Mini 1751: Steven Universe - The Prequel (GAME OVER)

[farside22]

So I picked town and the mod sent me a note saying he was concerned everyone was going to pick scum for a moment.
My question for everyone else is why did you want to be scum this game?


Also I may want to join Titus tonight since I will miss her most of all when I take my time off mafia

[farside22]

Titus isn't in this game, and I didn't pick mafia in the first place.

Well he implied concern about everyone picking scum.
Did he say anything to you after your choice?

@Jeanne ILU - why not! lets be laughy happy allies

VOTE: Farside How could I know your not faking your massage?!

Why would you think I would fake a message?

I'm either hallucinating or stupid or both but I swear titus was in on of the hydrae but she's not

I thought so to. I'm sad now.
So why did you pick scum?

[farside22]

Why would you think I would fake a message?

to make us think your town? dah!

Why are you trying to stay in rvs?

So I picked town and the mod sent me a note saying he was concerned everyone was going to pick scum for a moment.
My question for everyone else is why did you want to be scum this game?

Also I may want to join Titus tonight since I will miss her most of all when I take my time off mafia

VOTE: farside22


Because I didn't get a note from Varsoon and I'm jealous.

(You'll be missed, Farside. You won't be gone for very long, will you? )

I'm hoping no longer then 6 months.
I need to get some RL stuff taken care of that's all and a necessary break from playing.

[farside22]

I chose scum because I've not been mafia in a long time.
And I really want to draw it some time to improve my scumgame.

It's over rated.

Titus isn't in this game, and I didn't pick mafia in the first place.

Well he implied concern about everyone picking scum.
Did he say anything to you after your choice?

@Jeanne ILU - why not! lets be laughy happy allies

VOTE: Farside How could I know your not faking your massage?!

Why would you think I would fake a message?

I'm either hallucinating or stupid or both but I swear titus was in on of the hydrae but she's not

I thought so to. I'm sad now.
So why did you pick scum?

He said to me 'blegh'.

I think your lying.

Vote: Jeanne

Oh hey wgeurts guy is town. That was easy.

Agreed.

We picked scum and got denied. We even went with the option which had powers with better utility for scum. :-/

See wgeurts reason for why.

Now that that's over, isn't that an interesting list of discarded options! 3 jaspers???? O.o Anybody aware of any players who hate rolling scum? Just curious, since in this game, the fact that we didn't get scum even though we chose it means that more people chose scum than their were scum slots, so those who would be inclined to choose town all got their preference.

-Cerb

I chose town because it take more effort to be scum and I have no energy to put into deceiving anyone

[farside22]

Hi guys. This is my last game of mafia for a long long time, if ever.

Mastin and I picked town and got town.

VOTE: FA

Mastin wanted town??

I'm quitting because mafia is a trash game that makes friends and family say things to each other that should never be said and I fucking hate it.

I'm playing this game out because I am hydraing with Mastin and because I respect and like Varsoon a lot.

yeah?!

VOTE: RR L1

You scum this game.

[farside22]

Jeanne and Marquis are much more likely to be town than scum at this moment, yes.

-Cerb

Why is Jeanne a town read?

Why do you think I am lying?

Looks like bull beat me to the punch.

Jeanne, I posted in our hydra PT we were picking town and he said "Cool." My guess is as an acknowledgement.

I do not for a moment believe he said "Blegh" to you. You look like you are trying to fit in with farside about the mod comments.

This.


So caught up over.
Frozen why did you ask about the votes the put RR at l-1?

[farside22]

where is this game of words going to end anyway?

Jeanne as scum is easily noticeable. let me have 1 night with her as alliance!

No offense I've dealt with the too scummy to be scum attitude in regards to Jeanne that I have no issue voting her

[farside22]

where is this game of words going to end anyway?

Jeanne as scum is easily noticeable. let me have 1 night with her as alliance!

No offense I've dealt with the too scummy to be scum attitude in regards to Jeanne that I have no issue voting her

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suggesting policy?

No.

Frozen why did you ask about the votes the put RR at l-1?

too see whats their reaction about L1 and showing the game is serious and their wagon might end with a lol hammer.

wasn't that clear?

@Jeanne Ha?!!

That makes no sense.
How did you know that would happen?
What did you think of there response?

[farside22]

ha. about that I just wanted to see her answer to see if she has inconsistansy about the massage or not, because I personally doubt that the mod could have said such a thing to players.

what inconsistency in my vote/intent? I saw there are 4 votes on 1 person asked if there is something I missed in 58

in 60 I saw a really good place for reaction test so I went forward.

I never asked people to town read me becuase of my reaction tests. that's just my main method of testing people.

about my 3rd case (which is actually the first) I was w8ing to see if anyone wants to ask anything about it or not!

his started calling people town, when asked why he dodged the question. later he just assumed another guy town. then he asked a really stupid question "are you scum?". thats all his ISO. so yeah ... that's a decent vote atm.

There isn't a reason to lie about a message but it's possible I did that as a reaction.

Vote: Frozen

I'll be expanding on this in my next post

[farside22]

I'm not scum reading FA due to any emotions.
She'd being glib on purpose.
I asked about her vote on RR.
She got snarky response to my question.
I can tell because when I pushed further she basically acts like she isn't either reading post or she's posting crap and not scum hunting at all.
She didn't care about the wagon on RR, this is fact based on her asking others about there vote and then never caring about solving why there was a wagon.

[farside22]

If she's town, how do you plan on being wrong?

I don't care.
Do you care if your wrong?

[farside22]

I'm just going to put Jeanne on ignore.
Because apparently you can't make a case on anyone in this game without it being because there playstyle.
You know because that's how you play Mafia and figure out who scum is typically.
Let's not do that right.


So not missing somethings while I'm gone.

[farside22]

Yes, I do. I believe that if one is wrong, one should apologize. Haven't your parents taught you that?

Everyone will be wrong about who is scum.
No one will ever be 100% accurate reads playing this game.
Apologizing for being wrong is just dumb

Farside.

Do you have any experience with 3dice?

We haven't talked yet and it's both of our last game!

Very limited experience. I've seen his scum read as a moderator.
Right now he's pretty null.

[farside22]

Because those voting/suspecting FA are trying to stop our alliance and I can't help but think it's essentially a scum agenda.

[farside22]

Yes, I do. I believe that if one is wrong, one should apologize. Haven't your parents taught you that?

What does this even have to do with the game?

I have no clue but right now she's coming across as whiny which just is annoying me currently.

So what about 3dice do you want to discuss?

[farside22]

Touches ignore button.
Sighs.
If only you existed in more then my head my friend.


I'm going to reread a few people and get stuff sorted

[farside22]

I answered Erra - he said he will dig that up

Dice just sheeped

Farside posted thousands of posts after that with no damn reason + she stated that she won't be sad if she is mislynching!

Hearth is yet to provide reason.

pedit : ahhhhhh ... I'm always like this! I made an actual case on dice! you can't see his Iso?!

I posted a reason.
You sure have a way of making any post I make look poisonous.
Is that just a skill you have there?

[farside22]

I'm not scum reading FA due to any emotions.
She'd being glib on purpose.
I asked about her vote on RR.
She got snarky response to my question.
I can tell because when I pushed further she basically acts like she isn't either reading post or she's posting crap and not scum hunting at all.
She didn't care about the wagon on RR, this is fact based on her asking others about there vote and then never caring about solving why there was a wagon.

Here is my issues here.

They are in reference to the following post made by FA.

asking about wagon
votes wagon
response to why she voted
misrepresentation to the fullest
chocking on her words when pushed further

[farside22]

I answered Erra - he said he will dig that up

Dice just sheeped

Farside posted thousands of posts after that with no damn reason + she stated that she won't be sad if she is mislynching!

Hearth is yet to provide reason.

pedit : ahhhhhh ... I'm always like this! I made an actual case on dice! you can't see his Iso?!

I posted a reason.
You sure have a way of making any post I make look poisonous.
Is that just a skill you have there?

Oi, is this a thing that we all ignore my questions that I'm not aware of?

I just was reading the current page. Did you ask something of me?

[farside22]

Just for the read I am not reading Jeanne's post since I said I was ignoring them.

I need a read list for my own sanity because said player feels the need to spam the fucking game like it helps (which it doesn't)


Jeanne11 - town (vi, but town)
Reasonably Rational (Drixx & Cerberus v666) - Im reading cerberus as town. I would like Drixx to pop in and give his views before this is a full town read.
Masters of Bull (Mastin2 & Fro99er)
wgeurts - town
Frozen Angel - scum
Elbirn - so far I'm reading elbirn as scum. He tends to lurk more as scum I noticed.
Heartless (Antihero & TellTaleHeart) - drunk anti makes me laugh. Other then that he is null. I want TTH in here to get a better read.
Marquis - leaning town
Errantparabola - leaning town
3dicerolling - gut says town but reading him there isn't really anything that screams anything but null
Klingoncelt - 1 post and nothing exciting.
Hiplop - leaning scum

[farside22]

and don't go this way. I'm not disrespecting you or discarding any posts of your I just want to answer any doubts casted about my slot.

I don't want to make every post people make poisonous. I want to DEFEND myself and rescue town from a mis lynch.

pedit sure! (as I never answered them before!):

1 - whats your problem with me asking the wagon?

2 - whats your problem with me voting in a wagon that is obvious my vote is for reaction testing.

3 - Whats wrong about my response? I will scream that I rection tested there if you continue asking that. thats the way I use to scum hunt and its definetly working.

4 - YOU SAID YOU HAVE NO ISSUE TO VOTE JEANNE because you think she is too scummy for being scum - Thats just her personality and everyone know that. that's definitely suggesting a policy.

5 - THAT WAS THE RESULTS OF MY REACTION TEST. WHATS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ME?!

1) You never followed up with finding out why there was a wagon.
2) You put a player at l-1 and it wasn't RVS at the time. You are now bitching about fast wagon on you, so obviously you would think to have some concern about a fast wagon on others if you were town.
3) You didn't say it was a fucking reaction test and when I asked how you knew what was going to fucking happen you basically just through the question back in my fucking face, like you are now instead of responding to any fucking questions.
4) No, I said I'm tired of the too scummy to be scum response. And the last time I saw that with Jeanne she was scum in a game.
5) It's a load of crap.

Like seriously all you do is lash out and don't scum hunt, then bitch at players who don't give cases when you don't give a fucking case.
You think I should call you a hypocrite or scum? Which would be better because frankly I know you are better then this emotional crap your throwing.

Farside please explain your early game message thing you claimed was test of sorts.

I was asking hypothetically what if my question was a reaction test to see how FA would respond. I did get a message from the mod after I picked my choices.

[farside22]

3dicerolling - gut says town but reading him there isn't really anything that screams anything but null

You ever Isoed him?! his posts screams scum

Why?

[farside22]

I'm not switching my vote.
1) dice wasn't voting for rr so saying that fa got something from asking about the wagon and voting for it is crap.
2) rvs was over a long time ago and the fact she kept trying to keep it rvs isn't town.

