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Post Post #6419  (isolation #600)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:25 pm

In post 6388, Slandaar wrote:
In post 6385, Boonskiies wrote:Why do the we have to assume the neighborhoods are random? I guess it's really the only argument a wolf has at this point.

OK I am town.

What other argument is there against the pattern?

You should assume they are random because that is what you should always do there is no reason to believe they are not.

Do you actually think the mod would put 4/6 scum outside the hoods in 8 players? clearly that can be broken later. Maybe by random chance it happens but seems terrible to do otherwise and in the situation that did happen via random rolls you are right using wrong methodology. Thus we assume random, we always assume random and we scumhunt ignoring the hoods and flips in them.

Here is a pretty pattern I shall present to you:

Neighbours
Script
Thor
Boon

all wolves 1 in each hood.

Non neighbours
Pine
Flubber
Reinoe

All mafia.

Now we have two pretty patterns.

Present an argument against my pattern Boon.


Pattern one has symmetry within the scumteams and good set-up design.
Pattern two has no symmetry at all and is terrible set-up design.
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Post Post #6428  (isolation #601)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:50 pm

In post 6421, Slandaar wrote:
In post 6419, T S O wrote:Pattern one has symmetry within the scumteams and good set-up design.
Pattern two has no symmetry at all and is terrible set-up design.

A setup doesn't have to be symmetrical to be well designed?


No, you're right. It most certainly doesn't.

Unfortunately, your set-up would never, ever get through the review. Let's just clarify:

Mafia:
Even Night Roleblocker
Odd Night Rolecop
whatever the third is, but non-Neighbour and probably a PR

Wolf:
1-shot JK Neighbour
2-shot BP Neighbour
Goon Neighbour

Town:
Tracker Neighbour
Prime Night Cop
JOAT (BG+Commute)
2-shot Vig Neighbour
A shitload of VT Neighbours
A shitload of VT's

Town's investigative powers n1 is one Track. n2, Track and Cop. Scum factions can boast a Jailkeep, a Roleblock and a Rolecop, as well as 4 kills. That's not even counting Vig, which could blow up town power either.

How the hell is this fair to Town?
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Post Post #6465  (isolation #602)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:29 pm

I'm here.
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Post Post #6467  (isolation #603)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:33 pm

I am swamped with hw and have MORE exams next month, but I will try.
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Post Post #6469  (isolation #604)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:41 pm

I reaaallllly don't think Boon is wolf
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6471  (isolation #605)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:56 pm

Bulletproof Wolf

How balanced is that again?
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Post Post #6473  (isolation #606)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:00 pm

so it's Thor/Boon?
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Post Post #6474  (isolation #607)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:01 pm

because we have studiously ignored even wagoning Thor today and this Boon flashwagon feels like shit

your wagon is always derailed
Thor's wagon is always derailed
Boon shows no sign of being derailed

why is this
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Post Post #6475  (isolation #608)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:01 pm

I won't vote Boon, not for this offensive/defensive team paranoia spec bullshit.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6476  (isolation #609)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:02 pm

I think I want Slandaar dead today, real talk.

Vote: Slandaar
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6511  (isolation #610)  » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:16 pm

I don't know what I think anymore, but I owe it to town players to make an informed decision, something I can't say I'm doing now.

Unvote

I have fluctuated so many goddamn times on this game, but I'm going to read and read and finally make up my mind.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6527  (isolation #611)  » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:13 pm

I don't know if you're joking, but I hope you are.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6546  (isolation #612)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:24 am

I can't help but feel Thor is winning Thor vs Slandaar. Slandaar and Pine's mutual Mafia read on me also rings alarm bells.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6547  (isolation #613)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:25 am

I think there's been a strong split through the game of the WW team being Thor/Boon or Pine/Slandaar - Bulba and me won in Marvel by creating that artificial gap as scum, so if scum have done the same, I admire that.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6548  (isolation #614)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:26 am

Boon following my opinions so closely has continually generated paranoia from me but I think we could just really be on the same lines here.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6549  (isolation #615)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:27 am

I'm making a decision to lynch the person I want dead today, not the teammember, because it's entirely possible clever WW interactions are making me choose wrong.

So, yeah, I should have my decision made by today.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6592  (isolation #616)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:04 pm

Are you claiming Mafia, or ...?
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Post Post #6594  (isolation #617)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:05 pm

Because unless you are, then don't use "maybe im mafia" as an excuse, justification, or anything else.
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Post Post #6596  (isolation #618)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:11 pm

I was responding to Slandaar.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6613  (isolation #619)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:05 pm

vote: slandaar
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6614  (isolation #620)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:06 pm

I just find nothing you are doing town at all - you're so concerned on winning arguments that you resort to bullshit semantics.

