NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER


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Post Post #6800 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:21 am

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Consider: Nearly everyone thought I was some kind of scum, so both sides thought I was the opposite. Shooting the announced bulletproof is just a waste of a shot, so the only way we get a no kill is for both sides to shoot me
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Post Post #6801 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:22 am

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I still think he's most likely mafia but I understand your point about him being WW. But it really doesn't matter that much which factions the scum are.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #6802 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:23 am

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That makes me Town, it makes Thor Town, and it makes Boon most likely To be Town of the remainder, but definitely not Mafia (because another robust PR would be OP for Mafia)
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Post Post #6803 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:23 am

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I don't understand how you'd eat both bullets. I'm p sure that a kill stop only does one protect.
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Post Post #6804 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:28 am

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look Pine it's really cute that you've came up with a scenario that makes you not-scum but I still don't care
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #6805 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:29 am

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Watching you squirm is rather amusing though.
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Post Post #6806 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:33 am

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In post 6803, Nero Cain wrote:I don't understand how you'd eat both bullets. I'm p sure that a kill stop only does one protect.

Depends on the mod. A lot treat Jailkeep as a kind of forced commute, making the target untouchable and unable to touch

TSO, I'm not squirming. I'm deducing. I think it scares the piss out of you that we're in a 5-player game with two and a half confirmed Townies, so you want to make this quick, don't give Boon and Thor time to think it through
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Post Post #6807 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:34 am

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In post 6804, T S O wrote:look Pine it's really cute that you've came up with a scenario that makes you not-scum but I still don't care

It's not "cute," it's important, and it changes things quite significantly
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Post Post #6808 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:35 am

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With me protected, the only way we get a no kill is if Boon and I were exclusively shot at. Given Boon was a claimed 2-shot BP, no one's going to shoot at him. That makes me Town, because both sides shot at me
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Post Post #6809 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:36 am

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Ironically, the fact that everyone thought I was scum confirmed me
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Post Post #6810 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:38 am

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Pine, you came up with one scenario for Pine-town which is possible. The fact that there -is- a scenario where you are town is the reason you have not been quicklynched yet, but it's nothing more.

So, for me, you still had a chance of being town even after the claim. However, your awful play around Slandaar, which basically went like "NO PLEASE DON'T HURT HIM GET THAT BOONSKIIES" was pretty damning. Your promised content never really showed up. You being Wolf points perfectly towards set-up spec.

Why would I randomly believe you when nothing else points to it?
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Post Post #6811 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:39 am

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Your posts post-Slandaar flip are also really forced.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #6812 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:43 am

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I mean, even reading back over it now, you never even half justified Slandaar-town.
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Post Post #6813 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:44 am

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Really, that's the root of my confidence - your Slandaar stance continues to be nonsensical.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #6814 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:07 am

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I never tried to push Slandaar as Town, that pretty clearly shows that you weren't ever reading critically. I was consistently pushing Slandaar as Mafia

I was right about him being scum, wrong faction
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Post Post #6815 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:52 am

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Well, if you guys didn't notice yesterDay, I was trying to act like I was mafia so the real mafia would be semi obvious to me. Also, I was trying to draw the wolf night kill. Obviously a wolf tried shooting me, meaning if Pine's scum, he is mafia, as he was unable to shoot at me.
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Post Post #6816 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:54 am

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Also, my bulletproof claim from a wolf perspective seeing me as mafia makes it seem like I lied about my BP.
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Post Post #6817 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:56 am

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As much as I don't want to, I'm starting to believe the 3 remaining town is Thor/Pine/Myself.
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Post Post #6818 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:56 am

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I'm insinuating Nero is a wolf, T S O is mafia.
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Post Post #6819 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:01 am

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heh. nope

as an aside Boons claim that I'd needlessly bus my buddy yesterday is all kinds of crazy but its not like anything he's said stacks up but then again "I'm Boons, I'm a Vi and do shit that doesn't make sense" amiright?
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Post Post #6820 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:11 am

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oh my fucking god boon
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Post Post #6821 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:11 am

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what even is 6815
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Post Post #6822 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:19 am

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I'll admit my hopes of strolling into today as conftown were very optimistic, but this is a fucking joke.
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Post Post #6823 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:29 pm

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Well...if it helps, I'm not sold on you as it. I'm just theorizing. I want Nero lynched toDay, and possibly Pine if I can't completely convince myself to town read him.
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Post Post #6824 (ISO) » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:38 pm

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In post 6789, Nero Cain wrote:I wouldn't call your sitting on Pine all day and sitting there and going "oh I much rather lynch flubber" leading either. I started the flubber wagon

I would suggest I did more for that wagon than you - but I'm not the one who needs to be cleared of being Mafia.

Don't snark with me - please present a valid case.
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