (isolation #12)  » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:15 am

Also, that was the only game I've been in with you, I believe.
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Post Post #483  (isolation #13)  » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:19 am

In post 472, Izariael wrote:
In post 50, Boonskiies wrote:The claims on page 1 are most likely just fooling around. Why did cho claim mafia?

VOTE: Cho
In post 130, Boonskiies wrote:unvote

My cho and Csareo votes were RVS.

@Cho - I'm totally kidding. Haha.
In post 464, Boonskiies wrote:Anyhoosies, I don't like that Cho keeps making the mafia claim joke, (he did it in neighborhood along with doing it on his first post). It looks like a thing mafia might do to seem like a joke, and make people go, "Oh lookie here, they are making a joke, HAHAHAHA, THAT'S FUNNY! He can't really be scum!" And that's scummy. Also, he is making up reasons for why would I as scum scenarios, like outing the neighborhood. Seems planned. YAWWWWW.


Vote: Cho

Soooo.... you vote Cho because of her mafia claim joke. Then you unvote and say it was RVS. Then go back to voting her for the same reason as before, conveniently right around the time that others are boarding the Cho wagon? Eeeeehhh? :igmeou:



Yes, problem? It wasn't until after he started doing stuff that I decided to ISO and realize I've dealt with people do the same thing.
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Post Post #562  (isolation #14)  » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:06 pm

Don't push me to claim, please.
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Post Post #572  (isolation #15)  » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:45 pm

I'm almost positive it's multiball. My role basically implies it.
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Post Post #794  (isolation #16)  » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:23 pm

I'm in Cho's neighborhood.
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Post Post #890  (isolation #17)  » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:58 pm

Sorry, smash came out for 3ds. Haven't been home. I'm semi caught up, but I see some talk of me claiming.

My role makes a lot of sense if it's multiball, it doesn't necessarily confirm it. This being said, it's best for me not to claim toDay.
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Post Post #931  (isolation #18)  » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:15 pm

I haven't really gotten many reads. I keep falling behind and meaning to catch up, but I've been constantly missing a few pages. I'll have some time this week to go over things, and will come to eventually be a player in the game.
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Post Post #933  (isolation #19)  » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:37 pm

Are you suggesting that I'm policy lynch that you think I'm a fine lynch? I wasn't (still not completely) caught up with the thread so my posts couldn't have had actual content. There is absolutely no reason to lynch me other than a policy lynch at this point, so I'd like you to expand on your thought of why you feel I'd be a fine lynch please.
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Post Post #939  (isolation #20)  » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:45 am

Can you read please, Anenien? I've only read maybe 12 pages max, and periodically throughout the thread. I'm going to read the thread throughout on Tuesday, so until then I'll be posting as a lurker.
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Post Post #1099  (isolation #21)  » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:33 am

TSO ain't no scum.
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Post Post #1136  (isolation #22)  » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:57 pm

That A/B thing isn't alignment indicative really. That's how mislynches happens.
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Post Post #1253  (isolation #23)  » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:32 pm

There's a reason I soft claimed and not full claimed. I never usually can stay active during large games early phase, so I believed if I hinted at my role a little, it would cause some discussion and allow myself to not seem like I'm not putting anything forward. It has created discussion, and therefore I feel as it was a success. Day 2 I should be much more useful.
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Post Post #1367  (isolation #24)  » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:33 am

VOTE: Pere

I like Thor. I'm gonna trust him.
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Post Post #1402  (isolation #25)  » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:43 pm

@Script - it wasn't relevant anymore, and I mainly only voted Cho to give some pressure, but he disappeared. My day 1 reads in large games are blah.
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Post Post #1416  (isolation #26)  » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:21 pm

My neighborhood doesn't contain day talk either.
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Post Post #1697  (isolation #27)  » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:38 am

prod dodge. oopsie.
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Post Post #1809  (isolation #28)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:25 pm

In post 1803, davesaz wrote:
In post 1648, goodmorning wrote:
Barring that, can you point to anything concrete in the thread to explain any of your reads?

I'm going to pretend I don't know what you're implying.


Explain your reads. I don't listen to meta, I lynch the players who rely too much on it. Because only scum don't explain their reads.
Clear enough for you?



I feel it's the opposite actually. People feel more inclined to explain their reads as scum.
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Post Post #1813  (isolation #29)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:09 pm

I'm playing the way I am for a reason. This reason shall be brought out, and most likely the main subject of Day 2.
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Post Post #1814  (isolation #30)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:10 pm

@Garmr - Boon just being boon is completely relevant. I literally type whatever comes to my mind and don't really ever backspace. Plus, I'm basically just skimming through this thread.
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Post Post #1816  (isolation #31)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:20 pm

Why is it flawed? You going to kill me toNight?
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Post Post #1818  (isolation #32)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:27 pm

What QT?
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Post Post #1822  (isolation #33)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:39 pm

Do you think it's obvious I'm a cop? I'd like to know how many people think that's obvious.
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Post Post #1826  (isolation #34)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:02 pm

I believe Thor is town.
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Post Post #1832  (isolation #35)  » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:23 pm

That was my answer to your question. Thor is town. He be town, because he ain't scum.
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Post Post #2031  (isolation #36)  » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:17 am

catching up.
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Post Post #2332  (isolation #37)  » Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:12 pm

unvote

Catching up.
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Post Post #2534  (isolation #38)  » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:59 am

VOTE: Peregrine
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Post Post #2560  (isolation #39)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:18 pm

VOTE: Izariael
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Post Post #2563  (isolation #40)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:26 pm

Anenien was very prominent in our neighborhood last night, along with Iz. I claimed that I have a protective role in the thread, and also asked who people thought would be worth protecting. I did not claim any role, nor will I be doing so toDay. The way I said it made it seem like I had a limited use, which Iz pointed out in the thread also. I feel Iz thought he could get some town cred by not killing me after I claimed that I was a protective role, since he most likely thought I was just some noob not knowing what to do, and since he thought I slipped that I had a limited power role, he'd be fine not killing me. I expect there to be at least one scum in my neighborhood, since we are the biggest neighborhood, and Anen is now dead. Goodmorning, Shiro, and Iz have at least one scum there, and I'm banking on it being Iz.
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Post Post #2566  (isolation #41)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:31 pm

yes, the neighborhood qt.
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Post Post #2567  (isolation #42)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:37 pm

It's very believable that a 5 man neighborhood has at least one scum in it. I find Iz scummy.
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Post Post #2569  (isolation #43)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:42 pm

We also talked a lot about Egg, and how Egg targeted Peregrine yesterDay. We talked about how when there's only one person left in a neighborhood, the last immediately becomes an "auto FoS". I believe Egg was killed to setup a mislynch on Thor.
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Post Post #2570  (isolation #44)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:47 pm

Oh!!!

