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In post 17, Elbirn wrote:For the record I'm still deciding what to be
Like this might be the most critical decision I will ever make I can't rush this
Seriously. So many choices. I wish I had less interests.-
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<3 I was still enjoying things too. And dude, elbirn, did you see my role? OMG! Most OP thing ever.
pedit: lol Varsoon. Once we clarified that maybe you could have ended up wanting to help scum, he was no longer on my cleared list. GG at that point, but with his weird mechanic it may have taken a while to actually get him killed.-
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But yes, zmuffin, your role was absurd. however, you had to *publicly* sing to people. You could only do one day/night action per day. So, you would have been limited to one of those kills every 2 days, and if you did it via the day public singing thing, it would be pretty clear you were connected to it.-
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Ah. Hmm. Also, I'm not so sure your team played like shit? tn was just luck. itlepip was some deduction based on the interactions with tn. EAP was luck(even though he wasn't part of your team, technically), I was going to have LH masonize me the first night, to be certain I knew their alignment, and to chat with them about how to best maximize my roles utility, but decided I preferred to make sure the home neighborhood was clear before I tried to branch out and establish an overwhelming number of conftowns. MF was, idk, a natural person to check, on D1, cause mastin/hiplop.-
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And yeah, that's true zmuffin. nightmares for awhile, then boom people. Quite strong. If Mass Flop hadn't been caught, double kill 3 nights in a row would end the game quickly.
Meh. I was probably gnna have whoever I had masonize die tonight too. Was gonna pick whoever I felt was most likely scum and have them masonize our pgo.
pedit: My investigation of him was perfectly reasonable. If he's town, then we know you're town. And I know my neighborhood is very likely clear of scum, and I can reveal my OP power and strategize. As well as beginning a network of masonry. If he had been town, the next night would have been LH/RP masonizing jeanne/EAP. Then the next night, someone else, so we'd have like 6 conftown all connected and talking without scum knowledge.-
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Oh, yes. I felt it was unlikely that all members of the neighborhood were town. Possible, but improbable. So I wanted to clear him, since I had already 90% cleared Jeanne. I don't remember who I had him masonize(it should have been KC, but it may have not been because I may have been paranoid she would die N1), but yeah. That was the plan there. Network of conftown, and when it fails, catch scum, and nobody ever knows it's me doing it except for conftown. Except I caught non-town on the first night, and thus became a target. :-/ Mission then became: Feed as many conftown to KC as possible so she can spit them out.-
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Yeah. RP has a valid point. I kept wanting to do something cool, but the only thing better than my masonize would have been some sort of enhanced version of it that had some additional effect, like the members of the masonry are bp while both are alive or something.
Pedit : a vig and a desperado both guarantee a second lynch.....-
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Yeah, your role waa pretty sweet fb, but...it was basically mine minus the roleblocking I did/killing restriction, and with a buncha restrictions that sucked. :/
Zmuffin: Ah, fair enough. If we're giving out unlimited shots, vig is better, sure. I think we didn't even consider it might be infinite though. :p
Yeah, dram....that's what it looked like. *sigh* :p
Lol fb :/ ask more questions man. I guess with your role restriction I can see why you were uncertain about whether or not you could ask any questions.-
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Hmm. Didn't you tell me, dram, thar I could have had someone invent x shot vig to someone else? I suppose it was more limited in that sense, true, but I think for most practical purposes it would ha e worked out the same. The no targeting one person twice thing waa a concern though, yes..
Yeaj, he just knew he had to keep his target alive. :/-
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Well sure, it wasn't a fake claim, but using it as an explanation for why you may have returned a guilty was bad. You could have claimed it could be used during the day or night, and after the discussion showed EP appared to have an unlimited vig, you thought he was the best target to see if you could steal that as well. That would have explained it all better than the contradiction you suggested.
Having mastin ditch you probably hurt more than anything else though. :/-
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Well, the role itself COULD have theoretically explained the guilty, it was just the way he claimed he had used it that turned out he claim from something which we could have theoretically considered as valid, into a hard guilty that wasn't arguable. We were also too far ahead to not just lynch off a cop guilty. You probably didn't really have any outs.-
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Pgo cop is a dream claim in a game where anything is possible, as shown by the lucid dreamer. At that point he just had to make the most bad-ass omg don't lynch or target this role imaginable.
Not sure why he created the associative wirh mass flop though. Admittedly, I did forget about it completely within a couple days, but that probably didn't help?-
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Well, sure, but the test is lynching the guilty not the source of the guilty, unless you're in lylo, where it's more complex..coulda even got two scum just by continuing to not claim pgo, giving out the guilty, and letting zmuffin get himself killed by you. :p(granted, zmuffin wouldn't have died cause of his role, but you get what I'm saying. )
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