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[Aneninen]

VOTE: Cavane

I've rolled a d12, it's shown 12. Therefore, he's scum. Q.E.D.

[Aneninen]

Because I don't know how to pronounce your name.

Something like aa-ne-

nee

-nynn ^_^

I'm a Desperado, if I die he is confirmed town.

If you're not faking your random shot is a terrible idea. If you happen to hit a town-PR, you'll force him to claim. So, it would be best not to shoot until you find a viable target.

Good point
VOTE: Bacde

This vote change was too quick.

Hmmmm
VOTE: Barcode
He's already playing differently than the one game I played with him and I wanna know why. Can't really base meta off of one game but I'm curious where this is headed.

Hmmm... I've checked your later posts and this might be true.

Whoops, Kling not in this game, its

Duppin

lol

Is Duppin = Klingonette?

Besides not claiming a quicktopic I don't really understand how my play is significantly different

Eeiiaao. This gave me many scumvibes.

[Aneninen]

Oh shit I didn't see it said 3:1:9. I've never even played this format before. Can anyone tell me how this usually changes the game?

Prepare for a hard run. Town may be packed with PRs. The SK might be Bulletproof or something nasty. The Mafia might have something against the SK. But that's sheer guessing.

I want to see what Dupoin thinks.

Hm, I think it is a bit too early to call it out, but I do agree that it does seem a bit different.
His day 1 was pretty weird in the last game (very aggro), but it is possible he would've done the same thing this game if he wasn't called out so early.
But overall yes, his play does seem different, not entirely sure it is a scumtell though.

What's interesting to me Banana is how you are going about trying to read me (eg, you are going about it very poorly)
You say I'm acting different this game, which I denied
You just accept me denying what you asserted? Why not try to explain your read somehow or confront me with evidence of how I am being different?

You said you have no scum reads at the moment, but I feel like you are implying Banana is scummy here. Is this the case?

I can see a world Bacde's scum in and Duppin is his partner. The first part of this post sounds like a scum talking to his buddy while the next one looks like giving some advice.

If

Bacde is scum.

If

there's no Daytalk. Too many assumptions.

Liger_Zero may be town if at least one of the very active players is scum. If not, he might be scum.

Bacde may be a nervous scum.

[Aneninen]

I don't think you looked at my postcount if you actually think I am nervous scum

What the pigeon poop your post count has to do with being nervous or scummy?

Anyway, after reviewing the thread up to now I agree with the sentiment that Bacde could use some more pressure. At the very least, I find his early aggro-ness a bit offputting.

vote: Bacde

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Eigh. Even if I don't think Bacde is a bad vote, the context of this vote is terrible. Jumping on the major wagon and hoping to stay under the radar...?

I'm not asking for people to not listen to me, I'm asking people to not vote me.

Whut?
Whenever I'm early-wagoned as a townie, I ask for the opposite. Namely, read my posts and decide THEN whether I'm to be wagoned.

Spoiler:

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

I feel very strongly that 1 of Cavane or everydaymuffin is mafia

Where the nevercoming ghost train has those scumreads come from??!
Also, why have you used the word Mafia instead of Scum?

Now my scum-o-meter has reached the red line on you, Bacde.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bacde

I thought this was an odd comment as well. Wanna jump on that?UNVOTE: BarcodeVOTE: Cavane

E?
After all that push on Bacde, weren't you too quick on Cavane?

Fair enough, though the point you just made about Cavane is solid enough to satisfy my suspicions of you. Not only that, but the "long weekend" excuse for lurking seems awfully convenient for him to bring up without being asked about it. I would like some pressure on him now so...VOTE: Cavane

The early bird gets the worm.
The quickest sheep gets the scumread.

I think Imma keep my vote on Guyett because I'm not liking the way he's playing rn. I'm also not overly happy with Cavane's posts as well...

What's been so scummy in Guyett's play so far?

[Aneninen]

Don't prod me!
Thanks.

[Aneninen]

I hope everyone has realized that another mislynch and we may be in a very hard situation Tomorrow.

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.
At least I did't rushwagon Banana.
Sadly, my top scumread flipped Bodyguard.
I seriously doubt that every scum was on the wagon so I'd start with Kaiser or Duppin. Preferably the first one.

[Aneninen]

At least I did't rushwagon Banana.

Terrible comment.

You may call me terrible, but need we quicklynch someone again? We've got two weeks to talk!

