Three-Pronged Trouser God Mafia GAME OVER- Happy Ending?

[Gorkington]

my role is that i can never claim what my role is.

vote: farside

[Gorkington]

we could role

play

with you if you want.

[Gorkington]

im so unaroused.

I think you could just pretend to be Clint Eastwood, Oversoul.

why are you so boring.

[Gorkington]

feel the pressure risin' up.

vote: prof

[Gorkington]

if you're thinking of calling me scum based of a "stiff" post and a post that doesn't belong in rvs, then you have no business in trying to meta me.

doing things that I think scum could tag on.

such as what you're doing here

first quote reads like talking at someone she knows is town which is scummy in and of itself.
second quote is a total flip on manner of engagement
ie, "your metadiving is badly done do it better leme convince you why its bad girl" vs "i think youre just trying to jump on me u scumface"
overly overdefensive too. if thats out of character for mara then even more delicious.

[Gorkington]

yeah man.
going for that opportunistic second page second vote on wagon move.
the classic scum move.

[Gorkington]

i reserve the right to a gold star if mara is scum for being committed on page two meanwhile mr. zzzx flaked for poocake reasons.
he lost his gold star opportunity.

[Gorkington]

i like my reasoning.

[Gorkington]

if she thought you were scum, why would she try to convince you that your metadive was wrong?
her being overdefensive is pretty obv and im frankly emotionally shocked that youre implying its not.

[Gorkington]

if you're thinking of calling me scum based of a "stiff" post and a post that doesn't belong in rvs, then you have no business in trying to meta me.

doing things that I think scum could tag on.

such as what you're doing here

yeah youre right.
i dont see any overdefensiveness at all.

[Gorkington]

I am not convincing you that what I said first is wrong. I am convincing you that your reasoning is wrong.
There is a differnace.

you either just ignored first part of my response or misunderstood it.
i dont know what to tell you.

[Gorkington]

zzz u better take this engage seriously and try to understand me.
or ill go dominant on yo ass.

[Gorkington]

i asked you about something mara said.
you responded about something you said.
we aint on the same page.
dont make me get the paddle out.

[Gorkington]

getting bored again.
mara.
if you were posturing about him latching onto easy reasons for scumreading you as if he was scummy for it, why say this after?

and he could very easily be town who thinks he knows my meta, when he doesn't.

and imply that youre closer to waffling than finding him scummy?

[Gorkington]

Because you haven't yet experienced the mind fuck that is Titus.

yes i have.
im MARVELing that youve forgotten me so easily.

Am confused.

Will ... do nothing for now...

because I made the post as an easy post to latch onto, yet he took an approach I didn't really expect?

I wasn't expecting to me meta-read off it, as I'm pretty sure anyone who actually knew how I play and how I operated wouldn't use that as a reason, and I also doubted that there were people out there who "knew my meta" with out really knowing it

so youre going back and forth on his reaction then?

ZZZX was never famous for tunnelling so I don't know where gork is getting the idea that I feel pressured

what does zzz's rep have to do with things?
where was i implying that you felt pressured?
unless you just mean that the defensiveness would stem from feeling pressured if you were scum, which i dont agree with.

[Gorkington]

nacho will come in one day and call me town

if this doesnt happen am i allowed to votepark on you for forever?
;D

[Gorkington]

i wanted something sexual to go along with me adding a vote to the wagon.

[Gorkington]

so youd say that you generally tend to act stiff in most rvs as a strategy as town?
have you ever done it as scum if so?

[Gorkington]

absolutely to both?

[Gorkington]

okay mara thats enough selfawareness for now.
can you overextrapolate some thoughts for me on xtoxm, farside and titus?

pedit, bye zzzx. hopefully the bruises dont last too long.

[Gorkington]

those are a pair of terrible terrible scumreads.

[Gorkington]

voided. im gonna give you until page ten. to obvtown.
because my omgut is tingling and i dont trust it.

I...what bullshit is this?

grrrrr.

Not seeing it. Seems more like "you're not meta-ing me correctly" than any sort of overdefensiveness.

two different points.
try again.

Answered by the first line in 64.

except it wasnt clear because there were two conflicting posts on the matter.
grrrrrr.
youre making me angry.

[Gorkington]

they should be!
because then your reads would be better!

[Gorkington]

Don't you "Grrrr" me, that's a stupid reason for call someone scum!

where did i "for call" someone scum that youre referring to here.

Wasn't the overdefensive point linked to the "you shouldn't meta me" thing? I'm pretty sure it was.

linked? sure.
doesnt mean that you didnt ignore reasoning i like more than the overdefensiveness to call my vote bad/scummy.

[Gorkington]

So what exactly did "classic scum move" mean, then?

i was commenting on my own play, duh.

What, you mean your reasons in 48, among others?

hella.

I'm was only talking about the overdefensiveness anyways there, not your reasons as a whole. And even then your point on the contradictory ZZZX interaction IMO only counts if you believe that mara was being overdefensive/talking to someone as if she knew they were town. And I don't think that way.

the explainy manner of it was what bothered me. like "let me explain why u r wrong" why would she care about explaining if she thinks hes scum like she indicated in the second post? its becoming increasingly moot the more stuff goes on, as im more interested in other stuff involving mara atm, but ill probably talk about that later.

Also, as another thing toward 61, why does mara have to think ZZZX is town to question his metadiving?

to me, it reads a lot like mara is trying to convince zzz that hes wrong, rather than actually trying to probe into his reasoning or anything. which would give off more of an impression of her believing that hes town on the wrong track.

prof. talk at me about how youre reading titus atm.

[Gorkington]

because im interested in her.
and in you, for the moment at least.

[Gorkington]

maybe if he posts some more.

vote: tip

[Gorkington]

^titus is probably scum btw.

[Gorkington]

I feel like I always scum read her.
Best results for me is wait and see.

my gut likes her for scum so far at about the same level as marvel.
willing to give her some space to probably scum it up some more though.
(:

[Gorkington]

so youre not going to tell wisdom hes wrong?
;D

[Gorkington]

step one: if she diplomatically tries to reach out to people in a really awkward way shes probably scum.
step two: if she avoids people talking about her, probably also scum.
step three: if she says things that actually literally dont make any kind of sense then shes probably scum.

ive seen slight variations on all three of these things and now that ive pointed them out you can expect all kinds of interesting defusing strategies from her.

im interested enough to see where tipwagon goes that im willing to make a case and hardpush this in a little bit when titus has more content on the table i can push her for. especially when she decides to stop ignoring me.

[Gorkington]

Also, pretty sure scumtitus makes more sense than towntitius

i find she uses little white lies to embellish things more as scum and they usually stand out to me a lot more than the things people cry about her not making any sense about.

@Gork/WN, I haven't tried to "reach out" to anyone. I barely have any reads in this stage. Asking for an equal standard isn't a reach out.

