NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER

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Post Post #5447  (isolation #200)  » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:53 pm

In post 5436, Flubbernugget wrote:Also back your meta read up


which meta read?
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Post Post #5453  (isolation #201)  » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:31 pm

it's just the feeling I get from flubber. it's died down recently, but usually he's push boon, push boon, oh...boon's town.

@sland - everytime I see a BP claim, I usually see them get lynched.
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Post Post #5455  (isolation #202)  » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:30 am

I was just commenting. It wasn't necessarily a read.
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Post Post #5456  (isolation #203)  » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:31 am

I have no intention of voting you or pressuring you. All I said really was if you got pressure and it didn't come off town-like I'd be willing to vote you.
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Post Post #5524  (isolation #204)  » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:26 pm

@Slandaar - I feel Iz talks in a way that he knows more than we do. That is my main case for him being scum. Neighborhood night 1 was full of it.
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Post Post #5574  (isolation #205)  » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:38 pm

If this wasn't multiball and Nero still had his vote on Iz there is no way I'd be voting Iz. I hate multiball.

VOTE: Iz

I've explained my reasoning toward Iz since the beginning of Day 2.
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Post Post #5817  (isolation #206)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:40 am

Prod dodge.
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Post Post #5823  (isolation #207)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:59 pm

In post 5818, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5576, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5574, Boonskiies wrote:If this wasn't multiball and Nero still had his vote on Iz there is no way I'd be voting Iz. I hate multiball.

VOTE: Iz

I've explained my reasoning toward Iz since the beginning of Day 2.


Hi, please check that i have the right reasoning, that i found near the start of D2.

In post 2563, Boonskiies wrote:Anenien was very prominent in our neighborhood last night, along with Iz. I claimed that I have a protective role in the thread, and also asked who people thought would be worth protecting. I did not claim any role, nor will I be doing so toDay. The way I said it made it seem like I had a limited use, which Iz pointed out in the thread also. I feel Iz thought he could get some town cred by not killing me after I claimed that I was a protective role, since he most likely thought I was just some noob not knowing what to do, and since he thought I slipped that I had a limited power role, he'd be fine not killing me. I expect there to be at least one scum in my neighborhood, since we are the biggest neighborhood, and Anen is now dead. Goodmorning, Shiro, and Iz have at least one scum there, and I'm banking on it being Iz.


Is that correct?

In post 5817, Boonskiies wrote:Prod dodge.


There are people that want to lynch you.
I have been one of the ones that doesn't.
I get more and more prickly the longer I wait for what ought be trivial clarifications.




I believe I did actually end up claiming Day 2. But yeah, there's quite a bit of stuff I put out on Iz; i pushed him for a while.
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Post Post #5825  (isolation #208)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:03 pm

He's not.

VOTE: Flubber
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Post Post #5826  (isolation #209)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:04 pm

I think Nero is mafia, and Flubber is a wolf.
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Post Post #5827  (isolation #210)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:04 pm

Flubber probably believes I am mafia as well.
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Post Post #5832  (isolation #211)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:49 pm

I had a reason for not wanting Pine lynched, but I can't seem to remember it now.
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Post Post #5835  (isolation #212)  » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:08 pm

Iz was the one contemplating all that stuff, not I. Sure, I could have been shot night 1, i made a post on my theories, but they were just theories. I originally thought Iz was scummy based on how he was talking to me acting like he knew what had happened. I think you are mixed up somewhere.
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Post Post #5875  (isolation #213)  » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:18 pm

In post 5836, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5835, Boonskiies wrote:Iz was the one contemplating all that stuff, not I. Sure, I could have been shot night 1, i made a post on my theories, but they were just theories. I originally thought Iz was scummy based on how he was talking to me acting like he knew what had happened. I think you are mixed up somewhere.


Nope not me that mixed up.
The question is whether you re mixed up scum or town.

You claim you are a two shot BP. (who hence cant be killed N1)
You claim due to stuff that happened in the hood, Iz would get town cred for not killing you (N1).
You conclude that as you didn't die N1, Iz tried to get town cred by not shooting you?

How do you know you were not shot N1?
Everyone else still alive knows they were not shot N1 as they are still alive, as they are not a BP.

You also seem to think that you being alive, means, you were not shot?

If you are in fact BP, how come you believe Iz (or some other scum) didn't shoot you?



Iz and I had a whole conversation on this early day 2, and a little of day 3. I don't know if I was shot night 1 or not. It would make sense if I was, due to how Iz was going about. Someone else in my neighborhood could have also shot me. I don't know. I said before that I think it's highly likely that I got shot Night 1, but I have no way to prove if I did or not.
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Post Post #5982  (isolation #214)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:18 pm

Pine/Thor are wolves. Nero is mafia.
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Post Post #5983  (isolation #215)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:18 pm

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #5984  (isolation #216)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:19 pm

If not Nero, then TSO.
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Post Post #5987  (isolation #217)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:30 pm

Neighborhood 1: Aneninen, Izarieal/DGB, Goodmorning, Shiro, Boonskiies
Neighborhood 2: Scripten, Nero Cain, davesaz and T S O
Neighborhood 3: Egg, Thor, Peregrine

Is it odd that only one scum found has been in the neighborhoods? Only the 1 werewolf. No mafia member has been in a neighborhood.
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Post Post #5988  (isolation #218)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:32 pm

This is the Pine wagon at max:

[4]Pine: Thor665, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, AxleGreaser
[2]Flubbernugget: Nero Cain, T S O

These are the players on the final wagon:

[6]Flubbernugget: Nero Cain, T S O, Thor665, Boonskiies, Shiro, Pine -- LYNCH

Thor and Pine changed that wagon. Thor was bussing Pine early, and when the Pine wagon picked up steam he jumped to the next wagon. He pushed it hard.
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Post Post #5989  (isolation #219)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:32 pm

WOLVES!!!!!
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Post Post #5990  (isolation #220)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:39 pm

I take what I said about TSO back. Nero Cain and Slandaar are the only possible outcomes to be mafia, and I don't think Slandaar would be so hard against Reinoe days ago. Nero is mafia.

But we do need to hit a wolf today, so back to Pine/Thor.
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Post Post #5993  (isolation #221)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:48 pm

No reason. Had to pick one. I'll happily switch over to Thor.
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Post Post #5997  (isolation #222)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:26 pm

GRAY is unflipped who are not mafia.

