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Post Post #505 (isolation #0) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:59 am

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Hi! I haven't read fuckin anything
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Post Post #506 (isolation #1) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:00 am

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Texcats post right above me is the scummiest thing I've seen this whole game holy fuck
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Post Post #507 (isolation #2) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:38 am

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Gut town on Titus
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Post Post #519 (isolation #3) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:09 pm

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In post 491, Accountant wrote:Titus any comment about the night?

can anyone honestly explain this post to me

like what the fuck kind of response was he expecting
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Post Post #520 (isolation #4) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:12 pm

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I don't think Accountant and Sakura can be scum together, that'd be a really awkward scum interaction for them to have
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Post Post #521 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:13 pm

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Both are scummy as fuck tho ya
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Post Post #522 (isolation #6) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:14 pm

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Honestly I'm kinda fine with any of those three kills, but I can try to research it a bit more.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #7) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:21 pm

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ya
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Post Post #538 (isolation #8) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:53 pm

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In post 505, BBmolla wrote:Hi! I haven't read fuckin anything

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Post Post #539 (isolation #9) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:54 pm

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In post 517, Titus wrote:You should shoot accountant. Texcat looked bad there, but accountant has been scummy all game.

At least wait until everyone posted.

This is actually the same conclusion I came to after isoing tex which reinforces my titus read
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Post Post #541 (isolation #10) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:55 pm

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In post 537, Sakura Hana wrote:Huh, didn't BBMolla say he wouldn't read anything, how would he know about my interactions with Accountant if that's true.

I feel like this is one of those posts where you can easily find out someone's alignment

does this read as Sakura genuinely trying to catch me in a lie

or Sakura scum trying to frame me
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Post Post #542 (isolation #11) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:55 pm

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feeling the former atm

maybe all three of those are town fuuuuck
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Post Post #543 (isolation #12) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:57 pm

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yeah nvm fuck that, it's impossible for all three of them to be town

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Post Post #548 (isolation #13) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:06 pm

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upon re-examination

Accountant is the correct shot
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Post Post #549 (isolation #14) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:06 pm

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Had a ping of gut town that was because I misread something
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Post Post #550 (isolation #15) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:07 pm

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In post 545, Sakura Hana wrote:And what do you think of SS ignoring me most of yesterday until i did something to catch his attention then continuing to ignore me again and now saying that im scum (for... what reason?) also why did you say me and accountant were both scummy, in what sense was i scummy in your opinion?

your first seven posts suck ass.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:08 pm

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your bother about me scumreading you is noted but I still don't exactly know what to make of it, I tend to lean town when someone asks "Why do you think I'm scummy?" because scum would rather not bring attention to it methinks
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Post Post #553 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:08 pm

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IIRC, texcat is always a robot.
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Post Post #554 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:09 pm

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In post 43, texcat wrote:If I were King, I would kill Soft-Spoken. First he claims that he got a red PM, next he fake claims king. Not a fan of fake claims.

In post 56, texcat wrote:
In post 54, Spiffeh wrote:That's a huge leap. How does me saying I don't like something make me scum?

And it's because that seems like the standard "easy" thing for scum to jump on. You really think scum would slip on their role PM color in their first post? You didn't even consider it could be a reaction test?


It's something I've seen scum do frequently. Say they don't like something or call someone or some post scummy without explaining.

And, of course, I don't think that the red PM post was a slip. I was thinking of it more as a taunt. A reaction test, perhaps. As I said, I'm not a fan.

In post 74, texcat wrote:OK.
VOTE: Spiffeh

He seemed a little hyperdefensive when I asked him to explain his I-don't-like-it post.
Still not a fan of Soft-spoken,
but it could just be a style issue.

I like these posts.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #19) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:12 pm

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43 can go either way though, depends on previous texcat games
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Post Post #558 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:13 pm

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In post 556, Sakura Hana wrote:=/ Why do i always get scumread for like no reason...

Gut PoE, if so, then who are you townreading and why?