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

Second, I don't avoid people talking about me. Doubly so as scum as replying to bullshit let's be drown out town.

considering I'm not really going to stop telling people if they are wrong.

right.
sure.
okay.

[Gorkington]

oh wait last quote is the opposite of what i thought it meant.
youve still been ignoring me dickishly calling you scum up until now.
grr.

[Gorkington]

when have you been d1 mislynched?
pedit, i didnt read that thread when i pushed you in marvel.
;D

[Gorkington]

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

your engage with mara isnt yo reaching out? are you kidding me?

[Gorkington]

dont ignore the things that matter to argue dummy points.
ill grill you so hard for that.

[Gorkington]

i am a mysterious individual.

also not talking for a while because quite frankly profgessor hurt my feelings and i am going to silently protest by gagging and bounding myself.

I think he has a thing for titus and he likes her and wants to take her to bed but she has no interest in him.

this was a little too romantic for the context of this game imo.

[Gorkington]

im post restricted to be useless in my role pm

no youre not.

im going to pretend that the reason that im not going to vote for titus today is that ikas trash play wrt her in every game is worth protesting by not supporting it.
sure.
right.
yeah.
[you throwing a pity party is literally what i expect you to be doing as scum here tho so...
consider yourself lucky that i feel bad at the idea of being wrong -.-]
[[on a semi-related note i would be curious as to how mastin is reading titus]]

[Gorkington]

Where did that vote come from?

it came from the depths of my mind.

Neither this.

so you think white would lie about coming up positive to every tracker.
because that would be easy to fake.
??????

[Gorkington]

Why those names? Had any of them done anything significant 'till that post?

im not sure you think before asking questions like these.

i do think youre probably town for dum unrelated reasons though.

also in the gork townpile are: prof, zzzx and oversoul!
work hard and maybe someday soon you can join them!

[Gorkington]

I get fosed for my town indicators

you think the diplomatic bit is a town indicator for you?

[Gorkington]

What if it has been a kind of pre-emptive move?

hypothetical scenario:
"hi my name is gork1 and i watched gork2 last night and white narcissus didnt target them."
wow sure was worth the fakeclaim.
if anything white could be telling the truth and also be scum.

Do you think a player who's just tried to catch up with the game is scummier than 23 others? La wow!

why is this relevant?

[Gorkington]

and yet youre voting for saint over tip?

[Gorkington]

im out of it today leave me alone.

[Gorkington]

This pings me as to who your are but I'm not going to guess if you don't want me to.

welcome to guess.
someone else figured me out a while back already.

[Gorkington]

if only i were someone that good.
i will take the compliment though.
;D

[Gorkington]

i have a strong townread there

really? :/

i thought you'd be most likely to be frustrated as town than scum, considering scum normally shouldn't feel too bad about being lynched because town is being correct.

you really think this reads as genuine?

Then your motivation for trying to shake off a townread on you? I see literally no scum motivation for that,

this feels like a stretch.
if youre getting gutfeels from this, then fair enough, but i disagree that scumtitus wouldnt feign incredulity at being townread at this point in the game. frankly it makes me a little wary that youre acting like scum couldnt fake something like this, considering youre pretty good at scum at least from what ive seen of you.

[Gorkington]

im not sure what people are seeing in a saint wagon over tip wagon.
in all seriousness.
im feeling kind of bad about how quick that wagon is spurting up when tip wagon has better backing and was here first.

[Gorkington]

i think maras 100% guarantee is more compelling than "he lied about his role".
and hes been around and posting elsewhere onsite since she made that claim so it reads more like avoidance.
so why is he getting by while probably active lurking and meanwhile MoF gets dogpiled on for shitposting but at least voting and not overly trying to fake tone/productivity?

[Gorkington]

if the merit of the MoF or saint wagons are that theyre shitposting and people want content from them, then choosing them over tip is baffling.
if the merit of the MoF or saint wagons are that theyre faking a post restriction then you might as well flip a coin. ive seen more town than scum faking a post restriction.

[Gorkington]

god youre being lazy. this game isnt even being remotely fast for 25 players -.-

VOTE: TIP

You make me sad, my love.

I declare him scum off my experience of perfect record of reading him

i think maras 100% guarantee is more compelling than "he lied about his role".
and hes been around and posting elsewhere onsite since she made that claim so it reads more like avoidance.
so why is he getting by while probably active lurking and meanwhile MoF gets dogpiled on for shitposting but at least voting and not overly trying to fake tone/productivity?

if the merit of the MoF or saint wagons are that theyre shitposting and people want content from them, then choosing them over tip is baffling.
if the merit of the MoF or saint wagons are that theyre faking a post restriction then you might as well flip a coin. ive seen more town than scum faking a post restriction.

[Gorkington]

okay.
1. our good friend dramonic was town in marquis's last pokemon upick. he faked a post restriction in that game. literally no reason to either.
2. are mof and saint both scum faking a post restriction? are we going to lynch mof d2 because surely there is 100% no reason town would ever fake a post restriction?
3. why would we lynch him over letting a vig shoot him?
4. surely this is at best a coin flip. saint is pretty terrible as town imo. i would literally be shocked negative amounts if he was just shitposting as town here. why would we not lynch someone we actually think is scum based on play thereby generating more content?

[Gorkington]

im trying really hard not to think people are scum for playing underwhelmingly based on my expectations for them.
trying really hard.

[Gorkington]

[which is the same point im trying to make with saint]

[Gorkington]

wisdom.
ill fight you.
with my fists.
if you dont answer this question for yourself.
based on my posts from the LAST PAGE.

[Gorkington]

almost every post these last two pages makes me want to scream.

[Gorkington]

if shos starts posting normally (which looks like it will be the case) while ms avoids the game I'll take it as a scumtell

so mof avoiding the game is scummy
but tip avoiding the game when he has mara making the 100% claim isnt scummy.
brb.
screaming.
internally and externally.

[Gorkington]

and you think shos is actively avoiding the game when as scum hes clearly proven to be capable of tricking most people (including you)

You don't even wanna imagine how I feel...

then leave and come back.
i may be being a melodramatic jerk right now, but at least im trying to get content on the table instead of just moping around about the sad pathetic state of the game.

[Gorkington]

while ms avoids the game I'll take it as a scumtell

i got it backwards, youre right.
so you think ms is trying to hide behind his gimmick to avoid dropping tells?
is his scumgame that transparent?

[Gorkington]

so you think him lying about having a post restriction is something he would only do as scum here?
is that the gist of this?
you think ms wouldnt troll as town here?

[Gorkington]

lol.
quotes of where im doing that please.

[Gorkington]

like, literally the exact fucking opposite.
i was trying to point out how dumb wisdom's argument felt to me via questioning him on it.
are you that bad at reading context?

[Gorkington]

Stop posting so much damn it.