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.

We really, really shouldn't quicklynch anyone, regardless of alignment.
I can't link it but check out Newbie 1629! I got quicklynched on Day2 and flipped scum. My partner won the game for us. He took control of the town and there was NO interaction between us. Town lost the opportunity of gaining information. Can you see my point, everyone?

[Aneninen]

It's very hard to read this game.
Most of the players are hardly doing anything. I'm no exception, I must admit. Two slots are empty.

[Aneninen]

Vedith, you're scumhunting selectively.

[Aneninen]

Plenty of work IRL, what's what I have.

[Aneninen]

I'm able to read the forum on mobile but unable to make long posts.

[Aneninen]

I don't have much time, however, there's not too many things happening.
The more I read Vedith, the scummier he is. With all those selective scumhunting, focusing on the SK alone... As I have time there will be a case built.

[Aneninen]

We're stalled as pigeon poop.

Let's make this game move.

VOTE: Vedith

[Aneninen]

Hi, RadiantCowbells!

Although this time you're wrong about me, I'm still happy to see you here. This means, everyone, the stall is over!

[Aneninen]

As for Vedith.

316 – starting the ConManMick wagon, which may be simply pressurizing (asking for his reads), but talking way more about the SK.

329 – terrible answer for my concerns about the ConManMick wagon. My problem was the speed, especially after the rushlynch on Day1. (Also, now I don't think ConManMick is scum, mostly because the game got stalled with the only wagon on him. This gamestall tell is a thing I posted on my wiki too.)

333 – yet again, asking me about the SK. Partner-associating himself with Duppin. I've already seen scums doing this and suggesting lynching the "assumed partner" next. 344 proves my previous sentence.

346 – more talk about the SK, this time with Cavane. (Could be fake if Cavane's Mafia too.)

348 – Pigeon poop. Any scum-lynch is good for us. Lynching the SK is good for the Mafia too, because there would be no crosskills after that.

Basically, Vedith is performing a selective scumhunt. And I think, had I gone along with talking about Duppin, he would have pushed his lynch.

[Aneninen]

Also, RC, you shall not get me lynched in this game.

[Aneninen]

Lol, good old days... when I didn't use to be a terrible player...

[Aneninen]

389 Is just a stupid assumption.
You are just scratching for sides, but hey, if you die and flip scum that should at least give me some credit so thanks.

Just one question.
Which faction of scum do you think I am?

RC, you too could answer this.

[Aneninen]

you're playing completely absentee and just letting whatever lynch go through.

That's not true. Check my iso and the VCs.

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.
Why am I dreadful? Because of unwilling to join the Conman wagon or because of willing to lynch Vedith?

RC is wrong about me this time and you shall never lynch me.

[Aneninen]

Okay, we don't have much time left.

A NoLynch would be terrible.

I don't think ConManMick is Mafia. Mostly because of this: if he were, his partners would have tried to derail his wagon, chainsaw someone or whatever... but nothing has happened. (He could be SK, that's true.) I was the only one who did something against that wagon by pushing Vedith, although without any result.
So, some of you might think that I'm scum with him or without him (and in this case I've been Whiteknighting him all the time). I understand your concerns. The only problem is...

...that I'm not scum.
I'm a Mason.

Dear Partner, you need not claim. By claiming I'm out of the lynch poole and even better, I'll get a Nightkill. If lucky, both factions will target me. But I bet there must be someone else besides us in this town with a cool PR. Or else, this 9:3:1 would be seriously unbalanced.

[Aneninen]

Why would you not put the Dear Partner section in your Mason thread?

Because I'm a lazy pigeon, who's been thinking about going to the swimming pool soon or not, while posting. One post takes less time, you know. But, eventually, pool is winning, I can see, considering the time I've left before leaving home for the evening. So much for the less time, thanks a lot, now I've spent additional minutes here by adding this rubbish explanation, which, however, is true.
Creating illegible sentences is definitely among'st my strong points, too.

[Aneninen]

Whenever the deadline is resumed there will be 5 days to agree upon a lynch just to let everyone know

I'm so glad that I've just claimed my PR, right before this post.
Another genius moment of my most exquisite gameplay!

[Aneninen]

As scum, I literally could have claimed anything else. Would I ever expose myself to get Nightkilled as scum? It's a Multiball!

mod

I hadn't read that part of the VC. Sorry everyone.

