Mini 1732 - Super Smash Bros. Project M(afia) - D7!

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so who are nana and why/how are you in this game

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Wassup Lion.

Also the Nana account was created a day after vonflare in-ed in the queue to mod this game, and this is the only topic it has posted in. Is it supposed to be like a CPU or something?

It's also a 14th player in a mini so i'm thinking it's a mod alt, and we probably have to do something with it...initial thought is that lynching is unlikely the way to go.

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Wow, this game has bad form. No one talking about my "every VT should cliam" claim? For shame!

On this topic, does anyone have a triforce? This a highly important question.

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Wow, this game has bad form. No one talking about my "every VT should cliam" claim? For shame!

On this topic, does anyone have a triforce? This a highly important question.

i don't have one, but I can give one to someone.

I feel like you're trolling, but could elaborate on this?

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could you*

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i believe that

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Lickety, how is 2 votes a BW when it takes 8 to lynch and a solid number of players haven't even posted yet?

This is a pretty vapid question.

VOTE: Lion

P-edit: Lickety, I like what you're doing but I feel like smiffle is the towniest of the voters on you.

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This is a pretty vapid question.

Do you agree with him that one of {smiffle, Tails, Metal Sonic} is scum? Should he be at all worried about their votes on him at this point?

Not necessarily but it's possible. He created a situation where it was easy to vote him. I actually don't like pretty much any of Sonic's posting so far.

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And where is smiffle exactly?

what do people think of day chat for Scum here?

Pretty sure they have it.

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% is damage. Sounds like 2% for death (ie everyone is 1-shot bp). I think this is a way of including a lot of killing roles without making the game ridiculous. I'm expecting scum can still one shot with their NK, though.

OHKO = one hit knock out

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i don't really like all the easy townreads on all alone.

qft

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I don't care to answer stupid questions.

I've been pretty underwhelmed by your start Lion, with a couple of your posts pinging me and i'm expecting better from you if you're town.

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Well you're just gonna have to wait for me to make my reads then. I don't tend to throw around a

bunch of meaningless reads that I'm likely to change early on D1

, especially when we have players that haven't even posted yet.

I don't get why you wouldn't help me read you, but whatever.

Why not? This is how the game gets rolling. We've got 11 pages which is plenty to start developing reads. There will always be lurkers.

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Xtomx, is this a stupid question?

Nah, but do you scumread Lion? Sounds like it to me.

He's an early scumlean, yes

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It's also that I know he's capable of better than this so him starting awkwardly like he has is concerning.

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It's also that I know he's capable of better than this so him starting awkwardly like he has is concerning.

So it's one part meta, one part gut, and one part he's been popping into the thread to say some stuff then leaving?

That's not really it.

Yes part meta, he's made a few bad posts, and it's the best i've seen so far to go on. This ultimately more of a 'do stuff' push, but if stuff doesn't transpire i'm going to assume this is his scumgame.

I'm not loving what Tails is doing, i'm not townreading Sonic but other than that i'm basically town reading/leaning the significant posters thus far.

P-edit: smiffle, #282 is probably Lions best post of the game so far, no problems with that one.

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Wait, so Xtom, you want him to do more, but he defends himself saying that doing less is how he usually plays, but you're fine with this?

What I specifically liked is his confidence that he's going to appear more town later on.

And by saying you have no problems with his post, does that mean you agree with a majority of the reads on it?

Absolutely not.

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ASP in my experience is a chronic lurker. As ever i'm not going to particularly want him kept around if he continues to do nothing, but at the same time him doing nothing isn't scum indicative, unfortunately.

Nana is a still a mod alt and I support poking at it.

Nana

, do you use your vote?

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Once.

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I would follow this up by asking for some reads, but I can tell you need some time to be certain, just like GL.

I gave where i'm at in #292. My primary townreads are LQ and Dav, if that interests you.

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Can't talk about it. Feel free to find it for yourself.

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Don't be dense.

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couldn't answer lol. what are you on about.

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wrong.

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Your posts were quite interesting though; i'm townreading you now. What's your policy on survivors?

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mhm

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That's basically how I feel about LQ too.

But why Dav? I think his easy response to my triforce request was very town in nature. If he was scum, there was no way he could have known that was safe to claim.

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And I agree his response to your triforce request is easy, but I don't think it's serious. If he were scum and he started getting in trouble for it, I think he could easily spin it like he was just joking around.