Plus, you're in every Wolf team I think of.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6615  (isolation #621)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:07 pm

It -could- be Thor/Pine - if it is, I give them credit. But I don't think so.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6621  (isolation #622)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:59 pm

no
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6623  (isolation #623)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:51 pm

No, because I'm not as confident in Boon.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6625  (isolation #624)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:24 pm

why
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6636  (isolation #625)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:32 pm

can we just vote slandaar
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6637  (isolation #626)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:32 pm

like I'll admit I am clueless on his partner but I want him dead
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Post Post #6645  (isolation #627)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:50 pm

get your fucking votes down
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Post Post #6714  (isolation #628)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:07 pm

I'm here.
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Post Post #6715  (isolation #629)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:09 pm

Pine, you could be town - but Slandaar is the best lynch choice for me because I could conceive multiple teams he's on. I'm sorry if you're town, you really could be, and if I'm tossing the game I apologise - but I have been convinced into lynching town by scum in LyLo when I KNEW I was right and it's not happening here. Vote is staying. Slandaar gets dead now.
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Post Post #6717  (isolation #630)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:10 pm

Slandaar should have claimed if he was Mafia.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6718  (isolation #631)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:10 pm

Then convince me Slandaar isn't Wolf?
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Post Post #6722  (isolation #632)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:16 pm

We don't have that time, I'm afraid.
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Post Post #6729  (isolation #633)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:51 pm

well, what I had to say doesn't matter anymore.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6730  (isolation #634)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:52 pm

I really don't think Slandaar is Mafia.

If he was, and we've just lost the game, my prediction is Thor/Pine or something as Wolves - Thor, at any rate.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6731  (isolation #635)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:52 pm

Yeah, Thor/Pine.
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Post Post #6733  (isolation #636)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:05 pm

I don't know - I have Nero as not-Wolf, but he could be Mafia to me. Maybe I've realised he couldn't be previously but it's too late and I'm too tired to go ISO'ing myself.
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Post Post #6734  (isolation #637)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:07 pm

if slandaar flips wolf and scum could crosskill that'd be great, I've got exams on soon and I don't really feel like deciding the fate of our entire town

love tso xx
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Post Post #6738  (isolation #638)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:30 pm

Boon, do you think Nero's mafia?
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Post Post #6740  (isolation #639)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:49 pm

Again, I've laid out why I'm basically confirmed not Mafia, but I really don't feel like looking it up.

The fact you have both me and Thor, people I'd see as as unlikeliest and second unlikeliest respectively to be Mafia, as -could be- makes me feel a little on edge about you, Boon.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6742  (isolation #640)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:02 pm

His absence from the thread today and hammer of Slandaar do make sense for survivalistic Mafia, I guess.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6747  (isolation #641)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:40 am

Town/Town/Maf?

And you were a Werewolf, yeah?
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Post Post #6748  (isolation #642)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:46 am

In post 6706, Nero Cain wrote:So deadline is in like 10 hours. The only votes that I support today are Boon/Slandaar/no lynch and maybe Pine (but you'll have to explain why he's wolf) so you guys decide what ya'll want.


What viable lynches did you not support in this post?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6750  (isolation #643)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:59 am

But I don't understand the point of the post - you said you'd support Slandaar, major wagon #1, or Boon, major wagon #2, or Pine, the next most viable person, or a No Lynch. The only people you didn't support were me and Thor, who were clearly not up for lynch, and yourself.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6752  (isolation #644)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:49 am

In post 6746, Slandaar wrote:I guess I better make sure you know; Town/Town/Maf. Cry at me postgame if you already knew but I feel I need to make sure.

Only way we lose is when town lynch at 2/1/1 or 1/1/1 which is really lame.


Is this you calling Thor scum to your Werewolf buddy?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6759  (isolation #645)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:26 pm

In post 6746, Slandaar wrote:I guess I better make sure you know; Town/Town/Maf. Cry at me postgame if you already knew but I feel I need to make sure.

Only way we lose is when town lynch at 2/1/1 or 1/1/1 which is really lame.


If Slandaar was town, then the set-up would now be 2/1/1. For us to come into tomorrow at 2/1/1 it would require a miraculous no kill twice in the same night.