[farside22]

VOTE: farside

So your not going to scum hunt?

[farside22]

Yeah and omgus votes mean nothing to me.
Players she votes.
FA sheeped a vote.
Also I would policy lynch Jeanne at this point to make this game more fun and about playing Mafia instead not playing a game and acting like a victim

[farside22]

But she didn't try to keep it in RVS. She wanted to get out of it, she said so herself. Learn to read.

p-edit: learn to read of stfu

I asked her a question and ahe joked around how is that getting out of rvs.

[farside22]

And no the attitude from the gruesome twosome sure won't change my read on Jeanne or FA.
One is emotional and the other is butt hurt at being caught scum

[farside22]

Let's see I proved FA stayed in rvs
I made a case in FA
FA sheeps Jeanne when she's made no case and all FA does is flail around

[farside22]

Oh my god this game.

Sanity please!!!

Am I crazy the FA stayed in rvs?
What do you make of her asking about the rr wagon and voting no one on the wagon?

[farside22]

I NEVER VOTED YOU BECAUSE OF JEANNE

I voted you because you keep misrepresenting me

STFU

I'm sorry I missed the case you made on me.

[farside22]

So you're ignoring the post where FA said that RR wagon was TO GET OUT OF RVS, NOT STAY IN IT?

THE GAME WAS ALREADy OUT OF RVS!

[farside22]

I moved the fucking game out of rvs with my question and stop acting like it didnt

[farside22]

YOU PROVED I STAYED IN RVS? your joking me?! WHEN YOU DID that? YOU LIED ABOUT A MOD MASSAGE , I asked why you did that. Thats staying in RVS?

or asking about a fast wagon?!

or voting someone in L1?

or making town reads based on that?

or scum reading someone and making case against him?!

I didn't lie.

I would quote it if I was allowed.

I made a ducking case where I asked you why you were staying in rvs.

Jesus it's like all your doinng if faking ignorance at this point

[farside22]

Why would you think I would fake a message?

to make us think your town? dah!

Why are you trying to stay in rvs?

So I picked town and the mod sent me a note saying he was concerned everyone was going to pick scum for a moment.
My question for everyone else is why did you want to be scum this game?

Also I may want to join Titus tonight since I will miss her most of all when I take my time off mafia

VOTE: farside22


Because I didn't get a note from Varsoon and I'm jealous.

(You'll be missed, Farside. You won't be gone for very long, will you? )

I'm hoping no longer then 6 months.
I need to get some RL stuff taken care of that's all and a necessary break from playing.

Here

[farside22]

The ducking around from FA why whe bypass one of her own post tells me she's doing this on purpose

[farside22]

I moved the fucking game out of rvs with my question and stop acting like it didnt

GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE

You want credit for that pre planned townslip?! I WON'T GIVE YOU ANY

pedit : I don't believe you, I didn't believe you there. but I didn't took that as alignment indicative.

Show me the case! Your implying I was trying to stay in RVS when I was trying to sort you out.

Read 542

[farside22]

These three was in RVS

@Jeanne ILU - why not! lets be laughy happy allies

VOTE: Farside How could I know your not faking your massage?!

Happy New Blue Frozen Year BTW

Why would you think I would fake a message?

to make us think your town? dah!

WHICH ONE OF MY POST WAS MY TRY TO STAY IN RVS?! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU IMPLYING HERE?

I was making progress by showing people that I don't believe your massage thing for a second.

Are you going to sit her read post number 23 and say you were trying to stay in rvs when asked a serious question.

[farside22]

See I asked my question at the beginning to see if players would respond truthful or get a reaction if someone was scum.
FA accused me of lying and called it scummy but it's first the truth and second even if untrue for whatever reason it still instill reaction to get reads from players. None of which is scummy.
She's then gets silly when asked about why she thought it was fake and then gets into a quick wagon on RR claiming it was to get out of rvs.
All this rings fake because l-1 in unnessary to get out of rvs and she still never looks at the wagon in rr to see if anyone on it could be scum.
She doesn't care and misreprented anything said

[farside22]

NO I MOVED THE GAME OUT OF RVS

Jesus fuck who gives a shit.

FA's emotional screaming is probably indicative of her town play but I'm not positive.

I think Jeanne realizes this but is also emotionally invested in FA because they are friends and it's clouding her being able to read how others are interacting FA. Hence why she came back at me about what I going to do when FA flips town when I wasn't even voting FA.

I'm not really sure why Farside is pushing an RVS point and the L-1 stuff is actually pretty town motivated by FA because she explicitly stated it was L-1 so that nobody did derphammer.

I don't necessarily believe her asking about the RR wagon then voting nobody on it is scum-indicative but I may be biased because I'm also scum reading 3dice

I don't see anything town motivated from her.
Emotion is easy to do as either town or scum so....?

[farside22]

No offense MOB, but do you think a wagon on rr didn't have scum in it?

[farside22]

I kind of think FA is like me.

An emotional impulsive player and what she says/does may not always make sense. If she is posting the first thing that comes to her mind every 5 seconds she is probably town.

I can do it as scum so it's hard for me to see it as that simple.
Plus I'd think FA can be rational, I could misremembering since FA and Jeanne where a hydra in the game I modded.

MY FUCKING GOOD LORD SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL.OF YOU OR ILL FLOOD THE THREAD PREVENTING ANY POSTS LIKE I DID HALF AN HOUR STRAIGHT IN THE COUNT TO A THOUSAND MISH MASH

I lol'ed

Oh Jesus fuck farside you don't actually believe that?

My scumgame is basically devoid of emotion and I've seen similar from FA.

Her scum game she fakes emotion but it's clearly not as impulsive

You sure?
I ask only because all I see is how dare you and you are scum and lash out at being called scum for good reasons all while she makes things up.

[farside22]

No offense MOB, but do you think a wagon on rr didn't have scum in it?

I NEVER SAID IT DUDNT

SHOW ME WGERE I SAID THAT

FUCK ITS ESCALATED TO ALL CAPS TIME

FUCK ITS ESCALATED TO ALL CAPS TIME

PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

I laughed so hard I almost pee'd myself with this.
Thank you.

Anyways my point is FA hasn't looked at the wagon on rr and I swear she purposely misreprensting every post she can out of desperation.

[farside22]

Anyways my point is FA hasn't looked at the wagon on rr and I swear she purposely misreprensting every post she can out of desperation.

In some cases I don't disagree which is why my townread of her isn't firm yet.

Alright that's fair enough.
And because I maybe a bit emotional because FA's attitude I'm going to step back from her and vot my other scum read.

Vote: elbirn

[farside22]

Also master of bull I'd like to fuse/allign with you tonight if you don't mind.

[farside22]

@For those that want to continue the shitfest.


@Farside
Why is elibern a scum read again?

He lurks more as scum and his post so far read fake.

[farside22]

"She gave up everything just to stop what they started here and drive the invading Gems off of Earth."

-Greg,

The Return

VOTECOUNT 1.06

Frozen Angel (4):

Heartless, Errantparabola, 3dicerolling, farside22

3dicerolling (2):

wgeurts, Masters of Bull

farside22 (2):

Klingoncelt, Frozen Angel

Masters of Bull (1):

Jeanne11

Not Voting (4):

Reasonably Rational, Hiplop, Marquis, Elbirn

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-01-14 14:20:00)

Mod: I'm voting Elbirn

That was a nice thing to wake up to. Also, happy new year, now that we've all definitely passed the threshold of 2016.


Farside: I think MOB wanted to ally with us, but I'm not certain if there was a reason for us in particular.

For those asking about Drixx: He apparently has a bunch to catch up on, here and elsewhere. He'll be around after he's done so.

So, FA is town because of the speed of posting, essentially. Because it all appears to be stream of consciousness knee jerk reactions to things (as is evident above when she lashes out at frogger for AGREEING with her). Not sure about that particular reasoning but I'll buy it for the moment. Now, does that logic only apply to the "emotional" among us, or is it only town when she does it.

I also don't believe I ever saw any indication of wanting to keep things in RVS from FA. That's just a weird point you're making farside.

Anyways, did anyone have anything they wanted to talk to me about?

Pedit: well. That is interesting.

- Cerb

I saw MOB wanted that. I'm asking if they will allign with me, if they say no I'll pick someone else later then, maybe gerts.

[farside22]

That was a nice thing to wake up to. Also, happy new year, now that we've all definitely passed the threshold of 2016.


Farside: I think MOB wanted to ally with us, but I'm not certain if there was a reason for us in particular.

For those asking about Drixx: He apparently has a bunch to catch up on, here and elsewhere. He'll be around after he's done so.

So, FA is town because of the speed of posting, essentially. Because it all appears to be stream of consciousness knee jerk reactions to things (as is evident above when she lashes out at frogger for AGREEING with her). Not sure about that particular reasoning but I'll buy it for the moment. Now, does that logic only apply to the "emotional" among us, or is it only town when she does it.

I also don't believe I ever saw any indication of wanting to keep things in RVS from FA. That's just a weird point you're making farside.

Anyways, did anyone have anything they wanted to talk to me about?

Pedit: well. That is interesting.

- Cerb

I'd respond to this but I'm betting all you will get is spam from Jeanne and FA about how wrong I am even thought i quoted in in post 542 (somewhere around there) on why I say she was trying to keep the game in RVS.

[farside22]

I am off. You'd better not hammer me or FA while we're away.

When have I ever hammered my town reads?

I'd be tempted to do it and I've never done it before.
But again I'm just doing the game a favor at that point and helping it from becoming a shit feast of emotions.

[farside22]

I believe we just ended that, move on.

sure, vote elbirn with me.

[farside22]

"It's the mark of a great leader, knowing just what to keep hidden from everyone you're trying to protect."

-Pearl,

Rose's Scabbard

VOTECOUNT 1.02

Reasonably Rational (5):

wgeurts, Elbirn, 3dicerolling, Jeanne11, Frozen Angel

( 1 here, MAYBE 2, and it's not wgeurts or FA )

Probably 2 in the rest of the game.

farside22 (1):

Klingoncelt

Masters of Bull (1):

Heartless

Frozen Angel (1):

Masters of Bull

Not Voting (5):

Reasonably Rational, farside22, Errantparabola, Hiplop, Marquis

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-01-14 14:20:00)

If I had to pick using those parameters I've outlined (which are INCREDIBLY ARBITRARY), I would say Elbirn, Farside, and, eh fuck it, hiplop.

I'm pretty damn certain there is one on that first wagon on me though. Early on the wagon, thus Elbirn. That probably wasnt intended to become a situation where town could gain information, so likely no more than 1 there. Assuming standard is 3 scum, all three COULD be there, if it was deliberate, in which case everything flips, and FA/Jeanne/wgeurts/marquis are prime suspects.


And before you say anything, Jeanne, remember, you lost all your town credit related to that wagon cause you knew it wasn't a real lynch.

-Cerb

Things I won't miss while I'm gone.
Players that don't read my post.
Emotional roller coaster
hypocrisy
And the VI's

Things I'll miss when Farside is gone: One of my favorite players on-site ;_;

[farside22]

Also while I'm thinking and before I forget if hippy is scum I'm 99% sure 3dice isn't scum with him.
This is just based on what I know of hippy.