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Post Post #2572  (isolation #45)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:49 pm

Aneninen also mentioned some kind of plan to build a wagon on Iz, and he died. Someone in my neighborhood is scum.
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Post Post #2573  (isolation #46)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:54 pm

There's 12/21 players in a neighborhood, and there's probably a 2 person neighborhood that we don't know about yet. With the info we know, it makes sense that Neighborhood #3 (Egg,Thor,Pere) probably doesn't have scum in it due to it being an obvious setup for a mislynch. Neighborhood #2 (the one with 4 people) I have nothing to say of right now.
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Post Post #2575  (isolation #47)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:04 pm

Stop thinking I'm just voting because of the 'neighbor always has scum in it' idea. Actually READ MY POSTS. I said it is believable that there would be scum in a 5 man neighborhood, but I am not voting or deeming Iz scummy because of it. There was a lot of conversation in my neighborhood last night, and due to the outcomes of the night, there hasto be scum in my neighborhood.
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Post Post #2578  (isolation #48)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:10 pm

Yes, but anyone else would have known my role may be limited. Things during the night changed how I'm going to react to it. There isn't town cred for not killing me. There is for Iz. It's a mixture of everything that was said. I'm following Aneninen's lead throughout the talk of night 1, mixed in with my own reads. It's not just the not kill me thing. God damn, read the posts.
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Post Post #2579  (isolation #49)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:12 pm

In post 2577, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 2575, Boonskiies wrote:and due to the outcomes of the night, there hasto be scum in my neighborhood.


No there does not.

(It may be true there is very likely scum in the hood, but not because of some theory you just put forward.)

Especially not one that makes Iz scum because of information everyone in the hood had.


Stop fucking skimming. I've said that. I'm open to goodmorning/shiro voting as well. Iz just makes the most sense as of right now. I can't quote the freaking thread, so I'm going to wait until the three people in my neighborhood are posting so I don't have to deal with others' ignorance.
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Post Post #2581  (isolation #50)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:21 pm

This game is based off the neighborhoods. It's meant to be the main points of discussion.
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Post Post #2582  (isolation #51)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:21 pm

If it was random, it wouldn't.
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Post Post #2602  (isolation #52)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:44 pm

You realize good morning is in my neighborhood, right?
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Post Post #2607  (isolation #53)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:09 pm

I'm not answering it because you'll just come up with an ignorant response, so I decide that I'm better off just ignoring you so I don't get frustrated.
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Post Post #2610  (isolation #54)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:28 pm

It's definitely not a vigilante.
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Post Post #2616  (isolation #55)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:08 pm

@Garmr - Anen town read me by saying if anyone in our neighborhood is scum, it's most likely Iz.

Myself/Shiro/Iz/Goodmorning/Aneninen is my neighborhood.
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Post Post #2619  (isolation #56)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:34 pm

Thor's town. And it's multiball...
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Post Post #2622  (isolation #57)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:48 pm

Actually, the night changed how I felt about everything. People I've played with know I purposely play the Village Idiot, and am actually a lot more competent than I let off. But yeah, things went differently for me than expected, and I'll hopefully be able to go back on route soon. I actually wasn't paying much attention to this game before the night phase, due to me being too lazy to read everything, and I was super into my other game that had just finished. Anywho, yes.


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Post Post #2623  (isolation #58)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:49 pm

@Dave - which points are you referring to?
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Post Post #2625  (isolation #59)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:52 pm

I believe Anen was town reading me strongly.
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Post Post #2626  (isolation #60)  » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:58 pm

During the night Iz brought up how there is 'probably' a fourth neighborhood. He also said he is new to neighborhoods and doesn't know the ideal play in these situations. Those two don't match up. Why would you think there is probably a fourth neighborhood if you are new to them unless one of your scum partners are in it, and they told you during the night?
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Post Post #2634  (isolation #61)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:00 am

Axle's voting me even though I've made it pretty obvious that I'm a PR. Interesting. I'll hop on a wagon that starts on Axle if no one sees Iz as scum. @Flubb - Thank you. You also just got finished with my last scum game, and will be able to tell if I'm scum or not pretty easily probably.
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Post Post #2638  (isolation #62)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:33 am

beast, Iz is sheepable. Also, so is Axle.
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Post Post #2641  (isolation #63)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:50 am

Of course you do. ;p
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Post Post #2702  (isolation #64)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:51 pm

@Flubb - Iz started posting a lot in the neighborhood when Aneninen said he's the most likely to be scum in the neighborhood. Answering question from a few pages ago.
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Post Post #2709  (isolation #65)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:29 pm

@Flub - I wasn't really caught up, and I suck on Day 1s anyways, and I had Doctor Pepper's game to focus on, so I just waited to do anything. I completely planned on being more active come Day 2.
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Post Post #2710  (isolation #66)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:30 pm

@Tier - it's not disturbing. That's a perfectly acceptable vote.
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Post Post #2713  (isolation #67)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:55 pm

Shiro, thoughts on the neighborhood discussion about the neighborhood you are in?
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Post Post #2717  (isolation #68)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:59 pm

Hmm, I missed that post.

I'm not basing it off of Anen's reads alone. I was trying to test Iz during the night as well. And it's a mixture of everything that has happened during the night. He said he was new to neighborhoods, yet he also gave a detailed explanation on neighborhood strategy and balance.
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Post Post #2723  (isolation #69)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:39 pm

But what happens when Iz flips scum, Shiro?
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Post Post #2726  (isolation #70)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:49 pm

Which is why I believe he chose to kill Egg, as it goes with his thought process. I think we may have a second scum party/SK in our neighborhood. Thoughts on Goodmorning?
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Post Post #2731  (isolation #71)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:18 pm

Your thought process on the neighborhood from a new person's perspective doesn't sit right with me.