[7]PeregrineV: Egg, Thor665, Muffin, Scripten, davesaz, The Fonz, Boonskiies
[4]Thor: goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, PeregrineV
[3]Aneninen: T S O, Pine, Shiro
[2]T S O: AxleGreaser, Aneninen
[1]Shiro: reinoe
[1]Scripten: DGB
[3] Not Voting: Slandaar, beastcharizard, Tiershift
=========================

[5]Aneninen: Shiro, Muffin, Tiershift, Pine, T S O
[5]PeregrineV: Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, Boonskiies
[4]Thor665: goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, DGB
[1]Egg: davesaz
[1]goodmorning: Slandaar
[1]Scripten: PeregrineV
[1]Slandaar: Aneninen
[1]T S O: AxleGreaser
[1]Shiro: reinoe
[1] Not Voting: beastcharizard
=========================

[12]PeregrineV: Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, davesaz, Tiershift, Shiro, T S O, Pine, AxleGreaser, Muffin, Boonskiies -- LYNCH
[4]Thor665: goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, DGB
[1]Aneninen: PeregrineV
[1]goodmorning: Slandaar
[1]Shiro: reinoe
[2] Not Voting: beastcharizard, Aneninen
=========================

[5]Boonskiies: T S O, DGB, flubbernugget, Pine, Muffin
[2]flubbernugget: Nero Cain, The Fonz
[2]Shiro: Thor665, Slandaar
[1]AxleGreaser: davesaz
[1] Pine: Scripten, Boonskiies
[1]DGB: Tiershift
[1]Thor665: goodmorning
[5] Not Voting: beastcharizard, reinoe, Shiro, AxleGrease
=========================

[7]Thor665: goodmorning, DGB, reinoe, flubbernugget, davesaz, Pine
[4] Pine: Scripten, AxleGreaser, Slandaar, Shiro
[2]flubbernugget: Nero Cain, The Fonz
[1]Boonskiies: T S O
[1]davesaz: Thor665
[1]reinoe: Boonskiies[/color]
[1]Slandaar: Tiershift
[1] Not Voting: beastcharizard
=========================

[6]Thor665: goodmorning, DGB, reinoe, flubbernugget, davesaz, Pine
[4]Pine: Scripten, AxleGreaser, Slandaar, Shiro
[2]davesaz: Tiershift, Thor665
[2]flubbernugget: Nero Cain, The Fonz
[1]Boonskiies: T S O
[1]DGB:Boonskiies
[1] Not Voting: beastcharizard
=========================

[9]davesaz: Thor665, Pine, AxleGreaser, The Fonz, Shiro, Slandaar, Nero Cain, beastcharizard, reinoe -- LYNCH
[4]Nero Cain: Boonskiies, T S O, Tiershift, DGB
[3][color=#BFBFBF]Thor665
: goodmorning, flubbernugget, davesaz
[1]beastcharizard:[color=#FFFF00] [color=#FFFF00]Scripten
[0] Not Voting:
=========================

[5]beastcharizard: Thor665, reinoe, Shiro, AxleGreaser, Boonskiies
[5]reinoe: beastcharizard, Slandaar, Nero Cain, Pine, flubbernugget
[1]Thor665: goodmorning
[2] Not Voting: DGB, T S O
=========================

[7]reinoe: beastcharizard, Slandaar, Nero Cain, Pine, flubbernugget, Thor665, Boonskiies
[2]beastcharizard: reinoe, T S O
[1]Slandaar: DGB
[1]Thor665[/color]: goodmorning
[2] Not Voting: AxleGreaser, Shiro
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Post Post #5998  (isolation #223)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:27 pm

[b]unvote[/vote]
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Post Post #5999  (isolation #224)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:27 pm

unvote
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Post Post #6000  (isolation #225)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:37 pm

I could see a Pine/TSO wolf team. But I'd have to be trusting of Thor being town at that point, which I'm not yet.
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Post Post #6001  (isolation #226)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:40 pm

Pine is really the only reason I'm even doubting Thor being a wolf. I actually don't see a way where Pine isn't a wolf. He's basically 100% confirmed wolf from my perspective. And honestly, out of Thor/TSO, one of you should also be seeing that Pine is 100% confirmed wolf.

VOTE: Pine

I'm secure putting my vote here.
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Post Post #6004  (isolation #227)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:55 pm

Well, the remaining wolves are out of you, Pine, and Thor, and there is no way that you and Thor are partners with each other. I guess I'm forgetting about Slandaar potentially being a wolf...fuck. Still. Pine is a wolf. I'll iso him later.
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Post Post #6005  (isolation #228)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:57 pm

Who do you think the wolves are then, TSO?
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Post Post #6006  (isolation #229)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:00 pm

[4]Pine: Thor665, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, AxleGreaser
[2]Flubbernugget: Nero Cain, T S O


Unfortunate how all three of these people just happened to die last night, and that Thor now doesn't suspect Pine at all.
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Post Post #6007  (isolation #230)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:01 pm

Guess what? All 3 of those players were town also!! We wouldn't have switched to Flubber so easily if Pine wasn't a scum slot.
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Post Post #6012  (isolation #231)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:19 pm

Alright, I'm going to bring in some of my neighbor talk now. Shiro, DGB, and I had all discussed the fact that we thought Pine was 100% a wolf. DGB misread Flubber's alignment, which is why she switched from Pine mafia to Pine wolf. DGB was super excited because of how obvious and how the wolves had a perfect textbook voting pattern after analysis.

Also, DGB was positive that Pine is a wolf, but she was unsure if she'd be able to convince people. We talked about it, and the people who would have supported a Pine lynch were Myself, DGB, Shiro, Axel, and Slandaar. DGB's potential mafia list was: Nero, Axle, Shiro, Slandaar, and she had a case on how Thor and Shiro changed a certain voting pattern. I'm sure she shot Shiro. Pine made the decision to kill DGB, and with Shiro/Axle flipping town there is NO possible way that Pine isn't scum.
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Post Post #6014  (isolation #232)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:22 pm

PINE IS NOT MAFIA
PINE is WOLF

THOR IS NOT MAFIA . chances are he's probably a wolf

TSO is NOT MAFIA.

those were also some key points, so I'm actually willing to start town reading you, TSO.

Also, Pine attacking Thor earlier seemingly makes me want to forget about pushing Thor, and calling TSO/myself/Thor the remaining town.
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Post Post #6015  (isolation #233)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:23 pm

In post 6013, T S O wrote:DGB actually -did- think it was Thor and Pine, though.



Yes, and that was the basis of our night talk. It's the main reason I started pushing them.
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Post Post #6016  (isolation #234)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:26 pm

In post 5925, Slandaar wrote:I will claim after Pine.

Pine/Thor/Boon. Pine maf, Thor, Boon wolf.

Seems really good.



I'm beginning to feel a Slandaar/Pine scum wolf team, actually. By saying Pine is mafia, if we truly end up believing that, we will absolutely not lynch Pine today, or we lose the game. Also, Thor and myself are the easiest two to try and mislynch. it makes sense from a wolf perspective.
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Post Post #6017  (isolation #235)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:28 pm

In post 6009, T S O wrote:I also find your complete lack of paranoia or worry quite strange, given that we're in LyLo. You are casually throwing your vote around, completely nonchalantly, yet the fact is that if Pine is the Mafia, we quite simply lose, and if Pine's town, we still quite probably lose.



