NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER

[T S O]

I won't vote Boon, not for this offensive/defensive team paranoia spec bullshit.

[T S O]

I think I want Slandaar dead today, real talk.

Vote: Slandaar

[Pine]

so it's Thor/Boon?

FUCKING YES. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, YES

because we have studiously ignored even wagoning Thor today and this Boon flashwagon feels like shit

your wagon is always derailed
Thor's wagon is always derailed
Boon shows no sign of being derailed

why is this

My wagon gets derailed because I'm Town, and arguments to the contrary have been absolute shite

Thor's wagon ONLY gets derailed because Boon (the Bulletproof, WHO CAN'T BE CROSSKILLED) is a BETTER lynch. We could lynch Thor TODAY if we wanted to, I don't think ANYONE has a Townread on him

Boon's wagon IS derailed, BY YOU. Six players, two wolves, wolves won't vote for him, that means we need to be UNANIMOUS against him. WE ARE, except for YOU. That's a SIGN OF DERAILMENT

I think I want Slandaar dead today, real talk.

Vote: Slandaar

Slandaar is more likely Mafia, which is a game-losing lynch for us

Look, I get that you don't like the setup of an offensively powered team and a defensively powered team, I get that. But double-ISO Thor and Boon for today. Everything they do is in concert, they never EVER consider voting for one another, and go after the same targets

[Thor665]

they never EVER consider voting for one another

Whut?

Have you even read this or last day phase?

[Pine]

Put your money where your mouth is then, Thor

Vote for Boon

Or is bussing in MYLO too risky?

[Thor665]

I don't think Boon is a Wolf - why should I?
Also, nice continued dodge - if you're Mafia or town you're playing poorly.

[Aegor]

Because the last Votecount was so many pages ago, please take a moment to check this VC to make sure I have your vote down correctly.

Votecount 5.4

[1]

Boonskiies:

Nero Cain
[1]

Pine:

Boonskiies
[1]

Slandaar:

T S O
[1]

Thor665:

Pine

[2]

Not Voting:

Slandaar, Thor665

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 5 deadline:

(expired on 2015-01-18 06:06:44)

Mod Notes

[Pine]

Where's the dodge?

By the way, the crux of my argument is that you stubbornly refuse to consider even the possibility that Boon might be a Wolf, and I see that trend continues unabated. Why would you? You can make your camp elsewhere, and force us into a position where we need unanimous agreement on either of you. There's practically no reason not to

[Thor665]

You dodged discussing how you either lied about Boon's and my voting habits or just weren't reading anything.

What evidence for Boon Wolf have I ignored?
I am unaware of you presenting any case for him that doesn't have its basis in "Thor + Boon are in lockstep!" which means your case is predicated on;
1. That Boon and I are in lockstep (which we aren't)
2. That I am a Wolf.

I'm not sure why you expect me to give that case attention. Is there something I'm missing?

[Pine]

I made a case on Boon, independent of you, near day start. This was well before I noticed that you and he were subtly working together ("lockste" is your word and a gross exaggeration of my point). Read please. I do not have the patience to pull the quotes you're too lazy (and too scum) to go read

I didn't dodge anything. I really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Rephrase the question in a non-stupid manner

[Thor665]

I made a case on Boon, independent of you, near day start. This was well before I noticed that you and he were subtly working together ("lockste" is your word and a gross exaggeration of my point). Read please. I do not have the patience to pull the quotes you're too lazy (and too scum) to go read

Why not restate it anyway?
Because no one appears to agree with you, and if you think he's scum it's kind of important to sell the case.
I am clearly not the only person not reading/remembering/caring about it due to scumminess/laziness/forgetfulness/non-convinced-ness.

I didn't dodge anything. I really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Rephrase the question in a non-stupid manner

Oooookay.

You said Boon and I refuse to vote each other.
I am calling you a flat out liar/a person not reading the game if you believe this to be true.
What is your response to my commentary in that regard? Are you standing by your commentary - or do you wish to rephrase it?

