New York 182 - Game Over

[notscience]

here I was all excited to talk to my scumbuds but no daychat, fuck my life. I'll talk to you people instead!

VOTE: Sakura

:>

I also avent decided if im going to read up or not \o/

[notscience]

why are we voting varsoon

should I vote varsoon

[notscience]

Hey there notsci are you town

pedit-

so hes getting hate

for retracting his hated claim

does that mean he can reinstate it

pedit-

pls decide if I should vote him so I can pass all blame onto you if I'm wrong

[notscience]

Oh hey notty!

If you have to ask me that you have no right to ask me that

You know as well as I do how obvtown I am

[notscience]

Sakura if you haven't already sorted me out there's not much I can do to help you

[notscience]

oka is scummy

He was scummy in the last game I played with him too tbh

also insert contentless post so sakura cant read me because i dont want her to catch on im scum

[notscience]

Because I am still debating if I want to read up or not tomorrow
You're pretty much the /only/ person I'm interacting with
I'm trying to form a read on you but you blatantly refusing to try and read me based on what I've done is kinda making it hard

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Flubber, Otolia, elusive are all good candidates for scum too.
I'm less certain on Flubber now that he's actually POSTING CONTENT, tho i called him out on that earlier.
Otolia is still doing nothing regardless and just wants to see Varsoon dead no matter what.
elusive is... odd, probably my weakest scumread of the 3 at this point.

Two of your scumreads are based on no content which isnt a scumtell and yo u should know that

Albert did absolutely nothing but here's a summary on what things have been going down as a summary:

We flashwagon Varsoon, and i reaction test people outta it.
Varsoon claims Hated, people start unvoting.
Anti calls him out on his fake claim because Hated isn't a Normal role.
Varsoon admits to lying <- This is the part where most people are going like (Would he admit to lying as scum?), if you ask my opinion yes he would, and he had no choice either way.

What is the motivation for c laiming it as either alignment

People start arguing about ^
People are taking stances, pisskop starts being a jerk to anti, people replace out due to game being too fast.

shocker

Discussion between me, flubber and Otolia about them doing nothing.
Flubber and Varsoon finally start making sense.
Here we are.

ok

pedit-

lol

MASTeR DETECTIVE GORKINGTON IS ON THE CASE

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VOTE: notscience

The gigs up

I give

[notscience]

hypocrisy not a scumtell etc etc

and survivalism isnt alignment indicative either

[notscience]

blame giffy

he caused the strawberry

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VOTE: FoD

that was easy

one scum down two to go

But notsci, you masterful scumhunter you, why is FoD scum?

His interaction with sakura. It reads as him trying to give her a reason not to pursue him further. Make himself toxic for her so that she will ignore him, and make others feel like if they approach him or are even in the zip code he will do the same. That's not soemthing town does, trying to make people want to avoid them. That's something scum does.

LATAH NERDS

[notscience]

Hey varsoon

I have two options for you

Sheep me

or die

Because I'm about the only chance you'll get of living today, and as either alignment that's probably important to you

So

Sheep me

or die

[notscience]

Hey varsoon

I have two options for you

Sheep me

or die

Right on and stuff but like
Sakura and FoD are great wagons
and I'm a bad player.

What've you even got on FoD other than, y'know, the stuff I'm really trying to OMGUS him for?

I havent read the game but trying to cut off people interacting with him is enough for me to purge with fire

[notscience]

How is ascum lynch a low yeild wagon

Imagine all the information we could get based on peoples reactions to the wagon

Like "low info" is a terrible reason to not start a wagon

[notscience]

Hey Sakura

You figured out I'm town yet

If yes- vote FoD

If no- vote FoD

tia

[notscience]

You say that now

But your scumflip at the end of D1 says otherwise

\o/

pedit-

nope, because I'm not stupid enough to take your bait.

You know, your plan to make me emotional so I either A) disengage, or b) so blindly pursue it based on emotion you can paint it as such and squirm out

I'm quite fine purging you as is.

pedit-

It's a scum strategy, don't let it phase you.