I am not casually throwing my vote around. I am damn sure of Pine wolf.
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Post Post #6018  (isolation #236)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:34 pm

In post 5832, Boonskiies wrote:I had a reason for not wanting Pine lynched, but I can't seem to remember it now.


Re-remember it, please.[/quote]

It had to do with me not trusting Nero, and Nero being on the wagon. But I think Nero's mafia, and Pine's wolf, so it's irrelevant.
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Post Post #6024  (isolation #237)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:43 pm

DGB would have been able to state better reasons than I would, and she would have been the hardest to defend against.
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Post Post #6028  (isolation #238)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:45 pm

i meant anyone else, not just I.

We talked it over in the neighborhood. She definitely felt Thor had a big chance at being a wolf partner, but ive kind of drifted from that. Nero/Slandaar were her possibility of mafia, along with Shiro/Axle, who have flipped town.
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Post Post #6029  (isolation #239)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:46 pm

If Pine was mafia, there wouldn't have been a counterwagon onto Flubber.
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Post Post #6032  (isolation #240)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:51 pm

In post 4134, Josh_B wrote:I don't think I've ever been told not to vote someone so vehemently especially in a situation where others actually thought the person I was voting was scum.

It's clear that Thor is today's wanted lynch. Considering the recent play, Thor seems to be holding onto to a claim the closer we get to deadline, the harder it will be to reverse a wagon if it goes higher.

I'm putting my vote back on Thor.

VOTE: Thor

In post 4207, Josh_B wrote:
In post 4164, Thor665 wrote:Why not move and reinvigorate it?
It's less dead than your wagon of choice at the moment.


^This... is actually what I'm seeing from the game too. Thor is actually right that there isn't much vote movement. I don't feel like there's time for me to seriously put any pressure on anyone else, but I can tell that this is going to be a much different game for me.

In post 4153, Shiro wrote:You accusse people for not pushing yada yada but the last couple days your pushes have been pretty weak to none existant.
Have u even pushed any wagon past 3 votes ?


^Having no support for any of his pushes would actually alignment indicative of town Thor. However, they have thus far been shallow, reaching, and vague. I'm agreeing with Shiro, but I think this is just being used to throw dirt. Shiro where are you at in the game?

pedit: ninja'd
ppedit: ninja, ninja, ninja'd
ppedit: uggh why wait until the last second?

In post 4215, Josh_B wrote:Thor, I don't understand why you would want a GM lynch earlier if you Jailkept her. What were the results?

In post 4244, Josh_B wrote:
In post 4219, Thor665 wrote:
In post 4215, Josh_B wrote:Thor, I don't understand why you would want a GM lynch earlier if you Jailkept her. What were the results?

The results were that I submitted a JK on GM.
How do you think I should have read it?


It didn't have any affect.- unless you feel like a third NK is missing. But even then it's 50/50 on whether or not you blocked her or saved her, so that's null.
The claim has no use at this point other than saying that you're a named townie.

VOTE: dave

In post 4505, Josh_B wrote:
In post 4484, reinoe wrote:EBWOP: Also thor was also pushing GM at the time. Again, if you think the GM push is scum motivated am I wrong in thinking that you should be putting your vote on thor? After all...

thor was pushing GM+JOSH thinks the GM Push is scum motivate=josh' vote should be on thor who doing things scum motivated.

Is the above equation wrong? Are you saying you think thor is town but axle is not? Please elaborate.


I don't have fully developed context of everyone's position in the game yet. I am starting to get a better understanding of how the thor/GM situation started. And after Thor's recent post I'm starting to think that Thor's position is more OMGUS on her part.

Axle's position seems more organic. If I'm going to point fingers at the GM wagon (that has interest and not votes) It seems like Axle is more the proprietor of GM scum than Thor. I think you would know that though, and point the finger that way instead.

This game is multiball right? I'm going to vote Dave right now and see if there's more to Axle than meet's the eye. I can't vote everyone calling for a GM wagon at once, but dave, slandaar, scripten, and Axel are more interesting to me in that situation than Thor is right now. And I'm voting Dave.

In post 4525, Josh_B wrote:
In post 2579, Boonskiies wrote:Stop fucking skimming.


In post 2599, AxleGreaser wrote:stop fucking skimming


This is actually amusing, and not in a ha ha sort of way either. GM you're in the neighborhood, what are your reads on Iz and Shiro.

In post 4545, Josh_B wrote:
In post 4537, AxleGreaser wrote:But to me not as scummy, hence likely to flip scum, as the people I have been voting today.


Then I have to ask you, how do you feel about all of the support the wagon has even though it looks like this..
In post 4048, Aegor wrote:Votecount 2.12
[1]goodmorning: Thor665


you should be voting Dave with me. These...
In post 4006, davesaz wrote:<Dave thinks some in the shower>
CLICK!
:idea: :!: :!:

VOTE: goodmorning

Reason: Gamestate ephiphany

Thor, how certain are you that GM is the right player to wagon at this time? Just a sniff, rock solid, somewhere in between?

In post 4047, davesaz wrote:
Mafia roles are also power roles. I guess our PR isn't town.

VOTE: Thor


make it an excellent vote. and if I'm right, it's going to clear both GM and Thor.

In post 4787, Josh_B wrote:
In post 4748, AxleGreaser wrote:VOTE: Josh_B
GarmrSlot


Can you please move your vote to actual scum?
It would probably look like this

VOTE: Thor

In post 4840, Josh_B wrote:I believe beast.

VOTE: reinoe

In post 4985, Josh_B wrote:OK nothing new has really happened. I still believe beast charizard's claim over reinoe's. because...

In post 4945, reinoe wrote:I did nvestigate boon. I got a [color=#FF0000]not-mafia result. Cuz you know his claim was dicey and that's what a good cop would do.


doesn't make total sense when there's a werewolf faction.



Pine's predecessor. Fluff fluff fluff, targets easy targets and is generally kind of scummy. I see why there were wagons on him. I don't see him partnered with Thor though.
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Post Post #6033  (isolation #241)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:52 pm

everything on that wall, points to him being a werewolf over mafia.
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Post Post #6035  (isolation #242)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:57 pm

In post 6034, T S O wrote:Boonskiies, if you're a WW, you're a damn better player than I thought.

Actually, you're a better player than I thought, full stop.



Appreciate it. It just takes a while for me to get my point across.
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Post Post #6039  (isolation #243)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:29 pm

I fail to see how that makes me scum? Because you are calling it a bad case? I never implied that you were the one responsible for killing all of them. It was just a lucky coincidence that they were the three that died. You are squirming now. You are calling me scum because you are being targeted with what you think is a bad case. It is not alignment indicative at all.
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Post Post #6041  (isolation #244)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:48 pm

@TSO

In post 5988, Boonskiies wrote:This is the Pine wagon at max:

[4]Pine: Thor665, Shiro, DrippingGoofball, AxleGreaser
[2]Flubbernugget: Nero Cain, T S O

These are the players on the final wagon:

[6]Flubbernugget: Nero Cain, T S O, Thor665, Boonskiies, Shiro, Pine -- LYNCH

Thor and Pine changed that wagon. Thor was bussing Pine early, and when the Pine wagon picked up steam he jumped to the next wagon. He pushed it hard.



