NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER

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Post Post #4150  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:09 am

Votecount 2.13

[6]Thor665: goodmorning, Izariael, reinoe, Flubbernugget, davesaz, Josh_B
[4]Josh_B: Scripten, AxleGreaser, Slandaar, Shiro
[2]davesaz: TierShift, Thor665
[2]Flubbernugget: Nero Cain, The Fonz
[1]Boonskiies: T S O
[1]Izariael: Boonskiies

[1] Not Voting: beastcharizard

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Post Post #4151  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:15 am

In post 4149, Izariael wrote:
In post 4146, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4141, Boonskiies wrote:I plan to get to Lylo on this, because everything I said makes sense.


Scum have to get past lylo to win. Why if you are town are you planning that town will ever be at lylo?
It may all make sense to you. Maybe not to everyone else though.

Boon play the game not just your purposeful VI meta.


I really like the thought process of this post. Axle may be noisy in thread, but gems like this give me the impression that he isn't scum.

whiteknight the derp town more.
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Post Post #4152  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:31 am

Derp town or not, it's still better than anti-town, so yeah, I'll take it.
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Post Post #4153  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:32 am

We are not going to agree to anything here are we ?

@Thor Dave wagon is going to oblivion and it is going there fast. Like u said to us either sell the wagon so people sheep it or vote someone that might go anywhere other than nowhere.

You accusse people for not pushing yada yada but the last couple days your pushes have been pretty weak to none existant.
Have u even pushed any wagon past 3 votes ?

@Boon can u do anything other than nothing ? If you think iz is scum and u still think that thing in our hood was a slip then vote Thor and be productive.

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Post Post #4154  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:52 am

In post 4152, Izariael wrote:Derp town or not, it's still better than anti-town, so yeah, I'll take it.

ok? that has like nothing to do with anything.

SRS question, we aren't going to flip Boons today and maybe the next day so what do you hope to accomplish by continuing to fuss about Boons?
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Post Post #4155  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:12 am

I fail to see why people could be townreading him, unless it's his meta to lurk incessantly and tunnel blindly, but that's about the extent of my interest in him at this point. I just find it rather amusing that he lurks for days, then comes back to offer nothing new and another vanity vote that will achieve very little, if anything, then completely shuts down any attempts to engage him on it.

I'm really not understanding your point about fussing. I asked a question. He evaded it twice, so I continued to ask for a proper answer. If that's fussing, then damn do we have a lot of fussiness in this game, and every game ever.
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Post Post #4156  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:36 am

In post 4101, Flubbernugget wrote:My favorite part of the Fonz's case is where he says I'm not pushing a lynch on a lurker.

Btw my case was based on the fact that he was distanced from the game, which he no longer is.


Oooh, feel the dishonesty. It's palpable. You did nothing wrt him for a long period which was sandwiched by posts calling him scum. Ergo, your claim that you changed your read (which, BTW, you never indicated) does not apply to the period I'm talking about.

BTE - slightly meta diversion - why do people assume that when I'm talking about lack of pushing scumreads, I mean lack of talking TO them rather than to other players ABOUT them?

I'm also being criticized for seeing an interaction as scum v. scum and wanting to push a lynch on the stronger player of the interaction. That's fun.


Criticism? Odd word choice. I think the choices you have made, while defensible for town, are particularly beneficial for scum. Unlike the incredible disappearing Dave read, I don't think this is a position you'd be that unlikely to take as town - just that it makes rltactical sense as a scum line. Though note, this is the first time I can recall you explicitly saying you believed it scum/scum.

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Post Post #4157  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:23 am

In post 4151, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4149, Izariael wrote:
In post 4146, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4141, Boonskiies wrote:I plan to get to Lylo on this, because everything I said makes sense.


Scum have to get past lylo to win. Why if you are town are you planning that town will ever be at lylo?
It may all make sense to you. Maybe not to everyone else though.

Boon play the game not just your purposeful VI meta.


I really like the thought process of this post. Axle may be noisy in thread, but gems like this give me the impression that he isn't scum.

whiteknight the derp town more.

(as no one was wking boon there)

How do you know the derp is town?

If the Derp is known to you to be town (and you are town), why cant that just be a read by another towny?

As you seem quite convinced the derp is town, whats the white knighting protecting from?

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Post Post #4158  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:42 am

In post 3889, Flubbernugget wrote:Slandar replaces my dave scumread.

