Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

Bulbazoor · Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:19 pm

Best friend everyone!

Bulbazoor · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:37 pm

Exclude scum.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #33 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:37 am

VOTE: shazam
Its rvs

Bulbazoor · Post Post #44 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:01 am

My vote was random. I do not see what is wrong about that.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #61 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:59 am

In post 59, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Nvm, shazam change to bulba

He did change to me afterwards.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #171 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:23 pm

VOTE: mario
I think you should stop blabbering abour rvs. Mario seems a bit iffy. He defends people for basically pointless reasons.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #174 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:25 pm

I have played with Mario in marathon before. It may be a different deal than here, but I also read some of his newbie games.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #178 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:28 pm

I do not think you should rush it.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #180 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:30 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=62533

Bulbazoor · Post Post #185 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:15 pm

Read the link. It speaks for itself. Trying to be logical and hiding behind everyone else.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #188 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:42 pm

Its all I had played with him besides other games on the marathon.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #213 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:48 pm

It is basically a vote on a slot that I find the scummiest. Why dont you like my vote? I find hes trying to act logical like last game in the marathon. As town, I usually see him acting more funnier and sarcastic. In games I read where he was town.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #251 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:49 am

We have to let the replacement speak first.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #255 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:06 am

Stubbs- I need to see more from this slot. All they said was talk about how they scumread woody and townread on boon. Never explains the scumreads or the one on boon. Null.

Implosion is town. I like their posts so far and they seem to come from a town mindset. Same for KK.

Piss is null. Need to see more.

Mario is scum. I do not see play similar to his town game. I know its based mostly off of meta, but it is also a gutread. I do not see any point in the replaceout. Unless he had an issue in rl.

Boon is town. I like his posts so far.

Piss is null. Need to see more.

NE is null. He is also townlean because he makes some good points about gray.

Woody. Town because he was calmly answering the questions and not raging like a newbie would as scum. Mainly a gutread.

Shazam. Scumlean. Why did he react the way he did when I voted him for RVS? And then hes rushing the lynch before replacement even talks? I do not like that.

Dragon. Null.

Gray is scumlean. I thought the vote on me was votehopping and reads switching. Its a gutread.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #260 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:36 am

Hey. Care to give us your thoughts?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #265 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:12 am

A gutread is just a feeling. You may or may not be town, hence the lean.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #266 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:13 am

It seems to me like you were trying to drive off attention from another wagon.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #269 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:19 am

Null townlean.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #270 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:20 am

In post 238, Necessary Evil wrote:
In post 210, GrayFoxxxx wrote:You admit at one point your vote was investigative, and I understand that he needs to answer these questions himself. How confident are you in this vote right now?

I am pretty confident right now but a lot depends on what Mario does next. I don't expect him to answer my question. I'm not sure what he might do instead.

In post 237, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 235, Boonskiies wrote:Help me see things from your perspective.

If game ended today. I think I would find at least one scum in Bulb,implosion,and shazam

You say you're scumhunting the wagon but your list here doesn't match the wagon. For instance, why suspect implosion?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #272 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:21 am

I am not trying to frame anyone.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #274 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:23 am

Thats it.ci thought it was a good point because you suspect people I find to be town.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #278 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:28 am

Any thoughts on dragonspawn Gray?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #282 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:35 am

I meant that you were on implosiion but then suddenly you looked at me and said you did not like my vote without any reason.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #297 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:00 am

Why khan. Hes town imo....

Bulbazoor · Post Post #339 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:38 am

Can you explain your scumread on me?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #340 (isolation #25) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:38 am

Dont role claim unless you are at l-1

Bulbazoor · Post Post #347 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:42 am

VOTE: shazam

Bulbazoor · Post Post #354 (isolation #27) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:15 am

Shazam post 343 feels off.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #355 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:17 am

In post 343, Shazam wrote:
In post 321, TheDominator37 wrote:Oh and I forgot in post 133 shaman seems awful eager to vote Mario or foxx

Yes, I was. What is your point? I was already voting one of them, and later switched to the other. They're the two players whose posts I like the least so far in this game.

TheDominator37 wrote:Ok I'm pretty much caught up. You guys want to interrogate me? Want me to RC?

I don't care if you roleclaim. I doubt very much whether it would change anything.