[farside22]

"It's the mark of a great leader, knowing just what to keep hidden from everyone you're trying to protect."

-Pearl,

Rose's Scabbard

VOTECOUNT 1.02

Reasonably Rational (5):

wgeurts, Elbirn, 3dicerolling, Jeanne11, Frozen Angel

( 1 here, MAYBE 2, and it's not wgeurts or FA )

Probably 2 in the rest of the game.

farside22 (1):

Klingoncelt

Masters of Bull (1):

Heartless

Frozen Angel (1):

Masters of Bull

Not Voting (5):

Reasonably Rational, farside22, Errantparabola, Hiplop, Marquis

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-01-14 14:20:00)

If I had to pick using those parameters I've outlined (which are INCREDIBLY ARBITRARY), I would say Elbirn, Farside, and, eh fuck it, hiplop.

I'm pretty damn certain there is one on that first wagon on me though. Early on the wagon, thus Elbirn. That probably wasnt intended to become a situation where town could gain information, so likely no more than 1 there. Assuming standard is 3 scum, all three COULD be there, if it was deliberate, in which case everything flips, and FA/Jeanne/wgeurts/marquis are prime suspects.


And before you say anything, Jeanne, remember, you lost all your town credit related to that wagon cause you knew it wasn't a real lynch.

-Cerb

Things I won't miss while I'm gone.

Players that don't read my post.

Emotional roller coaster
hypocrisy
And the VI's

Things I'll miss when Farside is gone: One of my favorite players on-site ;_;

You're not reading ours either.

I said I was ignoring your post.
For good reason too.
Which will go on and on again if you keep on the emotional why me mentality that has nothing to do with the actual game of mafia.

I'll miss you too Varsoon, but if you run another Steven Universe while I'm AWOL, I better get a PM letting me know about it, I may just squeeze in to play. Hopefully not because I really need to focus on some RL stuff.

The next Steven Universe game I run will represent Season 2 of Steven Universe; I won't be able to run it until Season 2 has finished airing. Until then, however, this setup could actually be run as an... open theme? It's basically Greater Idea but with far fewer role cards and some special mechanics.

[farside22]

Stoooooooop

Starts dancing

[farside22]

HEY
do i make faces at YOU when YOURE too drunk to control your own bowels

post of the game

FA, I answer you in 368.
I'm beginning to get less confident in my scumread on you so I'd like your response.
If you've already made the response, then please point me to it. Thanks.

geurts has made a couple posts emphasizing his own gambit
that makes me less confident in the gambit being town motivated for some reason

I actually don't think farside's reasons for FA being scum are good, but I've been skimming over them
I also don't like farside trying to grab towncred for "moving the game out of RVS" that's something anyone could do

NO I MOVED THE GAME OUT OF RVS

Jesus fuck who gives a shit.

+1

Skim more or say less idc which but that wasn't my point and I'm not going to repeat my point 5x over just to keep having it ignored.
Thanks.

[farside22]

Like he's completely setting himself up to vote with the crowd.
"I'm becoming less sure of bla bla but I'm not going to commit"
I'd be voting him but Elibern hasn't shown up yet

I missed that completely.

I'm also making a bet that the dynamic duo will cause scum to lurk more and no one will care.

[farside22]

Oh, so suddenly neither of us is scum? Mood swings are real in this one, yo.

Well either that or you'll be solely responsible for a town loss.
I'm good with both bets being placed

[farside22]

Klingon look what you have done!
You summoned the beast!

I'll chance subject if players didn't misrepresent a situation or 2 players stop spamming the thread.
Which one do you see happening anytime soon?

[farside22]

Elibern for anti-lurking or parabolas to buddy me.
Or if you want to start a nuclear holocaust vote FA and don't give any reasons.

Just to switch up thoughts for a moment I think a lot of players will skim the argument or Jeanne in general at this point.
Errants follow up is null because of those factors right now to me.

[farside22]

Elibern for anti-lurking or parabolas to buddy me.
Or if you want to start a nuclear holocaust vote FA and don't give any reasons.

Just to switch up thoughts for a moment I think a lot of players will skim the argument or Jeanne in general at this point.
Errants follow up is null because of those factors right now to me.

He literally listed three people and said he was waffeling on them and proceeded to disappear.

Not many else are posting to comment about.

[farside22]

Everyone knows
That farside is mafia
Everyone knows
That she is mafia

Do you get to appologies for being wrong, or do you stop posting finally.
Because if my lynch causes either of those things to happen I'd lynch myself to shut you up.

[farside22]

I don't care for the buddying from hippy and gerts isn't even voting for errant

[farside22]

Everyone knows
That farside is mafia
Everyone knows
That she is mafia

Do you get to appologies for being wrong, or do you stop posting finally.
Because if my lynch causes either of those things to happen I'd lynch myself to shut you up.

I will apologise to you if you apologise to FA.

No.
What I will do if you are both town is essential black list you both with this game as a reference as to why you two shouldn't play together and show that you play to not scum hunt at all tells me my point is more valid then your point about how to play this game.

[farside22]

13 players so 3 mafia doesn't seem that unlikely.
I'll try POE since i don't really have any strong cases to provide.
taking RR, MOB, and 3dice out of the scum POE
I'll take FA out, I think her response to my case was good.

hiplop, KC, marquis and Elbirn are the lurkers are not doing anything to solve game.
hiplop selling his vote means nothing to me. i don't see anythign town.
I dont see anything town of klingon.
elbirn's voting jeanne seems town motivate
agreed that marquis' reaction of the false hammer makes him lean town but i'm not just going to write him off as town for that.

but I'll take elbirn and marquis out too for a d1 lynch.

That leaves jeanne, far, wg, heart, kling, hip.
If I happen to be right on all of my townreads (which is not going to happen but for the purposes of POE I'll assume)
then
hip/kling/heart are the people doing nothing to solve the game
out of jeanne/far/wg
uhhh
VOTE: heartless
i don't think heartless's interaction with the Fa/jeanne helped town.
i still don't really have any scumreads but i narrowed it down i guess.

Why is elbirn off the table?

Wgeurts: If you're voting Elbirn, why is hiplop voting parabola the move to make to buddy you? I don't get that post.

-Cerb

Because I said I'd be voting him if not elibern

I think it's odd he's following that vote.

Someone tell me where to start because it feels almost like I've just replaced into a 30 pager.

ignore FA and Jeanne and magically the pages become about 10 pages total.

So I'm catching up, I've read through page 21. Here's some stuff enjoy.

That wagon was fast ... any serious reason anyone?

We're sheeps

VOTE: RR

yeah?!

VOTE: RR L1

For all the bitching about this, I 100% believe that FA would lolsheep her best friend Jeanne, given the context of them being homies and all. I don't see the issue here.

hearthless is just voting me because of my personality. Erra is the only one who actually has a reason to vote me! which he confessed is not strong! and I answered it.

No one is voting you for your personality and you pulling this kind of AtE is a pretty blatant misrepresentation of arguments against you.

Plus, you just rehashed what they said. Give explanation of your own for their reasoning instead of rehashing theirs.

Jeanne this doesn't make any sense. Wgeurts is explaining to you what other people think. He can't think their thoughts for them and then say them to you.

Jeanne11 - town (vi, but town)
Reasonably Rational (Drixx & Cerberus v666) - Im reading cerberus as town. I would like Drixx to pop in and give his views before this is a full town read.
Masters of Bull (Mastin2 & Fro99er)
wgeurts - town
Frozen Angel - scum
Elbirn - so far I'm reading elbirn as scum. He tends to lurk more as scum I noticed.
Heartless (Antihero & TellTaleHeart) - drunk anti makes me laugh. Other then that he is null. I want TTH in here to get a better read.
Marquis - leaning town
Errantparabola - leaning town
3dicerolling - gut says town but reading him there isn't really anything that screams anything but null
Klingoncelt - 1 post and nothing exciting.
Hiplop - leaning scum

1. What IS your read on Masters of Bull? You left them blank.
2. I disagree wittthhhhh your FA, Parabola, Dice and Hiplop reads. The rest is pretty solid excepttt
3. Your read on me is poopy. Dude games been open one day. New Years Eve. And it's been crapped upon by a Jeanne and FA noisefest. You'll forgive my lack of enthusiasm for the game yesterday.

Also now I can be on a laptop and be a multiquoting hotshot like right now.

VOTE: farside

VOTE: Farside your so damn good in misrepresenting. Call it OMGUS if you want. I only OMGUS who I think is scum
case on Dice still remains

Farside isn't scum and these votes are bad and reactionary. I don't think you guys have an honest reason for thinking she's scum beyond the fact that she's pushing FA.. :/

In fact, I'd much rather we did this!
VOTE: 3DiceRolling

MOB is a town read.
As for the rest, yes I know it is New Years, the drunk posting by Anti and my own celebrating tells me as much.
Why is 3dice a scum read for you?

Why is hippy a town read?

[farside22]

Don't just say you think frozen is scummy. It's taboo and will cause another 15 pages to appear overnight.
If you say she is scummy make a case and list all your "reasons" with elaborate explanation.

Reading her posts is like falling into a lake filled with Diet Cool Whip - zero calories, all fluff.

You want to ally/fuse with me tonight if MOB says no?

There are three scum thus game

so you do realise one of your town reads is off?

.....Pardon me?

"It's the mark of a great leader, knowing just what to keep hidden from everyone you're trying to protect."

-Pearl,

Rose's Scabbard

VOTECOUNT 1.02

Reasonably Rational (5):

wgeurts, Elbirn, 3dicerolling, Jeanne11, Frozen Angel

( 1 here, MAYBE 2, and it's not wgeurts or FA )

Probably 2 in the rest of the game.

farside22 (1):

Klingoncelt

Masters of Bull (1):

Heartless

Frozen Angel (1):

Masters of Bull

Not Voting (5):

Reasonably Rational, farside22, Errantparabola, Hiplop, Marquis

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-01-14 14:20:00)

If I had to pick using those parameters I've outlined (which are INCREDIBLY ARBITRARY), I would say Elbirn, Farside, and, eh fuck it, hiplop.

I'm pretty damn certain there is one on that first wagon on me though. Early on the wagon, thus Elbirn. That probably wasnt intended to become a situation where town could gain information, so likely no more than 1 there. Assuming standard is 3 scum, all three COULD be there, if it was deliberate, in which case everything flips, and FA/Jeanne/wgeurts/marquis are prime suspects.


And before you say anything, Jeanne, remember, you lost all your town credit related to that wagon cause you knew it wasn't a real lynch.

-Cerb

>encouraging early RVS wagons is scummy

Top Kek m8

YEAH, READ THIS POST BEFORE YOU START MOUTHING OF FURTHER

wagon on RR happened in RVS. It was clearly a reaction test which brought info about him and others in wagon + It made some info to get out of RVS

IT CLEARLY SAYS THE WAGON WASN'T TO STAY IN RVS BUT TO GET OUT OF IT, SO WHERE DID YOU GET THE FACT THAT SHE WANTED TO STAY IN RVS FROM?