1) I feel his claim was legit
2) This only applies if he actually does backtrack on it which he has not done
3) Planning to backtrack seems strictly inferior to simply keeping it hidden

If there's scum between them, it's probably the one who has chosen to keep it hidden, assuming it exists.

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Is it possible we're in a multiball?

really? on d1? why would you even hunt with associatives today

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actually VOTE: wanderer that was an all round shitty post and she's not really done anything townie.

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well yeah but that's not a defense. do stuff to get townread, if you're town.

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they dont ping me. smiffle is a fairly solid townread for me tbh.

im looking between lion/tails/wander + any of the lurkers at this point

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multiball actually isn't impossible on further thought but its still not something we should be discussing today

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Lion.

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xtoxm changing his mind on multiball after smiffle's post makes me feel uncomfortable.

why?

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:/

not planning to hard defend lq here in case im wrong. but i doubt he's scum, i hate lynching the most active player on d1 as a general rule, dont plan on being involved. so yeah do this if you want, but, on your own.

does no one else find wanders recent posts scummy?

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between the 4 lurkers i kinda think gendas posts arent that bad? i'd be ok wagoning any of them, though

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get some interest and i'll join. i still like my wander push personally

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i missed the claim. hes very likely town due to that.

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i missed the claim. hes very likely town due to that.

I know, and its a PL if the claim is bogus right?

uh what? why are you even saying this?

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???

Do you have an actual question here?

can you like stop talking about vig kills

why are you still voting genda? do you disbelieve the miller claim?

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its definitely a bastard game regardless because the mod said so. its a role ive encountered before and given he seems to be a newbie, and how utterly ridiculous it would be to fakeclaim that, i think we can be pretty sure the claim is real. having that modifier as scum is possible but town seems more likely.

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its definitely a bastard game regardless because the mod said so. its a role ive encountered before and given he seems to be a newbie, and how utterly ridiculous it would be to fakeclaim that, i think we can be pretty sure the claim is real. having that modifier as scum is possible but town seems more likely.

Well at some point we're going to have to test the validity of the claim. This much is certain. I'm looking for a fantastic result on a dead player. I mean, I just can't see this role being completely and utterly negative town utility. There has to be something in the role that makes up for such a downside to town here.

But w/e, I will

UNVOTE: at this time.

not necessarily. may be present simply to weaken the power of another role.

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a quarter of the playerlist is lurking hard though

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If Mario flips scum we have 3 confirmed Town. Nana, Dav and Myself.

Why not include Tails here? Assuming Mario flips scum, do you think scum!Tails would jump off an LQ wagon to go onto his scumbuddy Mario's, when a Mario wagon hadn't even started yet?

bad post

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mainly the latter

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If you have bad gut feels from xtoxm: vote him wit me. Let's get a wagon and a claim

sure idc

ganondorf

triforce daycop

checked sonic and hes a triforce

this may mean hes scum, though my role pm says nothing about triforce relating to alignment, and im a triforce myself

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i expect a nana lynch to achieve nothing more than a no lynch

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my jump in?

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im not allowed to highlight something i find scummy?

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Xt, do you sense a nervousness in GL right now like I do?

he doesnt feel nervous at all

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VOTE: wander

other thought is link/zelda (dav/sonic) are a 2p scum team if multiball but i dont think dav would have claimed so willingly if so

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I'm not Link?

Neutral modified post-trapper serial killer 3-shot reflexive roleblocker

Bro wtf does this even mean

i was assuming you would be either link or zelda due to triforce

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Actually, potentially up to 5 Triforce flavours, looking at Project M. Link, Toon Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf.

hm good point, most of my exp is from melee where that is no toon link and zelda and sheik are the same person

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and this is even less helpful for me in regard to what the hell my ability means

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i am a neutral survivor. ive approached the game in a town way and have every intention of continuing to do so.

lynch me if you want

/shrug

my ability is real and still means something, presumably.

bastard game yeah but. making someone a survivor and then telling someone else they are not town. what is the point. at least give me a safeclaim if ur gonna do that shit

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just lynch me tbh

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im actually not scum. like i said

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yeah but thats just setting me up for an autoloss. i even asked for a safeclaim and was told ganondorf was safe to claim so lol.

turbolynch me pls

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just dont kid yourselves into thinking this is a scum lynch

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survivor is a terrible role at the best of times, tried to have some fun with it by scumhunting but this seriously beyond dumb lol.

