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[Thestatusquo]

I loved eggs.

That deck was awesome.

There is a vocal group of people that freaks out anytime magic is more interesting than HERP DERP I PLAY MY 4 DROP CREATURE AND YOU PLAY YOUR REMOVAL SPELL THEN YOU PLAY YOUR 4 DROP CREATURE WHICH IS THE SAME THING BUT IN DIFFERENT COLORS. HERP DERP.

Eggs was a victim of that vocal group. Fuck those guys, they're the reason magic is now terrible and there is literally only one deck legal in standard, just 10 different versions playing different colors trying to execute the same boring creature midrange strategy.

[Shanba]

Which is why legacy is a wildly better format imo.

I loved eggs too. What a cool deck - it just sort of grew and grew and grew and then everything exploded. I've even messed around with the version that Conley Woods was developing with KCI post the second sunrise ban, but it's just not very good, I think.

[DeathNote]

Pulled an Ancient Tomb and Horizon Canopy Expeditions yesterday. I'd say its the luckiest I've been opening packs.

[Thestatusquo]

woah.

you're rich.

[Shinobi]

The only good thing about the Splinter Twin ban is that I don't have to spend money/time building it only to have it banned when I actually had it.
Is UR still viable in modern outside of twin?

[bv310]

Pulled an Ancient Tomb and Horizon Canopy Expeditions yesterday. I'd say its the luckiest I've been opening packs.

Dat value. Nice pulls

The only good thing about the Splinter Twin ban is that I don't have to spend money/time building it only to have it banned when I actually had it.
Is UR still viable in modern outside of twin?

Yep. Delver gained a new 2-drop beater in Stormchaser Mage, and a Kiki-Jiki deck is likely still strong.

[chamber]

Not sure if this deck is awesome or unplayable

[chamber]

after going 1-1 I'm still not sure.

[chamber]

I loved eggs.

That deck was awesome.

There is a vocal group of people that freaks out anytime magic is more interesting than HERP DERP I PLAY MY 4 DROP CREATURE AND YOU PLAY YOUR REMOVAL SPELL THEN YOU PLAY YOUR 4 DROP CREATURE WHICH IS THE SAME THING BUT IN DIFFERENT COLORS. HERP DERP.

Eggs was a victim of that vocal group. Fuck those guys, they're the reason magic is now terrible and there is literally only one deck legal in standard, just 10 different versions playing different colors trying to execute the same boring creature midrange strategy.

I completely disagree with this btw. It took too long to actually resolve the combo.

[beeboy]

How good do you guys think Collect Company is in GW hatebears?

[Thestatusquo]

thats a really pretty broad question?

[Natirasha]

I loved eggs.

That deck was awesome.

There is a vocal group of people that freaks out anytime magic is more interesting than HERP DERP I PLAY MY 4 DROP CREATURE AND YOU PLAY YOUR REMOVAL SPELL THEN YOU PLAY YOUR 4 DROP CREATURE WHICH IS THE SAME THING BUT IN DIFFERENT COLORS. HERP DERP.

Eggs was a victim of that vocal group. Fuck those guys, they're the reason magic is now terrible and there is literally only one deck legal in standard, just 10 different versions playing different colors trying to execute the same boring creature midrange strategy.

I legit have never seen this.

The vocal minority is people who want to go back to spells and combo being king..? What are you smoking?

[Thestatusquo]

Did I ever use the phrase "vocal minority?"

[Thestatusquo]

Also, nice strawman. I never said I wanted to go back to "spells and combo being king"

But I WOULD like to go back to standard being a format where there was more than 1 type of deck you could play.

[Natirasha]

I deliberately worded my statement in such a way as to not imply you are part of that group. Believe or not, we've discussed high concepts in Magic enough that I have a good understanding of the type of Magic you like(and I agree that standard has been sufficiently dumbed down in recent years).

The voices I always see are people who seem to think Force of Will vs Storm matches are the epitomy of Magic, I've never seen someone ever say 'damn, I really wish Wizards printed more midrange beaters'

[Natirasha]

EDIT: Double posted

[InflatablePie]

caved and got Probes on MTGO, they help the Fiend deck immensely (although I'm keeping one Growth in). also picked up Burn, and a few other cards for UR Fiend to mess around with.

pauper is a pretty fun format.