Slandaar hasn't shown any signs that he believes there's a way for this to happen - so, for me, he's confessing in this post.

I'd love to know what you think it means, though...
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6761  (isolation #646)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:27 pm

I'll be periodically here on-and-off for a bit, I'll check every 10 mins or so if anyone wants to talk about anything, because I'm busy playing COD
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Post Post #6770  (isolation #647)  » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:58 pm

Hey, Thor, our set-up spec was right after all!
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Post Post #6790  (isolation #648)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:09 pm

I'm trying to think if there's any way for Pine to be town here - I really do not think so.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6794  (isolation #649)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 6792, Pine wrote:
In post 6790, T S O wrote:I'm trying to think if there's any way for Pine to be town here - I really do not think so.

Believe it

So how pissed were you when Flubber got flashwagoned?


really, really pissed

so utterly pissed I voted him instead of you

I almost came from the sadism I was inflicting upon myself
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Post Post #6795  (isolation #650)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:16 pm

but like that was a horrendous response, Pine, you are scum.
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Post Post #6799  (isolation #651)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:19 pm

are we calling Pine mafia? I think he's more likely ww
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Post Post #6804  (isolation #652)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:28 pm

look Pine it's really cute that you've came up with a scenario that makes you not-scum but I still don't care
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Post Post #6805  (isolation #653)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:29 pm

Watching you squirm is rather amusing though.
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Post Post #6810  (isolation #654)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:38 pm

Pine, you came up with one scenario for Pine-town which is possible. The fact that there -is- a scenario where you are town is the reason you have not been quicklynched yet, but it's nothing more.

So, for me, you still had a chance of being town even after the claim. However, your awful play around Slandaar, which basically went like "NO PLEASE DON'T HURT HIM GET THAT BOONSKIIES" was pretty damning. Your promised content never really showed up. You being Wolf points perfectly towards set-up spec.

Why would I randomly believe you when nothing else points to it?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6811  (isolation #655)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:39 pm

Your posts post-Slandaar flip are also really forced.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6812  (isolation #656)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:43 pm

I mean, even reading back over it now, you never even half justified Slandaar-town.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6813  (isolation #657)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:44 pm

Really, that's the root of my confidence - your Slandaar stance continues to be nonsensical.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6820  (isolation #658)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:11 pm

oh my fucking god boon
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Post Post #6821  (isolation #659)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:11 pm

what even is 6815
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Post Post #6822  (isolation #660)  » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:19 pm

I'll admit my hopes of strolling into today as conftown were very optimistic, but this is a fucking joke.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6829  (isolation #661)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:02 am

Real life has me angry right now but I don't think this is unfair:

Boon, after you post some retarded fucking bullshit about attempting to draw the nightkill and other awful bullshit the least you could do would be to have some fucking manners and come in and justify it after the entire thread asks you to

Thanks a lot
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Post Post #6833  (isolation #662)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:36 pm

In post 4755, Boonskiies wrote:I'm pretty sure I was shot night 1.


Why did you think this?
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Post Post #6834  (isolation #663)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:37 pm

I could have asked this before but even if I did it seems relevant once more.
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Post Post #6835  (isolation #664)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:38 pm

I suddenly think Nero is town and Boonskiies is scum.
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Post Post #6837  (isolation #665)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:57 pm

So, Thor jailkept Pine-scum and that's why there was no kill on that side.

Boon shot Pine because he (correctly) thought that Pine was scum. Thor absorbed the shot.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6838  (isolation #666)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:00 pm

I don't know, Thor, I feel we're passing everything Boon does off as derp town.

Like, he says that he was trying to bait-absorb a shot last night instead of hoping for a crosskill.

From a town perspective, that makes literally no fucking sense unless he somehow got powered up from one of the BP-shots being used up.

I am considering his reactions when Pine claimed Mafia. They did seem off at the time, but I was Werewolf hunting at that point so didn't really go too far into it.

In retrospect, however, they're pretty suspect.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6852  (isolation #667)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:41 pm

Pine, my boy, the game is up.
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Post Post #6854  (isolation #668)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:13 pm

In post 6839, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6838, T S O wrote:Like, he says that he was trying to bait-absorb a shot last night instead of hoping for a crosskill. From a town perspective, that makes literally no Smurfing sense unless he somehow got powered up from one of the BP-shots being used up.

I intentionally jailed someone I was fairly convinced was scum - how is his concept different from my own? Both of us were, in effect, trying to stop a kill at the cost of protecting scum.