You called me scum once you realized I was the only chance of you getting a mislynch.
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Post Post #6042  (isolation #245)  » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:49 pm

that quote was directed from this, TSO.

In post 6031, T S O wrote:
In post 6029, Boonskiies wrote:If Pine was mafia, there wouldn't have been a counterwagon onto Flubber.


Where did this happen?



the second part was directed at Pinewolf.
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Post Post #6047  (isolation #246)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:14 am

In post 6046, Nero Cain wrote:So lets take a look at VCA sans Axle mafia biasness.

Scripten was voting for Cho, Thor and Josh B and Ren's slot has voted for TSO, Cho, and Thor. Flubber has voted Thor and Boon.

prob not mafia-Thor, TSO, Boon
prob not wolf-thor, pine


This makes me think that one of Slandaar/Pine is the last mafia. My guess is Pine.

Leaving Slan, TSO, Boon as containing the last two wolves.


You think a scum wouldn't ever vote for their buddy? Wow. What are your claims for either Pine and Thor being 'prob not wolf' when everyone in my neighborhood was saying that they are most likely the wolf team. On top of that, why do you feel Pine is mafia over wolf? I have shown exactly why he CAN'T be mafia, and is in fact the last wolf.
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Post Post #6051  (isolation #247)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:43 am

I don't recall being in a game with you ever?
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Post Post #6052  (isolation #248)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:44 am

there was no reason for the Pine wagon to go from mafia pine to mafia flubber. It was a counterwagon. Flubber was a different alignment. Pine and Flubber are not the same alignment. Pine is a wolf.
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Post Post #6057  (isolation #249)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:00 am

Nero was the reason I was hesitant on Pine yesterDay. I think I'm blocked, but is there a possibility of Nero being a wolf? Because it's never crossed my mind.
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Post Post #6058  (isolation #250)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:00 am

In post 6056, Nero Cain wrote:I assume we are going the "lets lynch a wolf so the mafia crosskills"?

I'm fairly confident that Boons is wolfscum but I am also heavily considering a no lynch. Discuss!


No no lynch. If mafia doesn't cross kill correctly, wolves win.
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Post Post #6060  (isolation #251)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:04 am

Do you not fucking read, Nero? I said it's never even fucking crossed my mind that you were a wolf. God, I really hate that I think you are mafia because I think you are just too damn ignorant to have made it this far.
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Post Post #6062  (isolation #252)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:08 am

i got epic tunnel vision on mafia nero.
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Post Post #6070  (isolation #253)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:09 am

HOLY FUCK IT'S THOR AND SLANDAAR!

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Post Post #6073  (isolation #254)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:28 am

I'm looking for wolves.
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Post Post #6075  (isolation #255)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:38 am

VOTE: Thor
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Post Post #6076  (isolation #256)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:55 am

unvote

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Post Post #6102  (isolation #257)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:30 pm

K, I'm back to Pine 100% wolf now. Thank you, Thor.
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Post Post #6103  (isolation #258)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:36 pm

VOTE: Pine
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Post Post #6105  (isolation #259)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:12 pm

In post 6105, Pine wrote:lol scum



scum claim, let's lynch it.
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Post Post #6107  (isolation #260)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:29 pm

In post 6107, Pine wrote:
In post 6106, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 6105, Pine wrote:lol scum



scum claim, let's lynch it.

Asshat claim, let's get it to fuck off



probably, but doesn't make me scum. ;p
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Post Post #6108  (isolation #261)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:30 pm

Isn't a horrible when you are scum, Pine, and that one annoying troll character just want stop pushing for you. ;P
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Post Post #6110  (isolation #262)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:07 pm

was he as trolly as I?
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Post Post #6112  (isolation #263)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:01 pm

musta not seen my earlier game, HA!
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Post Post #6114  (isolation #264)  » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:56 pm

if you think I'm scum, why are you not voting me? In fact, you think I'm a wolf.
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Post Post #6120  (isolation #265)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:40 am

In post 6118, T S O wrote:I support a Pine lynch, I think Pine will flip WW.


Then vote him.
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Post Post #6125  (isolation #266)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:45 am

TSO, I will not be clearing Slan or Nero.
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Post Post #6126  (isolation #267)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:46 am

We just have to hope for the best in the night.
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Post Post #6127  (isolation #268)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:48 am

*prays to DGB, Shiro, Goodmorning* My neighborhood...my all town neighborhood. <3 I'm sorry if I screwed up here. I really feel Pine is a wolf, though. Here's hoping. It makes sense from all standpoints. Here's hoping TSO is actually town.
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Post Post #6139  (isolation #269)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:54 pm

If anything, I'd think you guys would push me as mafia over wolf.
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Post Post #6148  (isolation #270)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:31 pm

@TSO - Pine is still 'convinced' I'm a wolf, when if I'm anything, I'd be mafia. If I was a wolf, this lynch on Pine would be much easier because I would have another vote added on.

I've been after Nero for being scum ALL game. I happen to just think he's mafia.

Thor's been pushing me, and was pushing me as probable mafia, along with Slandaar. Both of them are thinking I'm bs right now.

Which leaves my only possible partner as a werewolf to be you, T S O, unless you think that Pine and I are wolf buddies, which would be a laughable situation. It doesn't make sense for me to be a wolf due to the fact that this game would be over by now if I was.
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Post Post #6149  (isolation #271)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:32 pm

The fact that we have two votes on Pine, and we are stalling so much should also prove that Pine is a confirmed wolf. Wolves are freezing the game to try and stop their lynch. I just can't figure out who Pine's partner is, so hopefully we get lucky during the night.
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Post Post #6152  (isolation #272)  » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:58 pm

Cool. Took you long enough.
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Post Post #6156  (isolation #273)  » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:04 am

Pine/Thor distancing themselves from each other now. Nice.
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Post Post #6158  (isolation #274)  » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:56 am

Thor/Slandaar/Nero does not make up the wolf buddies, as they would have hammered you and won. I'm really confident with my vote.
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Post Post #6167  (isolation #275)  » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:28 pm

I don't see how you can possibly be mafia.

@Thor - the wolf buddies aren't both in that group of 3. One of the three of you are pines partner, though.
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Post Post #6170  (isolation #276)  » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:59 pm

I'm beginning to believe Nero is Pine's partner.
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Post Post #6176  (isolation #277)  » Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:38 pm

In post 6171, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6167, Boonskiies wrote:I don't see how you can possibly be mafia.

@Thor - the wolf buddies aren't both in that group of 3. One of the three of you are pines partner, though.

And you think we all look to be likely?