If there is a 4th neighborhood, specifically if you are a two person neighborhood, it would be wise to out yourself now. Iz's perspective makes me feel he KNOWS that there is a 4th neighborhood, and I believe his scum partner is in it.
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Post Post #2743  (isolation #72)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:02 pm

"While I suspect a 4th neighborhood (your corner of the Masquerade :right: 4 corners?) I have not seen confirmation or statement of it in the thread..."

You said this, Iz.

Aneninen then replied with what you are saying. It was you that brought it up.
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Post Post #2744  (isolation #73)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:03 pm

You aren't going to flat out say your scum partner is in the 4th neighborhood.
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Post Post #2745  (isolation #74)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:04 pm

And your scum partner wouldn't be the one to out the neighborhood. And the townie in that final neighborhood will probably be afraid that they might be lynched, so we're in a tricky situation.
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Post Post #2748  (isolation #75)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:11 pm

It isn't though. I'm trying not to say certain things due to the neighborhood aspect. Look at Goodmorning's last post, Shiro.
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Post Post #2749  (isolation #76)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:14 pm

last post in the neighbor thread.
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Post Post #2752  (isolation #77)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:32 pm

Good morning thinks you scum slipped also. Your speculation wasn't genuine.
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Post Post #2764  (isolation #78)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:51 pm

And that would be Iz. She scum slipped. Aneninen didn't want us to bring that up because of some plan or something. But we don't know how plan. Goodmorning pointed out the scum slip, Anen and I agreed with it.
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Post Post #2765  (isolation #79)  » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:52 pm

*his plan, not how.
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Post Post #2767  (isolation #80)  » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:35 am

The slip was different, but I'll let goodmorning bring up that.
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Post Post #2812  (isolation #81)  » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:21 pm

@Shiro - I believe that's something we were purposely let on due to Thor being setup as a mislynch. Another theory on that is the SK (which I do include as Multiball, GM...) took a shot in the three person neighborhood to narrow it down. I didn't think about this earlier, and I'm retracting my Thor town read.
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Post Post #2856  (isolation #82)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:05 pm

Just because his stances are weak doesn't mean he's scum necessarily. I mean, look at what I've done this game, and I'm 100% town.
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Post Post #2858  (isolation #83)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:10 pm

Alright then, let's vote Thor.

VOTE: Thor

Thor is the slot where I'm most curious about right now. Egg/Pere were town, and Egg was killed for a reason. A Thor lynch will tell us why.
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Post Post #2859  (isolation #84)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:11 pm

He's scummy, right? You've given good enough reasons.
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Post Post #2899  (isolation #85)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:30 pm

Well, I was basically just trying to see goodmorning's reaction from the vote. I've felt that it's hard to get into for me. A Thor lynch for me would be informational for me. People say he's scummy. They're paying more attention than I am. I'll believe you. I didn't really read like any of day 1. I just want a lynch to happen.
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Post Post #2902  (isolation #86)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:49 pm

Meh, what's a guy to do? I don't know what I'm doing right now. But Iz is scum. I'm just trying to draw a night kill.
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Post Post #2907  (isolation #87)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:54 pm

Town two shot bulletproof neighbor.
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Post Post #2911  (isolation #88)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:00 pm

I'm just not into this game enough to think things through. I got to the point where I wasn't going to get NK'd anyways, so me being bullet proof doesn't mean anything anymore. There was a reason for me trying to pointlessly claim a PR. I've never been NK'd before though.
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Post Post #2916  (isolation #89)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:54 pm

I thought my two shot BP made sense for it to be bulletproof. Why else would it be there? There's probably a SK in this game instead of a second scum faction.
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Post Post #2917  (isolation #90)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:55 pm

I'm a village idiot on town and a crazy mad genius on scum.
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Post Post #2918  (isolation #91)  » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:56 pm

In post 2916, Boonskiies wrote:I thought my two shot BP made sense for it to be bulletproof. Why else would it be there? There's probably a SK in this game instead of a second scum faction.



Meant to say multiball.
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Post Post #2922  (isolation #92)  » Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:33 am

Well, it doesn't really matter if I do tbh. I'm town. My posts are village idiot. Can't say I'm not consistent when it keeps happening. ;)
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Post Post #2960  (isolation #93)  » Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:49 pm

I don't care enough to explain anything on him. I was just trying to get people off Thor and onto Iz when I said he was town.
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Post Post #3036  (isolation #94)  » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:58 am

@axle - you fail to mention the most likely part of the quote you keep quoting. And honestly, look how much talk it's brought. It is the main point of toDay. And day 1 I had to act like I was a doctor or a vigilante so I could hopefully be shot during the night. I expected that to be good town play tbh...sorry, I'm not too strong a town player all the time. Check my scum game though. I am a strong scum player.
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Post Post #3093  (isolation #95)  » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:49 pm

I claimed my role at not even at L-2, how is that a panic claim? Also, it's not similar to the one I did my tracker fake claim, as I claimed that one day 1, in a game where I was much more active than I was here. If I was scum for one of my first times, don't you think I'd be far more interested in this game than I was day 1? Also, it got to the point where I wasn't going to draw a NK anymore , so me claiming does nothing to change that.

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Post Post #3095  (isolation #96)  » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:52 pm

The way Gamr is talking makes me feel he knows that I am actually telling the truth, and his role has some extra information. Who knows, maybe I was shot last night, and we have 3 kills a night in this game.
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Post Post #3139  (isolation #97)  » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:47 am

^ That.
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Post Post #3200  (isolation #98)  » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:33 pm

If I was a SK, why the hell would I try to draw the NK's? I'd want other people to die.
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Post Post #3225  (isolation #99)  » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:26 pm

@Reinoe - I claimed town 2 shot bulletproof neighbor because that is what my role pm says. I had like five votes on me for reasons. I was obviously trying to draw a NK. I'm not a good town player, let's be honest. I suck while I'm town and make no logic.
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Post Post #3250  (isolation #100)  » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:41 pm

Welp, ignorant people will be ignorant. I said once I realized I'm not going to be NK'd, I claimed. Do with it what you will.