Firstly, because his "plan" involved him acting like scum in the thread, and yours did not. This sacrificed his credibility as town needlessly and could have led to his lynch.
Secondly, because IF he was shot night 1, as he said he thought he was, and both scum tried to kill him because he was acting like scum - he would die.
Thirdly, because him absorbing a shot essentially does nothing but that, whereas there is more information off your block.

In post 6839, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6838, T S O wrote:I am considering his reactions when Pine claimed Mafia. They did seem off at the time, but I was Werewolf hunting at that point so didn't really go too far into it.

I don't recall any of those twiging to me - I'd love to see your thoughts on that period.


Sure.
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Post Post #6855  (isolation #669)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:14 pm

So, Pine, are we abandoning the "scum shot me twice" theory?

Even though you're the scummiest person in the game so it makes perfect sense for you to have absorbed two shots if you were town?
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Post Post #6859  (isolation #670)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:01 pm

So, who thought Boon was scum over you? Me? Nero? Someone else?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6860  (isolation #671)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:03 pm

Because Nero was calling Boon/Pine all day yesterday - so I see no reason for him to take the additional risk of Boon lying and shoot Boon when literally everyone was telling him it was you.

I very clearly wasn't calling Boon-scum until today's events.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6861  (isolation #672)  » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:08 pm

I was going to point out you were calling me and Nero "super townie" yesterday, until I realised the only scenario plausible in any way where you could be town would be with Boon and Thor as town. So you had to call us scum, no matter what.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6878  (isolation #673)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:34 am

In post 6875, Thor665 wrote:You do all realize that - by a substantial margin - TSO is out-towning all of you.
TSO.
What the hell peeps?


I appreciate the sentiment in one respect, but should this really be surprising? I am town, and generally in my towngames I'm townread a lot.

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Post Post #6879  (isolation #674)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:44 am

In post 6876, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6871, Thor665 wrote:Your output over the past week has been exceedingly poor

I *might* agree with this mainly 'cause this dayphase hasn't been going on for a week. I've also been a major contributor to the past two scum lynches and I am very likey to be correct on the last two scum. (pine and boons) Why are you pretending like I need a bizillion posts? My content is good, my reads are good thus I don't need 554776654656885656556 posts to be an active contributor.


I actually quite like this post and its anti-appeasement.

In post 6863, Pine wrote:I think it's kind of adorable how much TSO has poured on the turbo against me. He needs for attention to be so far off of him that he gets overlooked


Well, if you want, you can go back and look at yesterday. In case you weren't reading, what happened was that I was consistently pushing you as a Wolf, either with Thor or with Slandaar. So, no, I have been pushing you as scum since before today.

On another note, this post makes no sense at all. "Oh, look, TSO is pushing me really hard! He wants to get attention so far off him no-one will notice him! And that's why he's being so open and vocal about pushing me!"

But you can continue posting empty rhetoric and fluff, Pine, I am sure that'll save you come lynch today.

In post 6874, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6862, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6856, Boonskiies wrote:@Pine - who's the wolf, who's the mafia? I'm really starting to lean Nero-Wolf (shot me), and TSO-Mafia (shot you).

Why is that? (he asked - kind of expecting this question to be ignored as all others before it had been)

@Boon - I fething loathe you.


I too am feeling this right now.
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Post Post #6880  (isolation #675)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:45 am

I should really have snarked more at Pine's ridiculous post in retrospect, but oh well. An opportunity missed.
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Post Post #6883  (isolation #676)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:09 am

In post 6881, Thor665 wrote:@TSO - speaking of which, you were also going to give me some Boon v. Nero feedback. How is that coming?


Swimmingly - and by that I mean I haven't started it yet but plan to do so very soon.

In post 6881, Thor665 wrote:I feel like this is a repeat of yesterday, where I announced my reads and reasons, and then other people took weeks to even vaguely present their reads,a nd then we lynched. Is this the thing to do in late game now? We don't debate each other on reasoning anymore? I don't get it.


I've announced my reads, and I've given decent reasoning for them so far. Again, you can't just lump me in with the likes of Pine and Boon here.
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Post Post #6884  (isolation #677)  » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:19 am

In post 6859, T S O wrote:So, who thought Boon was scum over you? Me? Nero? Someone else?

In post 6860, T S O wrote:Because Nero was calling Boon/Pine all day yesterday - so I see no reason for him to take the additional risk of Boon lying and shoot Boon when literally everyone was telling him it was you.

I very clearly wasn't calling Boon-scum until today's events.


