8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[ZZZX]

She's 95% confident on ZZZX

Titus frankly never ever read me right, If you were town titus would never do that statement after hearing me say that statement a few days back.

If titus is still nto convinced here it is again

Titus cant read me at all.(Tried to keep that in the most friendly way cus <3 to play with titus anyway )

[ZZZX]

but sadly you and metal are scum and are using the same percentages nearly (wot)

[ZZZX]

How is being willing to lynch anything with a pulse different from joining any wagon that grows legs? That sounds like the same thing to me. Also, I'd thought you would have realized by now I'm not the most emotional of players, and I certainly wouldn't use threats of hate and blacklists ever, and panicking is something I generally try to avoid.

Titus is particularly frustrated with you because you keep saying her VCA sucks. She also wants you to know that Town shouldn't be paranoid at this point because it gives scum room to keep every option open, and it's also frustrating for her that you don't like the lack of paranoia. She doesn't want to give scum an out by telling them it's ok to be paranoid because it allows them to keep all their options open.

that reminds me, did titus reply about the fact that shes 95% sure about me scum even tho i proved "titus cant read me"? or are you ignoring my posts?

[ZZZX]

If ZZZX/Mollie tries to ninja a wagon on me during the night, because they realised how the Alch lynch lacked so much long-term planning, I trust you, Ooba, to not make the stupid choice (of sheeping them).

For now, how about you show your disdain and protest by placing a vote on ZZZX?

I thought you said its me/ooba but you are appealing to Iona now... Lol

[ZZZX]

Remember all that? Good. I expect all of you to identify what a Town looks like and what does not the next time.

Sonic answer me this.

Haven't I said the same thing in... Every single game I ever had? We both know that at worse those quotes are null for me and townlean at best. Yet you are attacking me with them.

Every time I read your posts I feel a slight urge to vote the confirmed scum sonic instead of 65% alch. But anyway I am not going for zar as you say I would . zar is town and as i said there are 2 scum in you alchemy and ooba. Since you are scum that means one in ooba/alch. But I doubt alch will flip town tho so yea.

[ZZZX]

If Alchemist flips town, predict who ZZZX will be calling scum on D8.

my vla ended today, I am here and will remove the banner once i am non-lazy enough
and thats you m8. I still totally believe in scum sonic, frankly alch is there as a poe/relationship to you, but the source: you still exists.

but i want to know the flip already, I had enough of this talk when everyone started to talk about me when i pushed kagami i am getting the same thing here, sso why dont you finish the shit already sonic since its just wasted time? push the game forward.

p-edit: i suffered just to understand what you are saying there but your play was not the same frankly, add that to the fact that you are telling me that I am scum? well guess what, its bullshit. the moment you bullshit like that you cant really convince me otherwise

You have been trying really hard to convince me but the point stands. your arguement stands where I am scum. but I am not really convinced I am scum. because I am not. so I cant believe any bullshit you throw at me, its just a waste of my time and it pisses me off.

[ZZZX]

Also metal if you were town you would instantly know this is my town game, there is nothing indicating otherwise, every single town game is the same as this one, you are calling me out for things I do as town. if its someone else that would be fine,. but you played enough with me to know its town me here yet you are bullshiting to try and get me lynched. really?

[ZZZX]

Anyway I will be back in an hour.

[ZZZX]

actually before i go, metal i have an interesting question,

if i were say to flip town (=true but whatever) who would be the scum from your point of view?

I am not posting more in vla than not in vla, also the situation of my vla was fortunately better than i thought.

I post when I want, You have no right to know anything about my real life situation but what matters is that I gave this game every moment i could even in my vla.

Whats the problem if i posted more in vla than non-vla? I dont get it.

[ZZZX]

WHatever man, I dont get your dumb questions. i havent been asked questions those dumb questions by town ever. and i have never seen vla been deciding of an allignment, I have even made sure to answer everything even when i had limited access and now you are bullshiting it to try and make it as a scummy thing? well fuck off.

anyway I will take a shower and do my math too...

