NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER


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Post Post #5550 (ISO) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:11 am

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In post 5549, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 5545, Shiro wrote:Gosh I dunno flubb maybe getting the mafia so we dont waste a lynch and force a specific kill from scum ?

You do realise had we lynched beaast we would waste this day lynching rei and mafia would have had an extra kill because they wouldn't have been forced to kill beast.

For all we know both scum team could have shot beast and Gm is vig thus averting 2 deaths by getting it right.

Does this answer your question flub?


Yes. But why did you answer this now and not when it would have been useful?


Honestly ? I missed your post
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Post Post #5551 (ISO) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:52 pm

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In post 5548, Pine wrote:Salutations

I'll do some catch up, will not be reading the whole thread

What do I need to know

I'd say look at the first post for the flips and then iso the proven scum and then move forward from there. Everthing else you can pick up via specific questions.
So what are your reads after doing that?
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Post Post #5552 (ISO) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:49 pm

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I've been rereading the thread... (specifically my own ISO) found someone i want lynched the most

garmr
/Josh_b
/Pine

VOTE: Pine

not sure why I stopped, i could probably work it out. (
prefer not to as I think it involved Axle being pissy/whiny/frustrated
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Post Post #5553 (ISO) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:01 pm

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That is L-3 on Pine.
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Post Post #5554 (ISO) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:01 pm

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In post 5553, Thor665 wrote:That is L-3 on Pine.

Haven't caught up yet, gimme a day
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #5555 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:37 am

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Oh...okay.

That is 18.5 hours remaining for the day.
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Post Post #5556 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:34 am

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That deadline may be a little tough, actually. I have family obligations all day. It's Christmas week, on top of two jobs
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Post Post #5557 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:22 am

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What are your thoughts thus far?
Have you looked at the flipped scum yet?
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Post Post #5558 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:41 am

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In post 5557, Thor665 wrote:What are your thoughts thus far?
Have you looked at the flipped scum yet?

Only in a cursory manner. When I get home I plan to read their ISOs and do a full vote analysis on them
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Post Post #5559 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:16 am

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I look forward to that, and considering how eerily total silent the rest of the game went I suppose everyone else is as well.
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Post Post #5560 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:52 pm

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In post 5559, Thor665 wrote:considering how eerily total silent the rest of the game went I suppose everyone else is as well.


considering that most of them are voting someone else that seems little odd, that they would wait for Pine before driving their own wagons
but it is what it is.
perhaps they are voting one person but in reality expecting someone else to get lynched.
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Post Post #5561 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:30 pm

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Unofficial VC

[2]
Izariael:
Nero Cain, Slandaar
[3]
Pine:
Thor665, Shiro, AxleGreaser
[1]
Nero Cain:
Boonskiies,
[1]
Boonskiies:
Flubbernugget
[1]
Thor665:
Izariael


[2]
Not Voting:
Pine, T S O

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 4 deadline:
(expired on 2014-12-28 05:24:51)

I do find the lack of activity bothersome, albeit colored somewhat by Christmas.

@Mod - by-the-by, can we get a 1-3 day extension for Christmas? At the very least I am expecting basically everyone to declare (or not, but behaving as if) they are v/la for Eve and Christmas Day so that's functionally dead time to the game, y'know?


Flubb's current vote is very useless - I can't even describe his Boon push right now.
Boon's vote, with Axel's move, has become useless. He needs to start selling or move.
I actually am rather okay with Nero and Slandaar's current vote, but will admit that I favor a Flubb lynch over an Iz lynch.
Is TSO even in this game?
Pine needs to catch up and offer some thoughts.
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Post Post #5562 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:36 pm

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Random observation - Iz and Script don't look like buddies to me.
Discuss.
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Post Post #5563 (ISO) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:45 pm

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In post 5561, Thor665 wrote:Is TSO even in this game?


If he is scum why should he even bother playing?
Thread gave him a Carte Blanche do nothing pass some time ago.
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Post Post #5564 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:47 am

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Look, Thor, the reason my activity is lower than normal is because I have this customer to deal with as I have a job!!! I have a jobbbbbbbbbbb!!!!!!!!!

I have been told I am good at impersonating people. (That was my Reinoe impression)

I just don't have the time I normally do due to, yes, Christmas.

Wagons are good, probably should extend/suspend deadline for a couple days over Christmas. TSO must be due replacement, Iz must be due something too, Pineage needs to post something of worth.
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Post Post #5565 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:28 am

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In post 5562, Thor665 wrote:Random observation - Iz and Script don't look like buddies to me.
Discuss.


I do not remember any significant interaction between them to point anywhere. Why do you think so ?
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Post Post #5566 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:42 am

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In post 5562, Thor665 wrote:Random observation - Iz and Script don't look like buddies to me.
Discuss.

You can't use that 'cause Axle is against VCA.

