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Post Post #100  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:09 am

Yeah, if you go to Vengeful Mafia the stats are calculated with it in the "odds" section. Intrestingly enough the results are very close to what the page maker calculated they would be.
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Post Post #101  (ISO)  » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:10 pm

I'm redoing the setup category pages, they were each made separately meaning they have different styles and some information is no longer correct. The main page and general setups page are done, they are friendly to non-native viewers now.

Also, are there actually any active wiki moderators anymore? I've been asking for one for a while to change the main-page however none have reacted. Lots of spam pages are being left alone as well, I'm blanking them but deletion would be better.
We need new moderators IMO, the current ones seem to be doing very little. (Not the technical admins like Kison, they rule.)
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Post Post #102  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:53 pm

Can somebody read and correct and grammatical/spelling mistakes I've made in the Setups Section of the wiki?
I try to do my best however English not being my native language means I make mistakes occasionaly.
The pages in the navigation bar of this page (Including that page itself) need checking: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... _Main_Page
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Post Post #103  (ISO)  » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:55 pm

After some recent changes to the wiki moderation team (Which I definitely didn't pester people to do.) I'm now part of it and I want to hear what everyone misses or wants on the wiki. It is a community wiki; for everyones use, so it would be great to know what is wanted. This could be content, articles or even stuff which requires extra coding like preset styles to ease formatting (Custom JavaScript is also possible allowing nearly anything, hhowever it would have to be discussed with the Admins.).
Please tell me all your thoughts, it'll help me to improve.

All moderators off any type have been given wiki moderation permissions however it would be nice if some others apply, these guys hsve other tasks so it would be great if some other people who are willing to moderate apply in the thread in Site Ideas on this subject.
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Post Post #104  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:58 am

In post 103, wgeurts wrote:After some recent changes to the wiki moderation team (Which I definitely didn't pester people to do.) I'm now part of it and I want to hear what everyone misses or wants on the wiki. It is a community wiki; for everyones use, so it would be great to know what is wanted. This could be content, articles or even stuff which requires extra coding like preset styles to ease formatting (Custom JavaScript is also possible allowing nearly anything, hhowever it would have to be discussed with the Admins.).
Please tell me all your thoughts, it'll help me to improve.

All moderators off any type have been given wiki moderation permissions however it would be nice if some others apply, these guys hsve other tasks so it would be great if some other people who are willing to moderate apply in the thread in Site Ideas on this subject.

I've added a sidebar linking to the main areas in the forum for the wiki, does anyone want one that links to the main categories of the wiki or is that too much?
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Post Post #105  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:17 am

i typed a lot of stuff and it disappeared
that's a sign that i should have nothing to do with this
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Post Post #106  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:26 am

a summary:
- organize the articles in a clear manner
this will make things easier to find and browse through, and will make obvious what articles are missing or could be added

- standardize article features
right now when an article link is clicked, even if the article has a lot of content, you can't really expect anything about the sort of information will be present, how it'll be organized, or how well-connected by links it'll be to other articles, etc.
developing or sharpening and then implementing standards for various sorts of articles (eg setups, roles) will markedly improve the wiki

if you do both of these then everything left to do is creative
actually producing articles that fill informational holes in the wiki
i believe more of an emphasis should be placed on connecting/basing articles on "researched forum history" or something than on the writer's intuition, but meh
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Post Post #107  (ISO)  » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:39 pm

Quite a few updates I couldn't make before I was a mod:
The navigation boxes on the sides of pages have been updated.
A new easy to set up navigation bar generator. I need comments on how it looks so I can improve it. To find it and see how it works go here: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... :SetupNav2

It works of only CSS3 meaning no JavaScript was used, it is also very easy to edit into pages with only a div element with a class attribute being required and regular wiki list syntax for the links and hierarchy.
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Post Post #108  (ISO)  » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:21 pm

Why do we need that "forum" bit on the side?
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Post Post #109  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:28 am

It allows for quick access to various site areas, it's mostly there for non-scummers to direct them to the main site.
If enough people don't want it it can be easily removed.
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Post Post #110  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:48 am

It's probably not worth it. Anyone new coming to the wiki is going to pass through www.mafiascum.net.
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Post Post #111  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:16 am

Disagree.

Lots of average forums use our wiki to reference setups and shit.

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Post Post #112  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:27 am

Well it's definitely not in the way.
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Post Post #113  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:53 am

It already says "To play the game in our forum, go here" at the top of every page. Psyche's right that it doesn't get in the way or anything, I just dislike change or something probably.
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Post Post #114  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:42 am

I'm using it to quickly access bookmarks, saves me 15 seconds or so. Could add up to minutes of saved time. :)
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Post Post #115  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:19 am

In post 111, BBmolla wrote:Disagree.

Lots of average forums use our wiki to reference setups and shit.


There is this, and I've already found it useful myself.
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Post Post #116  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:31 pm

The navigation bar is (mostly) finished. It creates a navigation bar which can have optional drop-down menu's. This explains how to use it:
Step 1
Make a div with the following:
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<div class="nav"></div>


Step 2
Add the levels and links:
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<div class="nav">
*[[Example1]]
**[[Example1DropDown1]]
**[[Example1DropDown2]]
***[[Example1DropDown2SubTab1]]
*[[Example2]]
*[[Example3]]
</div>


In this example Example1-3 would be visable, if the user hovers over "Example 1" it's 2 drop down tabs appear under it. If the user then hovers over "Example1DropDown2" another sub tab appears next to it. Of cause the links can be any page, use regular wiki syntax.

Known bugs:
  • If on a page that a first level (visable without mousing over) tab links to all sub-tabs and dropdowns won't open for that tab. I don't know why and I'm looking to fix that.
    Stupid mediawiki stopping self-links. It can be fixed by using actual URL's however that takes more work than regular wiki syntax.
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Post Post #117  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:31 pm

Ah, that's wgeurts

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Post Post #118  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:18 pm

Is this the thread where we tell wgeurts what we want done to the wiki?

wgeurts, can you put organizing a better Scummies page on your to-do list?

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Post Post #119  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:23 pm

This is that threat.
Thread!
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Post Post #120  (ISO)  » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:26 pm

Also, here's an idea.

There are apparently stable templates around of someone of the best Scummer wikis around (like UN's). If you made some page working as a guide to making your own wiki (which there is a lot of general interest in doing) which points to one of those templates, the world would be a clearly better place.
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Post Post #121  (ISO)  » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:08 pm

In post 120, Psyche wrote:Also, here's an idea.

There are apparently stable templates around of someone of the best Scummer wikis around (like UN's). If you made some page working as a guide to making your own wiki (which there is a lot of general interest in doing) which points to one of those templates, the world would be a clearly better place.


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Post Post #122  (ISO)  » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:48 pm

Is there a way to categorize the open setup statistics subpages that doesn't automatically apply those categories to their main setup pages??
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Post Post #123  (ISO)  » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:32 am

Yes, however it's a little work.
Use <noinclude> and </noinclude> around the category syntax and <includeonly> and </includeonly> around the template part that generates the stats.

@Pysche, I'll get someone to make a page like this. I don't personally use these templates so if I were to write it I'd need to take a look.

I've not been able to update anything recently, exams are taking up my time.
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Post Post #124  (ISO)  » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:56 am

I can't get the <includeonly> tags to work? http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... on=history
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