NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER


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Post Post #5875 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:18 am

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In post 5836, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 5835, Boonskiies wrote:Iz was the one contemplating all that stuff, not I. Sure, I could have been shot night 1, i made a post on my theories, but they were just theories. I originally thought Iz was scummy based on how he was talking to me acting like he knew what had happened. I think you are mixed up somewhere.


Nope not me that mixed up.
The question is whether you re mixed up scum or town.

You claim you are a two shot BP. (who hence cant be killed N1)
You claim due to stuff that happened in the hood, Iz would get town cred for not killing you (N1).
You conclude that as you didn't die N1, Iz tried to get town cred by not shooting you?

How do you know you were not shot N1?
Everyone else still alive knows they were not shot N1 as they are still alive, as they are not a BP.

You also seem to think that you being alive, means, you were not shot?

If you are in fact BP, how come you believe Iz (or some other scum) didn't shoot you?



Iz and I had a whole conversation on this early day 2, and a little of day 3. I don't know if I was shot night 1 or not. It would make sense if I was, due to how Iz was going about. Someone else in my neighborhood could have also shot me. I don't know. I said before that I think it's highly likely that I got shot Night 1, but I have no way to prove if I did or not.
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Post Post #5876 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:19 am

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I honestly do not get why Flub is not doing anything we are in a kind of serious point in the game and honestly I would expect a townie to do his best to defend himself right now, not vanish and go w/e
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Post Post #5877 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:30 am

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In post 5874, Thor665 wrote:
In post 5871, DrippingGoofball wrote:I think both Pine and Flubber are in fact scum.

It would make me pretty happy.

You're still voting Pine currently though, yeah? Any interest in the lulzhammer on Flubber?


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Post Post #5878 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:50 am

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In post 5876, Shiro wrote:I honestly do not get why Flub is not doing anything we are in a kind of serious point in the game and honestly I would expect a townie to do his best to defend himself right now, not vanish and go w/e

This is not alignment indicative so try again
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Post Post #5879 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:52 am

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In post 5877, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 5874, Thor665 wrote:
In post 5871, DrippingGoofball wrote:I think both Pine and Flubber are in fact scum.

It would make me pretty happy.

You're still voting Pine currently though, yeah? Any interest in the lulzhammer on Flubber?


I want both dead, I'll swing the hammer whichever way the wind blows.

Well...one of them is at L-1 with hours left to the day phase.
The other is not.

Are you expecting a Pine resurgence?
Or do you think these last few moments are somehow useful scumhunting?
Or what?

I'm basically requesting the hammer immediately and wondering why you're not doing it - to be clear.
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Post Post #5880 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:52 am

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Also vt

No wait I mean 1 shot jk because that makes more sense somehow
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Post Post #5881 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:53 am

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In post 5878, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 5876, Shiro wrote:I honestly do not get why Flub is not doing anything we are in a kind of serious point in the game and honestly I would expect a townie to do his best to defend himself right now, not vanish and go w/e

This is not alignment indicative so try again

You're at L-1 with multiple hammer intents.

Anything to add?

Thoughts on your wagon?

A claim?

Anything?
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Post Post #5882 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:53 am

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In post 5880, Flubbernugget wrote:Also vt

No wait I mean 1 shot jk because that makes more sense somehow

No fair - that's my fakeclaim!

Okay - any last scum reads prior to your death?
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Post Post #5883 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:38 am

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In post 5870, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 5864, Pine wrote:I think it's because you're afraid of new opinions and fresh perspectives


Still waiting for yours...

I'll get there when I get there
In post 5871, DrippingGoofball wrote:I think both Pine and Flubber are in fact scum.

Nope
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Post Post #5884 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:41 am

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Vote Flubbernugget


@Thor: Consider - I think you're scum. You appear to be putting together a cobbled-together, last-minute case on Flubber. I don't think you'd be doing so against someone you think is Town, too risky. Therefore, I'm guessing you have some kind of inside information. Scum in multiball often have a much clearer idea of who their opponents are than Town does
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Post Post #5885 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:42 am

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^hammer
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Post Post #5886 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:49 am

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Pine you need to convince me you're town.
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Post Post #5887 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:00 am

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In post 5884, Pine wrote:
Vote Flubbernugget


@Thor: Consider - I think you're scum. You appear to be putting together a cobbled-together, last-minute case on Flubber. I don't think you'd be doing so against someone you think is Town, too risky. Therefore, I'm guessing you have some kind of inside information. Scum in multiball often have a much clearer idea of who their opponents are than Town does

So basically you're saying that I had a wagon built on you to L-1, and then decided that you were town (for no reason, as you hadn't posted gak) and/or decided that Flubber was scum for a suddenly realized cobbled scum insight that I cannot share but is somehow connected to something he posted - and decided to avoid lynching you and push him as scum in a last minute gambit?

Yeah - that sounds like a scum plan...

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Post Post #5888 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:02 am

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Like, seriously, what possible scum insight could I have gained at that point in the game.

Dazzle me - name anything. Do we have a Day Investigative on my team or something?
Do we have a Night Investigative and no day talk so I finally spotted the hints he was dropping?
Are you my scumpartner and I figured we'd distanced enough?
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Post Post #5889 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:07 am

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Actually, more than likely you picked up a lie that town wouldn't notice.

For example, scum in multiball can often see stuff that Town doesn't - a team with a tracker or watcher can spot opponent scum claiming VT when they were known to have gone somewhere on a previous night. Scum can suspect SK based on a failed kill. All kinds of stuff.

It's the timing and awkwardness of the attack on Flubber that makes me think it's scum vs scum
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Post Post #5890 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:10 am

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He claimed nothing at the point I switched to him.
All he did was answer my question about clearing me after a Gunsmith investigation.
Any other thoughts on my possible scum insight where I gave up a wagon on "town" to aggressively push Flubber?

Also, does this mean if Flubber flips town then I am confirmed town to you - or would I still be scum?
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Post Post #5891 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:21 am

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yeah this whole l-1 flubber wagon was really weird and fucked up

I liked Thor's stance on it, but that was about it - Pine came out particularly bad.
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Post Post #5892 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:22 am

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Oh, for the record, I expect him to flip scum

But if he doesn't, oh well
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Post Post #5893 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:46 am

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So your assessment is alternate scum teams each trying to get opposite scum lynched?
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Post Post #5894 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:47 am

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Yep!
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #5895 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:48 am

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With apathetic people like me in the town, they don't really have to worry about that, so now they're trying to stop being crosskilled.

Dunno why you're alive, but meh.
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Post Post #5896 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:35 pm

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Thor665 wrote:
In post 5880, Flubbernugget wrote:Also vt

No wait I mean 1 shot jk because that makes more sense somehow

No fair - that's my fakeclaim!

Okay - any last scum reads prior to your death?


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Post Post #5897 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:39 pm

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who's your scumbuddy?
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Post Post #5898 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:45 pm

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Ffs just end it bbt
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Post Post #5899 (ISO) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:52 pm

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sorry for taunting you xx
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