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Actually you have a point notty, he's attacking the people not their playstyle...

Unvote
Vote: Flames

This is so bad

but its a vote for flames

AND A VOTE FOR FLAMES IS A VOTE FOR CUTE PUPPY PICTURES

[notscience]

A VOTE FOR ANYONE ELSE IS A VOTE FOR A PICTURE OF DOUCHEBAG CELEBS

Spoiler: The Mod was here

igmeou anti

Explain why the FoD wagon is bad or join it

pedit-

CUTE PUPPY FOR OKA COMING UP



pedit-

CUTE PUPPY FOR THE SCUMFUCK



pedit-

It's a selfvote gambit attempting to call the wagon on him ridiculous before it picks up too much steam.

[notscience]

He's not going to, because he's scum.

Town has no incentive to behave like that.

[notscience]

Spoiler: The Mod was here

pedit-

More proof for the FoD case

Also, you forgot to offer him the puppy

pedit-

He'd only be able to make me mad if I actually cared about his opinion.

Just purge the scumfuck slot with fire rather than let some other poor soul come in here and die.

pedit-

Choo choo

[notscience]

Spoiler: The Mod was here

[notscience]

Spoiler: The Mod was here

House, I never thought I would salute your prowess, but today I do so.

Spoiler: here also

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Spoiler: The Mod was here

pedit

AFTER THIS POST, only new joiners of the wagon will get a puppy

However, once he is lynched, I will post one puppy picture in every single post I make for the rest of the game

[notscience]

I will now

But anyways, FoD is still scum and needs to be purged with fire

Then the puppy patrol dances on teh ashes.

[notscience]

But your proposed post count opens up a loophole of "what happens during night phase when he cant post 4 times every day" unless it's every day phase in which case that is easy.

[notscience]

that works

Attention, all ye naysayers of this wagon

What part of this wagon don't you like?

Are you a satanist who does not enjoy cute puppy pictures?

A scumfuck who doesnt wan't to have to bus this early?

A rampant tunneler so wrapped up in whatever thing you're chasing that you can't lynch him?

A douchebaggy celeb fan?

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Or are you just a sadist who gets off on scum trying to put people down

[notscience]

yeah yeah

Agreed

or may my slot be purged with fire

[notscience]

Except i do not have a cute puppy and therefore cannot take said picture

My youngest dog is 4 years old

and lives 6 hours away

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Spoiler: PROMISED PUPPIES

@Marquis- it originated because there is no town-motivation for his "assault on character" or whatever the fuck he calls it. 'But notsci, what is the scum motivation for pissing people off' Well, the goal is to make people not want to interact with him, not want to work with him, think "if I go near him he will attack my character so I will avoid him" therefore protecting him from suspicion and any chances of being lynched. The puppies are just added incentive to join the righteous cause. Also, "Well person x does this so why do you all jump on person y" doesnt' work, because I can then say "well nobody special lurks a ton as town so I can lurk as scum and be like 'well he does it as town!'"

@Otolia- Rather than attacking the puppies, you could show what the /town/ motivation for his behavior is.

Town motivation behind his assaults on character.

His self vote.

Him saying he won't fight my case.

Him trying to fill the thread with puppies.

And maybe

just maybe

You can live tomorrow, because as is you're next on the chopping block for your atrocious reaction to the wagon.

[notscience]

Who's scum in my artificial wagon, Thor?

Except this is an actual wagon, that will /actually/ end up in you dead.

Also, @Thor- tldr flames is scum and will be purged henceforth

[notscience]

Okay

1) Character assassination in an attempt to either A) discredit or b) prevent people from pursuing him and trying to read him. Who wants to prevent people from trying to read them? Scum.