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Post Post #3266  (isolation #101)  » Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:31 am

You guys act like I'm paying a lot of attention to this game...I've played tons of games with Reinoe actually. Have you ever played games with me? LlLllLlllllL.
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Post Post #3275  (isolation #102)  » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:57 am

Yeaaaaah...

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. (A la As You Like It)
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Post Post #3350  (isolation #103)  » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:36 pm

In post 3341, Izariael wrote:I'm still not sure that I buy Boon's claim. I really think we're dealing with multiball/SK setup, which makes bulletproof scum more probable, imo. I don't trust the claim but it does make sense with a lot of his behavior.



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Post Post #3352  (isolation #104)  » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:53 pm

In post 3346, Izariael wrote:
In post 3343, Shiro wrote:@Iz whose vote do u think is the most suspicious ?



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Post Post #3353  (isolation #105)  » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:54 pm

That post was an accident. Disregard.
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Post Post #3554  (isolation #106)  » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:59 pm

X, why not.
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Post Post #3610  (isolation #107)  » Tue Nov 11, 2014 3:32 pm

still here. catching up.
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Post Post #3685  (isolation #108)  » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:23 am

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Post Post #3702  (isolation #109)  » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:49 am

Hey, have you met my friend, Tags? Yeah, Spoiler Tags. He's a cool dude.
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Post Post #4059  (isolation #110)  » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:01 am

Catching up. Sorry, been busy past few days.
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Post Post #4122  (isolation #111)  » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:46 pm

Lynch Iz if we come down to deadline. Just humor me. Poor favors...please.


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Post Post #4135  (isolation #112)  » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:54 pm

Give me some more WIFOM, Izzy.
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Post Post #4141  (isolation #113)  » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:40 pm

Scum question. I plan to get to Lylo on this, because everything I said makes sense. I got to the point that I wasn't going to be NK'd for the sheer fact I'd always be an easy mislynch. Also, who know? Maybe I was shot and there could be 3 kills a night.
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Post Post #4169  (isolation #114)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:38 pm

Mm. K.
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Post Post #4172  (isolation #115)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:49 pm

@Shiro

VOTE: Thor
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Post Post #4195  (isolation #116)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:48 pm

I believe I've been in a game where Reinoe did the exact same thing as Thor is doing now. And I was in Reinoe's spot with the fake hammer.
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Post Post #4196  (isolation #117)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:48 pm

So yes, hammer Thor.
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Post Post #4201  (isolation #118)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:08 pm

In post 4197, Slandaar wrote:Yeah.

You were.

Reinoe was town.

VOTE: Boon



Oh, was he?

I was also town there, Thor.
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Post Post #4202  (isolation #119)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:08 pm

unvote

I haven't been keeping up enough to want to be on this wagon.
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Post Post #4216  (isolation #120)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:18 pm

Oh, haha. Slandaar was also in that game. I forgot. But yes, it was that game in which I believe I am referring to. But yeah, I feel Thor is doing the same thing Reinoe did in that game. Reinoe ended up claiming Nurse. He was VT.
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Post Post #4222  (isolation #121)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:22 pm

I originally thought when posting that, that Reinoe was scum. I only vaguely remembered it anyways. I went back and checked after Slandaar spoke up, which is why I unvoted Thor.
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Post Post #4227  (isolation #122)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:30 pm

^ that.
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Post Post #4233  (isolation #123)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:44 pm

Can you guys pay the fuck attention at all? I unvoted. God damn ignorance. I don't want Thor lynched. Stop being held up on something completely irrelevant, and actually read what happened.
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Post Post #4235  (isolation #124)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:45 pm

Is anyone else but me leaning scum on Nero?
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Post Post #4242  (isolation #125)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:54 pm

In post 4236, Thor665 wrote:
In post 4233, Boonskiies wrote:Can you guys pay the Smurf attention at all? I unvoted. Smurf damn ignorance. I don't want Thor lynched. Stop being held up on something completely irrelevant, and actually read what happened.

They did.
It does matter.
It doesn't matter that you unvoted later.
Stop playing poorly and people will stop questioning your sloppy and scummy looking moves.

Who would you like to lynch now?



No. It doesn't fucking matter. What I said? Yeah, that does. What Nero keeps misinterpreting what I said? No, that doesn't matter at all. I'm fucking sorry that I thought Reinoe was scum in the game I referenced, oh boo hoo! I made a mistake. You all are perfect and never make mistakes. Nero's been talking about PL multiple times throughout the game, and also only reads parts of posts and gets held up on them. Posts things exactly how they happen and fill everything else up with fluff.

VOTE: Nero

My first actual scum read all game. Iz is more gut, Thor is my whatever vote. Fuck.


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Post Post #4246  (isolation #126)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:57 pm

@Shiro - are you not fucking reading either? I thought Reinoe was scum in the game I referenced, and thought Thor was in the same position. Which would make Thor scum. I was wrong about Reinoe being scum there, so I unvoted. HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS?
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Post Post #4248  (isolation #127)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:02 pm

Look at Nero's ISO. It looks a lot like he's actually doing something, but he's doing less than I am. He's asking open ended questions that don't really mean anything, and repeating what has already been said. He's whiteknighting the hell out of certain people, he's not actually giving any reads. He's only voted like 3 different people, and they have all been people that are easy to mislynch. He asks questions like..."What are your thoughts on Thor, and why?" Which is a fine question, but when his questions are ALL similar to that, he's not actually basing any of his reads off that. He's freaking' scum.
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Post Post #4249  (isolation #128)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:03 pm

In post 4245, Nero Cain wrote:give me an example of me twisting words and taking things out of context.



My whole situation.
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Post Post #4250  (isolation #129)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:03 pm

You also were WK'ing me so hard earlier.
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Post Post #4252  (isolation #130)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:07 pm

Yes, I am reading. And that's exactly why I'm mad. It should make me seem MORE town that I made the mistake.
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Post Post #4255  (isolation #131)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:09 pm

As soon as I realized Reinoe was actually town in that game I instantly took my vote off in fear of someone hammering.