Reeks of antitown mindset.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #362 (isolation #29) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:32 am

What if he was a power role? Scum would want anyone to be hammered before a claim. 348 is also bad, making you seem worried because of one scumread on you. Post 77 also seems like you are willing to sheep. Playing a game of " I like his reasoning so I am going to vote C" is not a good play. Your votes make it seem to me like you are playing a game Of Pick A Wagon Any Wagon, and your most recent post is another evidence of that to me, tbh.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #365 (isolation #30) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:50 am

But the overall not thinking on your own in that situation is bad.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #382 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:10 pm

I already answered that.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #383 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:11 pm

In post 362, Bulbazoor wrote:What if he was a power role? Scum would want anyone to be hammered before a claim. 348 is also bad, making you seem worried because of one scumread on you. Post 77 also seems like you are willing to sheep. Playing a game of " I like his reasoning so I am going to vote C" is not a good play. Your votes make it seem to me like you are playing a game Of Pick A Wagon Any Wagon, and your most recent post is another evidence of that to me, tbh.

My point on 348 is rebutted but 77 stands imo.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #393 (isolation #33) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:36 pm

Did you just sheep?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #500 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:18 pm

I like how he decided to call two of the people that scumread him confusing. If we scumread you, we have an opinion that can be discredited. You are not helping me do much with my read.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #507 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:37 pm

In post 503, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 500, Bulbazoor wrote:I like how he decided to call two of the people that scumread him confusing. If we scumread you, we have an opinion that can be discredited. You are not helping me do much with my read.

Should I care about your read? What is it exactly?

Shazam scum.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #509 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:44 pm

I meant shazam.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #519 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:25 pm

I use my onw type of logic.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #536 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:00 pm

You forgot that you scumread me.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #541 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:05 pm

I was talking to gray

Bulbazoor · Post Post #549 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:27 pm

In post 508, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 507, Bulbazoor wrote:wrote

So we all think each other is scum? What's your point? And what do you mean I'm not helping you with it?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #550 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:28 pm

Should have quoted it earlier.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #553 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:30 pm

I thought 508 was asking me who I scumread.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #556 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:32 pm

You are misunderstanding things. I was asking gray to comeon and tell me if he still scumreads me.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #557 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:32 pm

I scumread shazam is what that means.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #560 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:34 pm

That whole thing was me scumreading shazam.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #563 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:36 pm

You were asking me about my reads so I gave you my scumread.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #564 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:38 pm

Since shaz does not understand let me explain. Gray was asking me about people scumreading each other and what my read was. He said I was not belping and he seems to not be elaboratjng more on why I am scum. He still seems to have forgotten his vote on me.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #566 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:42 pm

I get that too often. That happens when I am town. As scum, people read me town easily. Meta is not a useful tool, so I should not be bringing that in.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #568 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:49 pm

I wanted you to come and explain your read on me. Is there anything else other than me being confuskng? Or are you pushing an easy Wagon mislynch on me?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #696 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:42 am

I admit. It was to shaz because I thought he scumread me. But I still wanted to get some input and reaction from gray.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #700 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:03 am

Trying to get a reacton is antitown?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #760 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:17 pm

Can you explain. Dom?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #761 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:19 pm

I s till want shazam.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #762 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:20 pm

VOTE: FA
I need to see more from this.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #768 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:03 pm

Ill keepy eyes on FA...

Bulbazoor · Post Post #870 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:45 pm

I was trying to get the adequate reaction out of gray at the same time.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #872 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:53 pm

I am sorry I am being hard to understand.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #873 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:54 pm

It was meant to shaz but I switched it to you so I can get one reaction bit from you to either improve the read or destruct it.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #891 (isolation #59) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:04 am

Anna is town to me.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #919 (isolation #60) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:58 am

In post 905, Annarchy wrote:I feel like my reads really suck in this game

I've been looking at a double-ISO between Shazam and Bulba. and while Bulba would definitely do this as town, I'm starting to convince myself it's not impossible for him to do this as scum. what really gets me is that Bulba has mostly been lurking ever since he admitted to lying, which makes me feel like he could be trying to blow the whole thing off and hope it gets passed up later. he's stopped trying to look for scum.
the other option I would consider as of now is FA, but I want more from him. if he's scum we can get more telling info out of him tomorrow, while if he's town we have more time to figure that out.

meanwhile, I don't think I'm going to be any less confused about Bulba over time. and I don't feel like there's much more to gain from today.
VOTE: Bulba

I am lurking because I need to take time to read this game.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #920 (isolation #61) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:59 am

In post 893, Kublai Khan wrote:Okay. I'm all caught up.

