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[Keyser Söze]

Going to look at BlueBloodedToffee's ISO later. 116 posts...

[Meanmelter]

I can agree with that statement, though I think that leaves room for scum to have a claim/counter-claim. I do wonder how many town masons there might be.

I doubt scum would counter-claim because it would instantly line themselves up for the lynch/investigation. Also, I have no doubt the masons have hinted/hidden their connection within the thread.

Hm, I suppose I see what you are saying. I feel this would be a possible option, however if there are 3 scum players and not two. It could result in the town mason getting lynched first. Which would buy them another day. But if there is only two then that would be a pretty bad claim.

I do not understand. Are you questioning my inactivity?

Yes, here is my concern: looking back at that wagon, I feel like that was a crucial time for the Haschel Cedricson wagon to gain momentum.

You said you'd support the Haschel Cedricson wagon (but then don't make any further D2 posts)

Haschel Cedricson - Keyser Söze, mykonian [L-4]

BlueBloodedToffee votes Haschel Cedricson (L-3).
Dwlee99's votes Haschel Cedricson (L-2).

[I feel like scum would have more likely lurked at this stage to ensure a no lynch/counter lynch than a lynch on their scum partner].

herrcombs votes Haschel Cedricson (L-1).
Dierfire votes Haschel Cedricson (hammer).

Would you vote for either Haschel or Dier, meanmelter?

If I had to pick? Haschel. I'm really disliking his activity and I am not finding it townie tbh.

I wasn't trying to make it sound like I was going to vote for Haschel. If I was going to vote for Haschel I might as well have voted for Lale when her wagon was picking up.

I tried to make it clear that if we weren't lynching Garmr I'm not going to be apart of it.

If you want to accuse me of lurking around Haschel's wagon I can understand where you are coming from. However I feel a scum player would have claimed intent to hammer or even put him at L-1 to seem less scummy, or even already be on that wagon.

I am voting for you because you are clearly the most scummy player this whole game and I have no intention on changing my vote anytime soon. You might think that now that there was a wagon on Pista and now you're off the hook, but I refuse to let that be the case.

This is for the underlined part above.

[Garmr]

^scums even trying to use me as a excuse not to lynch there scum buddy.

[Meanmelter]

^scums even trying to use me as a excuse not to lynch there scum buddy.

[Garmr]

[A Simple Plan]

Vote Count 3.1

2

Garmr - mykonian, Meanmelter [L-3]

1

Hieirama - Dierfire [L-4]

1

Meanmelter - Garmr [L-4]

Not Voting -

Dwlee99, herrcombs, Hieirama, Lalendra, Keyser Söze

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline - (expired on 2015-11-04 08:00:00)

[mykonian]

ok, as it looks now it'll probably be this weekend that I really dive in.

One consideration that I did have during that skim I feel should be posted now.

Suppose you are haschel. Day one, you play your game. You don't get in trouble. N1 you look at your play and it really doesn't look all that good, towards the end of the day there's some suspicion and indeed you have been a terrible lurk. You are a smart kid, do you think you'll make it to lylo? That'll be hard. So comes the second question, how do you set up your buddies to win the game for you?

I'd be very surprised if haschel voted for a lynch on a buddy that might have gone through, otoh, I'd expect him to distance if he saw the opportunity. Day 1 this is obvious different, he may have thought a good lynch could set him up there.

[Dwlee99]

So who would that be, dier?
I call IIoA.

[Hieirama]

@Dier

Common Townreads; Dwlee, Herr, Keyser.
It unsettles me that it seems like scum haven't tried targeting them yet.

p.s. not liking how anti-Garmr Meanmelter is being

[herrcombs]

I'd like to jump in on this back and forth between Dier and Hiei --

these questions are for you, Hieirama:

I think they're both Town and I think we've got scum hiding in some common townreads.
The NK makes me more suspicious of this, actually.

Common Townreads; Dwlee, Herr, Keyser.
It unsettles me that it seems like scum haven't tried targeting them yet.

Which of those common townreads (between Dwlee, myself, and Keyser) do you think is/are scum? Do you have any reasons aside from the idea that "scum haven't tried targeting them yet?" And by targeting, do you mean targeting for NKs, or putting pressure on them during the day?

p.s. not liking how anti-Garmr Meanmelter is being

What makes you believe that it is more likely scum!Meanmelter trying to get town!Garmr lynched, rather than a town!Meanmelter following a strong scumread? Do you think Meanmelter is scumreading Garmr with substance, and if so, do you disagree with his reasoning?