I already told you your first seven posts sucked

I'm literally townreading everyone but accountant atm
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Post Post #560 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:14 pm

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really unimpactful, not trying to stand out, just kind of matched the scum mindset for that point in the game
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Post Post #561 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:15 pm

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does it honestly matter, I think you're town so who cares
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Post Post #563 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:16 pm

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I don't like those posts enough to where I will be upset if you shoot tex fwiw
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Post Post #564 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:16 pm

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I'm town, like three of the most impactful people in the game already know it so idc if it takes you a bit longer to realize it
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Post Post #569 (isolation #25) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:18 pm

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Titus I think is town which is HORRIFYING because I can't read her correctly ever so

Her appeal to me really did it for me, so she might have just won me over emotionally and its affecting my read? I don't see what point she would have to defend texcat, and I agree with what she said about texcat.

Firebringer might be scum due to PoE
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Post Post #570 (isolation #26) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:19 pm

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In post 568, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 564, BBmolla wrote:I'm town, like three of the most impactful people in the game already know it so idc if it takes you a bit longer to realize it

The most impactful ppl thinking you're town, doesnt have any influence in how i read ppl, usually when i find scum a lot of ppl disagree with me anyway.

I can either sit here and tell you I'm town or you could just like try to read what I'm posting? It's not like I'm lurking and making it hard to follow my thoughts
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Post Post #571 (isolation #27) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:20 pm

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In post 535, Firebringer wrote:
In post 534, Sakura Hana wrote:So why is accountant unlikely to be scum again?

aggressive agro town. Scum don't act that way often, even if its personality or style. Scum would tone it down.

Elaborate, which posts
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Post Post #573 (isolation #28) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:21 pm

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Tex/Accountant is who I'd shoot
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Post Post #574 (isolation #29) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:21 pm

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See I considered wanderer for scum cause he fit the bill as the "lurking scum" but he seems so fucking happy and joyful I just couldn't see him being scum, and his scumhunting seemed geneuine
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Post Post #576 (isolation #30) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:22 pm

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In post 451, Wanderer-nl wrote:I'm not sure about Accountant but I've consistently scumread her in earlier games while she was town so I;m willing to trust other people's opinion on that more than my own.

This seems pretty fucking genuine imo but if Accountant is scum it makes Wanderer a whole hell of a lot more likely scum
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Post Post #577 (isolation #31) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:23 pm

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In post 575, Sakura Hana wrote:Well, i still don't see what your supposed issue with my first 7 posts it other than what you thought about those posts, which is obviously untrue in regards to what i was doing, it was your interpretation of it, regardless of your alignment, that doesn't necessarily make you scum, then again im probably the only one who noticed TSB and SS ignoring me completely yesterday.

If I'm scum, I'm going to interpret things completely differently.

Did I actually believe your first 7 posts to be scummy for the reasons stated or did I just make it up to frame you and back off to gain towncred or whatever scum theory you can come up with

thats how this game is played, you make theories about intent and check if the throughline makes more sense as town or scum
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Post Post #579 (isolation #32) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:24 pm

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In post 560, BBmolla wrote:really unimpactful, not trying to stand out, just kind of matched the scum mindset for that point in the game

^In case you missed my reasons
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Post Post #580 (isolation #33) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:25 pm

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In post 578, Sakura Hana wrote:Uhh, yeah that's genuine... that doesnt say anything about his alignment tho...

If Accountant is town, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to half ass a read like that on a possible mislynch imo.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #34) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:33 pm

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In post 581, Sakura Hana wrote:>unimpactful

What part of joining an RVS wagon is unimpactful.

You're not making any statements with it.

In post 88, Sakura Hana wrote:I use bookmark topic at the bottom, tho im aware that a lot of ppl do egosearch, Either way the only actual townread i have right now is SS, so im gonna help wagon spiffeh because reasons
VOTE: spiffeh


Your literal reasons was "reasons."

Not even "I think they're scummy" or an actual statement, you literally said "reasons."

It's easy to hide as scum early if you don't make any concrete statements because you can wait for shit to form and then form reasons around the shit to make you look good.
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Post Post #588 (isolation #35) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:34 pm

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I just now realized you have like as many posts on this site as I do, why have I never seen you before wtf
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Post Post #590 (isolation #36) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:35 pm

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In post 586, Sakura Hana wrote:And apparently you also forgot about wanderer,

What do you mean
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Post Post #593 (isolation #37) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:36 pm

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In post 589, Soft-spoken wrote:well. sakura did townread me early! scum never does that.