I would also love for you to respond to this, Pine - otherwise I might have to assume you have no response, and I'm sure that's not the case.

And, to prevent giving you a chance to further your current record of doing nothing at all - you've already given a fluffy jibe and no-one accepted it, so please, not again.
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Post Post #6904  (isolation #678)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:56 pm

In post 6885, Thor665 wrote:I'd like to get feedback from you on the Boon v. Nero question.


When you ask this, are we assuming that Pine's gonna flip WW? Because the question is different if we aren't.

Also, bump. Get fucking posting.
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Post Post #6907  (isolation #679)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:02 pm

In post 6905, Nero Cain wrote:TSO-one of Thor/Boon is scum. Who is it and why?


Boon.

In post 6906, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6904, T S O wrote:
In post 6885, Thor665 wrote:I'd like to get feedback from you on the Boon v. Nero question.

When you ask this, are we assuming that Pine's gonna flip WW? Because the question is different if we aren't.

Assess both possibilities then.


Oh for fuck's sake, Thor, I'm barely posting in multiple games, my hw is through the roof, and you're asking me to do out both of them? The fucking two of them?
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Post Post #6912  (isolation #680)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:51 pm

Yes, I really did expect when I signed up in this game mid-September that I would still be in this position come February. :roll:
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Post Post #6913  (isolation #681)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:53 pm

Like, seriously, fuck me but I have given a lot to this game and been pretty goddamn active here and still you randomly tell me to replace out.

The last time we got a replacement was Pine, look at how content from that slot soared.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6914  (isolation #682)  » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:55 pm

In post 6909, Thor665 wrote:I don't even understand how herculean of an effort you think this is - all I'm asking you to do is assess two slots for scum/town possibilities within the scope of this game that has two scum factions.

How much time does that take you roughly?


I don't know? It'll take me a rather long time, at any rate. I mean, I don't know what you want me to even do - VCA, associatives, gut?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6922  (isolation #683)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:18 pm

No, Boon, you're not getting your unneeded quicklynch.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6923  (isolation #684)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:18 pm

I will do this later tonight, I promise. Sorry if I'm getting pissed lately, it's a very stressfilled time.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6933  (isolation #685)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:19 pm

I liked where Nero was coming from there - Scripten was trying to act as a mediator between us and take a position of authority when Nero and I had, for once, not had any rude exchanges when we were together. Nero and Scripten also discussed n1 reads for quite a while before anyone else showed up, which seems pointless, esp. since this was like 15-20 posts iirc.

I do not think Nero is Wolf from these exchanges - Scripten's positioning and posturing felt like he thought he was the lone scum in the hood and was trying to be the voice of authority.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6934  (isolation #686)  » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:21 pm

Unfortunately, I still worry a little about Nero being Mafia because I posted in the QT that I disliked his vote on Flubber when it was just me and him and I'd actually forgotten I'd disliked that but if I get the same impression off it I originally did it could be a meaningful associative.

But I still lean Boon.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6940  (isolation #687)  » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:23 pm

Well, Pine, you calling me Mafia when I've shown exactly why I'm not Mafia and not responding to anything I asked ages ago is hardly going to change my view ...?

But you have to call me scum of some sort, my man. I get it. It's cool. I'll still love you.

Anyway, yeah, p2 coming tonight.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6946  (isolation #688)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:46 am

self-meta at this stage of the game is worse than useless, Boon.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6947  (isolation #689)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:47 am

Yeah, Thor, I've decided Boon is more likely scum than Nero - I'll lay out my workings tonight, school on now.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6953  (isolation #690)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:24 am

no what the fuck
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Post Post #6954  (isolation #691)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:25 am

This could actually be a pointer to Boon-scum - he thinks Pine is scum and realises he needs Pine alive or Thor will just jail him tonight after we lynch Pine, so he's going for a mislynch because he loses otherwise.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6977  (isolation #692)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:17 pm

In post 6203, Pine wrote:Fuck it

I am a Mafia Goon

Lynch me and Town loses

Thor + Boon

In post 6207, Boonskiies wrote:He's lying.

In post 6208, Boonskiies wrote:As a wolf, a mafia claim is golden.

In post 6209, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 6208, Boonskiies wrote:As a wolf, a mafia claim is golden.


in this situation. I feel the fact that he wasn't going to be lynched quite yet shows that he just thought up the fake claim and the possibility that it would work. It gets people off his lynch because we don't want to lynch mafia. he's a wolf!!!!!!