"I HAVE NO RESPONSE SO IM GOING TO ATTACK HOW MUCH YOURE POSTING"

[Gorkington]

if this game was out of control big and i was posting too much, i would maybe understand.
but this game was stagnating on three separate wagons for three relatively similar reasons.
if the game was going anywhere and wasnt being quiet, i could get you being pissy here.
but im trying to drive the game and you complaining about two posts where im trying to pull apart wisdoms reasoning and then attacking my activity levels is shit/distracting and you know it.

[Gorkington]

like, im driving the wagon that youre sitting while youre merely taking lazy potshots at people.
and you want to paint the picture that im scummy for two posts when my iso is full of genuine energy trying to get this game moving?
gotcha.
see you on d2 when i hardpush you and dont feel bad about it.

[Gorkington]

hell yeah im defensive when someone is making points about how "scummy" i am for terrible reasons.

[Gorkington]

i think its a combination of feeling annoyed at titus taking a potshot at post frequency and at a really lame "oh man this point sure looks scummy on paper"-point against me shes making.
i especially feel like its coming from a disingenuous place because im pushing the wagon shes on and all she has time to say is "oh man gork sure is scummy, better keep my vote on the wagon hes pushing" and literally nothing else. no comments on gamestate. nothing about where she wants to vote. just "man look how bad this looks when i take it out of context, rite guys?" like she cares more about pointing it out to everyone than she does on actually sorting me.
it basically feels like a phoned in and pathetic attempt to try and sling shit at me and i was annoyed by it.

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

Why are you trying to get lynched at this point?

why do you keep nitpicking to find little things wrong with me rather than addressing bigger picture points im making?
you really have no issue with that bigger post i just made wrt you?
if you seriously think me being defensive is going to get me lynched vs you selectively engaging terrible aspects of this game then youre at best being delusional here.

pedit tip isnt vla either.

[Gorkington]

Right, she wasn't caught up.
And she flipped town

we're right on track to quicklynch tip in this 25 player game three days in too.
amirite.
or amirite.

[Gorkington]

you think he was being ducking truthful?
Duck that

okay thor

can someone with experience with tip tell me when theyre around?
id like to talk out his latest few posts with someone who knows his playstyle.

[Gorkington]

like hes changed in general or hes playing a lot differently this game from what you expect from him?

[Gorkington]

basically, im just wondering if you have any thoughts on the manner hes handling the game.
like.
him being like "welp wagon on me is happening" but no comment on the people on it for the most part. no response to mara saying "i 100% scumread him". and hes either trying to scumhunt or trying to seem like hes scumhunting, so it doesnt really match up super well with what i saw earlier of someone who just genuinely doesnt care that much about the game.
he was reading closely enough to poke at a random quote from voided, but not closely enough to comment on anything else?
i know it might sound like im trying to frame this like its scummy, but im honestly just confused by it more than anything.
as scum it would probably be easy for him to roll his eyes if that was something hes known for [which i kind of got the impression from in his first 3-4 posts], so him instead just kind of playing it straight but in a weird way is just weird to me.

basically, halp im confused.

[Gorkington]

ah.
so.
because there might be more than one neighborhood.
wgeurts must have been lying.
owait.

[Gorkington]

literally so many games.
like.
an uncountable set.

[Gorkington]

someone else do it pls.

let me put it another way though.
what would be the balancing reason against there being more than one neighborhood such that the idea of having more than one of them would be absurd?

[Gorkington]

nah.
someone else can do it.
im not ruining my alt for you and im not going to go hunting for games when you could just go and do it yourself.

moral of the story is that your reasoning is terrible and you should feel bad.
and im going to continue to be a dick about it in return as long as you keep up this aura of dickishness.

[Gorkington]

im annoyed that i feel like jaqen is townier for having pushed this.

[Gorkington]

how about you stop being boring.

[Gorkington]

im aware.
research and converse with me about these subject matters:
tipwagon/profgessor's push for tipwagon specifically.
titus vs me.
saint/mof pushes.

i expect you to hand in your assignment when class resumes next week on monday. otherwise youll go straight to detention with me and given the theme of this game you may or may not enjoy that.

[Gorkington]

hey slobber.
can you sign your posts?
so i can know who im yelling at.

[Gorkington]

you have my sword.

vote: titus

[Gorkington]

I don't see scum making this claim

just because you wouldnt do it doesnt mean no scum would..
why are you bothering keeping your vote parked on tip if youre so vehemently opposed to it?

This game isn't even close to hitting a 100 page d1 and there's a ridiculous amount of filler in it

and so in response to that youre nakedvoting oversoul and not trying to push it.
amazeballs.

[Gorkington]

^pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

[Gorkington]

im aware.
research and converse with me about these subject matters:
tipwagon/profgessor's push for tipwagon specifically.
titus vs me.
saint/mof pushes.

i expect you to hand in your assignment when class resumes next week on monday. otherwise youll go straight to detention with me and given the theme of this game you may or may not enjoy that.

[Gorkington]

prove that youre town.

[Gorkington]

eww

do i have to tunnel you and call you scum to get you to start putting effort into this game?
i could try that if you want.

[Gorkington]

huh?
did you take my joke seriously?
cmon pisskop.
youre better than this.

[Gorkington]

im so bored of our lame back and forths pisskop.
talk at me about titus.
how are you reading her.
if youre not reading her.
go and do it.
or replace out.
i think either could be fantastic options.

[Gorkington]

all im gathering from what youre saying is that there is so much useless shit sitting in this playerbase, so we should ignore titus because she wont just fuck around and do nothing.
are you nullreading her or townreading her?
why do you need flips to read her?

[Gorkington]

We mustn't talk about Titus I we have a guide on how to read her.

i sincerely hope youre being sarcastic.
also, youre voting for oversoul right now for being a chair.
you dont get to pull apart wagons for vapid reasons while sitting on such a shit vote.

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

youre sitting on a jokevote.
and being offended about being called useless.
i find your outrage questionable.

[Gorkington]

jaqen goes in my townbin.

I didn't say I'm offended, strawmanning is a crime.

Do you know why nobody has posted since you posted this?

It's because everyone knows you should be banned out of the game for this an their just waiting for me to show a reaction. Here it is. You are banned from forum mafia forever. Good bye

right.

[Gorkington]

vote: master

put this guy in a ditch.

[Gorkington]

1. I gave MS permission (lolz) to troll the fuck out of you till I come in

seems like garbage attempt to disarm ms doing nothing.

i don't know who gorkington is but he sounds like a good man!

I'll counter argue with that using the fact that in the last 3 pages I read, gork has made at least 2 attacks on SUPER weak points, which were OBVIOUSLY wrong; he later even admitted mistake, but regardless, nitpicking at its best, and even if those arguments were actually spot on, they were weak as hell and wouldn't convince me to direct my dick in that direction

*post of master agreeing with me on jaqen*

possibly glork too but I think everyone's townreading that slut so dunno.

this progression seems like bullshit to me.

i think both of the heads of this hydra are blatantly hiding behind too much jokey bullshit, especially sonic, who's avoidance of engaging people calling him scummy for hiding behind jokey bullshit seems especially scummy.