[Aneninen]

Actually Muffin and Cavane are way deep in the prod zone.

[Aneninen]

We shouldn't lynch anyone in the prod zone.

[Aneninen]

Catboi, that wagon gained momentum instantly right after the Day started. And next, there was nothing. No counterwagon, no Chainsaw, etc.
However, it still doesn't clear ConManMick at all – but being the SK is more probable than your explanation, I think.

[Aneninen]

Overall, I'm really not buying your case on me. According to you, a town player isn't allowed to bandwagon. I submit that bandwagons are one of the most effective ways of getting information.

I really don't like Anen's claim. I can't be totally certain, but my gut feel is that there aren't masons in this game. I don't have a ton of experience here though, so I may be out to lunch on that. But moreover, I don't understand why he would claim at this point. However, it does basically clear him of being the SK, so there's that.

Why, oh why did these give me the feeling that Cavane was trying to rolefish here?
Since the Vedith-wagon doesn't seem to move, I could join lynching him.

[Aneninen]

K
VOTE: Cavane

[Aneninen]

my muffin theory just got shot to hell unfortunately given he was scum in one of the games he didn't replace out of, which means his flaking here was likely more motivated by being a piece of crap than by alignment

If that was your theory, that explains why I'm voting town and you're voting scum.

let's just pretend i'm neither drunk nor extremely tired and that post never happened, mmk?

WHUT.

[Aneninen]

I'm confirming the post above.

[Aneninen]

Mod. Can we have a VC?

[Aneninen]

We're at MyLo. Scums can jump on any town wagon in a synchronized way. (RC could tell you about that...)
So, do not vote!

What if we massclaim? At least we could narrow the pool. Con: a protective role if unclaimed may screw up the things for the scum.

[Aneninen]

Here are Inanity's last thoughts.

Catboi was his top / another suspect. He wasn't pushing him only because he thought it would be bad for the game. He also said we shouldn't freepass him just because of being considered the most active player. (Top/another means: he said "top suspect" and "not his absolute top suspect" in the same post.)

He strongly disagreed with me about Cavane; he used to townread him.
He was unsure about Vedith.
He saw ChannelDelibird as a possibility; however, the fact that CD was unable to keep track with the replacements (which slot is replaced by whom) is a minor towntell. (He made some partner analysis here, but he also told that I should leave out that part.)
As for Fuzzy. According to Inanity, he may not be scum with Vedith, because Fuzzy thought Vedith claimed Mason.

(Everything has been paraphrased, obviously.)

We all should think about these things. He's dead, I'm not. For me, it suggests that his reads were better than mine. Or at least, I don't think scums would WIFOM-trick us by killing the less dangerous townie next to MyLo. (They still can jump on a town-wagon synchronized!)

Also, let's see that Performer-wagon. Inanity, RadiantCowbells, ChannelDelibird , Cavane, Vedith, Catboi. Who's the scum there? According to Inanity, the scum team could have jumped on this wagon one after the other. (The fact he was townreading Cavane contradicts this.) In my opinion, the whole team couldn't have been there; only one or two of them – because, there was no real counter-wagon at that point.

Do these things tell us something?

[Aneninen]

I know that I'm not the best player on the forum. But I think I'll sheep RC. My reason is that I know him. I played with him as town, played against him (I was scum). He even was in my game (and he guessed the scumteam right). This is the town-RC I know. If not, he's doing f-cking well.

[Aneninen]

I'm really sorry but because of IRL sickness I'm unable to play today.

[Aneninen]

Without having any better idea now.
VOTE: FuzzyLogic

[Aneninen]

UNVOTE:
So, Catboi is scum. It's good to know that.

[Aneninen]

I

really

promise that I'll post at least some thoughts today.
From tomorrow, I'll be on V/LA and yes, I know this won't make me a nice guy, nor a good player. But I'm telling the truth.

Mod

, if you have problems with that, replace me out. Although I really want to stay. As I'm back, there'll be more from me. Okay, everyone?

[Aneninen]

Either you or Fuzzy. I don't think both of you. I still have a couple of hours to decide.

[Aneninen]

Before I'm off. Let's keep that chance open too.
VOTE: Catboi

[Aneninen]

Shyt, it was RadiantCowbells. Gratz scummies and thanks for modding, Draynth!

[Aneninen]

LOLOLOLOLOL, RC! ^_^