I mean.
People can say things while intending otherwise. Stating something doesn't make you infallible.

Considering we need each other to activate our abilities, it's a given. Or did you skip the part about alliance/fusion?

You two know that you don't have to exclusively ally/fuse with each other yes?

Elibern you're in for a good read the next few pages, also why the dice vote?

That was a shit show.

1. I can't respond to any post in particular because there was an avalanche of this same exact sentiment: "There are lurkers and lurkers are bad." For some reason I've been picked as the prime lurker despite there being worse examples, but I digress. Because the point is the game's barely been open 24 hours, and was started on New Years Eve. Stop it. Stop it now, you're all dumb. There literally can't be anyone that is considered a lurker at this stage, go away.

2. Because it is there.

No but seriously I wanted to appease FA and also gut says it's not a bad idea.

---------

Catching up took so much of my time that now I must away to do other things, gj. Please don't make another 30 pages today. Thanks.

You people better come to your senses or I'll take a page from BBmolla's book and start calling you all fucktards.

Jeanne.
I come from a very nasty site. Sincere death threats are a daily thing there. Don't believe me? Ask SilverWolf.

For a while my sig was "Fuck yourself. In the eye. With a mangy, sore-covered, flea-infested rabid rat that's been infected with fire-AIDS.

Calling me a fucktard is water off a duck's back.

Just saying.

What I'm feeling so far:

Elbirn

- Town

Errantparabola

- Leaning Scum - a little impatient, seems to forget that players celebrate holidays, reads lists seems phony

Farside22

- Lean Town

Frozen Angel

- Scum - Too much fluffy, too little confident

Heartless

- Lean Town

Hiplop

- Null

Jeanne11

- Could be Scum with FA. Insisting that only an alliance/fusion with FA will get her mod confirmed is not possible, unless she's been talking to FA somewhere.

Marquis

- Null

Masters of Bull

- Null

Reasonably Rational

- Null

3dicerolling

- Null

Wgeurts

- Scum. How does he know that there are 3 Scums?

And I lost my train of thought on why I quoted this stuff.
Awesome.

[farside22]

Oh I remember one reason I quoted kling on her post for her reads.
I don't know if it's serious, the reads seem like a stretch so I going to retract my request to her.

[farside22]

I did ask you about why elbirn gets a free pass

[farside22]

Zzz.
Have I mentioned the hyper and untruthful comments being made doesn't help the game.
Just another FYI I've had 2 games where players claimed IC, one was mastin.
It wasn't true so I don't give credence to the claim especially since we had to pick our allignment and ability from one role pm.

[farside22]

Zzz.
Have I mentioned the hyper and untruthful comments being made doesn't help the game.
Just another FYI I've had 2 games where players claimed IC, one was mastin.
It wasn't true so I don't give credence to the claim especially since we had to pick our allignment and ability from one role pm.

you never read her gem claim did you? you didn't even tried to think about what is she claiming to be ...

Nope.
Don't care because I'm not voting her.
Acting like the world is against you and it's all about you is just grating on my last nerve to be blunt.

[farside22]

That'll only keep reaffirming their suspicions we're scum together.

You talking about kling?
You do realize so far no one agree's right?
Or do you just ignore all that?

[farside22]

You were against FA. She had 5 votes at one point, so don't pretend that you didn't vote her. Your voting her combined with her personality is what caused her to act like that. So you're at fault for voting her in the first place. Fyi, voting us causes us to flare up. Remember that.

I'm not voting her at this point.
I moved on, you should try to do the same.

[farside22]

Acting like the world is against you and it's all about you is just grating on my last nerve to be blunt.

Its not about You being AGAINST me. Its about you trying to show everyone that they must ignore me. When I have a case against you.

pedit : yes Jeanne lets stop this I'm dead don't shoot me please ... Your not the today lynch and that's obvious.

pedit again : The point is I'm not blind when I'm flared up and she is trying to show my posts contentless. that's Not ok

I'm not scum and your case sucked.

Again moving past you and ignoring you and Jeanne in my oppion is for my own sanity, which this conversation just proved.

Back to other players in the game. I said something about kling reads being scummy and hippy buddying.
I haven't moved my vote from elbirn because one post means nothing to me.

[farside22]

And what sanity? Need I remind you that in 799, you basically said you're okay with lynching an IC. That's no sanity.

I never said that.
And this is exactly why your not worth going back and reading anything you said.

[farside22]

Anyways back to this post from errant.
I wonder why null things read town.

13 players so 3 mafia doesn't seem that unlikely.
I'll try POE since i don't really have any strong cases to provide.
taking RR, MOB, and 3dice out of the scum POE
I'll take FA out, I think her response to my case was good.

hiplop, KC, marquis and Elbirn are the lurkers are not doing anything to solve game.
hiplop selling his vote means nothing to me. i don't see anythign town.
I dont see anything town of klingon.
elbirn's voting jeanne seems town motivate
agreed that marquis' reaction of the false hammer makes him lean town but i'm not just going to write him off as town for that.

but I'll take elbirn and marquis out too for a d1 lynch.

That leaves jeanne, far, wg, heart, kling, hip.
If I happen to be right on all of my townreads (which is not going to happen but for the purposes of POE I'll assume)
then
hip/kling/heart are the people doing nothing to solve the game
out of jeanne/far/wg
uhhh
VOTE: heartless
i don't think heartless's interaction with the Fa/jeanne helped town.
i still don't really have any scumreads but i narrowed it down i guess.

[farside22]

Zzz.
Have I mentioned the hyper and untruthful comments being made doesn't help the game.

Just another FYI I've had 2 games where players claimed IC, one was mastin.
It wasn't true so I don't give credence to the claim especially since we had to pick our allignment and ability from one role pm.

you never read her gem claim did you? you didn't even tried to think about what is she claiming to be ...

Yes, you did. The bolded is basically it. I bolded it so you can't slip it by.

That's me saying I doubt the claim.
Not okay with lynching you.

Also this will be my final response to you.

[farside22]

I'm not scum and your case sucked.

plus I must say that again my case is your WAY of misrepresenting what I told and no that's actually scummy. plus the advertisement of that everyone should ignoring me + I don't believe your way of starting the game as a town for 1 sec. that was an intentional town slip.

pedit : Farside You Can't ignore a player for being too emotional. You must go back and try to validate her points if your town. Whats wrong with you? Why your making it personal?

You can't prove that what I said is a lie.
I said my beef about all this before and why your comments make no sense.
This will be my last response to you.

[farside22]

Anyways back to this post from errant.
I wonder why null things read town.

13 players so 3 mafia doesn't seem that unlikely.
I'll try POE since i don't really have any strong cases to provide.
taking RR, MOB, and 3dice out of the scum POE
I'll take FA out, I think her response to my case was good.

hiplop, KC, marquis and Elbirn are the lurkers are not doing anything to solve game.
hiplop selling his vote means nothing to me. i don't see anythign town.
I dont see anything town of klingon.
elbirn's voting jeanne seems town motivate
agreed that marquis' reaction of the false hammer makes him lean town but i'm not just going to write him off as town for that.

but I'll take elbirn and marquis out too for a d1 lynch.

That leaves jeanne, far, wg, heart, kling, hip.
If I happen to be right on all of my townreads (which is not going to happen but for the purposes of POE I'll assume)
then
hip/kling/heart are the people doing nothing to solve the game
out of jeanne/far/wg
uhhh
VOTE: heartless
i don't think heartless's interaction with the Fa/jeanne helped town.
i still don't really have any scumreads but i narrowed it down i guess.

[farside22]

In regards to hippy he listed a few town reads but only buddy's up to gerts.
Also I noted his comments about 3dice like he wants to call him town but leaves him as null odd positioning.
Almost like to give himself an opening to vote him if needed.

I just read the thread butfriends coming over now

Quick check in

Town
Anti/heartless - duh. Knew from start. Idk why he didn't include me with marquis and mastin but it's whatever
CerbHydra- I have a natural bias to read verb as town I think, but this checks up mostly with previous games. Arguably the "reaction test" was super calm, minor points there.
Jeanne, probably? She hasn't done anything quite revealing yet (and honestly that's about as town as she can be in a game)
Wgeurts - don't think scum would put themselves that easily into a potential pool of scum-pickers


Null and in not sure why
Farside
Marquis
3dice - this feels like old three dice. Maybe I've only played with apathetic 3doce, but this seems like a deperature from pick your power big time where he was town.

Friend just arrived will continue in a few hours

I literally got kicked off the computer in the middle of that post lol

Honestly guys I haven't read enough to have any strong reads. Town reading wgeurts/trust him so that's why I proxied my vote to him for now

[farside22]

Farside, are you able to fuse?

Oh, I guess everyone can fuse.

Cool.

Farside, wanna fuse since RR doesn't?

Yes please.

[farside22]

FA: thank you. Can you please repeat the farside case?

1 - She made an intentional town slip in RVS
2 - She kept misrepresenting me while she was attacking me (like the point she said she proved that I wanted to stay in RVS or called me for sheeping Jeanne when i clearly said I'm voting her because of her misrepresentation)
3 - She started to advertise publicly ignoring me while I have some scum cases.
4 - She claimed that she won't sort Jeanne claim - that's just not towny is it? i mean She is casting doubt about the slot and claiming ignoring it at the same time. and calling me a hypocrite (!) ...

Hmm.

1) how do you know it was intentional? Is this the message thing you're talking about? Or something else?
2) yeah, I asked her about the whole RVS thing, didn't make sense to me either. I don't recall see any misrepresentation though more like interpreting your actions in a different way than you intended.
3) meh, this is null. The timing is a bit questionable, but ignoring you over what is a weak case seems unlikely. I would advise everyone to ignore both of your slots if I thought it would work to make the game easier to read, so I can easily see this being a coincidence in timing.
4) Not sure how we can sort Jeanne's claim? Or are you just talking about letting her do her IC thing? Not sure what to say about the second half there. Seems super subjective, I would need to go back through farside iso to see what's happening there.

Also, guys, in the discarded options, was there anything anyone discarded that could be used to prevent a fusion/alliance? For example, in the jaspers(based on the previous game)

I ask this because I feel the best thing to do at this point is to lynch the scummiest person, of couse, and have the second scummiest ally with Jeanne. We're now at a situation where we need Jeanne to successfully ally someone to prove her claim. The best way for scum to stop that is with an ability that stops fusing/allying, or by killing her claimed partner.

Jeanne, you need to specify if this IC thing is an alliance or fusion action, so whoever your partner is doesn't get it wrong and screw us up, and so if they do we know they're being anti town and we can lynch them.

Actually, I think we should claim what our discard did period. Any objections?

-Cerb

I discarded jasper because it hurts town in my view.
Do you think discussing the discarded cards help or only if it hurts the town should it be discussed?
I'm thinking the later but a lot of players discarded jasper which surprised me a bit since in thought there would be way more character choices.