Well, I know I'm town. I'm pretty sure TSO is town. Which makes only one of the three of you town by POE.
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Post Post #6180  (isolation #278)  » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:18 am

No, but you can claw me to death.
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Post Post #6187  (isolation #279)  » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:49 pm

if he was mafia, wolves would have gotten him lynched by now.
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Post Post #6188  (isolation #280)  » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:50 pm

He has a partner somewhere, and it's either Slandaar or Nero (where are you?). I've been starting to town read Thor more and more the past few pages.
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Post Post #6196  (isolation #281)  » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:24 pm

@Nero - thoughts on Pine?
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Post Post #6198  (isolation #282)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:51 am

Pine/Slandaar are wolves; Nero is mafia. End of story. Let's end this game.
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Post Post #6200  (isolation #283)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:26 am

I'm basically POE'ing at this point. I believe Nero to be mafia. TSO town, and I really want to believe you are town. Regardless, Pine is a wolf. We should lynch it.
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Post Post #6202  (isolation #284)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:09 am

Slandaar could be wrong, tbh. My gut is mafia on Nero, and that's what's controlling the you/Slandaar. Pine's wolf. Like, vote count, play style, everything.
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Post Post #6207  (isolation #285)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:09 pm

He's lying.
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Post Post #6208  (isolation #286)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:10 pm

As a wolf, a mafia claim is golden.
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Post Post #6209  (isolation #287)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:14 pm

In post 6208, Boonskiies wrote:As a wolf, a mafia claim is golden.


in this situation. I feel the fact that he wasn't going to be lynched quite yet shows that he just thought up the fake claim and the possibility that it would work. It gets people off his lynch because we don't want to lynch mafia. he's a wolf!!!!!!
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Post Post #6214  (isolation #288)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:38 pm

I don't think he's mafia. I honestly don't.
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Post Post #6215  (isolation #289)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:44 pm

If you look back on both mafia lynches, Pine was on both of their wagons. He joined on the Reinoe wagon right in the middle. He hammered flubber. Scripten had put his vote on Pine, but Scripten was the only one there, which I feel he was just voting his buddy for later vote count analyses.
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Post Post #6217  (isolation #290)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:05 pm

why the hell should the actual mafia claim? it will pretty much lose them the game regardless. Pine had no reason at all to claim there.
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Post Post #6220  (isolation #291)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:11 pm

it actually makes me want to vote Thor over Pine almost. Almost...
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Post Post #6226  (isolation #292)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:17 pm

VOTE: Thor

I don't see why not at this point. We're gonna be fucked either way.
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Post Post #6227  (isolation #293)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:18 pm

VOTE: Pine

I'll stay on Pine until he responds to some stuff, actually.
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Post Post #6231  (isolation #294)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:23 pm

And that's exactly why fake claiming mafia as a wolf is a good play. There's 6 people. If one of the two wolves claim mafia, it makes the odds so much greater for them. They have a lynch pool of 4 different people they can lynch and be fine. They fail, they're still alive. They really don't have much to lose. Town and mafia, on the other hand, LOSE if they don't lynch one of two people today. It's an obvious fake claim.
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Post Post #6234  (isolation #295)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:30 pm

I know that, T S O. Also, there is no reason him as mafia would be going this route.

I think I'm willing to change my vote to Thor.
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Post Post #6238  (isolation #296)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:22 pm

VOTE: Thor

I still think Pine's a wolf, but I initially was going for Thor/Pine partners, so now I'm back to this.
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Post Post #6239  (isolation #297)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 6227, Boonskiies wrote:VOTE: Pine

I'll stay on Pine until he responds to some stuff, actually.



I'm confident enough not to wait after all of this.
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Post Post #6240  (isolation #298)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:26 pm

If Slandaar/Nero are the wolf team, I'm gonna flip a lid.
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Post Post #6242  (isolation #299)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:00 pm

why would someone as mafia counter claim?
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Post Post #6243  (isolation #300)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:09 pm

If Pine is a wolf, and mafia counter claims, that auto wins the game for wolves unless mafia gets a lucky crosskill. Wolves will shoot mafia in the night and win the game.
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Post Post #6245  (isolation #301)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:13 pm

2. which is why it's nearly flawless of a plan for wolves. it's not an autowin if mafia gets a lucky cross kill. we would have one more day.
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Post Post #6246  (isolation #302)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:14 pm

No, no, no. Pine is trying to draw out the actual mafia. agh....i dont know who to vote.
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Post Post #6248  (isolation #303)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:16 pm

you and pine are wolves together. that's the issue.
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Post Post #6252  (isolation #304)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:34 pm

In post 6250, Thor665 wrote:
In post 6248, Boonskiies wrote:you and pine are wolves together. that's the issue.

Yes - anyone could be partners to Pine - how is that an issue specifically for me?

In post 6249, T S O wrote:I'll make it nice and easy to understand, Thor.

Okay.

In post 6249, T S O wrote:Pine could be Wolf, or could be Mafia.
Pine has claimed Mafia today, but we have to lynch a Wolf. Therefore, we can't lynch Pine if Pine's telling the truth or we lose.
However, Pine could be lying, and could be a Wolf - making our odds of lynching a Wolf quite low.
A silly man called Thor665 is auto-clearing Pine, because no-one has counterclaimed Pine's Mafia claim yet.
He does not understand that counterclaiming would be suicide for the Mafia player, and so there will not be a counterclaim.
Because there won't be a counterclaim, this means that Pine has been cleared, for nothing, with no proof.

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. Okay?
6. Yes.

What's the issue though?
Because as far as I can tell, the only way your fear matters (no mafia counterclaim and Pne is Wolf) is if we lynch Mafia - and if we start to lynch Mafia I am willing to wager we will get a Mafia counterclaim.

So...what's the issue?
How is this bad for town?



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Post Post #6257  (isolation #305)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:00 pm

either way, Thor or Pine have to be lynched toDay I feel.
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Post Post #6259  (isolation #306)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:00 pm

I wish NERO would post.
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Post Post #6260  (isolation #307)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:01 pm

unvote

let me analyze again....ugh.
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Post Post #6262  (isolation #308)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:11 pm

Uhm...day 1, i epic implied I had a PR. night 1 Izariael seemed super suspicious, so i tried to lure a NK. day 2 i came in thinking I was shot or never was going to be shot, so i just ended up claiming my role. that's the basis, I think. It was a long time ago, haha.
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Post Post #6264  (isolation #309)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:22 pm

I'm willing to believe it's Thor and Slandaar. I'm not voting yet, though.
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Post Post #6268  (isolation #310)  » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:42 pm

Thirded. Replacement will be detrimental I feel.
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Post Post #6271  (isolation #311)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:16 am

I think Pine's mafia. I don't think this setup has more than two VT's. Have TSO/Slandaar/Nero claimed? I think it may be beneficial if they did.
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Post Post #6272  (isolation #312)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:17 am

In post 6271, Boonskiies wrote:I think Pine's mafiaWOLF. I don't think this setup has more than two VT's. Have TSO/Slandaar/Nero claimed? I think it may be beneficial if they did.