In post 6214, Boonskiies wrote:I don't think he's mafia. I honestly don't.

In post 6215, Boonskiies wrote:If you look back on both mafia lynches, Pine was on both of their wagons. He joined on the Reinoe wagon right in the middle. He hammered flubber. Scripten had put his vote on Pine, but Scripten was the only one there, which I feel he was just voting his buddy for later vote count analyses.


Within minutes of Pine claiming there is this huge knee-jerk reaction from Boon which is basically him screaming that Pine isn't Mafia.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6978  (isolation #693)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:18 pm

Thor, can we stop interacting with confscum and come talk to me?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6980  (isolation #694)  » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:46 pm

#6977.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #6983  (isolation #695)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:09 am

In post 6981, Thor665 wrote:Not much to say about it. I agree with what you see but don't consider it a home run.


It's not the full thing, don't worry.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7014  (isolation #696)  » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:33 pm

Pine, imagine if I was the one to end your little life

How would that feel
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7017  (isolation #697)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:56 am

I should have hammered instead of waiting to see if everyone was ready. Boon, quit this bullshit - it's not playing with your emotions to randomly suggest NC is scum.

Pine, I'm seeing Boon as Mafia - you're not, so while I wait for Boon to derp back to us for no reason, you can answer that.

I have no interest in discussing your alignment, please don't make it about your alignment.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7021  (isolation #698)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:31 am

Do you actually think I'm Wolf?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7026  (isolation #699)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:26 pm

Because I thoroughly expect Pine to flip Wolf, but still feel rather dirty about being considered Wolf.

I refuse to comment on any of Boon's actions.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7030  (isolation #700)  » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:10 pm

In post 7020, Thor665 wrote:If Pine flips Wolf I'm going to jail Boon.
If Pine flips Mafia I'm going to jail TSO
If Pine flips town I'm going to jail Nero.


So, you think that, assuming Pine flipping Wolf, Boon is most likely Mafia, assuming Pine flipping Mafia, I'm most likely Wolf, and assuming Pine flipping town, Nero is most likely ...either?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7038  (isolation #701)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:15 am

In post 7033, Thor665 wrote:Everyone always goes so quiet at these points.

It's kind of annoying, because I usually translate that as a scum tell - yet all of you are doing it multiple times. It bugs the living feth out of me.


Well, your first post was at 3 am, and your second at 7:30 or so - I do this thing called bed usually. :wink:

In post 7037, Pine wrote:Ehh, there's an outside chance that Boon is completely bullshitting the BP claim, and no kill happened because he shot at me. I rather think he's town tho


Do you think he's town by play or by claim? If it's the former I completely fail to see it - if it's the latter I'm getting more and more doubtful of the claim itself being true at all.

Also - good game, Pine. You were playing well until your defense of Slandaar - that was what swung it irrevocably for me.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7039  (isolation #702)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:18 am

I guess it's possible he's town, maybe. My main problem as town is confirmation bias'ing the fuck out of my scumreads - I was convinced yesterday that Thor was Pine's Wolf buddy and I think it was only the set-up spec which led me to stop calling him Wolf.

I'm fairly sure I'll be doing a hard reset if I'm alive tomorrow anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem hopefully.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7040  (isolation #703)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:19 am

but goddamn it boon why do you act so fucking scummy if you're town

we had a real bonding moment yesterday where I felt you were playing well and then you started derping around like a madman.

please.

no more derp.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7068  (isolation #704)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:00 pm

In post 7051, Boonskiies wrote:Also, I've been on every single one of the wagons that lynched Mafia/Werewolf. Every single one of them.


As has Nero, and I bar one - where I called bullshit on Prime-Night Cop being a thing and voted Beast over reinoe. I don't know about Thor.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7089  (isolation #705)  » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:20 pm

Nero, why didn't you reply in the Neighbourhood when I asked you about Boon?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7096  (isolation #706)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:02 pm

If this is nonsense I swear to god I will be so fucking pissed
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7102  (isolation #707)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:05 pm

You are really, really, really not confirmed town.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7103  (isolation #708)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:06 pm

Like it's not as bad as I thought it would be but that's not saying it actually has much basis at all.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7105  (isolation #709)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:40 pm

In post 6117, T S O wrote:I think Boon could be Mafia because he's so damn eager to get a lynch today that isn't him; he could be a Wolf, really, but I can't make myself believe he is.