[Garmr]

@Dier

Common Townreads; Dwlee, Herr, Keyser.
It unsettles me that it seems like scum haven't tried targeting them yet.

p.s. not liking how anti-Garmr Meanmelter is being

Then vote mean melter.

[Garmr]

I'd like to jump in on this back and forth between Dier and Hiei --

these questions are for you, Hieirama:

I think they're both Town and I think we've got scum hiding in some common townreads.
The NK makes me more suspicious of this, actually.

Common Townreads; Dwlee, Herr, Keyser.
It unsettles me that it seems like scum haven't tried targeting them yet.

Which of those common townreads (between Dwlee, myself, and Keyser) do you think is/are scum? Do you have any reasons aside from the idea that "scum haven't tried targeting them yet?" And by targeting, do you mean targeting for NKs, or putting pressure on them during the day?

p.s. not liking how anti-Garmr Meanmelter is being

What makes you believe that it is more likely scum!Meanmelter trying to get town!Garmr lynched, rather than a town!Meanmelter following a strong scumread? Do you think Meanmelter is scumreading Garmr with substance, and if so, do you disagree with his reasoning?

I don't think your even reading mean melters content there's a large number of misreps ect.

[herrcombs]

Oh, I've read his posts, and I have my own opinions. I need to hear Hieirama's opinions though. This is important to me. I'd appreciate if you didn't interfere.

[Dwlee99]

ok, as it looks now it'll probably be this weekend that I really dive in.

One consideration that I did have during that skim I feel should be posted now.

Suppose you are haschel. Day one, you play your game. You don't get in trouble. N1 you look at your play and it really doesn't look all that good, towards the end of the day there's some suspicion and indeed you have been a terrible lurk. You are a smart kid, do you think you'll make it to lylo? That'll be hard. So comes the second question, how do you set up your buddies to win the game for you?

I'd be very surprised if haschel voted for a lynch on a buddy that might have gone through, otoh, I'd expect him to distance if he saw the opportunity. Day 1 this is obvious different, he may have thought a good lynch could set him up there.

So who would that be, dier?
I call IIoA.

Idk why I said dier, this was directed to mykonian. Phone reading OP.

Reading through BBT's ISO I see tons of mason tells between me and him which makes me laugh cause I'm not a mason.

[Garmr]

So you can see where i got the idea from dwlee?

[Dwlee99]

Yea, I see where it's coming from. It's extremely coincidental. Mason tells like that combined with the fact he was a mason.

[Garmr]

Do you think he was doing on purpose since he had a strong town read on you to give you some protection incase something happened. Actually that doesn't really matter now just something I should ask blue after the game.

[Dwlee99]

I don't understand why you would drop mason tells onto someone that wasn't mason, doesn't really make much sense, imo. I'm pretty sure it's just a strong town read.

[Garmr]

I had a townie confirm a scum member as a mason partner before which i was pretty admanet about being scum i rage quited and it turned out i was right and the person was scum.

[Dwlee99]

How did a townie confirm a scum member as a mason without playing against their win con..? We're getting off topic anyway. lol

[Garmr]

She said straight up that this is my mason buddy and that there were 3 masons when there was only 2. Her real mason partner died. My case was actually decent through people weren't listening to me because she was hard defending him and confirmed town will always have more power in a conversation.

[Lalendra]

Oh okay, no day start pm. Guess I'll be catching up on this later

[mykonian]

ok, as it looks now it'll probably be this weekend that I really dive in.

One consideration that I did have during that skim I feel should be posted now.

Suppose you are haschel. Day one, you play your game. You don't get in trouble. N1 you look at your play and it really doesn't look all that good, towards the end of the day there's some suspicion and indeed you have been a terrible lurk. You are a smart kid, do you think you'll make it to lylo? That'll be hard. So comes the second question, how do you set up your buddies to win the game for you?

I'd be very surprised if haschel voted for a lynch on a buddy that might have gone through, otoh, I'd expect him to distance if he saw the opportunity. Day 1 this is obvious different, he may have thought a good lynch could set him up there.

So who would that be, dier?
I call IIoA.

Idk why I said dier, this was directed to mykonian. Phone reading OP.

Yeah, I got that.

I don't agree with it though, it's clearly analysis on Haschel's play. I haven't connected the dots and overlooked the big picture, simply don't feel like putting that amount of work in before the weekend. But you are invited to either disagree with my view on haschels play or apply it to his posts if you don't feel like waiting.

[Dwlee99]

Dier is just saying "haschel would do this with his buddies but doesn't say who that applies to.

[Dierfire]

Phone post (I gracefully and wisely locked myself out of my apartment):

@DWL

What? Are you talking to me, about me, or neither?