In post 3895, Flubbernugget wrote:Yes I know.

And slandar still replaces my dave scumread.


Cuz fonz can't read.

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Post Post #4159  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:47 am

In post 2264, Flubbernugget wrote:@Thor here's your reads list.

I think Thor and PV are both anti-town roles. SK and scum, or multiball, or whatever. Hell, maybe it's scum v. scum. It doesn't really matter. They're way to eager to cram up the thread with multiball bullshit nobody wants to read. It's apathetic and scummy.



Also cuz fonz can't read.

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Post Post #4160  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:57 am

Does anyone know Thor's meta to know well enough to say whether his drop in interest / reduced push is alignment indicative?

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Post Post #4161  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:18 pm

Can someone give a recap on the last ~300 posts because I'm not likely readong them soon.

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Post Post #4162  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:34 pm

Vote Thor? As I don't think any other wagon can grow legs, and this isn't one of the extremely rare situations where a NL is good for town.

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Post Post #4163  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:47 pm

In post 4161, TierShift wrote:Can someone give a recap on the last ~300 posts because I'm not likely readong them soon.


A bunch of nothing put into 300 posts. We are in the exact same position we were when you left unable to agree in anything

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Post Post #4164  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:53 pm

In post 4144, AxleGreaser wrote:I dont get consistent feel for his flow of thought from him,
so yeah its another bit,
Its certainly not a towny feel.

You have identified that his reads for me are unclear - that was clear the instant he indicated he'd vote me for a deadline reason and I bullied him into doing it now.
I don't think that makes it scummy.

In post 4153, Shiro wrote:@Thor Dave wagon is going to oblivion and it is going there fast. Like u said to us either sell the wagon so people sheep it or vote someone that might go anywhere other than nowhere.

And yet it is tied for third largest wagon in the game right now.
It is not going to oblivion, it has gotten stronger within the past 24 hours. if you moved to it then it would be the solidly third largest wagon and a strong contender for 2nd place (or tied for second? I forget)

Why not move and reinvigorate it?
It's less dead than your wagon of choice at the moment.

In post 4160, davesaz wrote:Does anyone know Thor's meta to know well enough to say whether his drop in interest / reduced push is alignment indicative?

:neutral:

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Post Post #4165  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:55 pm

In post 4150, Aegor wrote:Day 2 deadline: 3 days, 4 hours, 34 minutes

Also, people - you *still* haven't forced a claim from me. Why do all of you fail?
If no one is willing to vote me from the non-voting mass maybe you should move.
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Post Post #4166  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:04 pm

In post 4164, Thor665 wrote:And yet it is tied for third largest wagon in the game right now.
It is not going to oblivion, it has gotten stronger within the past 24 hours.


Yea it stands in it's L-7 Glory. How did I miss that

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Post Post #4167  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:09 pm

I do not deny it is weak.
But in the context of this game it is of above average size.
And, again, by the sheer act of you moving a vote it would become tied for 2nd strongest wagon - and the Thor wagon has been sitting at 'someone man up' for some time now and no one is stepping up, meaning that the only way that one is happening is deadline. Which means, if you think I'm town, you might as well shake things up. And if you don't think I'm town, then work to put me at L-1 with a hammer intent and stop wasting time.

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Post Post #4168  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:11 pm

In post 4167, Thor665 wrote:Which means, if you think I'm town, you might as well shake things up. And if you don't think I'm town, then work to put me at L-1 with a hammer intent and stop wasting time.

Really, this is my boggle at the moment.
Everyone not moving a vote is functionally voting for me...except they are refusing to do it till deadline for some stupid reason.

So either move votes - or vote me. Pick one you narf-heads.

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Post Post #4169  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:38 pm

Mm. K.
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Post Post #4170  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:47 pm

In post 4161, TierShift wrote:Can someone give a recap on the last ~300 posts because I'm not likely readong them soon.

Thor says he has a PR. That's about it.
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Post Post #4171  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:48 pm

@Boon - dude - you vote sucks. What are you even doing there while posting empty gak?

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Post Post #4172  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:49 pm

@Shiro

VOTE: Thor
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Post Post #4173  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:51 pm

Can I get some cred tomorrow for calling thor town pls

Or can we just lynch someone else today thx

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Post Post #4174  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:56 pm

@Boon - thank you for finding a set.

I'm now at L-2.

Again, people should either vote me to force the claim or move their votes somewhere useful.

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