You're a pretty obvious read imo, it's pretty safe to townread you, it'd cause more issues than not.

I mean, you could be scum here I guess but lol if you are thats funny as fuck and you should execute me for the laughs, it'd be so worth it post game
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Post Post #594 (isolation #38) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:36 pm

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In post 591, Accountant wrote:
requesting replacement

I forgot to add in hydras when calculating how many games I would be playing and unfortunately find myself one game overloaded. My policy is to drop games in the same order they started, so I guess I'll have to be replaced here.

Many apologies for any inconvenience.

PS: Titus is totally scum.

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Post Post #596 (isolation #39) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:36 pm

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Ooooooooooooooh kay gotcha.

In post 587, Sakura Hana wrote:You seemed to have missed this post molla, which was also included in the first 7 you like to talk about:
In post 113, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 104, Spiffeh wrote:Sakura watchu doin

Joining an RVS wagon what else.

???

This is still super unimpactful so what is your point?
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Post Post #597 (isolation #40) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:38 pm

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Like, we can dance this dance, but if you still think I'm making all this up at this point I don't know what another day of us doing this is going to prove.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #41) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:39 pm

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seriously though soft execute me if you're scum, think about how amazing it'd be
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Post Post #603 (isolation #42) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:41 pm

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I think this is a pointless discussion Sakura, if you don't think I genuinely believed what I said I don't think we will reach a point where you ever do and I think it's just going to fill up pages with drivvle.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #43) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:41 pm

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In post 602, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 599, Soft-spoken wrote:im going to test my theory and ego my games... im p sure scum has never townread me off the bat.... i tend to make... entrances that help avoid that. i didnt go out of my way to be silly this game but i had some of my typical instafos reactions going strong

Yet apparently if this is true and you're town, you managed to think i was scum

You do know town can misread people right?
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Post Post #605 (isolation #44) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:42 pm

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that's kind of key thing about games

if someone agrees with you about something and gives same exact reasons/sees same things, that lends to them being town imo

but people disagreeing with you doesn't necesarily make them scum, sometimes they're just bad or you did something that looks scummy to how they read the game

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Post Post #609 (isolation #45) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:43 pm

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I'm just a bit lost how you can have as many posts as me but need me to explain out my thought process to you, it should've been obvious after my first post explaining it :|
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Post Post #610 (isolation #46) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:43 pm

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In post 608, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 605, BBmolla wrote:if someone agrees with you about something and gives same exact reasons/sees same things, that lends to them being town imo

I thought that was called parroting.

Not if they say it before you do.
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Post Post #611 (isolation #47) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:44 pm

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Sakura go read my iso this game against firebringer's

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=64093
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Post Post #613 (isolation #48) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:49 pm

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To be fair to you Soft's first post is probably the single worst post in this game.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #49) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:29 pm

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In post 614, Titus wrote:
In post 613, BBmolla wrote:To be fair to you Soft's first post is probably the single worst post in this game.


Is it soft or Texcat that had the worst post? If soft, why didn't you put him in your first reads?

Soft's play in the past few pages + the fact he's king meant he wasn't even a priority to read when I replaced in.
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Post Post #619 (isolation #50) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:38 pm

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Personally I say just execute Account slot so we dont deal with replacement

but do as you will imout for now
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Post Post #620 (isolation #51) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:38 pm

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and cause its scum obv
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Post Post #635 (isolation #52) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:29 pm

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Oh my fucj I'm so drunk

Please let's win guys I love you lets fucj
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Post Post #639 (isolation #53) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:00 am

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By lets fuck I meant to talk lets fucking win
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Post Post #650 (isolation #54) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:39 am

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VOTE: Accountant

If town I need to do a lot of evaluating.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #55) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:19 pm

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Honestly it's irrelevant who cares, Titus isn't going to lie about that dude
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Post Post #679 (isolation #56) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:16 pm

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Sakura is more than likely town Soft.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #57) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:52 pm

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scum: accountant and tex
town: everyone else
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Post Post #687 (isolation #58) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:47 pm

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Cause there has to be a second scum

my reads probably suck minus accountant so I'm kind of just chillin till I see that flip
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Post Post #690 (isolation #59) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:41 pm

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3 scum with 11 players is unlikely.
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Post Post #693 (isolation #60) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:53 pm

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wow that's broken as fuck

we're fucked
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Post Post #698 (isolation #61) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:56 pm

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Nah I could fake that easy, honest. It's null.

