In post 1118, Egg wrote:You'll have to explain it then because that's how I'm reading it
What I called terrible was you pairing the two thoughts. I clearly never called either individual thought terrible.
Why don't you walk me through how you read it?
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:You claim that because in your mind, SK + scum is part of the games that are multiball group, the odds are really good. PereV was clearly not thinking about SKs when he made his judgement, that you could be scum with TMI. This makes his concern more reasonable than you seem to be willing to consider. I would read you as scum for this kind of stuff, but even Thor has his limitations. Besides I see other stuff in your filter.
I trimmed this down - you are actually failing to show why anyone would actually consider it scummy. Which has been a failing of this wagon for some time.
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:Here, in the following well know quote, you are being more certain than the previous posters that the game was multiball. (did you forget you said that?) (certainty is now described? HUH?)
I am actually not being more certain than the previous poster.
The previous poster, in fact, is *ruling out* multiball with fair certainty to justify why his presented read is okay.
I am saying there is no reason to rule it out and it is safe to presume it - so his stance is strange.
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:
It also shows that I was using the term multiball to refer to SKs as the point was about scum/scum interaction.
No actually, and very precisely, I only saw you indicate we should include SK after you had seen the data. While i believe you very likely actually think of MB as being including SK, I dotn actually know that that was nota convenient thing you added in later once you had seen the data.
No actually - read my words.
Tell me what I meant by multiball when I was questioning Nero.
Explain to me how what I said makes ANY sense if I WASN'T talking about SKs.
I'll wait.
Hint: what I said makes no sense unless you include SKs...which is one of the reasons Pere suspecting it is scummy.
Also - even when Pere was presented with that info he didn't adjust his tune at all - and I also invited him to explain how it wasn't what I meant, and he didn't. (he couldn't)
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:It only has to be true that pereV thought it might be scum tell. Him being wrong about the stats you "showed" blah blah is only him being right or wrong?
The point is whether or not he should have thought it was scummy.
You appear to have a language barrier, so I can accept that you might be reading things wonky.
Pere has no such excuse. So why did he read it as scummy? That's the scumtell on him.
No - in fact I have been very clear about what I'm claiming, and have repeated it many times.
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:Now that is a problem, his limited explaining of his point of view.
and yeah the fact that I can make up a reason a Town PereV might do what he did doesnt mean he did it for that reason.
the fact that i can make one up and i wanted to see if he had one is one very good reason i stayed well out of the argument until you specifically quizzed me here.
He has had many chances - if he was going to do it he would have.
Why do you think he hasn't?
I think it's because he's scum - what's your theory?
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:Even if I can find them, unless I decide to bet the game or at least my life on it i wont be defending PereV like that. Also WTF for, if he cant (given his experience) perhaps he does really want to be in the game.
Its what I perceive a rather large lack of towny intentioned play in TSOs filter that I was referring too. If I understand TSO correctly, Lately he has indicated he is answering questions with reading the posts he is responding too.
Sorry, I thought you were defending Pere.
Okay - what do you think of the quality of his answers given thus far?
I have explained why I will not, and also pointed out the similarities of our cases and why my case is superior. You have offered empty thoughts about Pere that fail to make it clear to me why you see the TSO wagon as so much stronger - especially considering you clearly seem to find dodgy answers scummy in TSO...but Pere has been dodging *longer* and with more people than one asking him...so why is he "seeing legit things maybe" and not TSO?