was thinking the word scum and mafia, yeah...I do NOT think he's mafia. I repeat. I do NOT think he is mafia.
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Post Post #6274  (isolation #313)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:16 am

No lynching leaves this game way up to chance. We aren't no lynching. It's Thor or Pine.
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Post Post #6289  (isolation #314)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:09 pm

No lynch doesn't benefit town at all. If wolves shoot mafia, and mafia shoots town, wolves auto win.
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Post Post #6293  (isolation #315)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:11 pm

VOTE: Pine

Well, now that we know he's not mafia...
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Post Post #6297  (isolation #316)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:18 pm

It's thor or pine, because I am town reading T S O, and I think Nero is mafia.
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Post Post #6298  (isolation #317)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:19 pm

I am enthusiastic town. This is no different than how i usually play as town. I get the "why you voting in mylo?!?!?" speech quite often.
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Post Post #6303  (isolation #318)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:31 pm

boon-town
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slandaar/thor-wolf
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Post Post #6304  (isolation #319)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:31 pm

Thor, I agree. Meaning we lynch Pine toDay.
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Post Post #6307  (isolation #320)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:35 pm

I still felt that he could be mafia, but you gave a good argument, I guess. I did suspect him, as I said either you or him were the last wolf. If that's the case, we should just lynch Pine. We all universally agree pretty much that he is the wolf. Actually, you make a good point about mafia probably being in one of the neighborhoods. I don't think you'd bring it up if you were mafia, which helps me have even more confidence in my Nero mafia read.

Pine/Slandaar, Nero. = scum. let's lynch Pine.
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Post Post #6313  (isolation #321)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:38 pm

We agree that he's the lynch? Have to convince Slandaar or Nero to vote him, though...ugh.

@TSO - No, everyone in the hoods are not clean. We don't have that mafia neighbor flip yet.
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Post Post #6314  (isolation #322)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:39 pm

for today's lynch, you meant. My bad. Yes, they are clean.
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Post Post #6320  (isolation #323)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:41 pm

WAITT!!!! PINE CAN'T BE A VT LIKE HE CLAIMS!!!

there are 8 spots not in the neighborhoods.

2 are VT, 2 are town PR's, 2 are mafia slots that have flipped. The final two are werewolf slots. Pine/Slandaar are the werewolf team. no doubt about it.
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Post Post #6327  (isolation #324)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:46 pm

Yes. 5 person neighborhood, 4 person neighborhood, 3 person neighborhood, 2 of everything else, including infiltrators into the neighborhoods. It's a masquerade!!! 4 corners.

@Thor - I explained why i thought Nero was mafia day 2 or 3, I believe. I'm still stuck on it. A lot of it now is gut, but I have thought he was mafia for days now.
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Post Post #6329  (isolation #325)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:51 pm

Ugh...i don't remember. that was forever ago. right now it's a POE thing. I feel you, me, and TSO are the three town, pine/slandaar are the wolves, which makes Nero mafia by default.
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Post Post #6331  (isolation #326)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:52 pm

In post 4242, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4236, Thor665 wrote:
In post 4233, Boonskiies wrote:Can you guys pay the Smurf attention at all? I unvoted. Smurf damn ignorance. I don't want Thor lynched. Stop being held up on something completely irrelevant, and actually read what happened.

They did.
It does matter.
It doesn't matter that you unvoted later.
Stop playing poorly and people will stop questioning your sloppy and scummy looking moves.

Who would you like to lynch now?



No. It doesn't fucking matter. What I said? Yeah, that does. What Nero keeps misinterpreting what I said? No, that doesn't matter at all. I'm fucking sorry that I thought Reinoe was scum in the game I referenced, oh boo hoo! I made a mistake. You all are perfect and never make mistakes. Nero's been talking about PL multiple times throughout the game, and also only reads parts of posts and gets held up on them. Posts things exactly how they happen and fill everything else up with fluff.

VOTE: Nero

My first actual scum read all game. Iz is more gut, Thor is my whatever vote. Fuck.


@Nero - I can handle people hating my play. Hell, I hate my play this game. You are scum because you twist people's words around, and take things out of context and mix with fluff. Also, you have been constantly being secure not to feel like you are doing anything with scum intentions (which is to the point of over feigning sincerity and ingenuity).
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Post Post #6332  (isolation #327)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:52 pm

In post 4248, Boonskiies wrote:Look at Nero's ISO. It looks a lot like he's actually doing something, but he's doing less than I am. He's asking open ended questions that don't really mean anything, and repeating what has already been said. He's whiteknighting the hell out of certain people, he's not actually giving any reads. He's only voted like 3 different people, and they have all been people that are easy to mislynch. He asks questions like..."What are your thoughts on Thor, and why?" Which is a fine question, but when his questions are ALL similar to that, he's not actually basing any of his reads off that. He's freaking' scum.
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Post Post #6333  (isolation #328)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:53 pm

In post 4267, Boonskiies wrote:I'm not scum reading you for your play towards me. I voted for you because I legitimately feel you are scum. You aren't really voting anyone this game. You've voted Thor and Flubber...(not going to count TobyLoby from early game). Thor...and Flubber...come on. Two always easily mislynched people. Also, you aren't giving much information really. You are flat out sprouting fluff, repeating things that's already been said, and you are asking easy to ask questions that make it seem like you are doing something. You are playing very neutral, and seem hesitant to do anything basically. Scum tends to have that hesitance a lot, as they feel vulnerable when they are the center, and you don't have to defend anything you do because of this.
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Post Post #6335  (isolation #329)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:53 pm

In post 4288, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4282, TierShift wrote:Also nero is very high on my scum list but I have never taken the effort to ISO him. Everything he says feels wrong though.



Please ISO him. I can't see a town ISO ever looking like that.
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Post Post #6336  (isolation #330)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:54 pm

In post 4298, Boonskiies wrote:Look at Nero actively avoiding everything anyone is putting against him. He's the lynch for today, people. It is NOT a random lynch. Fonz is probably his buddy trying to save Nero by going after me instead of drawing focus on Nero.
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Post Post #6339  (isolation #331)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:55 pm

In post 4315, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4302, The Fonz wrote:
In post 4298, Boonskiies wrote:Look at Nero actively avoiding everything anyone is putting against him. He's the lynch for today, people. It is NOT a random lynch. Fonz is probably his buddy trying to save Nero by going after me instead of drawing focus on Nero.


So, seriously, who's up for putting up with this kind of 'analysis' every day until deadline? Lynch him now, or forever hold your peace!

(If Boon survives today, I will not be voting for him later on barring the aforementioned awesome case).



When Nero flips scum, I think that's enough proof that I'm probably town. Unless you think I would bus my partner from out of nowhere like that. When he flips scum, you'll have no reason to vote me after today, anyways.
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@Nero - You'd policy lynch nearly anyone. You bring it up enough in your ISO.
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Post Post #6340  (isolation #332)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:56 pm

In post 4405, Boonskiies wrote:Nero's the play toDay, boys. I'll eat my pants if he somehow (he won't) flips town.