I performed the gambit because I thought Reinoe was scum in that game. Even in that game, I thought Reinoe had flipped scum, and it took me until my death there to realize that he was town. I wasn't the only one that did that there, either.
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Post Post #4256  (isolation #132)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:10 pm

Was caught up in the moment. Sorry for actually trying to fucking help. I'll go back to doing nothing.
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Post Post #4258  (isolation #133)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:11 pm

I'm fucking done. ^ This guy.
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Post Post #4260  (isolation #134)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:13 pm

In post 4257, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4249, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4245, Nero Cain wrote:give me an example of me twisting words and taking things out of context.



My whole situation.

I don't think I am?

You were in a game and fake hammered someone who was town. In this game Thor reacted the same way and yet you said to hammer him 'cause he was scum for it. Someone said that was silly and I agreed. What exactly am I misrepping here?

In post 4250, Boonskiies wrote:You also were WK'ing me so hard earlier.

I don't believe I did this. I suggested we shouldn't lynch you right off the bat but that's all. Ironically Thor is now arguing the same thing.



If you would read my fucking posts, you would have found out by now that I thought Reinoe was actually scum in that game, which, with your logic, would make me think Thor was actually scum. I realized Reinoe wasn't actually scum, so I unvoted, MEANING I WASN'T VOTING SOMEONE I THOUGHT WAS TOWN. GOD FUCKING DAMN.


@Shiro - I remembered his nurse claim, and the fact that I fake hammered. I didn't remember the playerlist much, or what game it was.
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Post Post #4264  (isolation #135)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:18 pm

There was far more to it, Scripten. Check his ISO.


@Nero - I claimed when I unvoted Thor. I've been bringing it up often. It's not just now. Read...my...fucking...posts.
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Post Post #4267  (isolation #136)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:27 pm

I'm not scum reading you for your play towards me. I voted for you because I legitimately feel you are scum. You aren't really voting anyone this game. You've voted Thor and Flubber...(not going to count TobyLoby from early game). Thor...and Flubber...come on. Two always easily mislynched people. Also, you aren't giving much information really. You are flat out sprouting fluff, repeating things that's already been said, and you are asking easy to ask questions that make it seem like you are doing something. You are playing very neutral, and seem hesitant to do anything basically. Scum tends to have that hesitance a lot, as they feel vulnerable when they are the center, and you don't have to defend anything you do because of this.
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Post Post #4269  (isolation #137)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:28 pm

My favored alignment is scum. I have barely put any effort into this game.
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Post Post #4270  (isolation #138)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:29 pm

I'd also be willing to take the PL if we need to do that, as I'm just going to end up being a mislynch later, and that's going to piss me off.
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Post Post #4274  (isolation #139)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:34 pm

Nero's trying to brush me aside now so he doesn't slip up.

@Tiershift - I actually do like that list. (minus Fonz; I don't have a read on him. Did he claim something and I just missed it?)
I wouldn't have even put Flub/Iza on my list though.
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Post Post #4277  (isolation #140)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:36 pm

In post 4253, Slandaar wrote:
In post 4246, Boonskiies wrote:@Shiro - are you not fucking reading either? I thought Reinoe was scum in the game I referenced, and thought Thor was in the same position. Which would make Thor scum. I was wrong about Reinoe being scum there, so I unvoted. HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS?

Alright I will bite Boonsie. If you only vaguely remembered the incident then why didn't you check before pushing for a hammer?

It's not just the mistake it's the lack of thought shown into your read when someone is L-1. It looks like you didn't care and just wanted to push the lynch through. I do find it hard to imagine forgetting Reinoe is town when you yourself performed the gambit too...



Did you think I cared about the game enough to make sure? This is also a response to your statement made. Also, I have now grown a little more interest in this game, as I believe it has shown.
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Post Post #4278  (isolation #141)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:36 pm

In post 4276, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4274, Boonskiies wrote:Nero's trying to brush me aside now so he doesn't slip up.

ummm..no



You don't do well under pressure, do you?
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Post Post #4286  (isolation #142)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:41 pm

Which game are you referring me to being town and wagon'd? The one we were talking about earlier? I got hammered in my sleep. I would have thrown a fit. I tend to be much calmer as scum. I have thrown many town tantrums in my games.
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Post Post #4288  (isolation #143)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:43 pm

In post 4282, TierShift wrote:Also nero is very high on my scum list but I have never taken the effort to ISO him. Everything he says feels wrong though.



Please ISO him. I can't see a town ISO ever looking like that.
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Post Post #4298  (isolation #144)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:52 pm

Look at Nero actively avoiding everything anyone is putting against him. He's the lynch for today, people. It is NOT a random lynch. Fonz is probably his buddy trying to save Nero by going after me instead of drawing focus on Nero.
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Post Post #4307  (isolation #145)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:58 pm

You've voted Flubber and Thor.
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Post Post #4308  (isolation #146)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:58 pm

In post 4306, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4304, T S O wrote:vote: nero cain

stop playing against your wincon.



This is his defense.
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Post Post #4310  (isolation #147)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:00 pm

In post 4309, Izariael wrote:
In post 4290, T S O wrote:I would be up for a Nero Cain lynch on policy basis alone.

Not sure about Boon though.

What changed from earlier?
In post 2979, T S O wrote:It's disturbing how much I like Nero this game.



He probably looked at his ISO.
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Post Post #4315  (isolation #148)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:06 pm

In post 4302, The Fonz wrote:
In post 4298, Boonskiies wrote:Look at Nero actively avoiding everything anyone is putting against him. He's the lynch for today, people. It is NOT a random lynch. Fonz is probably his buddy trying to save Nero by going after me instead of drawing focus on Nero.


So, seriously, who's up for putting up with this kind of 'analysis' every day until deadline? Lynch him now, or forever hold your peace!

(If Boon survives today, I will not be voting for him later on barring the aforementioned awesome case).