2) The sarcastic selfvote and the discrediting the wagon on him. It's at 8 votes and noone's actually had a decent defense of it. But, rather than push scumreads he's just kinda sitting tehre like "lol there's a wagon on me looky!" than try to find scum or push his own wagon, like someone with a town role pm would

3) Look at his vote spamming. do you remember PvZ where my goal was to fill the thread with bullshit to make the town apathetic as fuck? Him doing the votespam is him trying to make that happen. Make town apathetic so scum can hide in the lurkmass and coast.

4) Him saying he won't fight me. It's kinda like discrediting, like "well I don't even need to bother defending it." without flat out saying it. He's not scumreading me, but rather than try to show me the light, show me I could be wrong, he's just kinda taking it.

pedit-

But why is it a ridiculous wagon? I've highlighted some of my more serious points several times, but you chose only to respond to the obvious joking points.

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I don't remember who it was who told me this

"I don't care who's on the wagon as long as the scumfuck gets lynched"

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Spoiler: PUPPY POWER

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thahts L-1

Spoiler: PUPPY

[notscience]

Otolia is sketch as fuck tbh.

My current scumteam looks something like

Flames
Otolia
Sakura
others

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[notscience]

SCUM ONE DOWN SCUM TWO TO GO

SCUM IS IN SAKURA/OTOLIA


I can die now

btw, hi oka

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VOTE: otolia

Sakura's jump on the wagon was the obvious scum one

However otolia's reaction to said wagon was also a scum reaction, it was whiteknighting that completely ignored the actual points Aka, trying to look like he cared about the outcome but not actually doing anything to prevent it.

Spoiler: PUPPY

I'm not sure how I feel about anti atm.

[notscience]

I'm all for Otolia, so consider my FoS there.
I'm keen to discover why there was no nightkill outside of scum. If we've got something like a redirect from a not-dead player onto one of the deaths, that'd be awesome.
I wanna see people postin'.

I have my own theory

And no I will not be sharing it unless it becomes relevant because the odds are astronomical but they are still there so

[notscience]

Spoiler: 2 puppies

[notscience]

Someone let the dogs out

Spoiler: PUPPY POWER

pedit-

you shut your whore mouth

puppies are the greatest thing since sliced bread

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Anti, are you town

[notscience]

Ok, I have some extra time, so I'll start re-reading ISOs.

Albert/Notscience ISO:
Albert did nothing. Notscience's first post is interesting.

Yep.

here I was all excited to talk to my scumbuds but no daychat, fuck my life. I'll talk to you people instead!
VOTE: Sakura
:>
I also avent decided if im going to read up or not \o/

So he hasn't read the thread, makes comment about talking to scumbuds, which I would see as joking, but he votes Sakura in the next line, who flipped mafia. Minor distancing?

Yep, definitely! I mean, you could look at PvZ where I flat out claimed scum and claimed I was bussing, as well as claimed I was spamming the thread to induce apathy. It fits my meta just right as scum.

You know as well as I do how obvtown I am

Do we?

This was a statement based on my meta of being easily seen as town. Not based so much on this game, although I was chiding her for not townreading me yet.

Sakura if you haven't already sorted me out there's not much I can do to help you

I'm not sure of what to make of this, but I feel as though it is relevant.

What you are looking for is- "He told her in the scum PT to townread him and she didn't so now he's throwing her to the sharks

oka is scummy

He was scummy in the last game I played with him too tbh

also insert contentless post so sakura cant read me because i dont want her to catch on im scum

Yet another post to Sakura, that doesn't really say anything.

It's almost like Sakura is the person on this playerlist I'm closest too and play with the most :O uh oh, I must be scum with the mod, the comod, and the mod's girlfriend then too! I mean, I focus talks on all my friends, so clearly that means I'm scum with them.

You're pretty much the /only/ person I'm interacting with

at this point she comes out and says it. This is either extreme lazyness, or her trying to cover up her distancing.

Me? Lazy? Never. But no, it's clearly distancing by talking to my scumbuddy instead of just shoving them away and leaving them in the mass with everyone else, you're too slick for me!

VOTE: FoD

that was easy

one scum down two to go

But notsci, you masterful scumhunter you, why is FoD scum?