[Gorkington]

someday.
but not today.

[Gorkington]

1. There is a.reason we sign our posts, so that you know who is talking. You cant say progression if posts are by differeny heads.

except there are posts where someone isnt signing. literally quotes in the post youre responding to have no signature on them.
so.
shocking that i thought maybe 1-2 of them might have been coming from you when they were in the middle of a stream of your posts and didnt have a sig.

even more shocking is that it really seems like youre trying overly hard to make me look bad, such that youre trying to pretend that something didnt happen that did..

2. Nobidy agreed with you on Jaqen, or actually on anything. Ms trolling saying you sound like a good man =\= agreement on anything.

lol what the fuck?

im annoyed that i feel like jaqen is townier for having pushed this.

This.
In addition to my previous townread on him which I don't remember why but I recall me saying 'good good good post', this reads to me like Jaqen is DEFINITELY making some kind of a notelist, and using them for scumhunting/figuring the game out. even if this has been wrong in a very lollish newbieish way, that slut is town.


ehm, slot, yes. not slut....



/master

are you kidding?

Misrepping hugely in order to mudsling both heads? Where did my head 'hide behund jokey bullshit'?

Spoiler: master's jokey bullshit

first actual thing to comment about!
1. I gave MS permission (lolz) to troll the fuck out of you till I come in
2. holy shit how cumz you guys aren't roleplaying sexy shit.
3. many males in this game, definitely multiball

This game isn't interesting yet, I'm after 10 pages with only a single townread on a slot whose name I forget

/master

ZOMG this could be so amazing
considering that wisdom is in hydra with sakura and I am with sonic, this team would FUCK EVERYONE WITH NO LUBE

I'm laughing loudly
I'm not a chair and may as well ask the same

anyway

ROFLCOPTERZING hahahahahhhhahaaaa this is hilarious

I'm laughing like 30 seconds straight here

yes. there is content in there. but the majority of your posts are just kidding around, which would be fine, but people are legitimately calling ms scummy for his avoidance and youre trying to play it off like its not a big deal and trying to match his tone.

come at me dont just fucking half ass a shit attack on me.
bring it on.

[Gorkington]

talk at me about the "discussion" going on between your heads on my slot.
get it?
im saying "discussion" with those quotations marks because like.
you probably arent doing it until now.
;D

[Gorkington]

and yet youre not really doing that.
why not?

[Gorkington]

we both agreed that you're obvtown.

what the fuck.

[Gorkington]

was this in the scumPT?
because there is literally nothing in this thread to imply that shos is doing anything other than scumreading me.
at all.
like not even a little bit.

[Gorkington]

by now I am comfortable with voting either pisskop for a billion reasons or Saint as policy.

possibly glork

too but I think everyone's townreading that slut so dunno.

Ps this is why I can lynch him

[Gorkington]

well thats pretty disgusting.

yeah those people deserve a fart in the face

and yet youre not really doing that.
why not?

this.
answer this too.
why are you not addressing people pushing you?

[Gorkington]

i just farted in wisdom's face! do you want me to fart in voided's face too?

im asking why youre not TALKING with them. farting at him is avoidance.
why are you handling them with kid gloves when there is truth to the fact that youre playing around a little too much this game?
are they scummy for pushing you?
are they misguided? why not convince them theyre wrong if so?
words at me.
more thought process.
more something.

i'm trying not to spam the game. just 24 hours ago we were one of the lower ones in postcount!

you could post things with actual content.
then maybe your post count wont seem like fluffy spam?

[Gorkington]

if there are enough people who know how to read you here, i can really easily see wisdom's argument.
itd be easy to pretend like youre trolling around as scum if the alternative is making yourself obviously scummy through disingenuous feeling play.
explain why this is wrong.

[Gorkington]

gives you more time to ease into it if you are scum?

are you implying that you believe that your scumgame in full non-troll application would fly under the radar of wisdom/titus and wouldnt come across as a little fake?

p-edit: because i like the logic of what wisdoms been saying about you. especially given how long its taken you to actually articulate a lot of this stuff

[Gorkington]

I can't read shos, it has been proven over and over, so I am not even trying to read him. ms I can read, but he has decided not to contribute a single post of content. So I want to see them hang so I can sleep safely.

i dont particularly agree with the sentiment of lynching you because you cant be read.
but i do think theres validity to the fact that you could be scum trying to avoid dropping real content in the game.
tell me your strongest scumread and reasoning for it.

[Gorkington]

TownPile:

Jaqen Hghar
Oversoul
Anenien

ProbablyTownPile:

Profgessor Emotion (Mastin2 and Ms Maraganal)- needs to post more to move up

Naively Townpile:

Spiffeh Vifam - good content but thats probably a bad reason to be townreading them
Farside22 - scared of moving this slot anywhere higher
White Narcissus (Wisdom and Sakura Hana) - scared of moving this slot anywhere higher

MehGutTownPile:

ZZZX - needs to post more to move up
Pisskop wgurts - needs to post more to move up
Flubbernugget - eh.
dramoic - ehhhh.

Nullpile/IGotNothingOnYouButYoureActuallyPostingPile:

Quaroath
Xtoxm
Voidedmafia

DoSomethingNotablePile[This pile is way too fucking big]:

Fresh
Titus

NakedJogger

Imperium (Nachomamma8 and Tammy)

Idiot Savant (Bellaphant and ika)

Saint

TheIrishPope

ActionDan

Slobberknocker

PostingButMaybeProssiblyStillScumPile:

Masters of fart (Metal Sonic and Shos)

bolded is who i would consider lynching today.
imperium should get more aggressive. i want them out of the bottom pile asap for the sake of my sanity.

[Gorkington]

(expired on 2015-08-21 12:00:00)
^i will join u then.

[Gorkington]

there are things i value more than pushing a slot thats likely to be scum who isnt going to respond to pressure.
things that i want four days to try and accomplish first.

[Gorkington]

unfortunately as much as i like using rhetoric to get what i want, i dont want to push a wagon that will probably actually go through on more rhetoric than substance at this point in the game.
i want more time to sort the shitty end of this playerlist, dont you?
or do you like the idea of rushing to midgame with 10-15 lurkers without trying to sort through that shit first?

[Gorkington]

like, i want to go into this d2 feeling pretty good about my reads.
im not there yet.
if we start hardpushing a tiplynch i think itll probs go through at this point and ill be feeling pretty decentered if he flips town.

