NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER


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Post Post #7200 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:28 pm

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I apologize for failing to keep up with the game. You did amazing T S O, congratulations.
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Post Post #7201 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:35 pm

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Thank you!

Aegor, those PT's would be cool.
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Post Post #7202 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:44 pm

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At least my setup spec when I busted out all those numbers turned out to be correct, haha.
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Post Post #7203 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:30 am

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Roses are red
Violets are blue
Give me the goddamn PT's
I'll keep bumping til you do
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #7204 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:16 am

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In post 7203, T S O wrote:Roses are red
Violets are blue
Give me the goddamn PT's
I'll keep bumping til you do


This brought tears to my eyes.
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Post Post #7205 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:45 pm

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Spoiler: actually LOL
In post 2557, T S O wrote:Fuck, sorry hood. I only have sporadic access atm and no computer. I'll get down what you wanted.

Mildly scum reading Scripten for last night.

In post 7203, T S O wrote:Roses are red
Violets are blue
Give me the goddamn PT's
I'll keep bumping til you do


So how that case on Aneninen coming?

LOL.

I am so torn.....
I wanna see the PTs too.
I wanna see you not see them... (childish i know, but I old enough that cherishing the child in me is valid past time.)
have cake, eat cake, have cake, eat cake....
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3 => I wanna re roll to delay deciding delaying
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Post Post #7206 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:57 pm

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Spoiler: blush
I only cheated the roll a little...
Original Roll String: 1d3
1 3-Sided Dice: (1) = 1
Original Roll String: 1d3
1 3-Sided Dice: (2) = 2
we appear to be stuck in re roll loop
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Post Post #7207 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:59 pm

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EBWOP oops messed up? the second set of dice or misremebered something.
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Post Post #7208 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:34 pm

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<3 Slandaar

Reveal dem PTs

Also,the only bad wolf shot was the one that was jail kept anyway. I had convinced myself that Boon was lying Mafiascum, and also decided that I didn't like the 4-way LYLO that any other kill put me in, so I took a shot. Reasoning explained more thoroughly in PT
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Post Post #7209 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:41 am

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In post 7192, Slandaar wrote:Town didn't play well but got dragged along by the hugely unbalanced setup and when that failed and they had to actually scumhunt they lost. Reviewers were high when they decided to look at this setup.

I will agree with you that the setup was a bit narf.
Doesn't mean that you should overlook the number of town who were fingering scum *prior* to me spotting the setup narf. I did that stuff to find support for my beliefs, not to learn them.

In post 7192, Slandaar wrote:Thor, really, you need to look at other peoples perspectives on things. You need to assess people on their interpretation and meaning not the interpretation and meaning you intended unless you correct them. If you correct them don't then ask why they asked the question when the answer is they were using their interpretation and meaning. You did it with PV (badly) You did it with me also. I am fairly sure you were doing it on D2 also.

I ask those questions to understand the thought process. I am fine with it if you start from a bad premise, but I want to understand the thought process regardless.
Thank you for admitting that I did clarify myself early and functionally though once I understood people misunderstood me - I hope the people voting me over that pay attention next time ;)
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Post Post #7210 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:42 am

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In post 7199, T S O wrote:I agree with Slandaar that Thor's saying scum shooting was terrible was wrong - the proof was this was that at 6 alive 3 were scum. If bad shooting gets you to that scenario, I need to do it a lot more.

I would agree with you if all the scum were on the same team.
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Post Post #7211 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:16 pm

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In post 7183, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 7178, goodmorning wrote:dave was obvTown. Lynching obvTown in a multiball game is very very bad of Town.

no offense to Dave but I'm a better player. Thor also has a point that a large number of town DID support his wagon.

but muffins modkill SHOULD have ended the day.

Yeah I'm sorry about that.

FWIW I wanted to start a discussion about theory. I used an example from this game solely as an example. I personally feel that I didn't compromise anything, but the powers that be disagreed, and again I'm sorry about that.
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Post Post #7212 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:44 pm

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Yeah, the powers have certainly expanded the scope of that rule to the point I go almost silly mum about things.
I'm still gunshy about pointing out that someone is posting in other games because that's admission that other games are happening and there was a period they were cracking down on that.
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Post Post #7213 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:22 am

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In post 7211, Muffin wrote:I personally feel that I didn't compromise anything,

putting whether you did or not aside,
just consider this games thread and the slips/problems about other games that happened in it.

Even if you could have the discussion and not compromise anything, other people sooner or later would not and would slip.

I personally would feel uncomfortable either reading or not reading your discussion.
Your discussion would or might contain trust tell confirmed (as they are out of game statements about your real views on certain topics) relevant to the game state.
and that is apart from any WIFOM on whether you would or wouldn't have the discussion at all if you were scum
Simple existence or absence of the discussion itself can be construed to be game/alignment relevant...

If you had had the discussion,
If I read your discussion i have out of game info, if I don't but other players do they will hold positions for reasons I don't understand.

I have thought about this topic somewhat on multiple occasions, it always makes my head hurt trying to work out what would and wouldn't be problem.

So: My bottom line is I 'go dark' when I play.
zero posts and always leaking zero posts on any topic is also zero game information all else is tricky, so I don't bother.

"Monty Hall" (and related genera of meta logic puzzles) taught me how hard it is to go zero information leak unless you go dark.
(Actually a lot more than that)
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Post Post #7214 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:27 am

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Okay this is beginning to become disgraceful - release the goddamn PT's please.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #7215 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:28 am

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If you release the PT's, I may even release my case on Aneninen!
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #7216 (ISO) » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:32 am

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^^
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Post Post #7217 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:58 am

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Well, it's been a week, and no PT's.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #7218 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:20 am

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Dunno if Aegor is checking the thread anymore
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #7219 (ISO) » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:26 am

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SKITTLES!!!
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7220 (ISO) » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:00 pm

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In post 7203, T S O wrote:Roses are red
Violets are blue
Give me the goddamn PT's
I'll keep bumping til you do
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #7221 (ISO) » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:30 pm

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Lolol

This is why I like QTs. I could give you the link, but you can't read it without the Mod making it so
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Post Post #7222 (ISO) » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:54 pm

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you can alwasy ask chamber to force allow it
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Post Post #7223 (ISO) » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:31 pm

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I said some nasty things about TSO in the wolf PT so I don't want it to be shared.
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Post Post #7224 (ISO) » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:15 am

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I have no problem with seeing them.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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