[ZZZX]

The problem is that I think that if the ooba wagon stayed at L-1, and I didn't catch you scum, you would probably be spending more time studying (or lurking!) than desperately defending yourself.

Listen. For the last fucking time I would like you to read my posts and tell me.

Is lurking a scum tell for me? (Tip:nope)
Did I ever lurk? (Tip:nope)

When Iona was l1 I was still more active than you alchemy and dar combind. If I am not post then I'm prob sleeping (cus of time difference) busy or have nothing to say.

[ZZZX]

if i were say to flip town (=true but whatever) who would be the scum from your point of view?

[ZZZX]

Also last this for real now: is any of the things you said about me a scuntell for me?


Answer me and prove it.

[ZZZX]

Whatever you say I will show you at least 3 town games where I have done whatever you have to say.

[ZZZX]

Whatever you say I will show you at least 3 town games where I have done whatever you have to say.

[ZZZX]

Whatever you say I will show you at least 3 town games where I have done whatever you have to say.

[ZZZX]

Lurking is a fucking scum tell for you, don't bullshit.

I have lurked the last 6 town games in site. The biggest example is decks game or pathfinder

And I am sure but I Wont self vote. Frankly self voting to lose the town the game is against my win con as town but sure. Try and if I can't you might be able to convince Mollie to lynch me perhaps

[ZZZX]

OH yeah. I remember, your play has gotten lurky shit since you're back from that long VLA of yours.

That's why I was avoiding you all the time in playing games. Now I remember.

Yea. Good thing I'm tryharding here (and caufht scum!)

[ZZZX]

Okay.

How about you show me town games where you went on VLA but still posted a shit ton during the VLA?

This one will be harder.

Will try to see. But I never went into vlas before here except maybe once? I donno

I will check later but I don't believe I can get you any alignment for that . remeber that this is team mafia. But o well will check aftwr shower

[ZZZX]

But yea. I can't even remebr when I went vla here

[ZZZX]

I don't expect scum to change. I am just showing you how town you such as that game would keep looking even when u were sure about me that game to get the truth. But guess what you are not

This just confirmed the feelings I had. Now I am sure about you.

[ZZZX]

Cya in an hour

[ZZZX]

I don't expect scum to change. I am just showing you how town you such as that game would keep looking even when u were sure about me that game to get the truth. But guess what you are not

This just confirmed the feelings I had. Now I am sure about you.

Which game are you referring to? I'm pretty sure you're scum because you threaten to drop your town read on me 3 times during the game. You make it seem like I am the lynchbait for you, but I am not. Town-ZZZX would not do that.

What do you mean? I don't understand what you are saying here tbh

[ZZZX]

I am going to force myself to stop replying to you. If you want to know more about what I think of your play, talk to me outside of game. That way at least I know you aren't being scum and encouraging us to spam the thread with our meta stuff.

sadly I would love to but i doubt that thing is allowed..

[ZZZX]

I feel like metal is practically announcing he is scum right now and i will take out an insurance policy on you and eat you and then send the insurance money to your soon to be wife if you try to rationalize that he is somehow town.

lols i just died

and yea, sorry.

[ZZZX]

@ooba do you need anything from ika since he is here atm?

[ZZZX]

Will talk here in 45 minutes btw.

[ZZZX]

Damn it mollie every time you scold me ika is about to strangle me >>

[ZZZX]

I am well aware

Vote:Metal

[ZZZX]

Za Re Ka To BAAAAR

I summon quadz~

Give us the holy flip that will flip

the tables on the scum team then!

p-edit: mollie ika asks if u need anything from either me or ika?