[Gorkington]

Like if you really really really need me to start going through his meta so you can lynch a lurking scum with a clear conscience then fine

if you link 2-3 games that you feel summarize this well then maybe.
(ill probably still be stubborn tho <3)

@871, Cork, how do you have me on your do nothing list, when you were voting me because you didn't like my earlier posts?

one of the main reasons ive thought that youre scummy is that it feels like youve been playing with what feels like a lack of oomph behind anything youre doing in general.
i did some homework though and now im not as sure about scumread on you because reasons which i cant talk about which is yay!

Why is post quantity relevant to your Prof read?

because im paranoid, the slot has good players hydra-ing together and if they were being consistently obvtown in the thread i would be more confident in the read there? zzzx dropped on my readslist for a similar reason to a stronger degree.

Why are you making me a major wagon when you have no intent on lynching me?

am i making you a major wagon?

Why aren't you voting and making cases on people like Slobber, who you would want lynched today?

"why arent u making ten cases on a bunch of lurkers?"

[Gorkington]

nacho.
make a case.
instead of shouting at wisdom.
ill like you if you do.

[Gorkington]

me probably.
sorry.

and this is what i was talking about.
this wagon is gonna explode now.

[Gorkington]

we're hoping for some backscratching in return.

if i like it, ok.

@Gork, look at that last VC again. You have like five players you want to lynch. You could make a case on any of them. My wagon is a top three wagon so yes you're making me a major wagon.

Second, most of the people in your bolded have actually posted. Particularly Fart. I want your vote to match your intentions. That cognitive dissonance creeps me out.

titus im not even voting you.
im voting for master of fart and have been for a while.
try to keep up.
i put people in that list who either had a disturbing lack of substance despite posting many times in a way that i felt could be coming from scum or people who are lurking and havent given me any townvibes. do you understand now?

There's also a "just the tip" response to your fears of a hardpush but I can't piece it together right now

i appreciate the setup to this joke that could have been.

[Gorkington]

slow this game down please.
let nacho make a case.
i literally have no interest in wisdom/ms back-and-forth filled with rhetoric and shouting.

[Gorkington]

"my name is ms and im worried about seeming like im spamming"

[Gorkington]

please make it easier for the vig to choose policy shots by not being an idiot and filling the thread with garbage.
kthankyou.

nacho, could i also get your thoughts on shos's weird waffle on me?
i would appreciate some intelligent commentary on that.

[Gorkington]

we both agreed that you're obvtown.

are you going to explain this shos?

[Gorkington]

flubber can switch places with white in my reads now.
wisdom. link games where youve seen ika play like this as town.

[Gorkington]

white was right.
he wasnt calling ika town.
flubber has misled me.

VOTE: Professor Emotion

wow pretty solid catch-up.
glad you made such a huge fuss over replacing out of your alt as though it was a big deal.

[Gorkington]

2. you're not the only one scumreading gork. well maybe. (btw someone requested explanation on gork sohere it is). I'm suspicious of him but he's really on two ends, like, either super obvtown of all, or real scumz, in my eyes. MS thinks he's obvtown, so our hydra is on average obvtowning him, but in general, I'm not giving him a free pass to lylo. no worries, but not yet love, not yet

[Gorkington]

This.
In addition to my previous townread on him which I don't remember why but I recall me saying 'good good good post', this reads to me like Jaqen is DEFINITELY making some kind of a notelist, and using them for scumhunting/figuring the game out. even if this has been wrong in a very lollish newbieish way, that slut is town.


ehm, slot, yes. not slut....



/master

1. There is a.reason we sign our posts, so that you know who is talking. You cant say progression if posts are by differeny heads.
2. Nobidy agreed with you on Jaqen, or actually on anything. Ms trolling saying you sound like a good man =\= agreement on anything.

Misrepping hugely in order to mudsling both heads? Where did my head 'hide behund jokey bullshit'?

/master

Ps this is why I can lynch him

by now I am comfortable with voting either pisskop for a billion reasons or Saint as policy.

possibly glork too

but I think everyone's townreading that slut so dunno.

/master

2. you're not the only one scumreading gork. well maybe. (btw someone requested explanation on gork sohere it is). I'm suspicious of him but he's really on two ends, like, either super obvtown of all, or real scumz, in my eyes. MS thinks he's obvtown, so our hydra is on average obvtowning him, but in general,

I'm not giving him a free pass to lylo. no worries, but not yet love, not yet

i really.
really.
want to say this is scum bullshit.
"im not giving him a pass to lylo" =/= "he was my third choice for who i want to lynch earlier"
thats fucking colossal dissonance.

[Gorkington]

How do you even do it?

i manually quote.
my browser breaks whenever i try to use quoting buttons on this forum.

regarding first and second quote - there's a difference between agreeing with you and thinking the same as you. we can think the same for different reasons. the fact I think Jaqen is town has nothing to do with anything YOU posted.

you said "THIS" as in "THIS POST IS A REASON IM TOWNREADING JAQEN".
why the fuck are you even playing a game like this? youre clearly lying and i cant tell if its coming from a place of town arrogance or scum whos dancing around all of their bullshit.

The part where you say you were my third candidate for lynching? no, not by far. If I recall correctly, that post was completely taken out of context and timing, and it was WAAAAY before I caught up. I couldn't remember even half the names in the game back then let alone make a readslist, in order, of who I want to lynch.

how the fuck is it taken out of context? you said "i would vote gork but everyone is townreading him" how is that out of context?
how is it not you saying literally what it says you said?
yes, it was before youd fully caught up.
it doesnt change that you still said it.
what bugs me is that it feels like youre trying to disown it like youd never actually thought it.
youre trying so damn hard to make it clear that youre actually waffling super hard on whether im scum or obvious town [which is kind of paradoxically ridiculous to imply as an actual thought process that i have serious doubts that youre actually going through], rather than coming clean with the fact that you tried to push me as scum, sonic said you were calling me obvtown and now youre waffling.
in all it reads like a messy pile of complete and total bullshit being spewed in a frantic attempt to casually explain away a crap-ton of dissonance.

[Gorkington]

like
in my head, i can really easily see internal monologue of shos being like:
"shit i said gork was scum earlygame, but now sonic is saying that im apparently obvtownreading him, looks like i have to pretend like im waffling two fucking extreme ends of the spectrum for my read there"
it literally makes no sense to me otherwise.

[Gorkington]

nacho help.
you said you would.

is it not complete horseshit that shos is trying to handwave his waffling with "oh man well my scumgame is good so maybe your's is too" as reasoning here?

[Gorkington]

so you think the reasoning being "whacked out" is just him playing bad?

[Gorkington]

he is the low hanging fruit that all the scums are picking for his inactivity

this is bad reasoning. kind of like "this wagon was too quick to be on scum" level bad reasoning.
having this strong of a townread on TiP is kind of ridiculous imo.
but whatevs.

I'm saying both my and MS' scumgame is elaborate and pre-thought. This isn't even nearly it from either of s.

i feel like you know why this is bad.

because scum dont have hydra dissonance!