Town: WoodyWoodpecker, Boonskiies, GrayFoxxxx, Shazam
Weaktown: TheDominator37, implosion
Weakscum: Annarchy, Bulbazoor, spice1209
Scum: FA_Q2, pisskop, dragonspawn

The WoodyWoodpecker/Boonskiies slapfight is a town on town squabble. GrayFoxxxx towntold pretty hard in the first half of the game. Shazam gave a strong town-tell as well.

I was never big on the MarioManiac4 wagon (I understand the reasons, but they aren't as strong as they are made out to be). TheDominator37 has been fairly townish, though a little milquetoast.

implosion is in the weak town because of a weird vibe that keeps him from being a full town read. Mostly it's the repeated motif where he has to constantly point out "scum-Khan could do that" which is weird that I'm the only one that gets this treatment. I had to look up if we had any game history and we've only ever been in one game together and I was town. If he could give me the reasoning behind this specific treatment I'd appreciate it, otherwise it feels a little like a "smear/discredit the townie" tactic.

The Annarchy weakscum read comes mostly from Necessary Evil. Necessary Evil's posts were lackluster and his read reasonings were vague. Though it could just be unfocused town. Annarchy has a totally different style, which is great, but I don't agree with many of her conclusions, which is bad.

Bulbazoor is a wildcard at the moment. His weird cadence/formatting, the backtrack, the (possible?) responding to old posts.. I can't even tell if english is his first language.

spicer1209 is in the hole that StubbsKVM dug at the moment. StubbsKVM was a weak scumread. And spice1209 is a non-read. So, it's meh/scum.

pisskop could be scum? I dunno? Maybe? He doesn't seem to care to find scum or lynch them. He's the emo kid of this game. He just wants to be left alone.

FA_Q2's Post 724 is the scummiest post I've ever read. It's one thing to hate a 10 page squabble. But finding both participants individually scummy (where if one turns up town, the other must be scum) is ridiculous.

dragonspawn feels like textbook scum coasting. He's not leading any wagons. He's not pushing or making waves. Here's a quick experiment. Without looking at the votecount, someone tell me who dragonspawn is voting for and why.

Spoiler: answer
It's implosion. And best I can figure it's because he's not "impressed" by him.

VOTE: dragonspawn

You make a good point about dragon. But I still do not know what to make overall.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #921 (isolation #62) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:01 am

I find anna shift to be questionable.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #922 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:04 am

Anna, if FA is scum, why keep him around?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #925 (isolation #64) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:22 am

I am kind of finding the way anna 180s her read on me. At first, she claims that I am a townread. Weak, but a read as town. Then, she claims that if FA is scum, wshe wants to keep him for more. That was the questionable part for me and I am wondering why she would want to keep someone if they are the scum? Fa latest post also shows that he is willing to join the wagon that is on me and that I have posted nothing. He was not here to read my posts I made right now. Back to anna...

Anna is being questionable to me right now as a player because I can barely understand how they quickly went from townreading me to " convincing myself that he can do it as scum" when that was already the obvious thing. How did she not notice it? And why did she claim meta as fast as she could when asked? For some reason, I am starting to see anna and FA as a possible scum team up. Anna also claimed that I stopped scumhunting. That is a lie and it is also a factor on my lessened townread on her.