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given revelations i have zero chance of ever meeting my win con and id honestly rather exit the game sooner than later at this point LQ but i appreciate the sentiment

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Why don't we just use abilities on XT?

they will probably fail given my role

i can be lynched tho

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i am a neutral survivor. ive approached the game in a town way and have every intention of continuing to do so.

lynch me if you want

/shrug

my ability is real and still means something, presumably.

bastard game yeah but. making someone a survivor and then telling someone else they are not town. what is the point. at least give me a safeclaim if ur gonna do that shit

just lynch me tbh

This AtE really makes me want to lynch you. Also because we're already at 30+ pages I really don't feel like looking for *actual scum* over a claimed survivor who is a PL anyway.

Can we get a vc?

do you really feel the need to justify yourself before voting claimed survivor

you are so scum

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All but like 3-4.

yeah

so as you can see, town tend to go around in circles and mislynch day 1 quite often


lynching non-town today is a correct choice, yet doesn't mean we lose a townie, and allows us to come back tomorrow with probably tasty results


lynching claimed scum is always the right move

stop calling me scum fuckboi

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Dang this might be one of those epic, super duper wins for Town. Yay! I've always wanted one of those!

maybe. town probs have a lot of power given presence of 2(+) neutrals.

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appreciate it sonic

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he is not among my townreads.

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not going to self vote as it is the very definition of playing anti win con here but please make this happen asap <3

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he made me a survivor, told me my flavour was safe to claim, and told someone else my flavour is not town.

im allowed to be annoyed about that.

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he explicitly told me ganondorf was safe to claim

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yeah, no more vonflare games for me

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because im not town

why are you still not voting me?

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scum might not have safeclaims either btw so be careful with massclaim

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yeah but now scum will know that their own flavours are potentially unsafe, and if they wait til last they can pick someone not present

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you know seeing as ssb has tons of characters and we only have 14 ppl in the game

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if sonic/others who have such info had kept quiet and just pushed for a massclaim then yes it would likely have broken the game

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rechecked my pms and it's not so explicit as i thought, but he made it sound like what i had was ok to claim.

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i asked this back when i got my role, because i was hoping to, you know, not claim as survivor seeing as it's generally an autolynch. he did not specifically say that, he simply didn't give me one and the way he responded to my question made me think it was ok.

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Wanderer-nl - scum
Firebringer - town
A Simple Plan - null
Tails - nullscum
smiffle - town
All Alone - null
GuiltyLion - maybe scum
Gendaberry - town
Davsto - town
Metal Sonic - town
LicketyQuickety - town
Nana - ignore

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his scumgame is more awkward than this in my experience

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Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:50 am

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and that is GMT

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Xt, if you are somehow a Town Survivor now's the time to speak up about that.

I've said i'll play as town. My alignment is neutral.

I can't really object to being lynched today because being rid of me is a pretty good game state for town and probably leaves you 3v7 in a very juiced up town.

I see people entertaining this idea of leaving me alive for a few days and then lynching me which is really bad posting. If you want me to work with you it has to go both ways. I am a triforce daycop so I can help find Link. Scum probably do want me dead.

Either lynch me now today or help me fulfill my wincon. Like ika's saying, having this argument about me for multiple days will be hugely detrimental to town. I feel it's already stalled the productive discussion we were having today.

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3v8 i mean.

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zzz.

This is a good point. Tails NK is pretty baffling to me.

he was the reason i wasn't yesterdays lynch. killing him enables my lynch. should be pretty clear i am what i say i am.

i am (not really) any better than another mislynch at this point.

going to daycop lion probably

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I want Xtoxm to give us Link.

well you're not acting like it. who do you want checked?

atm im very close to checking you.

you're doing a lot to get me killed. link fucking wants me dead ASAP.

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in other news, grib is town, if that wasn't obvious

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and lion.

you suggesting i'd have played d1 as i did as fucking group scum. AND killed the primary advocate of not lynching me.

then you are either being really bad or really scummy.

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because im a triforce daycop and ikaslot said link is scum

and anyone left who hasn't claimed come out about having a triforce (as me and dav did at game start)

are clearly scum for hiding it

we assume link has a triforce but i think thats a very safe assumption

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im guessing he gains 'points' towards another dayvig or some other ability. i saw a mechanic like that in another game, anyway.

why is it so important for you to know?