.. this doesnt even make sense in this context.

Yes and yes.

okay.
if you could talk about this in detail sometime this cycle i would appreciate it.

i feel like i need to recenter.

[Gorkington]

VOTE: idiot
choo chooooooooo.

[Gorkington]

vla.
three days or so i think.

[Gorkington]

just a small number of spammers making the game look bigger than it should

if this is even remotely directed at me then:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

how dare you

Pisskop is an obvious cw to TiP.

or to ikaslot.
or to lora.
or maybe its not a counterwagon at all and youre being awfully contrived right now to try and force through this tip wagon.
pisskop is hard to read in general. him being wagoned isnt particularly shocking or bad imo. are you townreading him? because if youre not then this objection feels forced.

[Gorkington]

i mean.
i dont think ive played a game with you where i havent thought you were scum.
im just throwing my hands up in the air this game and not worrying about it for now.

though a wagon casually being on you is kind of fun because i get to analyze you and your response to it without thinking too hard about it.

i think im more concerned about titus's forceful play here, especially since tipwagon is being held up on a pedestal a little too high by her. i cant disagree that tip isnt technically scumhunting and that hes being apathetic and kind of terrible, but i dont see the correlation with how thats certainly coming from scum vs town playing badly and i feel kind of sketched out on her insistence there, especially since that insistence usually only generally tends to come from places shes notably comfortable in, such as vca and the like.

i was peeking through tip's iso again and i feel like this:

Didn't know she was voting me. Someone had actually told me that she left the site. This means she's scum, because Mara reads me correctly 100% of the time.

felt pretty robotic, but im still feeling waffly. blehhh.
are you willing to talk at me yet about things or are we destined to go our separate ways?

vezok should do his own catch-up.
50 pages isnt that much.

[Gorkington]

you let that go easily for a policy lynch of the ika slot. And now you're giving a summary of the game to that same slot which is busy work more than anything.

this is a tasty catch.


@piss, truly we are meant to walk different paths of life.
tragic.
im sad that this has happened.

[Gorkington]

what youre seriously going to feign outrage at the fact that you arent trying to actually get anything out of vezok right now?
posturing in a manner of "wow i cant believe u guys think this is scummy" is probably the worst possible reaction you could be having right now.
but hey you could always fall back on complaining about the number of posts instead.

[Gorkington]

i asked you to talk with me and you ignored me.

[Gorkington]

Gork, I know I ignored you. But whats this about Xtot?

"hey vezok, ur scum right? alright heres whats happening in this game instead of asking you a question about something actually valid. also the other players in this game are trash and im way above them and acting superior for some reason."

I actually wanted to participate right now

if you replace into a game, you need to read things, not have people tell you whats happened in the game.
i dont care if you take your time and handle portions of the game, but if you just jump into whatever someone tells you to, it prevents us from seeing what strikes you as important in your catchup.
read the game.
i dont care if you take your time in doing so, but itll be easier for you to actually meaningfully participate in this game and will make you easier to read.

I don't like you as a player

<3

[Gorkington]

im curious.
has anyone ever seen a game of townvezok where hes posted like he has so far this game?
because i approximately still like this vote.

[Gorkington]

everyone on your wagon is scum, piss?
because jaqen stills seems really town.

annoying doesn't mean scum, guys. I don't see any scum motivation coming from pisskop.

the jerk in me wants to say that this makes pisskop more likely to be scum.


i do agree that it is kind of baffling that pisskop is being wagoned over vezok.
ofc im just saying this now for the towncred before he flips though.

[Gorkington]

he didnt ask the slot to read.
so.
i dont know what youre asking me because the second option is just you oversimplifying what i said.
so youre either dumb or scum.
take your pick.

[Gorkington]

^^ fuck it votes. totally the most town thing ever

youre not calling jaqen scum here?
because thats what it looks like.
nerd.

[Gorkington]

shocking that i would move on to other things when xtoxm doesnt respond to pressure and there are scummier people in the game.
absolutely shocking.
see, the main goal there, was that i knew it would just be easier to watch you get lynched.

[Gorkington]

i bet youre glad that youre pissing off one of the few people trying to lynch someone other than you pisskop.
pretty solid strategy.
you should probably try to push me as scum in an embarrassingly bad way on D2 if you somehow manage to convince people not to lynch you now.
for now, can we lynch vezok? or do i need to hold your fucking hand to catch scum?

[Gorkington]

it really isnt.

[Gorkington]

I shoot you, because I thought you were scum. You fucking investigated scum and said he was town. Of course I didn't think you were obvtown. Your ego is through the roof and I care about what you think of me as much as I care about the next drop of rain.

this is the towniest thing vezo has posted yet and its unshockingly not related to this game.

[Gorkington]

youre a baby.
i dont even want to defend you for townpoints if youre just going to be a pouty jerk.
talk at me about this bullshit thing youre caught up on wrt my xtoxm comments so you can accept that im town and sheep me on voting vezok instead of probably being all like "oh no gork wants me to join this mislynch".

[Gorkington]

in other news, for any fuck who votes for pisskop and doesnt comment on vezok:
if vezok flips scum later in this game im gonna come fucking get you.
with my for real fists.

[Gorkington]

thats great and all.
except hold on just give me a second..
VEZOK IS CLEARLY SCUM AND NOBODY WANTS TO VOTE HIM.

like christ.
ika lurked out. thats practically half a scumclaim.
vezok entered into this game with the least "vezok" approach ive ever seen.
this is the guy who shouts about someone being scum and calls people idiots for trying to convince him otherwise.
this isnt someone who buddies and asks for someone to tell him whos scummy.
this isnt someone who avoids a fight with someone.
townvezok would be calling me a moron right now.
fact that nobody wants to sheep this just makes it even fucking better, because it should be a comically easy wagon to get going and instead people are dogpiling on pisskop.
get your shit together whoever is fucking town this game and vote for vezok or tell me why im wrong.

[Gorkington]

ika lurking may be a scumtell but he flaked completely, so this may just be irl issues.? not lynching for this, lol.

thats why he replaced out of every game hes in right? owait..

[Gorkington]

i approximately feel like fresh's scumreads are so bad that they're actually slightly more likely to be coming from town.

[Gorkington]

hey flubb.
you defending lurker ika is weird.
really really really weird.
you should probably know why.
even if you dont know why i know why.
yknow?

[Gorkington]

welcome to townreadville flubb.
<3

[Gorkington]

He claimed to find a scum tell, but will only say it after a flip. Since then, pisskop has been challenged more(<<TIP being townie) than(me) twice(spiffeh) about(farside) this,(I think there's more qutotes btw, voided and others) until finally agreeing in post 1342 that town don't lose anything from him elaborating on that scumtell[also note: he called town 'they']; and YET, despite HIM SAYING THAT, he refuses to tell what the scumtell is, because, and I quote: "If you can't be convinced to lynch him today you won't be convinced with it."

piss can you please actually respond to this instead of being a dick.