[farside22]

Actual since I'm town reading gerts I'm not going to get into what Jaspers ability

[farside22]

Why?
I'm not Jasper
RR want to fuse on the terms neither of us vote without the others permission?

Because you orginally wanted to be scum.
I know what Jasper's ability is and it tells me a lot in my mind about you since you didn't pick it.

[farside22]

I did ask you about why elbirn gets a free pass

Free pass? That's not the case at all. He appears to be playing his Town game. I'm not seeing him doing anything scummy.

Elbirn is a problem for you?

Yes.

farside you don't wanna fuse with me?

Why would I want to fuse with a scum read?

farside you don't wanna fuse with me?

it's ok, farside's not speaking to me either.

i think it's b/c we're pieces of shit

Your not around to chat with.

[farside22]

Hi farside! ^_^/

I'm around and working on a post. Could you please restate where you stand on FA now? It's my understanding you're not voting her because you think the read might be tainted by emotions.

Leaning scum.
I have reasons but I'm not going to start another shit filled post moment.
Hippy and elbirn are scum reads.
Hippy has moved up my scum list for reasons stated and errant has moved up.

Vote: errant

What are your reads currently?

[farside22]

You said that Elbirn lurks as scum and that actually makes me think he chose town. If he puts more effort into his town games, he likely enjoys playing that alignment a lot more and is therefore more likely to choose it. What would be the sense in choosing scum if you knew you were just going to avoid posting and lurk more? Especially considering that we're coming off the distractions of the holidays, I think there's likely plausible alternative explanations for his absence (personally, I've been trying to get through Kingdom Hearts before I have to go back to school). I also don't think anything he's posted so far has stuck out as out of place to me either. Is there anything specific you have a problem with?

It's an early gut read most and

[REDACTED, please do not discuss/mention ongoing games if you can avoid it.]

As for the other many players I know don't post a lot as scum so his play is nothing that hasn't been done before

[farside22]

Right, but has it been done when players voluntarily choose their own alignment?

Last time I played a game you could pick your own allignment everyone was chatty even scum.
To be fair if I half thought about who was playing this game being scum would be easy.

[farside22]

Just going to say this reads fake to me.
TTH makes a ton of sense and FA still has this as a conclusion is why I still say she's scummy.
She picked scum
She still calls the message fake and yes that's the same fucking thing as calling it a lie.
Using other words doesn't change that fact.
Also this emotional tirade is after being called out yet again with the I'm taking my ball and going home mentality.

I ask to replace out

Jesus christ , this game. sorry jeanne I really can't continue arguing with this people.

They want to lynch me because of an Imaginary slip of mod . and someone who tried to show herself town with her first massage.

I never told these because Its not saying anything about my role - nor helping me with Farside case - and I never been asked directly.

Varsson said I can't hydra up with RC so yeah I replace out.

I DIRECTLY SAID I think being a later picker means nothing about alignment + When He explained the system?!

Good bye and have fun with your town reads.

[farside22]

I'm not repeating it.
FA is repeating herself.
Over
And
Over
And over

[farside22]

I'm just saying that FA's whole issue is something she can't prove and again not scummy.
I could have done it for reaction but her painting it as a fake slip to look town just reads desperate.
The fact she continues the tirade reads fake

[farside22]

Vote: FA

I'm not moving this time.

[farside22]

Again, can you confirm that mod sent you that message rather than just saying he did and expecting everyone to believe you?

Also, so much for 'this is my last response to you', you damn hypocrite. Don't like the fact that we don't believe you? Too bad.

1)FA claims to receive a message from the mod after she picked her role how unlikely is it I recieved a message?
2) fine I'll just vote FA then and watch you burn this game up till the mod relieves he should replace you for being a determent to this game.

[farside22]

And now I'm going to make my points against FA that shows she is clinging a desperate point and using her emotions to misreprent the situation.

1) I quoted where she said she thought I was lying.
She has continued saying she never did that but multiple post show that her words clearly say that.
2) is clinging to a thought process that it was a fake town slip.
If she picked scum late first of all how is it fake? She'd think as town maybe it's true since she picked scum.
3) she never asked when I picked my allignment so why does this I picked late stuff matter.

I'm fucking town reading some of the people in that wagon , not 3dicerolling. Elbirn is my only null here and I have a strong town read on everyone else for reasons I already told!

Stop fucking misrepresenting me.

I'm scum reading you and Dice if its not clear.

I accused you of lying and I said I won't buy your pre planned town slip! your test won't prove anything! you think scum will say he told us "get the crap out of here? why everyone is picking scum!?" no they will change it!

I think you did that to get a free town cred and sorry! I don't buying it.

1 ) The town slip was - I don't care if she lied about the mod massage or not. but that way of starting the game (by reaveling a mod massage) is definetly odd and intentional

2 ) ok call it however you want . It doesn't change the fact

3 ) ... ok I can see that alike that - if I wasn't I wouldn't unvote her.

4 ) I said there are literally clues in what she claimed! I found them I thought about them and I'm sure about her claim. You wanna recheck her Iso and find what I'm talking about.

@Jeanne I think that's an alliance right Jeanne? you said you want an Alliance with me if I recall it right.

The fuck I can't be out of the site for 10 min to make myself a tea?!

As I already said it in my wiki I prefer to be a mafia player as I think I'm better at that. In each mafia game of mine people called me obvtown so far, but in my town games - I'm always an oppurtunistic scum baddie who wants to manipulate with her ATE - your free to check meta. I think I need to work on my town meta

plus I was one of the late pickers in this game and I didn't got a mafia role. I was the one who was asking a lot of questions about Alliances and Fusions and forced Varsoon to put a FAQ in first post. Plus I asked several questions about that I can pick my alignment and role in any way I want and what my role actually means.

plus I need to go somewhere so I can't post till night - IF you can understand that.

Because he never gave me the same massage. Its stupid to think mod will reveal such info about the pickers. I was thinking it will happen randomly not base on the time of choosing to be mafia.

Plus I never said I think she lied about the massage. Starting game with revealing such a massage means she want to make a town slip. thats pretty scummy for me.

ha?!

Its not corroborating her story! I knew others picked mafia because I didn't got one if its what you mean but I knew she posted something incredibly unlikely to be a mod massage plus She used it to justify people. based on their time of picking mafia. whats wrong about so many mafia pickers before her?

pedit : and I'm getting vote for saying same thing about it? nice - Farside put a preplanned town slip there I don't believe it - no matter how hard you try.

Basically she is using my starting point as a scum read out of desperation because she picked scum and the mod sent me a message he shouldn't have.

[farside22]

VOTE: farside on the basis that she's trying to hamper the alliance, therefore hampering the validation of my claim.

You can fuse/allign with someone else.
Just because you don't isn't anyone's else fault but your own.

[farside22]

Just because you say you did doesn't mean you did. Unlike my claim, it's not confirmable. Not confirmable=not true

Nice of you to ignore the fact others said they recieved a message from the mod after they picked there role.
Your blindness and selfish behavior in this game is examples of why you should no longer play this game.

[farside22]

Well, when I said I would know if she's scum, I meant by my role, because

1. Scum love killing IC and she's the only one who fully believes me
2. I need an alliance to activate the power, so if I ally with her and it doesn't go through, that would mean she's scum because she requested fusion which doesn't give me IC powers, or that she didn't choose me, which basically means the same thing.

p-edit: None of them said they received the same message you did.

It proves I got a message from the mod Jeanne.
That's what you asked me to prove.
Proving the wording can't be done and you know that too.

Second I'm not going to keep a player alive to make you feel better about them if they are scum.
Friend or no friend, this is a game to find scum for me and lynch them.
Deal with it.

[farside22]

And are you still talking to me? Cut the crap and admit you don't like the fact that I don't agree with you.

No I don't like you as a player. There is a huge difference.
I can debate with anyone. Acting like an (some word in here I can't use) and holding the game hostage because you want to play with your friend isn't playing the game in my view and voting players because there voting your friend instead of scum hunting, isn't playing the game.

[farside22]

Aren't you a bit selfish too? You want to stay in this game even if it would hurt town, don't you?

p-edit: You said it yourself, this is the game to lynch who we think are scum. I think YOU are scum. Deal with it.

I'm not hurting the town.
I made a valid case with points.

I am not voting you just because of her, but because you don't want me confirmed. There is a difference.

You can confirm with anyone.
You can ignore that fact all you want but that's the truth.

[farside22]

True, but the rest of you hate my guts. Where is the proof that the rest of you won't try to hamper the reveal because you hate my guts?

Multiple players called you town.
Despite what people feel someone would still allign with you.

[farside22]

Now your just being irrational

[farside22]

I am irrational? You're pushing FA solely on the fact that she doesn't believe you without reservations.

No I'm not.
I'm showing that she grasping at a straw and calling it scummy.
There was no reason to do that from the start.

Whatever.

Answer this:

Even if FA is scum, there are multiple scum, so that someone else I align with could be scum also. How do I know they won't hamper my reveal once in the alliance with me, either because they're scum or because they hate my guts?

Your being irrational in regards to this statement.

[farside22]

Answer it, how do I know they won't hamper me once they align with me? Please answer.

How many scum do you think are in this game?
Seriously the odds are more likely to align/fuse with town then scum.
Secondly if FA is scum those odds increase into aligning with town.
So my question is why do you think it's all about you?

[farside22]

Yes, you essentially are, the way I see it. Just saying you aren't won't convince me otherwise.

I don't need to convince you.
Your not going to believe anything anyone says against FA.
That's again why I've essential find your play and style anti town.
But the mod won't listen to me mostly because scum could do what your doing.
Which is fine I'll wait till end game to discuss with moderation about this situation and show the game I modded on why your play hurts Mafia as a whole.

[farside22]

Yeah that case you made is awesome!

Zzzzzzz


So for those not personal involved and here to play Mafia.
As I showed FA has over reacted since my initial post which wasn't accusing her of being scum and has since blow up an idea that can't be proven.
And has since used the idea to do a made up scum read.

[farside22]

You want to chat with your friend and play a game, go to Mish Mash.
Otherwise all your doing is proving your not scum hunting.

[farside22]

Also while I'm thinking for a moment my question about the l-1 from FA was because in the game I modded she didn't do that during rvs
It struck me that she would do it here.
In that game Titus used the characters and questions to get out info and FA showed no suspicion of that.
This was why I said I found her to be more rational then what I've seen here.

[farside22]

You missed the point. I mean to say if you don't want emotions, go live on fucking island!!!!!

Your still not making a case and as far as I see the only reason your voting me is because I'm voting FA and making a case.
Which again just proves your not playing the game and not actual scum hunting.
I'm just marking this for end of game.

[farside22]

Oh dear lord this game

He'll Mob, vote FA.

[farside22]

Thanks bull.
Still want to get together night 1 for fuse/alliance?