Everything anna has done is, from my perspective, questinonable.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #928 (isolation #65) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:05 am

I feel like I am about to be mislynched.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #929 (isolation #66) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:12 am

The players
[01] Bulbazoor
[02] dragonspawn
[03] GrayFoxxxx
[04] FA_Q2
[05] implosion
[06] Boonskiies
[07] spicer1209 < Necessary Evil
[08] Shazam
[09] pisskop
[10] Annarchy < StubbsKVM
[11] TheDominator37 < MarioManiac4
[12] Kublai Khan
[13] WoodyWoodpecker

Arranged from town to scum
Bulbazoor
Kublai
Boon
Woody
Implosion
Dragon
Anna
Piss
Dom
Gray
Spicer
Shazam
FA

Bulbazoor · Post Post #932 (isolation #67) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:50 am

Your read of ke being scum is wrong. I was attempting to scumhunt with my vote on fA and you know it.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #935 (isolation #68) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:24 am

Bulbazoor · Post Post #940 (isolation #69) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:55 pm

Dom is feeling reaaally fake to me right now. He has not even posted in a long time, and calls me scum for a response?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #949 (isolation #70) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:18 am

Piss, why are you so pushy on my wagon? It is almost like you are the scum trying to drive my wagon?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #952 (isolation #71) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:40 am

Why would you out me!!!! Why the hell? I was the town watcher. That is why I specifcally said that I will be keeping eyes on FA.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #953 (isolation #72) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:40 am

I keep insisting on the lynch of who I think is scum and no one listens to me.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #956 (isolation #73) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:07 am

I can watch one person every night and see who, if anyone visited them.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #958 (isolation #74) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:22 am

I did not look at Nything. It states it in my role pm.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #962 (isolation #75) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:29 am

Again,anna with he switch on me. What caused the switch?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #964 (isolation #76) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:30 am

I mean why doyou not believe me?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #966 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:32 am

Posting my reads is scrambling?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #971 (isolation #78) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:38 am

Ehh. I wont watch fa. I will watch the towniest player.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #975 (isolation #79) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:44 am

Why would you want to lynch a claimed3d watcher. After tgose horrible reasons you gave. Scum are now probably going to keep me alive because you are giving the idea for them to frame me.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #976 (isolation #80) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:44 am

And I am also one shot. Wo I am useless after that. Just checked.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #977 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:46 am

So I better pick a good person to watch.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #982 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:49 am

It looks stupid but I am.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #984 (isolation #83) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:51 am

I checked my role pm.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #988 (isolation #84) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:55 am

Lies. I checked my role pm.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #990 (isolation #85) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:01 am

This is idiocy. It was a mistake.!! NOW IF YOU EXCUSE ME LYNCH PISS TOMORROW IDIOTS! AND DO NOT MAKE ME WATCH YOU TONIGHT.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #991 (isolation #86) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:02 am

VOTE: BULBAZOOR
PROMISE ME TO GET CAUGHT!

Bulbazoor · Post Post #992 (isolation #87) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:03 am

ALSO LYNCH ANNA AND SHAZAM AND DOM!

Bulbazoor · Post Post #993 (isolation #88) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:03 am

AND FA

Bulbazoor · Post Post #995 (isolation #89) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:15 am

Nobody understands me dude. Just lynch me!

Bulbazoor · Post Post #996 (isolation #90) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:16 am

Bulbazoor · Post Post #997 (isolation #91) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:16 am

UNVOTE:

Bulbazoor · Post Post #999 (isolation #92) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:19 am

Where the hell did I Slip!

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1000 (isolation #93) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:21 am

VOTE: FA
Still think this dude is scum tbh. Nothing helps reshape my view on him.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1002 (isolation #94) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:24 am

VOTE: BULBAZOOR
I WOULD RATHER END THE DAY WITH A LYNCH THAN A NO LYNCH! PLEASE LYNCH ANNA TOMORROW. AFTER ALL SHE CAME UP WITH A STUPID CASE ON ME!

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1006 (isolation #95) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:41 am

UNVOTE:

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1007 (isolation #96) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:42 am

WELL THEN WHAT CAN U SAY?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1008 (isolation #97) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:42 am

Anna is so confusing to even read because of their flip flops.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1009 (isolation #98) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:45 am

VOTE: FA

Bulbazoor · Post Post #1013 (isolation #99) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:53 am

Anna keeps saying that I am scum then town.

Bulbazoor · Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:05 am

Hammer me but lynch yourself tomorrow.

Bulbazoor · Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:06 am

VOTE: BULBAZOOR

Bulbazoor · Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:10 am

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE Hppy then....

Bulbazoor · Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:10 am

Tie it harder...

Bulbazoor · Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:13 am

Dom do your best.

Bulbazoor · Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:13 am

After all you helpex.me get lynched!

Bulbazoor · Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:41 am

Gg we tried.