I mean how can you guys actually think Axle is not mafia after his rubbish of a "reason" for not wanting to lynch Ren?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #5567 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:52 am

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In post 5566, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5562, Thor665 wrote:Random observation - Iz and Script don't look like buddies to me.
Discuss.

You can't use that 'cause Axle is
against VCA.


I mean how can you guys actually think Axle is not mafia after his rubbish of a "reason" for not wanting to lynch Ren?

(truck out the baseless junk)

Bullshit. Stop making stuff up. (well actually as I think you are scum go right ahead?)

I assume you are misrepresenting what i said here(in spoiler), as you never actually which post I said what you claim I said...
Spoiler: what I actually said
In post 5492, AxleGreaser wrote: [...deletia..]
Truth of the matter is you did this
In post 5463, Nero Cain wrote:Just based on votes alone.
.....

Which very specifically are not your actual reads (anytime you want) as it is by vote count analysis alone.
So you have not stated you position.

You have studiously, avoided analysisng the actual thread,
as analysing your scum buddies ISO, and either soft defending him (but not too hard) or soft bussing him but not get him lynched is way harder than doing a superficial mechanistic
In post 5463, Nero Cain wrote:Just based on votes alone.


So yeah the person not engaging with the thread in meaningful way, for fear of associative tells is you.


and yes I claim you doing VCA alone is bad.
I claim it gave you room to retract that and analyse more stuff and get different answers anytime you liked.

Also are you seriously claiming, you think I am on the same team as Ren? Even after the stuff shortly before and after
there will be reason beast checked Ren, and it wouldn't surprise me if that was good part of it.

LOL.

@thread if you guys really cant come at lynching Pine/
JoshB/Garmr
I could put together the actual case against Nero.

BUT

you would have to get your act together and not wait until deadline forces your hand.
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Post Post #5568 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:03 am

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In post 5567, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5566, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5562, Thor665 wrote:Random observation - Iz and Script don't look like buddies to me.
Discuss.

You can't use that 'cause Axle is
against VCA.


I mean how can you guys actually think Axle is not mafia after his rubbish of a "reason" for not wanting to lynch Ren?

(truck out the baseless junk)

Bullshit. Stop making stuff up. (well actually as I think you are scum go right ahead?)

oh so we are back to the "I never said that unless you quote me" thing. Wich isn't town either.

In post 5318, AxleGreaser wrote:Then when the mafia flips he looks by standard play (in SB) to be conf town. If he gets away with that and no one notices then after a maf!Reinoe lynch, then town will likely think he(beast) is town. Maf will (may) also think he(beast) is a real town cop who wont have another check until night 4. In that situation Maf who will be shooting for WW somewhat (at 2v2) may purposefully shoot around Beast because they assume he is cop and not the real threat that WW are.

Here you are pushing the idea that we should lynch Beast 'cause if Beast was right on Ren then town would think he's town and scum might think he's town and might not kill him. Yeah this is totes junk bro.

As for your "I WAS PUSHING ON REN SO I'M TOTES NOT SCUM!" I was pushing on Scripten yet you still think I'm WW. Why the diffrence?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #5569 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:10 am

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In post 5568, Nero Cain wrote:oh so we are back to the "I never said that unless you quote me" thing.


No we are at I have no idea what you are actually saying if you dont say it.

You claimed I was against VCA which I said was made up bullshit which is why i crossed it out.

I quoted something I did say. You still have not shown where I said i was against VCA.
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Post Post #5570 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:23 am

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In post 5568, Nero Cain wrote:Yeah this is totes junk bro.


Its totes not junk bro..

oooh logical impasse what now.

In post 5568, Nero Cain wrote:I was pushing on Scripten yet you still think I'm WW. Why the diffrence?


Would you like to point out where your push on scripten was such that it does not seem sensible as scum partners.
I juts went and looked and didnt find it.
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Post Post #5571 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:42 am

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In post 5564, Slandaar wrote: TSO must be due replacement, Iz must be due something too, Pineage needs to post something of worth.

What is your current read on those three slots?

In post 5565, Shiro wrote:I do not remember any significant interaction between them to point anywhere. Why do you think so ?

Have you ISOed Script and looked at his interactions with Iz?

In post 5566, Nero Cain wrote:I mean how can you guys actually think Axle is not mafia after his rubbish of a "reason" for not wanting to lynch Ren?

There was a period of time I was against lynching Reinoe also - being wrong is part of being town. What about the reason specifically says scum intent to you? Also, does this mean you're clearing him of being Wolf/Mafia whichever Reinoe wasn't?
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Post Post #5572 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:51 am

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I am here, but not for long at all.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #5573 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:28 am

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In post 5571, Thor665 wrote:Have you ISOed Script and looked at his interactions with Iz?


......

eh...no xD I just went by memory xD I will do and get back to you
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Post Post #5574 (ISO) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:38 am

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If this wasn't multiball and Nero still had his vote on Iz there is no way I'd be voting Iz. I hate multiball.

VOTE: Iz

I've explained my reasoning toward Iz since the beginning of Day 2.
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