[farside22]

Everttime FA comes back she is changing her story.
First off the points she had here are weak.
1) isn't rational and if you see the quotes bellow it's the one she argues against the most.
2) when I accused her of staying in rvs it was in a catch up post, which she noted herself after, and was in regards to her saying I was faking a town slip while having the face which I read as a joke.
3) isn't just me
4) who cares.
Hint no one.
The only thing she still calls scummy after saying it was null scummy for fake reasons was because she didn't get a message from the mod like that?
Why would you get a message about being worried about everyone picking scum, when she picked scum.
That's just nonsense.
She also with held that info so she could keep a weak case on me????
What?
No really that's not town.
Quotes in reference are bellow.

FA: thank you. Can you please repeat the farside case?

1 - She made an intentional town slip in RVS
2 - She kept misrepresenting me while she was attacking me (like the point she said she proved that I wanted to stay in RVS or called me for sheeping Jeanne when i clearly said I'm voting her because of her misrepresentation)
3 - She started to advertise publicly ignoring me while I have some scum cases.
4 - She claimed that she won't sort Jeanne claim - that's just not towny is it? i mean She is casting doubt about the slot and claiming ignoring it at the same time. and calling me a hypocrite (!) ...

Because he never gave me the same massage. Its stupid to think mod will reveal such info about the pickers. I was thinking it will happen randomly not base on the time of choosing to be mafia.

Plus I never said I think she lied about the massage. Starting game with revealing such a massage means she want to make a town slip. thats pretty scummy for me.

I ask to replace out

Jesus christ , this game. sorry jeanne I really can't continue arguing with this people.

They want to lynch me because of an Imaginary slip of mod . and someone who tried to show herself town with her first massage.

I never told these because Its not saying anything about my role - nor helping me with Farside case - and I never been asked directly.

Varsson said I can't hydra up with RC so yeah I replace out.

I DIRECTLY SAID I think being a later picker means nothing about alignment + When He explained the system?!

Good bye and have fun with your town reads.

ha?!

Its not corroborating her story! I knew others picked mafia because I didn't got one if its what you mean but I knew she posted something incredibly unlikely to be a mod massage plus She used it to justify people. based on their time of picking mafia. whats wrong about so many mafia pickers before her?

pedit : and I'm getting vote for saying same thing about it? nice - Farside put a preplanned town slip there I don't believe it - no matter how hard you try.

So I picked town and the mod sent me a note saying he was concerned everyone was going to pick scum for a moment.
My question for everyone else is why did you want to be scum this game?

She implied :

1 - that she picked town
2 - that she received a massage from mod
3 - that everyone else picked mafia first
4 - that she picked late - therefor mod said everyone else picked scum

she later claimed this took the game out of RVS - the only useful information in this post is that she town slipped - was it intentional ? Yes

My information suggests there are some other people who picked scum - not everybody else . Plus I'm not saying she is lying about mod massage. I'm saying its unprovable and it was literally a post for showing herself town.

pedit : ha?! whats a idiosyncratic detail ? she started the game with implying she is town and everyone else picked mafia - I explained why I think here

[farside22]

Back to ignoring Jeanne and FA

I kinda think Klingon is town just for their response to me. That and she is more engaged than I've seen her as scum, but that's a minor meta point.

Meh I feel null about her still.
I did laugh at a few of her post and fist pump one comment she made but in all nothing exciting has been said by her in my view

[farside22]

Back to ignoring Jeanne and FA

I kinda think Klingon is town just for their response to me. That and she is more engaged than I've seen her as scum, but that's a minor meta point.

Errant and hippy as scum make sense too so I'd vote there as well.
Just feeling stubborn currently.

[farside22]

Farside, the read list was pretty terrible and her point on Jeanne is a nonexistent point. The point on wguerts was sheeped and feels like something scum would latch on to.

Maybe I'm paranoid. But her reaction to my vote and her fiery-ness have me feeling town her because I rely way too much on meta sometimes.

Who are you talking about?

[farside22]

Farside, the read list was pretty terrible and her point on Jeanne is a nonexistent point. The point on wguerts was sheeped and feels like something scum would latch on to.

Maybe I'm paranoid. But her reaction to my vote and her fiery-ness have me feeling town her because I rely way too much on meta sometimes.

Who are you talking about?

Responding to you about kling

I've seen Klingon do bad list as scum.

Bleh I don't know what to think about FA I don't know if it's intentional misrepresenting or not.
Everything I know tells me to step back from this and I'm going to listen to that over everything else.

Vote: errant

[farside22]

Your behavior is unsportsmanlike and, in my opinion, bordering on ban worthy.

I'm pretty sure this is in regards to Jeanne.
Believe me I have a bunch of stuff on hold for this when the game is over.

Let's move on

[farside22]

Hey Gerts let's move onto errant.
I can tell you aren't scum reading FA

[farside22]

Jeanne my fusion ability specifically let's us use our alliance abilities and our fusion ones if in fusion.

Really?
That's interesting.



Ruby?
If so I'm having a chat it's game with the mod.

[farside22]

I'm sure she is town too at this point.
I'm sticking with errant or hippy for now as my main scum reads.

[farside22]

Okay I may have lied.
Let me explain myself.
I'm Ruby and the alliance abilities in Fusion is true, the immunity stuff is complete crumpets.
Why would I do this?
Well, for one I was willing to do anything to silence the ongoing noise that was saturating the thread. I had to convince Jeanne to do so.
Secondly I knew that if Jeanne ever did Ally with me the chances of mafia killing one of us was high. I tried a gambit to avoid this yes.
Is this abnormal for me as town? Lol no.
Ask RR.

Silly question to respond to post game.
Why did you pick ruby over jasper?
I think I can imagine why but I'm curious about you mentality as a player.

[farside22]

Does anyone else think it's weird that Farside said "you can't prove that the mod sent that message"

instead of arguing that he did send the message?

I was asked to prove a message I said I recieved.

[farside22]

Farside
I just realised that if we fuse both of us could sow some mental chaos tommorow.

Farside would you like to fuse so that we can waggle a broken mechanic in varsoon's face if you are the same role I am?

That would be hysterical but I have a soft soft for MOB because they made me feel sane.
RC last few pages makes me want to fuse with him as well.
Stick with RC I say and if we live another day fuse together night 2.

[farside22]

Farside would you like to fuse so that we can waggle a broken mechanic in varsoon's face if you are the same role I am?

:/

RR rejected me and now you're trying to steal Far from me

Your stuck with me so don't worry

[farside22]

I sent the mod a pm.
Just saying that

[farside22]

Also Jeanne whole scum read is still invested in something that was done in rvs and I don't see her moving past that, which is a huge scum tell in my book

[farside22]

Also Jeanne whole scum read is still invested in something that was done in rvs and I don't see her moving past that, which is a huge scum tell in my book

if you mean me you can See That I'm Past That In My Catch up post in Two Last Pages...

And I have Other Scum reads and I'm not even voting you

You were Claiming that post wasn'T RVS ........ And Its a valid point to talk about ... What changed?

Yes you.
Obviously.
Your still harping on the same stuff, which I explained later and you didn't touch on.

[farside22]

Did anyone notice that we tried to pressure FA and this random 3dice counterwagon popped up out of nowhere?

Yes.
I have a question that will come across pretty badly but there is no nice way to ask
in your oppinion of FA is it typical for her to forget what she posted and use different wording but when some says your saying X is scum but she didn't use those exact words but it's essentially means the same fucking thing that she gets defensive?

[farside22]

This is recent.

Hip and marquis

both of whom youre also scumreading :/

read my post - both are lurkers - both are null - slightly scum leaning....

and really? my dice case is not even close to my marquis case. Dice is a sure scum read of mine.

This was the post heartless is referencing.

my scum reads :

Farside : scum lean - for faking a mod massage (I can say this becuase I now have mod confirmation - I didn't saw his answer last time)

Kling :very scum lean - worst posting

Hip : lurking might be devilish scum under fog

Marquis : lurking as well ^ same (his paranoia in first pages might make him more townish)

RR : slight scum lean I pointed out why in my catchup post

and more importantly : Dice

VOTE: Dice

I just see her constantly talking around people when called out

[farside22]

show me that.

I have more then the quoted as an example but I'm currently at work.
But everttime I show something or some else as she gets defensive and changes her wording and frankly it just keeps happening to the point it's beyond scummy.

[farside22]

I'd pick pGo as scum not as town.

[farside22]

Did anyone notice that we tried to pressure FA and this random 3dice counterwagon popped up out of nowhere?

*burps*
Yup

Let's help hiplop bus.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: 3DiceRolling

...what...?

Hiplop and 3dice are both scum. Let's see what happens with this flashwagon, it'll be an adventure!

I'd say hippy errant more likely but 3D isn't exciting me as a player

[farside22]

I can personally confirm that I have not given any scummers a massage

LOL MOD ANSWER COMING IN ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SEE?
[...]

post 1261 : MOD COnfirmed He never gave farside any massage. IS IT DUMB yet?

Hey I'm like 6 pages back still, so idk if this was even addressed. But I'm addressing it.

What you're seeing there is Varsoon making a joke of your misspelling of the word message.

Message: a verbal, written, or recorded communication sent to or left for a recipient

Massage: the rubbing and kneading of muscles and joints of the body with the hands, especially to relieve tension or pain.

So
Varsoon may still have given farside message, he's just making a joke and saying that he hasn't given anyone a rubdown xD

FA, curious what is your first language?

I totally missed that misspell.


I'm sure FA will ignore that fact and continue pushing her crappy point.

[farside22]

farside's my only certain townread I think.

Damn fucking straight.

You want to vote hippy?
Errant?
Let me know.

[farside22]

farside's my only certain townread I think.

Damn fucking straight.

You want to vote hippy?
Errant?
Let me know.

Wondering why you aren't big on the FA wagon anymore.

Errant interests me a bit more than Hiplop but I could use a case to see what you see in him.

Any interest in fusing?

Not sure if you're TRing my slot but it'll be your night action and I'm willing to play voteless for you tomorrow if I make it and theres trust issues.

Who are you townreading?

FA is on my list.
I just keeping smacking my head against a way in regards to her.
Town reading your slot.
Gerts.
Guts says 3D is town but it's hard to explain.
Marquis was a town read.
Mob is a town read, the buddying bugged me a bit but not enough to worry yet.
I think elbirn is town but for some reason it's not agreeing with my gut it's more just mental note.
I'm null on heartless
I'm going to allign/fuse with mob tonight.

[farside22]

oh this is interesting

hey far why am i a townread

Early stuff.
More thoughtful in the beginning then you typically can be when you are scum.

Why not fuse D:

Can you explain your reads on Heartless / EP?

Anti had lots of drunk posting from the start. My concern with the duo is that there main push is on FA only.
In regards to EP.
Read gerts point here
weird reads from EP
Lots of lurking from him too

as for fusing tonight I told Mob I'd fuse with them
my experience with mastin will give me a better read of the spot for sure

[farside22]

On a personal level is feel 95% better about FA as a player if she is scum this game

[farside22]

Want to vote her?

Sure, just don't forget hippy or errant if I die.