[ZZZX]

Oh damn, quadz is late, wont be awake for the flip :/

oh well ;P Good night all

[ZZZX]

@sonic even if ur scum dont call me an idiot and say my scum huntin' sux plz?


anyway

game is finished, so yea

vote:alch

[ZZZX]

[ZZZX]

70% chance game is already done after this flip
20% change it will end after zar flip
10% chance it needs ooba flip

[ZZZX]

alch be nice enough to tell us you will flip scum. cus it would be nice.

[ZZZX]

i really doubt ooba is scum after the quick switch onto metal. but it might be possible but for now ... i guess it is to be zar or?

[ZZZX]

would like thoughts from every player. NOW

[ZZZX]

Do you have any thoughts that happened during your enormous lurk-fest?

You are using this "wagon" on me as an excuse to avoid everything else that happens in this game. You get to be a

Tabula Rasa

by tunneling. Is your plan to hope to get out of it on day 2? Or just salvage the SilverWolf slot by pushing one town lynch before you go down, and leave the least information possible in your ISO?

Who is town, Kagami? Who is scum? Do you have a town read on Seraphim? I know you have one on Sotty because "I voted for her" which is hilarious in and of itself.

Scum

GreyICE (TBD)
Hoopla (Confectionery Animals)

Zar Empire (The Westeros Circlejerk)

wgeurts (Young and Beautiful)

Metal Sonic (team nocaps)

Nachomamma8 (Gestalt)
ZZZX (TEAM WITH NO NAME)

EddieFenix (The Leftovers)
Seraphim (The Unviggable Vegetables)

Sotty7 (The Kliq)

Albert B. Rampage (Blue, Meth, Blade and Associates)

Town


Now it's your turn.

[ZZZX]

did a quick vca and metal's votes mostly strayed away from zar, it hit ooba only a few times too. honestly confused but later on the zar camping on alch felt sad.

i am waiting for mollie's.

[ZZZX]

@mollie do you need anything from ika?

also if it is about ooba/zar we can lynch them both here, I personally trust you to be town 100% at this stage.

[ZZZX]

Zar & Ooba in Me - mollie - the other guy who do you think is the most likely ot be scum? who is the most likely to be town out of mollie./the other guy? i would like to do a quick experament

[ZZZX]

also @ mollie whos most likely to be town and those most likely to be scum from the 3 of us at this stage.?

[ZZZX]

Btw mollie ika asks why you voted alch there?

[ZZZX]

if you guys think I am 100% town then why the fuck are you pestering me with ankle biting questions?

I donno, Ika said to ask you, So give me a minute to ask him

[ZZZX]

also i would love if everyone came here for 10 minutes so we can get this game done, we only need to finish a few things and this game will be finished.

[ZZZX]

also i would love if everyone came here for 10 minutes so we can get this game done, we only need to finish a few things and this game will be finished.

for some1 who is so gung ho for the game to end, you sure as hell aren't placing a vote!

I want to get thoughts from players, also mini wall incoming so stay tuned.

[ZZZX]

mollie, you know we (or mostly ika) know your meta and your interactions, if you recall HU2 you learned a lot about ika's parnaoid backhand thoeiries that he carrries.

right now i am inclinced to think its zar overall and thats where we are goign to prob put our vote. however if we are wrong and it goes to a fucked up 3p lylo with me/you/ooba. i want to know this now then later.

given how the gaem has been going down we am fucked up paranoid and that you know how we are and that we almost always carry a back pocket idea and right now its that we are wrong on zar and its in one of you/ooba.

i dont plan on lynchign the either of you today but we want some peace of mind at least. the other minro thing that has been othering ika is how you ahevent really reached out to me to get to ika as often. While you and I both know the external thigns, its another thing that gives me pause.

[ZZZX]

Also we are not voting cus...

IKA WANTS DA

HAMMA

ill ask him in a sec btw

[ZZZX]

is dis pagetop?