I'm exceedingly unconfident in any read but accountant at the moment but I think it's interesting as fuck that you made that proposal smith. Don't know what it means but it's interesting.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #62) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:52 am

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Whelp.

I'll be reading.
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Post Post #728 (isolation #63) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:54 am

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In case it wasn't clear, I'm town or I'd have ended the game by now
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Post Post #733 (isolation #64) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:13 pm

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Firebringer is probably scum
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Post Post #739 (isolation #65) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:39 pm

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In post 729, Firebringer wrote:This game is pretty much over.

Don't know why I signed up for this with 11 players and 3 scum.
It didn't sound balanced at all.

Turns out: It wasn't!

>.>

I don't think you'd make this post as town Firebringer.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #66) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:39 pm

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Seems like scum theatre.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:40 pm

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In post 737, texcat wrote:
In post 724, Titus wrote:Pretty sure myself, FB, BB and Dominator are the town.

I know I'm town, so I know this is wrong somewhere. Why are you so sure of Fb?

My guess for scum is Wanderer, Fb, Sakura.

Why do you think Titus is town misreading you as opposed to scum?
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Post Post #742 (isolation #68) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:40 pm

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Also I thought Dom's slot died and the game was over lmao
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Post Post #743 (isolation #69) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:41 pm

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Sorry my read was bad Soft, RIP :(
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Post Post #745 (isolation #70) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:42 pm

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Who is scum Firebringer.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #71) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:54 pm

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In post 746, Firebringer wrote:Scum: Sakura, Texcat, Titus/Wanderer

literally fucking useless.

Who is scum in Titus/Wanderer.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #72) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:55 pm

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In post 725, Wanderer-nl wrote:I'm actually starting to think Titus is scum here now that we know Accountant was actually a hero. I don't see Titus having a problem bussing a buddy, also based on how scum killed another town hero N1 makes me think that she was also on to Accountant and that's why she executed Blocky instead of Accountant.
I'm also now scumreading Firebringer. I actually thought he was kingmaker, in our previous kingmaker (couple weeks ago) he asked/talked a lot about being king. Him not doing that here so much (I think maybe 2 posts on that) made me think he was the kingmaker and the posts he did make about being king were forced to hide that fact. Seeing how I was wrong with Smithereens flip, and me just realizing that Firebringer is doing a lot less of everything this game make me scumread him.

Sakura and texcat, who are your top executions right now?

I think Wanderer is bussing both you guys FB

I honestly believe a FB/Titus/Wanderer team.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #73) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:55 pm

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Need a bit to read, no quick decisions in lylo
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Post Post #755 (isolation #74) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:20 pm

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In post 752, Firebringer wrote:
In post 749, BBmolla wrote:
I think Wanderer is bussing both you guys FB

I honestly believe a FB/Titus/Wanderer team.

That is the most insane team ever!
Me? Titus? and Wanderer?
Jeez.

If both wanderer and titus are scum, mind blown.

Why is Titus and Wanderer beingscum insane, go
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Post Post #757 (isolation #75) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:27 pm

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why
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Post Post #758 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:27 pm

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I legit think Titus is one of the hardest players for me to read and Wanderer has been vacant a lot of the game
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Post Post #760 (isolation #77) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:31 pm

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In post 759, Firebringer wrote:and is very protective of our scum buddies.