[Gorkington]

-.-
just like.
explain why youre not talking about the scumtell.
you dont even have to explain the scumtell.
just why youre not talking about it.

[Gorkington]

<3
k theres half of mof's case gone for reasons that i can swallow.
other half is shit pisskop does as town in my experience.
so.
vezokwagontime?
pls?

[Gorkington]

Hold up, how does that work?

Pisskop shouldn't be able to say "I'm not going to reply because spite" and that suddenly magics away Shos's case. If anything, it strengthens it!

if you look at the dumb first reason and ignore the second good reason then yes, it does sound like it doesn't make sense doesn't it?
unfortunately theres this thing called "someone saying more than one thing". which basically means in this case at least, that pisskop gave a second reason that actually made sense to me for why he didnt want to talk about the scumtell. i also dont really believe that scumpisskop would just magic a scumtell out of thin air as scum. i dont think hes that careless.

[Gorkington]

Remind me, does Vezok know who you're an alt of?

Also, most sources indicate ika siteflaked, so I don't really see how that's a tell.

No.
And yes thats why hes still in every other game on the site.

Is the vezok case strictly meta? It better be because I see no other reason for me to vote for him.

I will not accept "ika replaced out" as a valid reason.

look at any other towngame from vezok.

I saw him play only in team mafia and it's not so different here. he was town.

lol.
no.
no it isnt "not so different".

[Gorkington]

never played with scumvezo.
this doesnt feel like townvezo at all though.

[Gorkington]

its kind of fascinating how you can be in the spotlight but act like youre on the sidelines.
if you think oversoul is scum, why wouldnt you try to push that?
are you compromise voting on pisskop?
if yes, why?
if not, whats scummy about pisskop?
all i got from your iso was this:

If you want, you can do that. I'm going to sleep and decided to read the new posts before going to bed.

I like how you already try to paint my actions as scum even if what I posted was not related to the game.

and wanting to sheep farside (who is voting for someone else now and has called pisskop town).
why didnt you vote for pisskop when you said the above quote if you thought he was trying to "paint your actions"?
you really dont strike me as the type to, as town, go "hmmm. let me think in a nuanced way for an entire night before i come back and basically nakedvote pisskop."

[Gorkington]

oooo.
an entire answer to one question.

[Gorkington]

you think me asking you questions is me trying to get you lynched?
ive made like one post where ive actually tried to illustrate why youre scummy because i want a wagon on you.
i havent even made a case yet.
dodge questions and continue sidelining the game if you want me to pick up the pace with writing a case.

[Gorkington]

never played with scumvezo.
this doesnt feel like townvezo at all though.

are you asking me to metadive him?
or what?

[Gorkington]

i demand an apology from you later if vezok flips scum.


are you nullreading him or what?

[Gorkington]

I would also love to see this game not exploded into 100 pages by day 1 please

and youre hoping to get there with a prof wagon?
:/

[Gorkington]

vote: fresh

[Gorkington]

i reserve the right to say i told you so for townpoints later if vezo flips scum though.
also a gold star.
or whatever the sexual equivalent would be in this game.

[Gorkington]

My Gork was more on gut.

Prof I changed my mind on.

Flubber, Titus, Saint all townreads for me.

so youre.. basically responding to not having reasoning for the reads on me and prof by giving more naked reads?

[Gorkington]

so what youre saying is.
pisskop is t-bone for you this game?

[Gorkington]

SWEET JESUS WHY CANT I JUST LEAVE YOU ALL ALONE FOR A SINGLE FUCKING (heh) WEEKEND AND COME BACK TO A GAMESTATE THAT ISN'T UTTERLY FUCKED JUST ONE GOD DAMN TIME

[Gorkington]

imp iso:
"maybbeeeee townleaning on pisskop"
"im not really sure what to think about vezo, might vote him"
"AHHHHHHHH WHAT IS THIS MADNESS WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING FOR VEZO AND PISSKOP THIS GAMESTATE IS FUCKED AHHH AHHHHH IM NOT EVEN VOTING FOR SOMEONE AHHHHH."
yeah.
i totally believe this outrage.

[Gorkington]

hydras that dont sign their posts are literally the worst.
youre also still not pushing anybody else so this outrage is still bullshit.

[Gorkington]

also im not even wearing pants.

[Gorkington]

youd better.
grrrrrrrrrrr.

[Gorkington]

i) its not always clear and i generally tend to struggle with discerning heads in a hydra if they dont have some kind of gimmick.
signing makes it a lot easier to follow trains of thought in iso.
so if you eternally want to make it harder to read you in hydra then keep on keeping on.

ii) it isnt hard for scum to sit around and posture about how bad wagons are while doing nothing.
i also havent see anything from you on why vezok is town.
so this is me waiting.
with bated breath.

[Gorkington]

was more trying to illustrate the lack of serious stance than a willingness to necessarily vote him.
like "i might vote him later if i think hes scummy" vs "i might vote him just for shits".

im pretty befaffled that nacho has been posting elsewhere on the site since he said he was going to bed.
>:(

[Gorkington]

i guess he did kind of imply he was just not going to post.
still blowing raspberries for a shitacular lack of content while trying to drive gamestate though.

[Gorkington]

*touches finger to nose*

And I also said something along the lines of people wanting him lynched probably isn't scum hunting...

what makes them worse than you voting vezok just for being a counterwagon to pisskop?

[Gorkington]

jaqen and prof might have to go into resort pile if they continue to muddle around all null-like.

[Gorkington]

I think a town member who really thought my vote was total bullshit would just not even try to defend themselves against me and focus on one of the more scummy players you feel is on the wagon.

the way youre talking here is as if every single town player should or would do this, which is a really really weird thing to push. why is scum more likely to do this? have you seen scum do what youre describing here?

vote: vezok

l-1.
claimtime.
i swear if anyone else says anything about this ill cut you.

[Gorkington]

hey idiots.

vote: titus

[Gorkington]

no but farside.
vote titus.
im not even going to play coy, i have a guilty on her.

[Gorkington]

i have a guilty on her.

[Gorkington]

are you deaf?
did someone have sex with your ears last night?

[Gorkington]

yes.
im not doing some dumb gambit.
there are too many players and i fucked up on vezok so i cant imagine anyone would have sheeped me given how good titus is at wiggling out of bullshit and everyone claiming that shes unreadable.

[Gorkington]

you really think ut was just like "lol lets make the game bastard just so i can put in a cop that doesnt work"?
okay.

[Gorkington]

titus has gotten away with making dumb jokes and poking at nothing all game.

We should be lynching TiP but we are not. I like the people on the Vezok wagon better.

no commentary from her on ika.
this is literally just a sheep.
this isnt fucking town titus.
get your head in the game farside.