[ZZZX]

Mollie i will be honest to you, I got ika in skype and hes literally shocked right now.....
How is ika misusing you in any way? Like seriously. I am telling you this right here as a medium. I dont get it.
ika is like 2 seconds away form coming into that thread jsut to talk to you now for even thinking that he would ever misuse her if thats what you are implying.

he is genuinely... shocked

[ZZZX]

first of all me spamming the thread is something that I always do, its my nature (and the reason i ended up catching metal for his bullshit)

ill ask ika about the mechanic as I dont see your point about it.

[ZZZX]

@mollie ika says hes sorry

[ZZZX]

first of all me spamming the thread is something that I always do, its my nature (and the reason i ended up catching metal for his bullshit)

ill ask ika about the mechanic as I dont see your point about it.

did nacho try to read me through eddie? yes. was he right? no. it wasn't until I became directly involved that he cld correctly read me.

trying to read a player via their teammate who isn't playing is how the mechanic is being misused IMO. I am not sure how I can be any clearer.

@mollie ika says hes sorry

ika somewhat explained everything to me so i understand and we are sorry.

anyway. should we go for zar now then?

[ZZZX]

the thing with zarella is that I wld think that emp wld spend his tokens on rolling town not scum. plus i don't think emp pointing out that metal was lying about the tokens wld come from scummate!him. so its 1 of you 2. I think its ooba.

VOTE: ooba

there is a chance it is zzthing but wis swear's that zzthing has said some things that only town zzthing wld say.

I'll just say this in my defense in case we go to three person endgame with ZZZX:

DO NOT DO ANYTHING STUPID

Read my ISO
- My initial entry on D2 where I though the two scum were Sotty\Kagami+???+???
-

My D4 push on MS ALONE should more than clear me

- Plus the bonus fact that I averted a bad D7 by switching MS and Alch.

if you are town you need to chill. noone is insta hammering noone at lylo so we can have a good long talk about it if it gets to there.

[ZZZX]

anyway honestly I had enough. Its about time to get this moving (and prob ending the game!)
VOTE: zar

[ZZZX]

if you are town you need to chill. noone is insta hammering noone at lylo so we can have a good long talk about it if it gets to there.

If the one town votes the other, the scum would insta hammer. Or maybe you mean nobody is going to 'insta vote'?

^pedit: He probably is the last scum - but lets see what he has to say. Dan convinced me that nothing good comes out of rushing.

well i wana sleep and i dont wana stop teh game, it needs you AND mollie to vote so no rush

and yea, noone should insta vote... ever ofc.

[ZZZX]

I'm seriously paranoid of ooba's tilting against Metal Sonic, and then trying to use against me that I was voting Alchemist. Then there's the whole trying to go after Mollie thing, which to me doesn't make any sense.

But I'm also really worried Mollie's been letting ZZZX slip by because she seems to like him more than anyone else in this game, I've doubted the integrity of her read of him for a while now and yet she hasn't managed to properly convey why she's townreading him. IDK. I'm seriously worried she might vote wrong in the end if I get lynched today.

I was really convinced Alchemist was scum with all his read changing, I think I'm going to have to do some re-reading and just dealing with going over ZZZX makes me want to gauge my eyes out.

also I am very interested in your venge kill choice. is it zzthing? why not ooba?

I feel like you are totally hedging your reads here.

Who do you think is likelier to be scum with Metal Sonic? Ooba, who wrenched the wagon outside of Metal Sonic when he could have secured a wagon for Alchemist, or ZZZX, who had the whole theatrical with MS yesterday?

Also, do tell me if I should just not bother gauging through his gargantuan iso at this point, because your comment seems to imply you won't be changing your mind on him (which is what concerns me).

I am pretty sure I explained my zzthing townread? if you doubted it then why did you not mention it at the time? what part do you not understand?

I have been asking you about ZZZX, and have asked you because I don't really see what you find different in how he's playing here when compared to MetalSonic. Didn't you find the whole Day 8 exchange between those two weird?