Vote: FA

[farside22]

mastin went along w picking town
no way

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THAT I PREFER SCUM WHEN I HAVE MANY TIMES EXPRESSED MY SATISFACTION WITH INORGANIC CHEMISTRY.

Your hydra name just screams I love being scum.

Reading mastin post I'm null.
I think town but for weird reasons.

[farside22]

Roses are red, violets are blue
I am town, are you?
VOTE: Klingoncelt
For killing me last game
Even if things don't stay the same

Probably scum.

Jeanne, me and RR are masons and you are going to listen to us this time aren't ya?
VOTE: RR
Because that's what (my completely real) mason partner is for

Probably town.

So I picked town and the mod sent me a note saying he was concerned everyone was going to pick scum for a moment.
My question for everyone else is why did you want to be scum this game?

Definitely town, though I have to ask: at about what time did this happen?

VOTE: masters of bull
youre not convincing me those two chucklefucks didnt pick scum

Yo.
Anti.
My scumgame is solid. I proved I'm a competent scum player in Inorganic Chemistry.
I don't need another scumgame to show I'm good, that one was enough. It was also recent enough to still be valid meta.
I mean, if this game took place half a year from now, I'd definitely be entertaining the possibility.
But seriously.
I literally JUST played scum. Inorganic Chemistry was, what? My second-to-last completed game? (Well, solo anyway.) With FF7 as my last-completed game? (Oh. I guess you can put SC's game there, too.)

Contrast: towngames of mine. What have I done in my towngames that has been great? Absolutely nothing. They've sucked. So darn right I'd pick town. I've got nothing to prove as scum; I've got EVERYTHING to prove as town.
(Also, town.)

Dec 28 around 7:00am.

[farside22]

Its like there are 66 pages people shothing "Your scum" to me and 66 pages I'm answering "I'm town"

Very nice scum hunting people ...

Saying it doesn't make it true.
Also lurking is a null tell. Unless you know the player lurks more as scum.

[farside22]

There's a case I'm just not giving one again

[farside22]

Early stuff.
More thoughtful in the beginning then you typically can be when you are scum.

oh LOL no way VOTE: farside

I did literally nothing early game other than coming back to what I thought was a hammer and making like 3 alliance posts that I'm pretty sure you KNOW I very much would have the capacity to fake as scum.

what I'm wondering here is after months of town games in which you absolutely refuse to trust me, even when I'm on form and interested from the start, why you're so ready to label me as town when I've lurked and done barely anything

and you don't have to answer it because I don't think it's something you're aware of or something you'd have experience as scum yet trying to avoid with me

fa is town tho guys

That's nice.
Idc and if that's all your going to contribute this game I'll just ignore you then.

[farside22]

and that was an intentional town slip no matter what you say so I won't town read her for that mod massage even if mod send her something similar ...

Wash, rinse, repeat, and ignoring every fact in the world.
Nothing town at all about FA.
Already showed meta on this that got ignored by her too.

Which is why I'm voting by the way.

[farside22]

Marquis - tell me how farside knew that so many people picked scum if she's scum?

How many people chose scums?!

please list them for me. its me and wagurats and you how claimed it if I'm recalling it right ...

you
Wguerts
RR
Errant Parabola

that I know of.

I thought marquis said he did too.
Elbirn, you, me and Jeanne all claimed to pick town.
I don't recall heartless response or kling or hippy

[farside22]

(i picked scum and didn't get scum even though that's mostly why i joined so antitth is pretty much conftown at this point)

Yup he did say something here.

[farside22]

ok so we're lynching farside

Nope.
No one will agree except scum FA with you either, but have fun there.

[farside22]

and that was an intentional town slip no matter what you say so I won't town read her for that mod massage even if mod send her something similar ...

Wash, rinse, repeat, and ignoring every fact in the world.
Nothing town at all about FA.
Already showed meta on this that got ignored by her too.

Which is why I'm voting by the way.

You said mode gave you a massage or not? [yes]
You said you chose town or not ? [yes]
You used the mod massage to imply your town or not?

YES

that was a town slip and I can't beleive that wasn't intentional so You have my slight scum lean

Yes also many people said they recieved a message after they picked there role so your whole point about being fake is invalid.
I chose town and said why.
I use the message to scum hunt which I said earlier in the game.

[farside22]

Serious question if FA can give a straight response.
How would I know that more people picked scum over town and why would I have that info if not from th mod?

[farside22]

What was the result of scum hunt farside?

Let's see I called you scum because of your reaction, gerts town, Jeanne town, RR was questionable at the time

[farside22]

fa vote farside

whats your case on her ?

He doesn't like my reasons for town reading him.

I'll get to everything else later

[farside22]

Hip's vote is by far the worst.
Errants vote on kling is odd.
Elbirn why are you willing to vote FA?

RR is starting to ping me and I'm not sure why.

[farside22]

I told mob that rr read scummy because the arguement at the end of day 2 reads pretty fake

[farside22]

So hippy what are your current scum reads at and why?

[farside22]

Im just going to out line my reason for scum reading RR.
He defends FA here.

That was a nice thing to wake up to. Also, happy new year, now that we've all definitely passed the threshold of 2016.


Farside: I think MOB wanted to ally with us, but I'm not certain if there was a reason for us in particular.

For those asking about Drixx: He apparently has a bunch to catch up on, here and elsewhere. He'll be around after he's done so.

So, FA is town because of the speed of posting, essentially. Because it all appears to be stream of consciousness knee jerk reactions to things (as is evident above when she lashes out at frogger for AGREEING with her). Not sure about that particular reasoning but I'll buy it for the moment. Now, does that logic only apply to the "emotional" among us, or is it only town when she does it.

I also don't believe I ever saw any indication of wanting to keep things in RVS from FA. That's just a weird point you're making farside.

Anyways, did anyone have anything they wanted to talk to me about?

Pedit: well. That is interesting.

- Cerb

When looking at the wagon on himself FA isn't mentioned as scum even though she asked about the wagon on him and the joined it.

"It's the mark of a great leader, knowing just what to keep hidden from everyone you're trying to protect."

-Pearl,

Rose's Scabbard

VOTECOUNT 1.02

Reasonably Rational (5):

wgeurts, Elbirn, 3dicerolling, Jeanne11, Frozen Angel

( 1 here, MAYBE 2, and it's not wgeurts or FA )

Probably 2 in the rest of the game.

farside22 (1):

Klingoncelt

Masters of Bull (1):

Heartless

Frozen Angel (1):

Masters of Bull

Not Voting (5):

Reasonably Rational, farside22, Errantparabola, Hiplop, Marquis

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-01-14 14:20:00)

If I had to pick using those parameters I've outlined (which are INCREDIBLY ARBITRARY), I would say Elbirn, Farside, and, eh fuck it, hiplop.

I'm pretty damn certain there is one on that first wagon on me though. Early on the wagon, thus Elbirn. That probably wasnt intended to become a situation where town could gain information, so likely no more than 1 there. Assuming standard is 3 scum, all three COULD be there, if it was deliberate, in which case everything flips, and FA/Jeanne/wgeurts/marquis are prime suspects.


And before you say anything, Jeanne, remember, you lost all your town credit related to that wagon cause you knew it wasn't a real lynch.

-Cerb

Finally this whole arguement with RC is beyond dumb for a player that last game was going to be confirmed town via the mod and this build up and argument reads fake because of that.

Besides, Jeanne just in terms of readability is like super easy to read. Her scum game is a colossal joke.

Everyone in this game knows that she's town. Why don't you?

I KNOW nothing until the mod tells me about it. I agree it is highly improbable that Jeanne would be scum in the current situation, but I don't just assume you're not lying until I see proof.

So, to answer your question, because I'm not an idiot who assumes things.

What benefits of fusing do you think exist? I feel like you just told us things you *shouldn't* have told us, because nothing about fusing bolsters either party naturally, without a role influencing it, as far as I can see. Maybe I missed something...but you're not making sense right now.

-cerb

[farside22]

I'm going to wait.
I'd appreciate no quick votes since I didn't get a chance to fuse with anyone today.

[farside22]

And Farside, wtf?

Didn't we decide that you were the one using your night action?

Funny story I did use the action but if mob used it on someone else the action fails.
Also fun fact I told mob I was busy the day the game opened and was waiting before voting.
Why they only informed about the waiting and not about being busy is a peeve right now.
They didn't wait for me to say anything about what is best to do

[farside22]

Farside, me & you together tomorrow?

Yes please.
Fuse or ally?
By the by hippy is my number 1 scum read.
I'll explain more when I get home.

[farside22]

You scum this game.

sure how you concluded that?

interesting
would like to see farside response
this confidence and correctly pegging scum make suspicious
waching you closely you

There is a load of reasons for that read.

Didn't Varsoon make it clear that if two actions were used both parties are informed of the disharmonious fusion?

I don't remember

[farside22]

Varsoon just sent the pm about the fusion fail.

[farside22]

Varsoon just sent the pm about the fusion fail.

Is fusion or alliance better for your night ability?

Me?
Fuse for sure.

[farside22]

I mean I don't even see the point in making a case.

In no manner whatsoever is it acceptable play to try to vig the IC.

If MoB is town that's going to be a legitimate playing against wincon thing.

I agree damn it but just give me 2 hours.

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I want to vote Elbirn.

I'll talk with farside.

Not my fault Mastin hammered RR.

I was scum reading RR and Elbirn.

I didn't vote Elbirn because I was in a fucking fusion with Farside and that would move both our votes.

That doesn't explain why you hammer voted RR before I could say anything more.

A few questions to you.
Why did you act like I was around when I said I was going to be busy that night you hammered and why did you not wait till everyone claimed an alliance or fusion?
Who are you with for day 3 and why?

Also and finally why would you shot a player whether anti town or not that can confirm themselves as town?

[farside22]

RC: can you find out for sure if Amathysts could do what mob is saying.
I see Jeannie didn't pick that role and I find it curious.

[farside22]

Last post for tonight.
1) the child and hubby requested my presence tonight so my reason for scum reading hippy are on hold till Thursday (aka tomorrow)
2) kling is another suspect of mine so I'm not ready to vote mob just yet here, especially if the ability can be confirmed via RC.
3) waiting for the replacement to catch up would be awesome.

Night, night

[farside22]

If all your going to do is bitch and whine frogger then get mastin in here to explain how the fuck she didn't know it would be a faking hammer

[farside22]

If all your going to do is bitch and whine frogger then get mastin in here to explain how the fuck she didn't know it would be a

faking

fucking hammer

[farside22]

Please stay inside of your hydra.

Thank you!

Now I seriously need to go

[farside22]

I would be down for a hiplop or klingon lynch.

This is were I'm at, just read hippy's iso and then ask where the hell did that scum read come from.
Kling's vote read opportunitic and she is way too quiet for this game.

Farside, I need some with you from reads on people outside of Hop/Elb.

Sure, let's lynch hippy and save me from making a case.


Hmmmmm something caught my attention and made me vomit in my mouth where I'm voting now.

Vote: hippy

Not moving this by the by.