[Gorkington]

eck.
okay.
sorry.
im being rude. ill try not to be rude at you farside because youre a player i like playing with.
i just hate being a pr and i actually feel pretty damn good about titus scumread right now.
please at least give titus iso a readover.

[Gorkington]

what is town about titus.
tell me all about it fresh.

p-edit: well youre right about the first part.
im of the opinion that tptg would make a game bastard to put in mechanics that they found interesting and not so much to bring back cop sanity as a big deal again.

[Gorkington]

yeah because im in so much fucking danger that i needed to fake a guilty.
you fucking suck at reading me jaqen.
what else is new.

[Gorkington]

wouldn't be a big shocker to come from you as you've done them before

wait what?

[Gorkington]

<3
i'll help you push something you want D3 if im still alive far.

[Gorkington]

The fact is you've done shittastic plays like that.

like?
if youre referring to my hider play in a large normal then youre stupid because i literally carried that game so hard with my gambit there.

[Gorkington]

also titus isnt historically easy to lynch.
also also the context of this is a very large game with people who are going to cry about bastardness making guilties unreliable.

[Gorkington]

jaqens just being arrogant.
hes probably town.
i especially doubt scum would kneejerk react the way he is right now to a cop guilty.

[Gorkington]

in other news,
flubb nightkill is making me lean saint town and is making me want to move spiffeh to nullpile.

Him saying "this isn't some stupid gambit", more than anything else, raises a huge red flag.

i hate fake guilties.
like.
a lot.

[Gorkington]

happy birthday jaqen pt1:

vezokpiraka (13) - Xtoxm, White Narcissus, Profgessor Emotion, Slobberknocker, Flubbernugget, Oversoul, farside22, pisskop, Titus, Gorkington, Jaqen Hghar, Saint, Anenien

Spoiler: vezo votes

I like jogger for town.

If you want a PL, let's do this.

VOTE: Idiot savant

The slot is lurking which is as sure of a scumtell as we'll get on D1.

Or wisdom unvoted >_>

Vote: vezok

Trust me this guy's a danger to town regardless of his actual alignment. And it's a guy i DONT want to ever play again with.

I change my mind about farside, I am pretty happy to call her town! Though, I still kinda want your answers to my questions/statements towards you

Also, Pisskop (I think it's pisskop?) I do not like your wagon so I am voting the counter wagon (vezok)

VOTE: vezok

pisskops reaction to wagon (Specifically last page) is town.

vezoks not acting like vezok, i agree with gorkington

VOTE: vezok

What is this list
Could do a Vezok wagon
VOTE: Vezo

I'm narrowing down my scum reads but vezo's start reads pretty scummy as I said. Don't see titus town here and I don't see the town read others have. The hydra that started the Tip wagon is pretty quiet for pushing the case and that makes me have them as a big fat question mark and oversoul is being lazy and I hate it.
Lots of null reads because of so many people reading like they don't give a shit and would rather troll then scum hunt.
At least I saw something with tip that rang town. Not married to that read but enough to stay off the wagon.

Vote: vezo

You know I'm stubborn and at least im pushing my scum reads. Unlike some flaccid types.

Because I can already tell he's going to be a fucking nuinsance if he lives.

VOTE: Vezok

We should be lynching TiP but we are not. I like the people on the Vezok wagon better.

like christ.
ika lurked out. thats practically half a scumclaim.
vezok entered into this game with the least "vezok" approach ive ever seen.
this is the guy who shouts about someone being scum and calls people idiots for trying to convince him otherwise.
this isnt someone who buddies and asks for someone to tell him whos scummy.
this isnt someone who avoids a fight with someone.
townvezok would be calling me a moron right now.
fact that nobody wants to sheep this just makes it even fucking better, because it should be a comically easy wagon to get going and instead people are dogpiling on pisskop.
get your shit together whoever is fucking town this game and vote for vezok or tell me why im wrong.

This one is preferring we WIFOM over him now instead, huh?

VOTE: vezokpiraka

Well. I still don't think Vezok is the best lynch, but it's not a bad idea after all.
Also, my top scumreads don't seem to be wagoned Today, so

Intent To Hammer.

[Gorkington]

happy birthday pt2:

pisskop (8) - masters of fart, Quaroath, dramonic, Jaqen Hghar, vezokpiraka, Fresh, Loranthaceae, Voidedmafia

Spoiler: pisskop votes

page 46's posts are re-earning the respect for the Imperium hydra for me.

I'm also currently overruling MS's vote (was it really on TIP? I wrote to him earlier all my reasoning for TIP town and he hasn't responded yet apart from saying he'll check it out soon) and totally going with farside. this is both a vote I was meaning to use AND it just comes sheeping my currently best townread (and erotic writer, ahem, mods) farside.

VOTE: PISSKOP

will make a good list of everything soon

VOTE: pisskop

This is totally NOT the town PK i literally just completed a game with, in tone or style.

Um. Yeah. Slice off the dick.

vote: pisskop
This looks fashionable.

A man is become frustrated. Aside from the aforementioned, today is devolving into a pissing match of going nowhere. It is feeling much and more like walking circles lost in the woods and asking each other "hey, haven't we already passed that rock?" A man is probably voting Pisskop and hoping for the best as that one's response to the little pressure he is receiving is quite poor. Cornered town are swinging and throwing rocks and shit at people. That one is much and more like 'c'mon guys, follow my deflection'. A man isn't liking all on that wagon, but if this is the multiball setup some are speculating (a man is agreeing with the size of this game argument) then a man is also not caring if varying degrees of scum reads are present since scum would have every reason to kill other scum

Or maybe a man is over thinking it. Eff it, Jaqen is ready for flips and info so this game is progressing.

VOTE: Pisskop

pisskop is getting wagoned because he is scum and I'm not. On that note.

vote pisskop

pisskop was my other debate. I felt as I was catching up that I was reading him as scum for the wrong reason. When he seemed uncooperative, that isn't a scum tell as I've learned. But when I do an ISO, the vibe I'm getting gives me scumfeels for different reasons more like we've got him and he's trying to 'town' his way out of being center of attention. I think presently its the best vote to have right now.

Vote: pisskop

VOTE: pisskop

Vote: Pisskop

I am loathe to join any wagon with Loran on it, but I'm not getting on the Vezok one.

[Gorkington]

the way he responded lined up to play I've seen out of him before.

firstthingisfirst titus is a lady.
secondthingissecond what about this is town vs null?

[Gorkington]

quar pings town on his pisskop vote to me.
the awkwardness and the reliance on recent meta strikes me as slightly genuine.
could be wrong but its how im leaning atm.
would also probably be a bad way to draw attention to self as scum. like.
"hey i was just scum in this one game, you player who was in this game, im gonna attack you and draw attention to that game".

xtoxm feels scummy.
loras probably scum.