His interaction with sakura. It reads as him trying to give her a reason not to pursue him further. Make himself toxic for her so that she will ignore him, and make others feel like if they approach him or are even in the zip code he will do the same. That's not soemthing town does, trying to make people want to avoid them. That's something scum does.

LATAH NERDS

Seems only to be paying attention to Sakura's gameplay, and the people around her.

Yep, because sorting friends are my priority. She, being the person I'm closest to this game, is my biggest priority as friends are where my downfall always is. But no, you're right, being obsessed with talking to friends must mean I'm scum with them

Hey Sakura
You figured out I'm town yet

SAKURA

Yep!

You say that now
But your scumflip at the end of D1 says otherwise
pedit-
nope, because I'm not stupid enough to take your bait.
You know, your plan to make me emotional so I either A) disengage, or b) so blindly pursue it based on emotion you can paint it as such and squirm out
I'm quite fine purging you as is.
pedit-
It's a scum strategy, don't let it phase you.

One of the few posts that doesn't reference Sakura in some way.

Then the next dozen or so posts are puppy pictures and cheers for people voting FoD

Tactfully omitted because they don't prove your case

Otolia is sketch as fuck tbh.
My current scumteam looks something like
Flames
Otolia
Sakura
others

Then, after FoD is pushed nearly to lynch, she posts this, putting Sakura "on her scum list" but not high enough for her to be in any danger.

Then, some posts about Otolia

Except that wasn't a strength ranking, it was a /team/ list. She's lower because I wanted her around more, yes.

VOTE: otolia

Sakura's jump on the wagon was the obvious scum one

However otolia's reaction to said wagon was also a scum reaction, it was whiteknighting that completely ignored the actual points Aka, trying to look like he cared about the outcome but not actually doing anything to prevent it.

Then, a vote for Otolia, even though Sakura is obv scum according to this post.

Oh, you can vote people after they die? Show me how.

And finally, a post asking Anti if he is town.

I thought I posted 2/3

Did I only post 1?

I've changed my stance on Notsci, he is mafia.

Still think Elusive is scum of some kind though. Gonna put an FoS on him, and change the vote to Notsci.

VOTE: UNVOTE
VOTE: Notscience

By the way everyone, you can call me Md, mnem, or device, but plz not mmnemeonefincic.

I'm calling you scumfuck because I calls them as I sees them.

also, lol omgus

also,

Spoiler: PUPPY

[notscience]

Spoiler: yay

Dodge until I get time to catch up tomorrow before work

[notscience]

I lied

I overslept

hereafter work

with 2 puppies

[notscience]

cathing up later tonight

I would catch up right now but lolmigraine and processing a ton of pages isnt going to happen

[notscience]

no

stop

don't

[notscience]

i would like it if noddy looked like he gave even the slightest smurf about this game

i dont give the slightest smurf about most things right now

[notscience]

Rub some dirt on it.

[notscience]

I didn't even see your post, frankly.

That was to muffin's.

And you don't see me fighting it, do you?

[notscience]

Something something your biggest enemy is yourself, saying you will try isn't the same as saying you will do, something

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VOTE: thor

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Whats with the sudden burst of activity NS?

muffin asked me to give a smurf about this game and I feel like shit that marquis is defending me while I do nothing

But of course, that must mean I'm scum, right?

[notscience]

Because he's my friend.

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Flashwagon fuzzylogic?

flashwagon fuzzylogic.

[notscience]

zz thing has too few votes to have any hope but we could realistically get fuzzylogic before the day

[notscience]

but he's fuzzylogic

[notscience]

ok

[notscience]

"I'm fuzzy and I'm going to push a counterwagon to thor because obviously mislynching notscience over mislynching Thor is preferable in my eyes, also I'm going to not just lurk when it's totally acceptable for everyone to be lurking the fuck out of this game right now."
Yeah. Stop.
Everyone voting for Fuzzy at end of cycle is fairgame for D3 lynch IMO.

who even are you

[notscience]

I really can't be assed to do either

I was moreso stating I don't really remember most of the peopl ein this game but

[notscience]

my foots so far down my throat I can taste my rear

[notscience]

It will make me look scummier than I am

so im not scummy

and youre trying to lynch me

??