Your posts here are full of nitpicking, Lets face it yea I have defended metal in the start and in day 4, I admit it. But thats was because of the fact i didnt see him as scum then. and later once he started getting in the danger zone after we put him in the right situation (including the fact that by day 5 I made sure to express how sonic dies before lylo) it all happened but that doesnt matter now,

what matters is the fact that you are not answering the questions i asked, but I assume you town read mollie and scum read me then?

also can you give thoughts about each person in details instead of giving short weak posts?

[ZZZX]

last thing in reality I did research and this game is pretty scum-sided in reality. why would anyone give town tokens to it?

I love how metal's first posts were about how good being town here is, you are repeating that here.

[ZZZX]

does anyone have anything else to say this day? cus I think I am done.

[ZZZX]

Tbh you just missed my post even before you asked saying I felt the interaction similar but whatever it is.

Also I have said that before. ATM my mind is saying kill zar and gut is saying it ooba. Its interesting

[ZZZX]

It depends on my commitment to the game IMO and free time. F.e on the game I listed I had literally as many posts as the rest of the players compined ( or at least the top 4 of them combined) also in managerial mafia etc. But yea my lurkong happened afyer my damn 6 months break in uni.

[ZZZX]

if a ZAR lynch doesnt end the game frankly I will just leave it to ika to full read both of you. I honestly have less experiance in reading both of you than him so... yea.

no quick votes in lylo ofc.

[ZZZX]

if me, you and zzthing are all town I think i might order tshirts for all of us that says, "I SURVIVED A NIGHTLESS GAME" which neither of you will wear cos probably neither of you are as geeky as me but I am hoping you will at least wear it for 5 minutes and take a picture of it and send it to me.

That is a brilliant idea

[ZZZX]

Zars not posting indicates to me he gave up on the game. That what scum would do! Hype!!

[ZZZX]

Zars not posting indicates to me he gave up on the game. That what scum would do! Hype!!

[ZZZX]

Zars not posting indicates to me he gave up on the game. That what scum would do! Hype!!

[ZZZX]

And that's why we done phone post. 3x posting...

[ZZZX]

Your call as long as its not pink or purple I'm fine personally lol

Also if zar finishes it I will be finaly free from the chains of this nightless

[ZZZX]

A small team mafia reference would be cool!

Also oobas discussion for it gave me really good town vibes . it makes me more certain of ZAR

[ZZZX]

Guys I'm bored...


Zar can you come and say if you have anything to say if ur town?

[ZZZX]

Frankly at this point I just wana know the flip. I doubt zar is going back or doing anytgibg if he's back...

[ZZZX]

so lets break that done a little:

Oh and ZZZX I have a few things to say, some of which site-wide rules on civility prevent, though! (One of them involves extending Mina's piece of mind on Dan's supposed experience of how we'd be spending tokens, because really... oh and Also, if your team is calling BS on how I spent tokens, ooba you're just calling me scum without seeming to care about how we used tokens to affect our alignment here).

I dont get what you are saying here but Its clear that you said something along the lines of:

hey zzx listen: *starts talking to ooba* ... what?

But at least from my POV, that ZZZX's continued intention to push the game mindlessly makes him the most likely remaining mafia. If mollie hammers me before I come back because she can't see how he's buttered her up, I hope at least she promises to give it a couple of days thought before she places a vote.

Am I pushing the game "mindlessly"? I am pushing the game and for reasons me ika and perhaps mollie agreed on. This game has gone way too long (which includes your inability to show for the last few days and you are saying its about real life but I dont know, otherwise how am I mindlessly pushing the game?

so you leave all kind of scum hunting, assosiation, reaction tests....

and vote me for a reason such as "mindlessly pushing the game...".

There is one thing common with the 3 caught scum. they all tried to bullshit thier way out, all of them got caught by me for the same reason. I don't tolerate bullshit at all.

also just on the token system... why would you put town tokens in a scum sided setup?

