Worst role ideas?

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Post Post #4900 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:09 am

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That'd be a cool setup... unlimited cults.
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Post Post #4901 (ISO) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:09 am

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You are...
Unlimited cult works
! You're only goal is to turn other players into cults. Luckily, to do this, you get a
Mass Cult Leader-izer
You lose when someone mentions the fate/ series, and win with all cults in the game.
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Post Post #4902 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:15 am

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Since no one likes this role, here we go:

Old Maid: Every night, the old maid may switch roles with another player. Old Maid cannot win.

Gallis: Dies with the minority vote alongside the lynched. wins with village.

Trigger-Happy Cop: may visit someone each night. Receives a report on whether they can be killed at night or not. if they can, he will shoot them the next night.

Hated: requires one less vote to lynch. Wins when they are killed by anything that is not a lynch.

Little Boy:Mafia. May follow someone each night to receive any PM messages that are given to them. One other person will know who the little boy is, and they will not be mafia.

Village Idiot: When the Village idiot dies from being lynched, the mafia may kill two people that night. Wins with village.
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Post Post #4903 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:51 am

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Village idiot = beloved princess

Is already a role
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Post Post #4904 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:11 pm

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Just because Beloved Princess is already a role doesn't mean it's not terrible, though.

Here's a role that's outright brokenly powerful, but looks absolutely awful for town:

You are a
Compulsive Gullible Day Vigilante
. You can kill one player in each day phase. If you do not attempt to use your daykill on any given day, you die. If you attempt to kill scum, your action fails. You win with the town.

(That said, "Gullible", which might do with a better name, is a modifier I'd like to see in more non-Worst roles. You can do a lot of interesting things with roles that don't work on scum.)
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Post Post #4905 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:13 am

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But it just confirms scum rather than killing them, so then they just get lynched immediately?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #4906 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:11 am

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In post 4902, zabing12 wrote:Since no one likes this role, here we go:

Old Maid: Every night, the old maid may switch roles with another player. Old Maid cannot win.

Gallis: Dies with the minority vote alongside the lynched. wins with village.

Trigger-Happy Cop: may visit someone each night. Receives a report on whether they can be killed at night or not. if they can, he will shoot them the next night.

Hated: requires one less vote to lynch. Wins when they are killed by anything that is not a lynch.

Little Boy:Mafia. May follow someone each night to receive any PM messages that are given to them. One other person will know who the little boy is, and they will not be mafia.

Village Idiot: When the Village idiot dies from being lynched, the mafia may kill two people that night. Wins with village.

Um... What's the difference between Trigger-Happy Cop and a Delayed Vigilante?
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Post Post #4907 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:15 am

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You are an
Egotistical Dictator
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You win alone. If you vote someone, they're automatically lynched. If someone votes you, you're automatically lynched.
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Post Post #4908 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:45 pm

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That role is actually pretty cool.(not saying its not a good idea but I could see myself playing that.)
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Post Post #4909 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:47 am

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In post 4908, zabing12 wrote:That role is actually pretty cool.(not saying its not a good idea but I could see myself playing that.)

It's fun. It'd be nice to play as, too.
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Post Post #4910 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:15 am

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In post 4907, lufan131 wrote:You are an
Egotistical Dictator
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You win alone. If you vote someone, they're automatically lynched. If someone votes you, you're automatically lynched.


Literally going to kill a player in RVS 9/10 times. 10/10 would randomly assign to whoever I dislike most in my game.
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Post Post #4911 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 3:01 am

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In post 4907, lufan131 wrote:You are an
Egotistical Dictator
.
You win alone. If you vote someone, they're automatically lynched. If someone votes you, you're automatically lynched.



Will always be NKd night 1 tbh
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Post Post #4912 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 10:26 am

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Unless mafia. That would be OP, though.
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Post Post #4913 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:09 pm

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Wouldn't necessarily be OP as Mafia, because people would assume there was some sort of first-vote-wins mechanic and be spamming votes right as the thread was unlocked.