And I clearly haven't cared if you lynch me or not, I'll get to go to the dead PT and talk to Sakura some, we're already up 2 scum so it doesnt really matter if we ML

[notscience]

make you look more scummy than you are.

by your own admission i am not very scummy yet you are wagoning me

[notscience]

you should probably ask better questions if you're not looking for a simple "i'm town" or "i don't give a smurf what you do"

^

It doesn't really matter now because lol shitty last second jump on me by everyone imminent, but whatever.

[notscience]

Oka, you told me if I did that for you last night you'd vote thor over me!

[notscience]

That thing

Back at your place

you know

[notscience]

WELL I'M HAVING THIS BABY WITH OR WITHOUT YOUR HELP

[notscience]

We were going to be lynching me regardless.

[notscience]

Like, people don't really care if someone's town or not

it's all about the content

all about what they put in the thread

if god forbid they dont do things

or god forbid they be apathetic

everyone loses their minds

These past few days and thor counterwagon are laughable, it's only prolonging the inevitable

[notscience]

hell I have no idea how I am stil lalive

I wish I had any sort of bearing right now so I didnt' feel like a fucking freeloader living off of marquis but frankly

no idea

pedit-
I'm not the one who has to live with what has transpired today, you tell me

If I really was upset about being caught or whatever, why not just stop posting?

Because I'm on a warpath to condemn this bullshit that tries to paint apathy as a scumtell when there are thousands of reasons it can be a thing

[notscience]

Like really

I think tomorrow, what needs to happen is like "where are they now' where we interview the constituents of my wagon and why they joined and then shame their pasts

[notscience]

It's almost like things have changed in my current situation which then effects my mood and therefore my writing!

[notscience]

No but I know I'm town.

[notscience]

I reallyhave no opinion on thor its just survivalism.

[notscience]

There's a case?

I thought the case was "lol he has been lurking and apathetic"

And I hate subbing out and making the mod replace me.

[notscience]

And I sure hope you aren't acusing someone

playing a game of mafia

where EVERYONE has to manipulate

of being manipuative

[notscience]

Your case essentially boils down to me being useless and you acting like it's anything more than that is laughable.

Here's something for you-

Why would both scum be driving a D1 wagon so early on it?

Why would I not go after a scumread I noted having a bad reaction to the wagon on day 1, after the other person who had a bad reaction to the wagon flipped scum?

[notscience]

You keep acting like there's a way to argue against a case that is essentially "you were not here"

Well I wasn't

How am I supposed to defend against that

[notscience]

out of interest, if you do live through the day, are you planning to stop being an unhappy bundle of apathy?

Yeah, but I might just do a "start fresh as if this day is day 1" thing because I dont remember most of the game and dont have time to reread 90 pages

pedit-

can I get back to you when im not exhausted

I will participate but I can't exactly do that if i don't know whats going on

tbh all Im really worried about rn is getting through to D3 then ill worry about who is scum

[notscience]

I remember otolia had a shitty reaction to the flames wagon but i dont remember who newtolia is

I think oka is town because i dont see why scum would go back and forht htis hard around dl

[notscience]

why would muffin know that

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I remember otolia had like this weird whiteknight of flames that just struck a wrong chord with me

[notscience]

maybe looks green if you look through the right color cellophane?

[notscience]

tbh it looks like to me sakura knew that a conftown vars was a threat to her and wanted to distance

pedit-

I don't really know but glad to see my real life can change my alignment

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page

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90

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Okay now I really need to go to bed, see you in postgame I guess

[notscience]

didnt droog question me earlier about my comments about how shitty the wagon is

he's probably scum off the wagon

[notscience]

lol

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(especially with Watcher dying Day 1...)