[Thor665]

I'll even go so far as to point out that, in my belief, Boon spent the first half of this phase trying to lynch me.

[Boonskiies]

Anyone else think it's weird how Pine says vote me yet he's voting Thor?

VOTE: Slandaar

Unfortunate if Nero/Thor is actually wolf. :/

[Pine]

Am I?

Unvote
Vote Boonskiies

My mistake

Look at the scum jump on the opportunity to lynch Slandaar. They think he's Mafia too

I swear to god, TSO. Your bullheadedness is going to lose this game for Town

[Boonskiies]

Again, I believe Slandaar and Pine are wolves. I've been stating I believe Nero is mafia since day 2. I fail to see how you possibly could say I think Slandaar is mafia. I'm town reading TSO, of course I'm going to from a town mind set.

[Thor665]

I made a case on Boon, independent of you, near day start. This was well before I noticed that you and he were subtly working together ("lockste" is your word and a gross exaggeration of my point). Read please. I do not have the patience to pull the quotes you're too lazy (and too scum) to go read

Why not restate it anyway?
Because no one appears to agree with you, and if you think he's scum it's kind of important to sell the case.
I am clearly not the only person not reading/remembering/caring about it due to scumminess/laziness/forgetfulness/non-convinced-ness.

I didn't dodge anything. I really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Rephrase the question in a non-stupid manner

Oooookay.

You said Boon and I refuse to vote each other.
I am calling you a flat out liar/a person not reading the game if you believe this to be true.
What is your response to my commentary in that regard? Are you standing by your commentary - or do you wish to rephrase it?

@Pine - when you asked me 'what dodge?' I meant this sort of stuff - where I ask you questions and you act like I don't exist. That's a dodge.

[Boonskiies]

Also, I came into this day pretty hard into both Pine and Thor.

[Pine]

I'll even go so far as to point out that, in my belief, Boon spent the first half of this phase trying to lynch me.

Oh really?

The first time Boon voted for you, he unvoted 17 minutes later

The second time he voted for you, he changed his vote ONE minute later

The third time he voted for you, it stayed there for a

whopping

99 minutes, following my Mafia fakeclaim, during which time he posted constantly and didn't take his eyes off that vote

Each and every time, he hovered over his vote, ready to take it off at the first sign of trouble. The first time wasn't even until I'd heckled him for DAYS over the classic scum maneuver of presenting a bus and a target, and never going after the bus

So no, he didn't 'spend the day trying to get you lynched'. He never even meaningfully voted for you. Instead, he kept saying 'Thor and Pine,' and pushed exactly one side of that equation

[Pine]

Thor, I don't answer

inane

questions that are entirely opinion and interpretation based in the first place. When you go off about something I can prove, I'm more than happy to wallpost

Eat proof, wolf

[Pine]

TSO, you need to seriously consider the above. You've had your blinders on all day, time to remove them

[Boonskiies]

Hmm. Pine and Thor could be wolf buddies. Bus a buddy, vote a townie. CLASSIC.

[Thor665]

Thor, I don't answer

inane

questions that are entirely opinion and interpretation based in the first place. When you go off about something I can prove, I'm more than happy to wallpost

Eat proof, wolf

Okay, so now we're going from 'never voted each other' to 'never voted each other in a way I believe looked to have intent'.
He also forced a claim out of me.
And then had Scripten mock him for his logic in pushing it.
Your theory is we're all wolves for that one too, huh?

[Boonskiies]

I really would prefer a Pine lynch over a Slandaar lynch. I still keep forgetting Nero has possibility of being a wolf.

[Boonskiies]

Although, the fact that wolves haven't pounced on Slandaar shows that he is not mafia, I believe.

[Pine]

Hmm. Pine and Thor could be wolf buddies. Bus a buddy, vote a townie. CLASSIC.

Except I actually have been pushing Thor. I had to be convinced off of him and onto you (earlier in the day, not the recent switch)

Didn't you JUST heckle me for parking my vote on Thor?

Yeah. Sure sounds like I'm disingenuous