When Nero flips scum, I think that's enough proof that I'm probably town. Unless you think I would bus my partner from out of nowhere like that. When he flips scum, you'll have no reason to vote me after today, anyways.
@Flubber - I bussed my scum partner in my last scum game, but that was after he was going down, and he had told me to do it in our PT where we had daytalk.


@Nero - You'd policy lynch nearly anyone. You bring it up enough in your ISO.
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Post Post #4317  (isolation #149)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:08 pm

Yes, but I'm not keeping caught up on the thread. ^
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Post Post #4320  (isolation #150)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:10 pm

I've already commented on my read on you Iz, a few pages back.

You have more fluff than all of them, Nero.
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Post Post #4323  (isolation #151)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:12 pm

This is how I plan to go forward, Iz. My gut read on Iz isn't strong enough to pursue Iz. Nero isn't a gut read. I've given plenty of reasons, and it's all supported by looking at his ISO as a whole. I'm actually playing the game now.
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Post Post #4324  (isolation #152)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:13 pm

This has nothing to do with my claim, nor does it necessarily have to do with any interactions between Nero and I.
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Post Post #4326  (isolation #153)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:14 pm

Shiro's been pointing out some contradictions.
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Post Post #4330  (isolation #154)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:20 pm

@Iz - While targeting you, I had barely any other interaction with anyone else in the game, and hadn't been staying focused. The reason all my scum hunting tools were all about my claim is because that's how I was staying relevant in the game. I had barely put any analysis/effort into the game, and it's all I had. It was the beginning of a large game...my day 1's are always ridiculously bad anyways. I actually start to become a pretty strong town player mid-game.
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Post Post #4336  (isolation #155)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:36 pm

In post 4332, Nero Cain wrote:no. He's a claimed VI is a statement 'cause he claimed he was a VI and he is a derpy VI is a statement 'cause he is or atleast pretends like one.

I prob have argued that he might be less likely to be scum 'cause of his claimed role but I don't think I've ever argued that he's undoubtedly town 'cause he's a VI. If that was my logic then I'd be town reading the whole game.



You basically are already.
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Post Post #4337  (isolation #156)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:36 pm

Also, Iz, I know I should have. I just fell behind, and never caught up. I tried to stay caught up D2 beginning, but eh. I'll be fine from now on. I've gotten the basis on the player list now.
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Post Post #4394  (isolation #157)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:34 pm

Nero's so obv scum. It's not even funny.
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Post Post #4395  (isolation #158)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:35 pm

In post 4393, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4391, Thor665 wrote:i was pushing people to advance the wagon enough so I could get the claim out of the way - forcing both wagon accontability *and* a claim.

So...you wanted to get the claim out of the way and so did I but I am some how scummy for wanting the same thing you did?

Yours is the only viable wagon that I support unless an Axle or TSO wagon pops up *hint hint* or if the Josh B wagon grows.


he just happens to be scum reading two of the three people voting him. I'm the third. 'nuff said.
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Post Post #4404  (isolation #159)  » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:41 am

he's squirming.
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Post Post #4405  (isolation #160)  » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:43 am

Nero's the play toDay, boys. I'll eat my pants if he somehow (he won't) flips town.
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Post Post #4407  (isolation #161)  » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:47 am

Axle, he thinks you, myself, and TSO are all derp town. We're also the 3 voting him, and he scum reads you two as well. Wait, he thinks you are derp town when he is scum reading you?!?! Gasp!!!! Yeah...come on...
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Post Post #4539  (isolation #162)  » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:54 pm

In post 4520, T S O wrote:is anyone actually townreading nero after that jump on axle

like fucking really



Freaking seriously...there's no possible way Nero's town.
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Post Post #4755  (isolation #163)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:50 pm

I'm pretty sure I was shot night 1.

He claimed it a long time ago, T S O.

Anywho, I'm going to go ahead and...

VOTE: Nero

I'm not done with that. I'd also like to push Goodmorning. I am making the choice and decide to trust my iffy Shiro read being off for now.
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Post Post #4756  (isolation #164)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:51 pm

In post 4750, Nero Cain wrote:vote:IZ


y u vote, Iz, yo? I don't think it's a horrible vote, but whyyyyy?!
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Post Post #4760  (isolation #165)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:57 pm

The fact that we confirmed there was a werewolf faction, yes, I believe it's likely to have two factions in one neighborhood.
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Post Post #4764  (isolation #166)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:46 pm

Did you miss my early day 2? I believe there's at least one scum in my neighborhood, and Iz was the one I thought it was, and thought shot Aneninen/myself Night 1. He seemed to have known too much in the neighborhood chat. He was the person I went after the most in this game.


@Slandaar - still being too stubborn to read the rest of the posts in the conversation? Whatever, your tunnel vision, not mine.
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Post Post #4767  (isolation #167)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:50 pm

because I think he's scum? Idk what else to say about that. I don't think it's a bad vote. He's in my top 3 likely to be scum list.
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Post Post #4774  (isolation #168)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:23 pm

@Nero - ^ This is why I think Iz is scum.
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Post Post #4775  (isolation #169)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:24 pm

and you never went ahead to explain your reasonings, Nero. I'd be happy to hear them. You may even make me switch my vote.
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Post Post #4776  (isolation #170)  » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:30 pm

Another possibility of Night 1 is Tiershift being shot, but he used his Commuter ability. It doesn't seem to be limited, so it couldn't hurt him to use it.
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Post Post #4785  (isolation #171)  » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:23 am

Wait, was it Reinoe that was targeting beast? If so, I'm okay with a beast lynch now. Him having Reinoe at the top of his scum list (if it was indeed Reinoe who was...) screams scum to me.

Also, Slandaar is creeping his way up for me. Scared you aren't going to be able to get rid of me because I'm bulletproof, huh?
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Post Post #4847  (isolation #172)  » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:31 pm

This is town Reinoe.

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Post Post #4848  (isolation #173)  » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:32 pm

I'd like to also point out that Nero is once again voting the town wagon. If you guys lynch Reinoe today, stupidly might I add, we're lynching Nero tomorrow.
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Post Post #4919  (isolation #174)  » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:31 pm

In post 4857, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4755, Boonskiies wrote:I'm pretty sure I was shot night 1.


Why ?