This still applies.
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Post Post #6341  (isolation #333)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:57 pm

In post 4407, Boonskiies wrote:Axle, he thinks you, myself, and TSO are all derp town. We're also the 3 voting him, and he scum reads you two as well. Wait, he thinks you are derp town when he is scum reading you?!?! Gasp!!!! Yeah...come on...



Nero thought that Axle, myself, and TSO were all derp town reads of his. He then decided to scum read Axle and I. Hmm.....
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Post Post #6343  (isolation #334)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:57 pm

In post 4539, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4520, T S O wrote:is anyone actually townreading nero after that jump on axle

like fucking really



Freaking seriously...there's no possible way Nero's town.
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Post Post #6345  (isolation #335)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:00 pm

I feel I should be confirmed town at this point due to the Reinoe vs Beast debacle.
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Post Post #6346  (isolation #336)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:00 pm

In post 6344, T S O wrote:
In post 6340, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 4405, Boonskiies wrote:Nero's the play toDay, boys. I'll eat my pants if he somehow (he won't) flips town.



This still applies.


Nero's -not- the play today, though.


I NEVER WANTED HIM TO BE! Thor kept yelling at me to post my reasonings, even though I had this entire game.
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Post Post #6349  (isolation #337)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:06 pm

Reinoe chose to inno me with his false claim. Do you really think he'd inno his partner as mafia, where he could literally pick ANY random player not mafia and say they got a not mafia result on them?
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Post Post #6350  (isolation #338)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:09 pm

I agree that Thor doesn't make sense as mafia. I believe I should be seen as conf town. T S O is generally townie, and I don't think he's mafia. Nero IS mafia. It's why he wants me lynched, also. I will be the main person to push him, as I have all game. Pine is NOT mafia, but we all agree he is scum. It means he is wolf. It means Pine is our lynch for toDay.
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Post Post #6353  (isolation #339)  » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:14 pm

It would have been a horrible move on Reinoe's part if I was his partner. I'm able to be lynched at any moment, and had I flipped mafia, it would have outed him instantly.
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Post Post #6371  (isolation #340)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:32 am

Why Slandaar instead of Pine?
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Post Post #6382  (isolation #341)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:06 am

@Nero - I could ask you the same the regarding to Pine. It feels as if you are doing EVERYTHING you can to try and get focus off of Pine.
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Post Post #6385  (isolation #342)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:03 pm

Why do the we have to assume the neighborhoods are random? I guess it's really the only argument a wolf has at this point.
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Post Post #6393  (isolation #343)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:03 pm

Is Slandaar still not claiming? :roll:
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Post Post #6394  (isolation #344)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:04 pm

@slandaar - that's great, but Pine's not mafia.
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Post Post #6402  (isolation #345)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:51 pm

I still don't think there are four plain VT's outside of the neighbors.
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Post Post #6404  (isolation #346)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:52 pm

Can we lynch something yet?
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Post Post #6406  (isolation #347)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:55 pm

I actually don't think we should talk about mafia anymore, unless we think we'll be lynching mafia toDay.
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Post Post #6425  (isolation #348)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:44 pm

@Pine - what are your thoughts on Slandaar?
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Post Post #6430  (isolation #349)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:40 pm

In post 6429, Pine wrote:
In post 6425, Boonskiies wrote:@Pine - what are your thoughts on Slandaar?

I'm back to him being the most likely Mafia candidate. Boon threw me for a bit, but his reversion to collaborating with you and my version of setup spec puts it back to Thor/Boon vs Slandaar

TSO: Why does your third Mafia have to be a PR? It's more likely a Goon. Neither scum setup is really especially powerful, and neither has anything to block investigation.



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Post Post #6431  (isolation #350)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:41 pm

@TSO - it's not fair to town. By no means do I think there are 4 VT's in this game.
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Post Post #6433  (isolation #351)  » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:58 pm

I feel we've both been going through T S O more than anything. Also, the main reason for us communicating with the other is solely based on the fact we're the most active. If you guys want to step up and become more active, we'd most likely interact with you just as much. But it's hard for a wolf like you to put actual content or analysis at this point.
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Post Post #6435  (isolation #352)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:10 am

In post 6434, Pine wrote:No, TSO is the one you've been working so hard to manipulate. TSO is clearly the free agent here (reinforcing my perception that TSO and NC are my Townbuddies) and appears in the uninformed minority



NC's not town.
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Post Post #6437  (isolation #353)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:07 am

you don't read at all. I've been giving reasons for Nero mafia since Day 2.
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Post Post #6438  (isolation #354)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:08 am

Also, I went on a giant quote spree stating the reasons for why I think so also like 5 or 6 pages back.
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Post Post #6440  (isolation #355)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:51 am

Slandaar and I as the wolf team?!?!? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Post Post #6443  (isolation #356)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:01 am

I'll vote him, but the off chance Thor/Pine are actually wolf buddies, and Slandaar is mafia, which is a possibility, i don't to be voting quite yet.
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Post Post #6487  (isolation #357)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:49 pm

Anyone else think it's weird how Pine says vote me yet he's voting Thor?

VOTE: Slandaar

Unfortunate if Nero/Thor is actually wolf. :/
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Post Post #6489  (isolation #358)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:25 pm

Again, I believe Slandaar and Pine are wolves. I've been stating I believe Nero is mafia since day 2. I fail to see how you possibly could say I think Slandaar is mafia. I'm town reading TSO, of course I'm going to from a town mind set.
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Post Post #6491  (isolation #359)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:28 pm

Also, I came into this day pretty hard into both Pine and Thor.
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Post Post #6495  (isolation #360)  » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:52 pm

Hmm. Pine and Thor could be wolf buddies. Bus a buddy, vote a townie. CLASSIC.
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Post Post #6497  (isolation #361)  » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:09 am

I really would prefer a Pine lynch over a Slandaar lynch. I still keep forgetting Nero has possibility of being a wolf.
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Post Post #6498  (isolation #362)  » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:10 am

Although, the fact that wolves haven't pounced on Slandaar shows that he is not mafia, I believe.
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Post Post #6501  (isolation #363)  » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:36 am

okay.
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Post Post #6517  (isolation #364)  » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:06 pm

If anything, this most likely shows that Pine/Slandaar are the same alignment, and Thor/Boon are most likely the same alignment. Difference is, Thor and I are both town.
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Post Post #6524  (isolation #365)  » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:04 am

This was really just one point that Thor's reasoning is completely lacking when it comes to why Boon/Pine are wolf/mafia.


Sliiiiiiiiiiip. He thinks I'm mafia, and Pine's a wolf. The actual wolf got caught up.
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Post Post #6525  (isolation #366)  » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:05 am

I've actually become more comfortable with a Slandaar lynch than a Pine one.
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Post Post #6537  (isolation #367)  » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:13 pm

Now Slandaar thinks I'm mafia instead of a wolf. Hilarious.