[ZZZX]

ill give you a chance, when you try to address me can you please finish your sentence?
Frankly your posts atm is pretty shitty, I would lynch you for that alone right now.

[ZZZX]

A chance to tell me what you wanted to say*

Anyway off to sleep I go

[ZZZX]

Frankly at this point I just wana know the flip. I doubt zar is going back or doing anytgibg if he's back...

^ This post is pretty scum motivated and it allows ZZZX to hide in his supposed "I'm town, and mollie's town so >> ooba", which is him lining himself for endgame after my flip.

Dude i am pissed from this post for one reason: I have not even mentioned anything about ooba or mollie

its a simple straight forward direct post

I wana see you flip

and frankly this post doesnt make that feeling less

[ZZZX]

also just on the token system... why would you put town tokens in a scum sided setup?

Considering this is the setup where any given player is more likely to draw a scum pm and Empire wanted to play here but has a non-existent scum game, in order to a) preserve his mental sanity and ours along and b) Empire is a pretty strong town player and is practically unlynchable as town, so that would make all the sense in the world to us?

Also, modding hat on, I don't think it's entirely correct saying the nightless being "scum-sided" because numbers. I think it's really swingy and it depends a lot on who gets lynched first.

To me, this feels like you want to use everything you can come up with to justify having your vote on me and then try to play it by claiming you "thought it was pretty obvious".

statically this game is so scum sided it hurts. most town players were pushing that very hard (including grey and nacho) while scum (sonic) was giving the idea of thats its easy since we have 5 lynches to get scum. while the truth is if we miss the first two lynches or three we might be screwed. (we got saved by following nacho which half the game tried to resist at the time)

anyway back to topic: most people who pushed for the idea that this setup is so ez 4 town and talked aobut it being a reason to anything were scum. I am just pushing that point.

[ZZZX]

also finally before im back to studying tockens placements dont mean a crap in reality, I am scum reading you for some interactions and crap posting (which all scum were guilty for)w

[ZZZX]

okay so I am not dazzled by zarella.

if it is either ooba or zzthing I am going to spam the thread with poetry and music imbued with the exact reasons as to why I hate them.

VOTE: zarella

Ika approves (tm)

[ZZZX]

okay so I am not dazzled by zarella.

if it is either ooba or zzthing I am going to spam the thread with poetry and music imbued with the exact reasons as to why I hate them.

VOTE: zarella

Ika approves (tm)

is ika even up yet?

nope but thats what he would say

[ZZZX]

he told me a similiar thing 12 hours ago if zar flips town

[ZZZX]

he told me a similiar thing 12 hours ago if zar flips town

he told you a similar thing of what?

if zar flips town he will rage , get insane, try to replace with me in this game.

[ZZZX]

he told me a similiar thing 12 hours ago if zar flips town

he told you a similar thing of what?

if zar flips town he will rage , get insane, try to replace with me in this game.

^ Scum Claim

wat? either u cant read or I am missing something major here?

[ZZZX]

Also, if ZZZX is town I'm blacklisting him and ika by proxy.

well better start black listing now if you were town. because I have done nothing wrong anyway, other than catching all scum so far. Am I missing anything else?

[ZZZX]

i doubt zar is town but if you were are you srs about black listing me cus ooba doesnt make sense as scum? blacklisting threats are pretty lame you know.

[ZZZX]

all we need now is a quad... (

Spoiler:

)

[ZZZX]

Ooba didn't pressure me to sonic . I did. Read how I switched only because of ooba and Mollie to alch. When they went to sonic I switched back you ignorent fool

[ZZZX]

Also I spammed with sonic. So what?

[ZZZX]

Ooba didn't pressure me to sonic . I did. Read how I switched only because of ooba and Mollie to alch. When they went to sonic I switched back you ignorent fool

You voted after you realized ooba would lynch you instead, don't try that!

It doesn't matter, you'll be obvious in Day 10.

We will see. And ur lying nyway just like sonic