If it is mod confirmed or something Id like to know....

If that is Boonskiies being boonskiies (cray cray) then I'd like to know that I ought ignore it.



@Axle - I believe I was shot night 1. Day 1, i believe the way I was playing made it 'obvious' I was some kind of PR, and that everyone expected me to be a noob PR. Then in my neighborhood chat that night, I pretty much claimed that I was a protective role of some kind, like a doctor. We had 2 kills night 1, 3 kills night 2. Sure, there's other possibilities, but I do indeed believe I was shot, especially after the WW flip. We probably have mafia/ww/vig in this game.

@Nero - I just thought it was odd for me to be a 2-shot BP, which to me only makes sense if there were a lot of killing roles. Also, Thor claiming 1-shot Jailkeeper really fits in with my 2-shot BP, as that could be a cause of confusion and discussion, while not seriously being overpowered on the town side.

@Reinoe - Yes, you pushed me because you thought me claiming BP wouldn't draw a NK, but I was already under the impression that I had drawn a NK, making it so I am a HUGE problem for scum now. As they can't just kill me off, and they're going to want to lynch me to get rid of me. Keep watch for who's trying to get rid of me.
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Post Post #4959  (isolation #175)  » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:15 pm

@Nero - My scum read on you is fading. I had major tunnel vision. Congrats.

@Axle - I actually really love you right now. I do believe he slipped up also. I have made mini slip ups like those as scum, and it's the worst. Usually they go unnoticed, but I'm glad you found that. I am on board with a lynch on the Josh B/Gamr slot.

In other news, Izariael's 4933 feels like he knows far much more than he should. That is what originally had me scum reading him Night 1 in our neighborhood, and this is the reason why I am lingering scum reading him. I also don't like how he obviously wants to get rid of me, yet doesn't want a push on me. That's probably only seen majorly from my perspective, as I'm the one he's referring to, and the one where he will NOT be able to get rid of me. Nero is similar to this position, but less so recently.

I think Reinoe's being a bigger VI than me, despite him calling me the VI, but alas, I do think he's town. Which is why my vote is on Beast. There is no way that Reinoe, as scum, would claim to have investigated me as 'not mafia', and get rid of a mislynch on me in that variety.
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Post Post #4975  (isolation #176)  » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:41 pm

In post 4963, Izariael wrote:
In post 4959, Boonskiies wrote:In other news, Izariael's 4933 feels like he knows far much more than he should. That is what originally had me scum reading him Night 1 in our neighborhood, and this is the reason why I am lingering scum reading him. I also don't like how he obviously wants to get rid of me, yet doesn't want a push on me. That's probably only seen majorly from my perspective, as I'm the one he's referring to, and the one where he will NOT be able to get rid of me.


First of all, it's a thing called speculation. I don't claim to know 100% what happened. I'm offering what I think to be the most likely occurrence of events. You keep spinning it as though I'm saying "this is absolutely what happened" rather than "this is what I think happened". Stop. Please. It's getting annoying.

Second, I'm not pushing for your lynch. I'm really not interested in pushing you at all at this moment beyond getting your facts straight. I posted a series of roleclaims that have been made, and again, SPECULATED that not all of those claims were truthful or town-aligned. I did not say "none of them are town/true".

In post 4933, Izariael wrote:**Somewhat on-topic**


The bolded means that I don't think ALL FOUR of these claims are town. It does not mean:
-all four of these claims are NOT TOWN
-I am singling out Boon as the liar amongst the four claims. Lynch him.
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Post Post #4977  (isolation #177)  » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:43 pm

VOTE: Reinoe

I see it now. My bad.
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Post Post #4978  (isolation #178)  » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:45 pm

unvote

Wait, no! It makes sense to investigate me. Agh....
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Post Post #4979  (isolation #179)  » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:46 pm

VOTE: Izariael

I'll stick with what I know.
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Post Post #4980  (isolation #180)  » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:47 pm

(I fully accept that toDay's lynch is either Reinoe or Beast, and I will join back on the wagon when I make a decision.)
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Post Post #5006  (isolation #181)  » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:38 am

I also pretty much knew it was multiball when i found out my role pm, and then there were 4+ neighborhoods and probably also a mason duo.
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Post Post #5031  (isolation #182)  » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 5012, T S O wrote:I had a thought over the night which could be wrong:

Would leaving them both alive do anything? It makes scum waste a nightkill on potentially both of them, and only 1 faction can actually shoot the real Cop, which would then get their teammate quicklynched.



Why would they shoot either in this situation? Able to mislynch on one of them, if I were scum I'd keep em both alive.
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Post Post #5106  (isolation #183)  » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:21 pm

In post 5050, reinoe wrote:
In post 5043, Thor665 wrote:You being town gives us confirmed BP town in Boonderp though - which is at least amusing as scum lose that easy as pie mislynch.

Boons is not an easy pie lynch, which was a contributing factor to why I investigated him. If he's scum, his play gets townread.



Aww...you've played with me long enough to know better. <3


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In post 5076, Slandaar wrote:Lets be real.

For Reinoe to be town:
Beast or his team must have a rolecop and investigated Reinoe N1/N2.
Beast was either told to or decided to fake a guilty on Reinoe on discovery of his role.
Beast and/or his team decided his life was in such a perilous position that sacrificing Beast to Lynch Reinoe is good play instead of just ... shooting Reinoe tonight?

Points against Reinoe:
Reinoe had not crumbed his result or even hinted it. He even delayed (by 4 mins) his result after he claimed.
Reinoe entered today with the old 'Oh there is a WW flips let's look for interactions' which is a scumtell in itself.
He delayed the mention of Rolecop.

Points against Beast:
Well... uh... He hasn't been very active until today.
Hasn't completely clarified how his role works although I assume this will be clarified when he receives a mod response to his question.

Points for Beast:
Came into the day with an agenda: to lynch Reinoe
This is a form of crumbing. His result is clear.
Was 'losing the battle' so claimed his result.