?
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Post Post #763 (isolation #78) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:22 pm

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dat slip tho
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Post Post #766 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:52 pm

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I think he's scum regardless of authenticity of it
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Post Post #768 (isolation #80) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:40 am

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That doesn't really mean shit coming from you
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Post Post #771 (isolation #81) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:39 am

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DO SOMETHING
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Post Post #772 (isolation #82) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:39 am

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Like holy fuck you're just sitting here throwing ATE at me

Do something you fuck
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Post Post #773 (isolation #83) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:39 am

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Why and who are scum
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Post Post #774 (isolation #84) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:39 am

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You've been in this game longer than me, be mad that I'm fucking up and SHOW ME why I'm fucking up, what am I missing
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Post Post #776 (isolation #85) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:57 am

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I don't give a shit what I am, I'm fucking basically confirmed town

I think you're scum and all you're giving me is this "woe is me" bullshit when I want you to prove me wrong
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Post Post #778 (isolation #86) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:13 am

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Forget it.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #87) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:29 am

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The kingmaker will be confirmed town right?
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Post Post #783 (isolation #88) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:29 am

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They should claim
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Post Post #784 (isolation #89) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:29 am

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Assuming scum are dumb and don't cc that's three confirmed town
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Post Post #785 (isolation #90) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:30 am

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Where is Sakura
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Post Post #786 (isolation #91) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:32 am

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Everyone should claim Kingmaker or Not Kingmaker
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Post Post #788 (isolation #92) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:34 am

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Nope. I want my 75% chance to get scum.

Not Kingmaker here
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Post Post #792 (isolation #93) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:46 am

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Why can't you kingmaker Dom
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Post Post #794 (isolation #94) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:48 am

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Oh I missed that.

Well drat.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #95) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:48 am

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Do we not auto lose no matter what?
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Post Post #796 (isolation #96) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:50 am

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Dom where do you stand buddy?
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Post Post #798 (isolation #97) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:52 am

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I don't see how Titus's scenario is only specific to there being a known kingmaker
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Post Post #801 (isolation #98) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:48 pm

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Dom who would you kill if you were king atm
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Post Post #807 (isolation #99) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:13 pm

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In post 804, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 796, BBmolla wrote:Dom where do you stand buddy?

I like an FB lynch at this point. His slip has no town intentions anywhere

So you do think FB is scum? I'm not crazy to think that?
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Post Post #809 (isolation #100) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:20 pm

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who is the best execute
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Post Post #810 (isolation #101) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:20 pm

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and like are you claiming scum, I don't understand, should I not be crazy to think you're scum
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Post Post #813 (isolation #102) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:39 am

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Sakura post
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Post Post #825 (isolation #103) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:40 pm

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I think it's fine, aligns with me. Didn't have much to touch upon in it.

I'm content on lynching Firebringer but I see no reason to rush.

Titus feels weird as fuck here but I don't know what it means and it's frustrating me.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #104) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:57 am

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VOTE: Firebringer
execute: Firebringer

Or whatever a King does

If we lose sorry all.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #105) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:43 am

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Sorry guys
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Post Post #843 (isolation #106) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:44 am

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My play was awful, not much else to say.
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Post Post #846 (isolation #107) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:24 am

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In post 749, BBmolla wrote:I honestly believe a FB/Titus/Wanderer team.

Misreading Sakura fucked me.
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Post Post #848 (isolation #108) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:47 am

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8:3 is still scumsided pisskop. Doesn't matter if we have three mislynches.
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Post Post #850 (isolation #109) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:51 am

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Heros are pretty useless imo.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #110) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:52 am

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It literally just rewards bad play. The only time it's useful is if you fuck up and kingmake scum.
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Post Post #858 (isolation #111) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:00 am

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In post 855, pisskop wrote:Now, if you were scum who drew one of two assassain cards, would you call an 11p game fair?

Yes.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #112) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:00 am

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To be completely real, the correct balance for 11p is 2 scum, 1 traitor.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #113) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:01 am

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In post 857, Firebringer wrote:
In post 854, pisskop wrote:It works fine when people are engaged and they arent allowed to lurk and people dont forgive blatent scumslips

Scum don't always lurk. Town do so too.

I made a 'scum slip' and I was town, so really they aren't a 100% reliable.

I have played this before and the scum didn't lurk and the town lurked, and I played horribly in that too.

This game type is just not fun, and Its really not your fault for that pisskop.

The gametype is just AWFUL.

I gave it a second try, done with it now.

I advise Popcorn Mafia, it's basically Kingmaker but way way way better.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #114) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:15 pm

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