Micro 438: Greatest Idea Mafia - Game Over

eyestott · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:54 am

In post 146, Espeonage wrote:stott, make the vote in a post entirely in allcaps. Harder to see.

VOTE: Diego

HAMMER:DIEGO
END LIFE OF SCUM:DIEGO
HANG:DIEGO

happy?

Espeonage · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:54 am

I mean tnext ime.

eyestott · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:55 am

Oh, like V0TE?

eyestott · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:56 am

Ooh mod is here.

Micc · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:06 am

In post 141, eyestott wrote:
V0te: Diego

In post 144, eyestott wrote:
Vote:Diego

In post 151, eyestott wrote:VOTE: Diego

For the record, I would have counted all three of these votes under the following rule:

In post 1, Micc wrote:Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.

Micc · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:13 am

VoteCount 1.03

Diego1487 (5)

: This Christmas, Alchemist21, Espeonage, guille2015, eyestott

Alchemist21 (1)

: Diego1487

Not Voting (3)

: MrTrow, theslimer3, GuyInFreezer

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to Lynch or No Lynch.

Notes

: MrTrow has limited access until the 16th.

A lynch has been achieved.

Micc · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:26 am

Deigo1487 was lynched Day 1.

He was a

Town Cop

.

It is now Night 1.

The deadline for Night 1 is in (expired on 2015-01-17 11:30:00).

Unless otherwise specified, any night actions should be sent to me via PM.

Micc · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:36 am

This Christmas was killed Night 1.

They were a

Werewolf One-Shot Governor

.

GuyInFreezer was killed Night 1.

He was a

Town Mason Doctor

.

It is now Day 2. The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2015-01-24 11:50:00).

Micc · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:38 am

VoteCount 2.00

Not Voting (6)

: Espeonage, guille2015, Alchemist21, MrTrow, eyestott, theslimer3

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes to Lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline

: The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2015-01-24 11:50:00).

eyestott · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:42 am

I investigated guille last night.
With an unknown amount of antitowns, I propose a mass claim.
As I have already claimed, I will popcorn to guille.

theslimer3 · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:53 am

No you haven't. And I'm sick of games where I post once on day one. ESPECIALLY in role madness games >_>

Fully claim, not just ability claim. I'm not trusting that. Especially after how that hammer went down

eyestott · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:55 am

What? I claimed yesterday. I'm a town cop.
Oh, I should've said I got a "not mafia" for guille.

eyestott · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:57 am

In post 85, eyestott wrote:Bull, I'm a cop. The chance of you also being a cop is slim.
I want to hammer.

theslimer3 · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:02 am

Okay so I guess I just claimed that I skimmed through the game instead of reading

eyestott · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:04 am

you're on thin ice.
I change my popcorn to you.
Full claim.

theslimer3 · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:07 am

How about no

MrTrow · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:09 am

eyestott wrote:Oh, I should've said I got a "not mafia" for guille.

eyestott wrote:As I have already claimed, I will popcorn to guille.

So not only do you want to push a massclaim, even before everyone has posted and you basically quickhammered a town cop.
you also popcorn (as in force to come up with a lie before other claims are in the open, thus more likely to be caught) the person you have a not-guilty on? (yes mafia-only but still).

That really makes sense.
Also

theslimer3 wrote:Especially after how that hammer went down

Indeed, not just the hammer though.
Is there any one who can look at that lynch and conclude it was not scum-driven?

So diego was scum because he, a new player, should have known town should not have the need to breadcrumb?

VOTE: eyestott
Should you breadcrumb

theslimer3 wrote:How about no

just to be clear: this is the correct answer

eyestott · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:18 am

In post 167, MrTrow wrote:
eyestott wrote:Oh, I should've said I got a "not mafia" for guille.

eyestott wrote:As I have already claimed, I will popcorn to guille.

So not only do you want to push a massclaim, even before everyone has posted and you basically quickhammered a town cop.
you also popcorn (as in force to come up with a lie before other claims are in the open, thus more likely to be caught) the person you have a not-guilty on? (yes mafia-only but still).

That really makes sense.
Also
theslimer3 wrote:Especially after how that hammer went down

Indeed, not just the hammer though.
Is there any one who can look at that lynch and conclude it was not scum-driven?

So diego was scum because he, a new player, should have known town should not have the need to breadcrumb?

VOTE: eyestott
Should you breadcrumb

theslimer3 wrote:How about no

just to be clear: this is the correct answer

I want to push a mass claim because we have no idea how many scum there are. For all we know, this could be mylo/lylo. I chose guille because he was active on day one, and he was one of the most likely people to be here.
It would be funny if we lynched both town cops in a row.
No, that's not even a main reason why he was lynched. There was only a very small chance in my eyes that he was a cop, because I knew I was one.

eyestott · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:19 am

So, we shouldn't massclaim?
Why not? We have 6 people, and we've lost two town already.

MrTrow · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:25 am

In post 158, Micc wrote:
This Christmas was killed Night 1.
They were a
Werewolf One-Shot Governor
.

eyestott wrote:Why not? We have 6 people, and we've lost two town already.

So one was someone you have to pretend to be your teammate the other actually was?

eyestott · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:27 am

We have lost two town.
1 through the lynch, and 1 last night.
Please rephrase that post, as I did not understand it.

eyestott · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:29 am

Don't you think it's possible that towncopeyestott could have taken the chance and lynched him?

MrTrow · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:43 am

eyestott wrote:We have lost two town.
1 through the lynch, and 1 last night.
Please rephrase that post, as I did not understand it.

Ow that's what you meant, sorry my bad, i didn't take: it is day 2 and there is a scum dead despite a scum-driven lynch as so bad it warrants a mass-claim.
So the detail you included the lynch in those numbers didn't occur to me.
I pretty much accused you of a scumslip. 'dead buddy + i'm town -> dead buddy was town(not actually reading allignments as i already know that one) typo

(back to the post i was actually writing)
ow and to what extend you believe 'town should know, breadcrumbing is useless, yet he did -> must be scum' was a factor in his lynch, is completely irrelevant.

Fact remains: you made that argument knowing fully well it wasn't true.
After all you are a more experienced player than he is, have experience regarding breadcrumbing in particular
AND STILL felt the need to start a discussion-thread to figure out the proper way to handle breadcrumbs.
there is no way you genuinely believed a player less experienced than you should know 'breadcrumbing role as town isn't helpful'

You were pushing a false case and are therefore the proud holder of my vote.

Also would you kindly justify the detail you just conveniently skipped:
the 'popcorn order' is 'most scummy(one who is most likely to have to come up with a fakeclaim) first(as to rob them of the claims of those who answer truthfully)'
you you chose to consider the person you have a COP-INNOCENT on as the most likely to be scum who has yet to reveal.
WHY?

eyestott wrote:Don't you think it's possible that towncopeyestott could have taken the chance and lynched him?

Sorry could you rephrase this one.
Either i don't follow or it screams: "but i would have done the same if i were town"

theslimer3 · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:59 am

I'm liking mrtrow's argument against Eye's claims here. But Eye has a pretty scope on the mass claim thing here. Despite his logic for doing so, this may well be lylo.
I don't think he's a cop, and I don't trust his result, but somehow I don't think he's scum. Especially not the one to preform the night kill. Probably because of his hammering a cop.

I want to see what everyone else thinks about the flips and everything before we start mass claiming though. Because if we have a vig, I might change my reasoning here quite a bit