:]


They probably had to give the actions before they received the note that Reinoe was the even-night cop, meaning they couldn't have found out and kill him because of it in the same night. Pointless to RC and kill in same night, as it does nothing for the scum team. If Beast had known that Reinoe was an even night cop, of course he's going to go balls deep and try and mislynch him. Especially if he thought that Reinoe was going to get a successful guilty on someone. Beast probably thought he was going down today because of interest towards lynching him yesterDay, making it an even more obvious choice as scum toDay. Him 'losing the battle' is his way of one last hurrah to get a PR lynched. He's trying to get out of it now by doing whatever he's doing with the gunsmith thing.

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Post Post #5107  (isolation #184)  » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:22 pm

Also, I have done the 'pm the mod' act as scum before. It gives you time to formulate a plan and usually comes across super town like. I'm not buying it though.
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Post Post #5120  (isolation #185)  » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:00 am

In post 5117, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5101, Flubbernugget wrote:Like I really don't wanna read any of this.

^

someone explain to me why I should doubt Beasts cop claim.


I think he's claiming gunsmith now...I'm unsure.

Anyways, you should doubt his cop claim because he doesn't know if who he gets a guilty on. Now he's saying that the mod told him he gets a guilty on all non-town affiliated. Werewolf/SK does NOT get a guilty for a cop. If he's changing his claim to gunsmith, he's basically claiming scum at this point. Lynch Beast toDay, and if by the possibility that he is just an incredibly stupid town member (he can't be that stupid, can he?), we lynch Reinoe tomorrow. But if Beast is at least at the competency equivalent of a 12 year old, there is no way he is town saying the things he's saying.


@Josh B - Not necessarily does he know that it's been multiball. He claimed even-night cop, which means he just got his first result last night.
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Post Post #5122  (isolation #186)  » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:12 am

God damn it. I didn't even think of the possibility of both of them being scum. I actually now believe that is the case though, Axle. Beast would definitely be a WW, and Reinoe would be the mafia member. Still, there is the chance that Reinoe is town. Beast first, we sort with Reinoe later.
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Post Post #5163  (isolation #187)  » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:43 pm

In post 5123, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5119, Josh_B wrote:At this point, multiball is super confirmed

no its not.

In post 5120, Boonskiies wrote:Werewolf/SK does NOT get a guilty for a cop.

p sure that this isn't true.



Just...no, Nero... :facepalm:
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Post Post #5193  (isolation #188)  » Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:04 am

In post 5179, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4993, beastcharizard wrote:I can choose one person to investigate and get the results: "Your target is not guilty", "Your target is guilty" or "No Result"

My result was: "Your target is guilty"

It doesn't say anything about detecting mafia or werewolves it just says I choose someone to investigate and get back said results.[b]


and yet after that more loosely again says
In post 5016, beastcharizard wrote:Yes it would piss me off. That is what it would do. [b]WE HAVE A GUARANTEED MAFIA LYNCH! Why in your right mind would you want to skip over that?



I like this find. I think it basically proves him to be scum.
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Post Post #5252  (isolation #189)  » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:50 am

Oi...what do?
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Post Post #5270  (isolation #190)  » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:27 pm

I feel beast should be lynched first, also.
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Post Post #5327  (isolation #191)  » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:02 pm

In post 5272, T S O wrote:prime night cop

how about fucking no, beast

vote: beastcharizard

no idea if I was doing this already but seriously what the fuck




Actually, Aegor might make a setup with something like that...I think I believe it now. This game started after Aegor was a Fibonacci-Night Cop, which also deals with certain numbered nights.

So I'll hammer. Thanks for clearing me up, though.

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Post Post #5331  (isolation #192)  » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:22 pm

well, fuck.
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Post Post #5333  (isolation #193)  » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:49 pm

He always does this.
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Post Post #5353  (isolation #194)  » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:05 am

In post 5341, Nero Cain wrote:So in my hood last night both me and TSO agreed that Axxle needs death. I am not sure if this means TSO is scum or if this is a sign of the apocalypse but I'm slightly leaning the later.

Though it was a lil' odd that he was arguing that me being in the hood made me scum despite arguing the former yesterday but *shrugz*

vote:Axxle



We kind of talked about the opposite in my neighborhood. I don't think Axxle is scum at all.

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I feel there is scum in that neighborhood, and the fact that Nero was so eager to put Axxle under when TSO agreed makes me feel he's the one that is scum in that neighborhood. This, and everything I said yesterDay.
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Post Post #5405  (isolation #195)  » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:52 pm

I mean, it's not like I'm incompetent. I just get derpy when I have a lack of reads. We're getting to the point where I believe I'm going to actually start becoming a strong town player in this game. That being said...let's lynch Nero so I can prove I was right yesterDay.
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Post Post #5417  (isolation #196)  » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:18 pm

@Thor, I'm the one who claimed BP, not Axle.
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Post Post #5420  (isolation #197)  » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:28 pm

I feel Flubber's paranoia towards me without pushing me is scummy. He's usually all over me. I'd be down to lynch if pressure on him doesn't come off town.

Iz I scum read a few days ago, and it's kind of lingered away, but he's kind of been pushed out of the way recently. His talk in the neighborhood last night made me start to lean town on him, though. He's very unsure and flip floppy, yet he still is theorizing and contemplating a lot. He posts A LOT in the neighborhood thread. I'm seeing it pretty town.
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Post Post #5432  (isolation #198)  » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:04 pm

In post 5425, Flubbernugget wrote:Boons you need some examples to back your case up.

My issue with Boons is that he came off as overwhelmed, and that was the only thing that made me think he was town. But with the numbers significantly thinned, his posting still has that "overwhelmed" feel, so my theory was wrong.

I've seen boons ride a game to the end as scum as a fakeclaimed tracker, and during the end he slipped really hard multiple times over. And I'm hesitant to peg boons as scum because I'm just not seeing slips like that in this game. The problem now is that you can't slip with a bp claim the way you can slip with a tracker claim.

Ohh and hanging out in the neighborhood while hiding in thread isn't really a town tell.



I'd just like to point out that in that game you were the only one capable of seeing that slip because of your known information. From the inside perspective, I didn't slip up in a way where anyone in the game could peg me 100% as scum.
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Post Post #5433  (isolation #199)  » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:07 pm

Also, claiming BP as scum would have been stupid on my part.
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