I'm going through my ISO and all along I've been calling Boon as Mafia - I will be sickened if I vote Nero and it's Boon.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7107  (isolation #710)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:44 pm

I think the kill also points to Boon rather than Nero - I think that Boon-scum could have sent the kill in hoping Thor would psych himself out of his claimed action. Shooting me or Nero would be risky given that if the kill was actually able to get through there'd be a 50% chance of a block anyway and Thor would just jail Boon in LyLo. Nero killing Thor doesn't make as much sense because if Thor flipped full Jailkeeper, and the set-up had no even-night PR to suggest Thor being odd-night, then it would be a 1v1 against me in LyLo with conftown Boon. I really don't think Nero would make that move as scum with the current scenario. I just don't.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7108  (isolation #711)  » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:47 pm

Boon trying to confirm yourself does nothing to alleviate my read on you - no VCA will do it either. Either show convincing interactions ruling you out as Mafia or making Nero Mafia. Trying to confirm yourself is only wasting time and my patience.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7125  (isolation #712)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:10 am

Claiming town.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7126  (isolation #713)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:13 am

Vote: Boonskiies

I've been saying it all throughout the game - he's the one I wanted to lynch today. Dragging it out is just painful for me.

If Nero's not town, wp.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7128  (isolation #714)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:17 am

I think we were all tired, in the end.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7130  (isolation #715)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:20 am

Thanks.

I guess if you're a Serial Killer, you win, but I felt Boon was the more likely SK.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7132  (isolation #716)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:25 am

Yeah, it would have been hard to get me lynched today.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7134  (isolation #717)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:29 am

I am quite proud of this game, I'll admit. I didn't think I could pull it off.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7138  (isolation #718)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:36 am

And, it must be said, props to Pine for not revealing his team's kills - it was a sporting gesture.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7139  (isolation #719)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:39 am

Also props to the Werewolves for consistently shooting PR's!
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7140  (isolation #720)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:39 am

Anyway, looking forward to postgame - gg all.
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Post Post #7142  (isolation #721)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:53 am

If anyone's reading the thread, I've been listening to The Storm all morning - I'll gift it to you.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7144  (isolation #722)  » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:58 pm

Thank you!
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Post Post #7153  (isolation #723)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:43 am

I don't think there's anything in the Mafia PT that would give me issue with releasing it.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7160  (isolation #724)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:34 am

In post 7158, goodmorning wrote:You pulled out a good game, TSO. I'm not even mad, Town deserved to lose after the dave lynch.


Thank you!

In post 7159, Thor665 wrote:
In post 7158, goodmorning wrote:You pulled out a good game, TSO. I'm not even mad, Town deserved to lose after the dave lynch.

Town deserved to lose after a Day 2 lynch of town?
Followed by 4 scum lynches in a row?
I disagree with your concept of logic - town lost because scum basically refused to shoot other scum and town was dying in droves despite accurate lynching.


It's like shooting people you expect to flip town but are dangerous isn't a legitimate tactic at all!
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Post Post #7161  (isolation #725)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:37 am

From my team's POV, we shot Egg n1, who we expected to flip town, n2 we shot Fonz, who I -think- we also expected to flip town, n3 we shot Beast, who we knew would flip town, n4 we shot Axle who we expected to flip town, n5 we went for the Pine-scum shot and were correct but the kill was stopped, and n6 we shot you, who we knew would flip town.

So it was a pretty deliberate tactic, really - you act like scum should always try to shoot other scum when that's not really the case. Like, for example, this game - we didn't do it and ended up winning.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7164  (isolation #726)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:40 am

And the Werewolves shot town PR's 3/4 nights, so their shooting wasn't bad either.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7165  (isolation #727)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:43 am

In post 7162, Thor665 wrote:Depends on your endgame - but I hardly think 'lack of cross kills' is an empty commentary about town's loss in this game.
Do you disagree?


It most certainly played a part, I'll grant you.

In post 7163, Thor665 wrote:Also, I do think your n4 and n5 shots were bad shots considering the state your team was in, yes.


Axle was really the only one particularly suspicious of me - I agree a WW crosskill could arguably have worked better but I felt WW's would be searching for crosskills on the last Mafia and at least one of them might townread me enough to not shoot me. Them consolidating reads seemed likelier to end up with TSO-town than a paranoid lone gunner.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7168  (isolation #728)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:52 pm

I am claiming that I felt confident enough that I would not be lynched in LyLo with Axle dead that the shot became optimal for me. It's your subjective opinion that "not lylo > lylo" is always true and so my Axle shot was poor - it is mine that it's not and so my Axle shot was -the- optimal shot.