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Just an FYI in the pt with mob day 2 they said they were planning on vig RC, which I disagreed with (not said because day was over by the time I read it) so I submitted a shot on hippy.
Personally I was hoping they wouldn't use the ability and the vig ability was usable for me alone

[farside22]

Priority for protectives should be Farside tonight.

We'll fuse up.

I'm not townreading Hiplop but I want to spend more time forcing the other slots to talk today. Mind unvoting and helping me pressure them?

Marquis was replaced by the new guy and I like him so far.

[farside22]

Oh, so you're Amethyst too?

No.

Long story short I asked the mod if I get to use the ability that mob told me they had night 2, he said I could use it but if they pick someone else the ability would fail

[farside22]

Basically my character gets 2 votes and when fused I get the other players fuse and allign ability as well

[farside22]

Oh, so you mean that you're allowed to use their ability for them?

If that player doesn't use it, yes.

[farside22]

Huh.

So you'd be able to modconfirm yourself as town?

I'm assuming I can given day 2.
That's why I want to fuse with you.

[farside22]

Well I don't actually have a fusion ability per se; so I'm not sure if we should be fusing then.

Do you agree?

Oh come on 2 mod confirmed players!
Scum will finally kill me.
Yahhhh!!!

[farside22]

Yeah I'm 100% not changing my vote now.

[farside22]

Wait, Farside do you know for a fact that they're Amethyst based on your role?

Nope, that why I asked you if you knew what amethyst abilities were.
If not can you please ask the mod to send you the orginal choices?

[farside22]

Total scum vibes from this post

[farside22]

I know what amethyst is.

What I mean is, do you know for sure that they have a night kill as their fusion ability?

Well I sent the pm saying I wanted to shot hippy and I was told today that my action failed.
I don't know how strict varsoon is with wording for night action.
I'm willing to let them confirm themselves as long as they don't shot confirmed or trying to confirm themself players.

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RC: no offense you don't need to repeat yourself over and over, please stop doing that.

[farside22]

You were told that your action failed or were you told it failed due to disharmonious bla bla bla.

How were you told what your fusion ability was with the fusion?

I was told it failed do to choosing a different action.
This disharious.
I wasn't told by the mod what my fusion ability was. Mob told me what his ability was.

But my question isn't being answered :\

I'm not ignoring you I'm responding to other things while you are posting.

[farside22]

Total scum vibes from this post

Boooo

Bad elbirn.
Sooooo bad.
Tons of accurate reads = town.
Are you high, dumb or scum?

[farside22]

Oh btw this

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Koggz

You want to crawl up RC's ass more and I'll be happy to call you out on it.

[farside22]

So, that makes MoB not confirmed town without him shooting someone.

Oh well.

Yeah and as long as that is how the character works I'm up for letting them confirm themself.

[farside22]

Just an FYI in the pt with mob day 2 they said they were planning on vig RC, which I disagreed with (not said because day was over by the time I read it) so I submitted a shot on hippy.
Personally I was hoping they wouldn't use the ability and the vig ability was usable for me alone

Just pls tell me you were as absolutely dumbfounded by that as I was hearing it today.

I thought they were nuts.
But I remind myself from time to time people tend to overthink things in a game and sometimes that leads to bad choices and bad reads.

What did you think of elbirn' post about hippy? I saw many gaps in logic

[farside22]

I don't think you're able to copy my thing though Farside.

Maybe we should see other people?

No

Can Hiplop publicly role claim please?

amathyst

Who did you fuse with day 2?

[farside22]

I wanted to fuse with Mob because of something he said earlier, but guess that didn't happen...

Why pick a player that stated in bold they were fusing with someone else?

The rest of my quotes below is why I'm scum reading hippy.
The vote on RR is weak and later he forgives RR for the attitude???
When is attitude worth voting is never explained.
Scum read on mob because they scum read him, all those post read as panic scum.
Finally more suspicion about mob even after liking there points.
Many times of liking elbirn with no reason explained.
Finally if you read hippy's ISO not once is he trying to figure players out.
He ask more questions when he's town.

What about my vote was bad, mob?

you let both myself and wguerts convince you to put a vote somewhere D1.

I basically talked you into voting FA, and then you did.

excuse me? Fuck that.

VOTE: MOB

Vying for an easy lynch on me today. You didn't talk me into it AT ALL. That is a blatant misrep. Yes, I proxied my vote to wgeurts for a while, but I corrected it and came to FA conclusion myself. Get the fuck outta here with that.

This is scum trying to kick me while I'm down.

Farside, my scumreads are MOB and Reasonably rational. I initially thought 3dice, but the flip of FA makes me not so sure.

pedit: I am okay with reasonably, I can definitely see what you mean by the coaching aspect.

So yeah ... first let me just laugh at RC for a bit: {Drixx laughs for several minutes. Sincere belly laughs here folks}. I'm going to enjoy watching you flail around and try to explain how we were coaching scum when we're town. I am so looking forward to the post game when I can rub your nose all over how terrible you are ... like a little puppy who shits all over the rug. Just rube your nose right in it. Might help with your gigantic fucking ego. Congratulations; you actually are so unfun to play with that I will be happy to be killed out of a Varsoon game.. That might be the most legendary level of achievement anyone has ever reached. Before you replaced into this game, I would have said that there was nothing in existence that would make me want to not be in a Varsoon game.

this is like, hella douchey and scummy.

Yes, my day one play was shit, but it was not how you describe it.

Your right, it's worse IMO.

I'm aware. I'm not a total shit player, I got overwhelmed. I'm here full time. I did the best I could given the fact I couldn't read the thread. I put my vote in someone I trusted, it worked out.

MoB is trying to capitalize on that before I have a chance to explain myself.

3dice, explain the elbirn? I actually am town reading that slot (a little less than you, but like midrange?)

We are amused that he thinks what Drixx said is worse than what he said to Drixx, and that he somehow feels Drixx was more toxic than the way many other players regularly play without any repercussion being taken against them

this is the condescending stuff. You're amused...?

DRIXX, I'm worlds #1 kuribo fan and you're being much worse than he ever is right now

I'm not comparing you and rc, y'all both need to step off but like cmon guys get along. Drixx you're baiting RC, RC, you're falling for his bait

VOTE: rr

the IC doubt is certainly of a scum mindset, and this is just not the regular drixx im used to. Logically, scum.

owed Katsuki faked a daycop at least four prior times, that Glork had never put a daycop in a game ever, and you still defended Katsuki's daycop claim while you were town.

So why are you throwing shade all over RC's claim when it's far more believable and potentially provable compared to Katsuki's claim

Yea, this is damn good reasoning. Drixx isn't someone to discount a plan like RC's, at all.

Either he just loathes RC or this is scum drixx

cerb is kinda weird too? Not as nice as I'd like, either

bye cerb I forgive you for being not nice!!!

I would be down for a hiplop or klingon lynch.

we're in a fusion

Mastin, why? this isnt my scum game

how did i react

pedit: I want to vote MoB if they don't actually replace out. This could ez be a gambit

I'm thinking about elbirn

Honestly idk man. Don't think hes scum as much as mob

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Actually.
Here's an idea.
-Lynch Errantparabola.
-I fuse with Elbirn. hiplop fuses with Klingoncelt.
-Tomorrow we lynch Koggz.
-During the night, I vig Klingoncelt.
-hiplop vigs Elbirn.

Do we have the numbers to pull this off?

I had a knee jerk dislike of any plan that involves me being dead

But if this results in a world where the living players are you, hiplop, and rc, and you're all conftown, then yeah that makes sense..?

Who else has seen the amethyst Rolecard and can vouch for what it does? If you're town it's a vig, if you're scum it's a strongman....isn't a strongman also a kill?

RC confirmed this already and no strongman doesn't mean vig ability for scum.

[farside22]

Tell you what I'll do a game break strategy here and anyone who disagrees needs to explain why not.

Lynch kling or elbirn today.
Mastin can you kill tonight?
If so kill whoever of the 2 we don't lynch, I trust you more then hippy.
Hippy you can shot into the unconfirmed of EP or marquis replacement name here.

Town wins as long as mastin and hippy aren't lying.
I will fuse with RC tonight and can confirm myself tomorrow.
Any questions?

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I forgot about 3D in my game breaking thought but he's a town read for me.

[farside22]

Yes. Question. What happens if mastin and hippy are lying? I know it's not the most likely scenario that MOB and hiplop are partners and both lying about their roles to corroborate each others' stories, but from what I see there's nothing discrediting that possibility.

How does that win them the game.
RC who is confirmed town verified what the role does.

Yes. Question. What happens if mastin and hippy are lying? I know it's not the most likely scenario that MOB and hiplop are partners and both lying about their roles to corroborate each others' stories, but from what I see there's nothing discrediting that possibility.

Tbh I didn't even see mob claim what amathyst did I just had a feeling

I understand that from your point of view there are things that prove your role
But is there anything outside of you two that indicates that town-amethyst is vig?

And also the whole "if there are 3 kills" thing seems REALLY fishy to me. As long as we are committing vig kills right now (which I never feel comfortable with) then scum can manipulate the kills.

See above.

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Got any questions for me, RC?
I've decided to iso farside when I find some time because currently I'm just sheeping RC's townread.

This is desperate.


Still want kling in here......lets motivate her more.

Vote: kling

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Oh. Shit. Jeanne discarded amethyst. Yeah disregard literally everything I said recently
I need to think. I'm not bringing my a game right now and I need to.
Give me time.
Farside, do you think I'm scum?

Your low on my scum list.
Mine is more in the reads like this.
Kling/elbirn/hippy
Your in the not thrilled with category but I don't see your scum game here like I caught onto our last game together.

[farside22]

Farside, where are you at on Elbirn and ErrantParabola and Koggz?

Elbirn scum
EP null town
Koggz leaning town.

Nothing said so far has changed except EP moved closer to a town read.
Kling is scum read for sure.

[farside22]

Just an FYI saying your too sick to play while posting a ton of shit on MS is just as good as confirmed scum in my mind

[farside22]

I got work today so in case someone gets vote happy.
RC still want to fuse with you.

[farside22]

I'm somewhat OK with Klingon right now.

Not positive but I'm definitely leaning towards the town side.

Why.
I'm not being cute or anything but she is blanetly lying and doing shit for scum hunting.

[farside22]

IDK Ep/Koggz/Elb are my big 3 foses right now.

EP and Elb come and go, Koggz is always for me.

I won't follow you onto anyone but elbirn.

Also can't I just wifom with scum about if the ability works that way so I can die tonight?

[farside22]

It's not a strong read, but I'm not voting her without more content.

Also can't I just wifom with scum about if the ability works that way so I can die tonight?

If that was the case, wouldn't the correct play be to just lie and say you've already been told by the mod that it'll work?

I thought about doing that but you said you were going to ask the mod and I didn't want to fight because I felt like fucking with the scum team.

Sigh.

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Thanks for the game varsoon.
Thank you scum for killing me like I asked.
RC much better game from my prespective this game. I think you played IC well.
Sorry frogger this game got to you.
I'm sorry to kling for the misunderstanding about you being sick.

Gg.