It'd be similar in impact to a 2-shot Mafia Vigilante, which is pretty powerful but not unbeatable if the setup is otherwise balanced around it.
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Post Post #4914 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2015 12:27 pm

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The way I came up with to balance it was to make the days start at random times. Announce the day, but not when that day. Is there a better way?
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Post Post #4915 (ISO) » Thu May 07, 2015 2:26 am

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Yes. Decide the win by coin flip. Would be more fair.
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Post Post #4916 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 10:05 pm

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In post 4905, T S O wrote:But it just confirms scum rather than killing them, so then they just get lynched immediately?

It basically makes the game into almost Double Day. You use the first shot as the lynch. If it goes through, oops you mislynched, but yay you get to lynch someone else now rather than the scum getting their NK. If it doesn't go through, you hit scum, and can proceed to lynch them properly.
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Post Post #4917 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2015 10:26 pm

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In post 4916, callforjudgement wrote:
In post 4905, T S O wrote:But it just confirms scum rather than killing them, so then they just get lynched immediately?

It basically makes the game into almost Double Day. You use the first shot as the lynch. If it goes through, oops you mislynched, but yay you get to lynch someone else now rather than the scum getting their NK. If it doesn't go through, you hit scum, and can proceed to lynch them properly.

But wouldn't just a standard daycop be better? Or a standard nightcop? Or a standard dayvig? Or a standard nightvig? (Well, actually standard nightvig would probably be worse)

It's good, but not outright brokenly powerful.
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Post Post #4918 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2015 10:38 am

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You're
Black Anis
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You're
L.E
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Post Post #4919 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 7:09 am

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Post Post #4920 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 8:54 am

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In post 4917, Who wrote:
In post 4916, callforjudgement wrote:
In post 4905, T S O wrote:But it just confirms scum rather than killing them, so then they just get lynched immediately?

It basically makes the game into almost Double Day. You use the first shot as the lynch. If it goes through, oops you mislynched, but yay you get to lynch someone else now rather than the scum getting their NK. If it doesn't go through, you hit scum, and can proceed to lynch them properly.

But wouldn't just a standard daycop be better? Or a standard nightcop? Or a standard dayvig? Or a standard nightvig? (Well, actually standard nightvig would probably be worse)

It's good, but not outright brokenly powerful.


Standard daycop is one of the most brokenly powerful roles in existence. I agree that an unlimited-shot dayvig would be better, but how often do you see an unlimited-shot dayvig? (And nightcop is also better, I think, although it's not certain.)
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Post Post #4921 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:14 am

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In post 4919, Soft-spoken wrote:compulsive town framer

That's not that bad. Just claim early d1, and claim your targets. If you're significantly better than the cop, it can even be helpful. If you're significantly worse, it can be annoying, but it won't be that bad.
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Post Post #4922 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:44 am

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You are a
Cult Leader
. Each day, you may recruit one player into your cult and they will become your acolyte.
  • If there are less than
    three
    acolytes and you die, then the eldest living acolyte replaces you as the cult leader, inheriting every aspect of your role. (You will win if your replacement wins.)
  • If there are four or more acolytes and you die, then they all commit suicide and die with you, but
    retain their original win condition
    .
  • You have a one-shot bulletproof, which will be passed on until it is used. (This resolves instantaneously.)
  • You win if the cult at any time makes up 50% of the living players.


(I thought it was an interesting take on the cult--basically, it forces cult players in a small cult to remain loyal to their cult leader because they'll lose otherwise, but offers them a way out of the third party wincon after being recruited, if they sacrifice their life.)
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Post Post #4923 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:59 am

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You are 'Mastin 2', but this is a coverup, you are actually 'who', but that's a coverup as well, in truth you are 'callforjudgement' but that's also a duisguise. The thing is you are 'Soft-spoken' but this is to hide your true identity 'Jeanne11', which was born from 'who' again and.....2 hours of naming everyone on the site.

Look long story short, you're vanilla town.
You are not more paranoid than me!!!!
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Post Post #4924 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:16 am

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Lol!
Actually, shouldn't we start a thread for composing "Parody PRs" for certain players? ^_^
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