Also, I have been saying Slandaar/Pine for the longest time; I will happily join a Pine lynch.
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Post Post #6541  (isolation #368)  » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:58 pm

How is anything Slandaar said different from my town play?
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Post Post #6557  (isolation #369)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:32 am

Nero...i've been pushing you since Day 2...
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Post Post #6559  (isolation #370)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:00 pm

what makes you think I'm a wolf over mafia?
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Post Post #6560  (isolation #371)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:02 pm

Also, I'm not being super lynch happy. I'm only willing to lynch Slandaar or Pine. I really don't care who at this point. I'm ready for the next step in this game, and for it to be done (even though I am enjoying it). 22 units this semester. I have gotten my mind made up on Slandaar/Pine that there isn't anyway I'm willing to vote anyone else despite what anyone will say.
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Post Post #6562  (isolation #372)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:09 pm

What happened to your Slandaar read?
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Post Post #6564  (isolation #373)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:17 pm

I was hesitant to lynch Slandaar. You thought Slandaar and I were wolf buddies. The fact that I'm voting Slandaar now, or that you think I'm partners with someone else, makes my hesitance towards Slandaar earlier as a reason moot. As a wolf, why would I be hesitant against voting Slandaar if he's not my buddy? There was no reason as a wolf for me NOT to vote Slandaar, especially after giving a possibility to his lynch. I wasn't necessarily ready for the day to be over then. I am now.
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Post Post #6566  (isolation #374)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:19 pm

Until I flip that I'm not a wolf.
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Post Post #6567  (isolation #375)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:20 pm

Why not vote Slandaar or Pine then? They're in your grouping.
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Post Post #6569  (isolation #376)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:21 pm

Bus a buddy, vote a townie. CLASSIC. (This doesn't apply to you, but I'm not sold on you being a wolf, i'm just repeating what Pine said multiple times earlier).
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Post Post #6570  (isolation #377)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:21 pm

To Nero. ^
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Post Post #6571  (isolation #378)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:21 pm

@Nero - you think I'm partners with Pine or Slandaar? LLL.
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Post Post #6572  (isolation #379)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:22 pm

Hey, Pine. We're wolf buddies now. Slandaar's not your buddy anymore, let's lynch him.
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Post Post #6574  (isolation #380)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:26 pm

I'm a village idiot character. I do stupid things. I started with Thor and Pine because I trust in DGB! It's my main reason I'm so strong on Pine wolf.
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Post Post #6575  (isolation #381)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:27 pm

I'm stupid, but I ain't dumb!
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Post Post #6579  (isolation #382)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:31 pm

I dropped Thor today, because if he's anything, he's mafia. Unless there's that possibility you and him are the wolf team...in that case. Fuck. But yeah, I see Thor more as potential mafia than wolf. I'm town reading TSO for toDay. And I know I'm town. From my perspective, I see it as one of either you, Nero, or Thor is scum. I do see a possibility of the town being Nero/TSO/Boon. Honestly, I'm occasionally getting town reads from Pine, which sucks, because I'm probably going to be the one to cost town the game for one reason or another. Which is why my vote is on Slandaar, and will probably stay there. I get absolutely no town reads from him.
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Post Post #6580  (isolation #383)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:32 pm

In post 6578, Pine wrote:
In post 6574, Boonskiies wrote:I'm a village idiot character. I do stupid things. I started with Thor and Pine because I trust in DGB! It's my main reason I'm so strong on Pine wolf.

So you're not responsible for your actions. Mmkay



Sure, I like this one. ^
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Post Post #6581  (isolation #384)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:33 pm

The potential town teams I see are Nero/TSO/Boon, Thor/TSO/Boon, Pine/TSO/Boon, or Nero/Thor/Boon. Slandaar's the only one who doesn't come up ever in that.
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Post Post #6582  (isolation #385)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:34 pm

From my perspective, that makes him a wolf. Mafia has to be in one of my potential town teams.
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Post Post #6586  (isolation #386)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:39 pm

Nero/Thor/Boon contains one scum. let's make it that.
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Post Post #6587  (isolation #387)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:41 pm

Because, again, my perspective i have that Nero/Thor has to have one. Also, give me a break on the me thinking you're scum. I've had the read since Day 2!!! You know how hard it is to convince yourself you could be wrong on something you've felt so strongly about since the beginning of the game?
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Post Post #6600  (isolation #388)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:18 pm

In post 6593, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6589, Slandaar wrote:Thor/Boon cannot both be town I do agree with that 6PR is going to be too much.


In post 6589, Slandaar wrote:11 VT

So if you think Boons and Thor are scum....which VT do you think is lying and why.



Good catch, nero. So Slandaar legitimately scum slipped this time.
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Post Post #6626  (isolation #389)  » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:37 pm

Slandaar's going for Nero now. Awesome. Pine's trying to talk people out of it. Awesome.
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Post Post #6633  (isolation #390)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:14 pm

Well, you said there were 11 VT in this game, but with the claims, that makes 12. Which means, at least one of you/pine/nero is lying. I don't remember, I was phone posting. Something's there, i dont know if it is your slip, but it's something.
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Post Post #6634  (isolation #391)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:14 pm

now, i don't necessarily agree with 11 VT, but still.
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Post Post #6639  (isolation #392)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:45 pm

Nero and Slandaar can't both be town. And Slandaar's not mafia.
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Post Post #6641  (isolation #393)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:51 pm

In post 5185, beastcharizard wrote:Nero the Hero knows this is town Beast so I doubt he will be switching his vote.

Something you will learn about me: 1. I do stupid shit that I think is brilliant. exibit A is my play here. 2. I don't plan very well by myself. 3. I am awesome

Reinoe, we both know you are going down tomorrow at the latest. If I am lynched I am flipping town so you are out of play time.



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Post Post #6642  (isolation #394)  » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:52 pm

Might not be a slip, but it still smells wolfy.
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Post Post #6649  (isolation #395)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:12 am

In post 6646, Pine wrote:Goddamnit TSO, you need to reevaluate Boon

A Slandaar!Mafia lynch loses the game for us



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Post Post #6651  (isolation #396)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:00 am

it would be goon neighbor, wouldn't it?
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Post Post #6661  (isolation #397)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:14 pm

Welp, when Slandaar flips wolf, I think it's pretty obvious Pine is the partner, with the slight possibility that it's Nero.
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Post Post #6665  (isolation #398)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:15 pm

he's not mafia; wolfy.
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Post Post #6675  (isolation #399)  » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:51 pm

@Pine - Wolves don't know who mafia is. It doesn't prove anything. Also, Slandaar says that he doubts Nero/Boon is the wolf team, yet he says Nero is a wolf and is voting me? Ha. Figures. Pine, you're doing pretty well at defending your partner here. You really are, but the gig is up. Bus your buddy.
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