In relation to your second point - the Pine shot, presuming Pine killed (and why would he not), would have put me directly into 3-man LyLo - which was the best case scenario for me. Killing town, and presuming Pine would do the same (which would have been the case) would put me to 1:1:1 Kingmaker... so how exactly is Kingmaker optimal as opposed to 3-man LyLo? Especially since, if Nero was alive, he would quite probably have chosen the not-me scum faction to win?

And the kills I took put me in quite literally the best LyLo I could have had - so they seem pretty optimal to me.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7170  (isolation #729)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:08 pm

In post 7169, Thor665 wrote:
In post 7168, T S O wrote:I am claiming that I felt confident enough that I would not be lynched in LyLo with Axle dead that the shot became optimal for me.

That was meaningless unless you knew who the Wolves were.


How so? Everyone alive was townreading me to various degrees.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7173  (isolation #730)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:47 pm

In post 7171, Thor665 wrote:Because whether or not you were lynched had nothing to do with you then having enough sway to create plurality on a Wolf nor of the Wolves having multiple chances to take you out.


I have no idea what this means, but I'm fairly sure I disagree with it.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7174  (isolation #731)  » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:48 pm

With Axle in the game, I stood a higher chance of eventual lynch.
If Axle was somehow WW, I stood a significantly higher chance of death by nightkill.

Axle was the best shot for me, period - I don't know how you fail to see this.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7191  (isolation #732)  » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:05 am

In post 7180, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 7168, T S O wrote:would put me to 1:1:1 Kingmaker...


Its not a king maker.

Town claims town and says,
<day start>
claim town
vote: nolynch

Have at it guys, feel free to shoot me, so as to aid the other guys win con.... :)


When playing to win con,... Both scum only have the choice of shooting at the most likely to be scum other guy and praying the other guy stiffs up and shoots the towny....

1v1v1 is not king maker.

Note scum do that too. Both scum claims town votes no lynch and tries to wifom the other guy into shooting the actual towny...

With informed players:
1v1v1 (without a BP) is decided in the shoot out not the lynch.

With derp, then as normal anything can happen.


It's a choice - but I'll grant you it's also possible.

But the point of me explaining this was saying that 3-man LyLo with 1 Mafia > 1:1:1, especially in the light of Pine's flip.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7194  (isolation #733)  » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:38 am

I rather agree with Slandaar here, to be honest.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7198  (isolation #734)  » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:38 pm

In post 7196, Aneninen wrote:TSO, just one question.

Did you deathtunnel me because of my read on you and Csareo? ^_^


Eh, yeah, kinda. Like, I also had reasons to do it, but I think I needed to discredit you firstly.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7199  (isolation #735)  » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:40 pm

I agree with Slandaar that Thor's saying scum shooting was terrible was wrong - the proof was this was that at 6 alive 3 were scum. If bad shooting gets you to that scenario, I need to do it a lot more.
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Post Post #7201  (isolation #736)  » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:35 am

Thank you!

Aegor, those PT's would be cool.
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Post Post #7203  (isolation #737)  » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:30 pm

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Give me the goddamn PT's
I'll keep bumping til you do
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Post Post #7214  (isolation #738)  » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:27 pm

Okay this is beginning to become disgraceful - release the goddamn PT's please.
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Post Post #7215  (isolation #739)  » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:28 pm

If you release the PT's, I may even release my case on Aneninen!
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Post Post #7217  (isolation #740)  » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:58 pm

Well, it's been a week, and no PT's.
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Post Post #7220  (isolation #741)  » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:00 pm

In post 7203, T S O wrote:Roses are red
Violets are blue
Give me the goddamn PT's
I'll keep bumping til you do
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7224  (isolation #742)  » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:15 am

I have no problem with seeing them.
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Post Post #7226  (isolation #743)  » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:20 am

oh slandy you flirt
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Post Post #7228  (isolation #744)  » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:11 pm

I don't mind.

What I do mind, however, is the issue of these goddamn PT's. I'm going to start kicking ass and taking names shortly.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7232  (isolation #745)  » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:33 pm

Egg, that was us. General threat.
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Post Post #7236  (isolation #746)  » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:48 am

who's a red apart from zoro/mith

would mith open this if I asked
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7238  (isolation #747)  » Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:00 pm

Zor didn't respond, chamber told me to message a red, Flay can't be messaged... putting it up to mith.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #7241  (isolation #748)  » Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:52 pm

Thesp, you truly live up to your nickname.
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