Spoiler: Fiend list

8x Island
5x Mountain
1x Swiftwater Cliffs
3x Terramorphic Expanse

4x Delver
4x Kiln Fiend
4x Nivix Cyclops

4x Ponder
4x Preordain
4x Gitaxian Probe
1x Impulse
3x Gush
1x Dispel

4x Lightning Bolt
1x Mutagenic Growth
3x Apostle's Blessing
2x Temur Battle Rage
1x Assault Strobe
2x Shadow Rift
1x Artful Dodge

SB:
3x Dispel
1x Aura Flux (might take this out, haven't run into enough matches where it's been useful)
3x Stormbound Geist
2x Mulldrifter
2x Flame Slash
2x Smash to Smithereens
1x Flaring Pain (haven't seen matchups where this is good either)
1x Electrickery

Spoiler: Burn list

16x Mountain
2x Forgotten Cave

4x Goblin Fireslinger
4x Keldon Marauders

4x Bolt
4x Lava Spike
4x Chain Lightning
4x Rift Bolt
3x Needle Drop
3x Searing Blaze
4x Incinerate
4x Curse of the Pierced Heart
4x Fireblast

SB:
2x Golden Urn
2x Martyr of Ashes (no idea when to side this in tbh)
1x Electrickery
3x Fireslinger
4x Smash to Smithereens
3x Molten Rain

Thinking of trading the Martyr of Ashes for another Fireslinger/Electrickery and a Relic of Progenitus but idk.

[Thestatusquo]

My favorite pauper decks were always mono U and mono B control.

I feel like they were both pretty pricey for pauper standards though (~100 tix)

[Natirasha]

My favorite deck is the Kuldotha deck. Back in 2012, I actually had a hand in the continued evolution of the deck- was the first person to add Guardian of the Guildpact to the deck(and win dailies). I feel like it's my little baby ever since.

If I didn't have a strict no- MTGO clause now, I'd probably start playing pauper again, especially since they banned the card they should have banned over Temporal Fissure. Seriously, I have the posts from 2012 on mtgs begging for WotC to ban Cloud of Faeries because it's 60% of the reason the top 2 decks were FissurePost and Mono U Delver.

[Shinobi]

Pulled an Ancient Tomb and Horizon Canopy Expeditions yesterday. I'd say its the luckiest I've been opening packs.

Dat value. Nice pulls

The only good thing about the Splinter Twin ban is that I don't have to spend money/time building it only to have it banned when I actually had it.
Is UR still viable in modern outside of twin?

Yep. Delver gained a new 2-drop beater in Stormchaser Mage, and a Kiki-Jiki deck is likely still strong.

Is there a decklist for UR Delver floating around? It sounds interesting but idk if it'd be solid enough to play against top tier stuff - I already run G/R ramp in standard so Tron is/was my other modern option outside of Twin.

[InflatablePie]

My favorite pauper decks were always mono U and mono B control.

I feel like they were both pretty pricey for pauper standards though (~100 tix)

Mono B Control looks really fun.

Tempted to brew a Ninja Bear Delver shell. Something off the top of my head:
4x Delver
4x Phantasmal Bear
4x Ninja of the Deep Hours
4x Jeskai Sage
4x Ponder
4x Preordain
4x Brainstorm
4x Counterspell
2x Deprive
3x Snap
1x Bonesplitter
2x Gitaxian Probe
2x Gush
1x Piracy Charm
17x Island

My favorite deck is the Kuldotha deck. Back in 2012, I actually had a hand in the continued evolution of the deck- was the first person to add Guardian of the Guildpact to the deck(and win dailies). I feel like it's my little baby ever since.

If I didn't have a strict no- MTGO clause now, I'd probably start playing pauper again, especially since they banned the card they should have banned over Temporal Fissure. Seriously, I have the posts from 2012 on mtgs begging for WotC to ban Cloud of Faeries because it's 60% of the reason the top 2 decks were FissurePost and Mono U Delver.

Kuldotha looks real fun to play. And yeah, even having only been playing Pauper for a few days, I can say Cloud of Faeries + Spellstutter is so damn annoying.

Faced against some 4-color deck with all Snow lands, 4x Skred, and a ton of counters - Arcane Denial, Counterspell, Memory Lapse, Rewind... think the wincon was Sprout Swarm? Looked fun, despite the fact that I was playing Kiln Fiend and got pooped on.

[bv310]

Pulled an Ancient Tomb and Horizon Canopy Expeditions yesterday. I'd say its the luckiest I've been opening packs.

Dat value. Nice pulls

The only good thing about the Splinter Twin ban is that I don't have to spend money/time building it only to have it banned when I actually had it.
Is UR still viable in modern outside of twin?

Yep. Delver gained a new 2-drop beater in Stormchaser Mage, and a Kiki-Jiki deck is likely still strong.

Is there a decklist for UR Delver floating around? It sounds interesting but idk if it'd be solid enough to play against top tier stuff - I already run G/R ramp in standard so Tron is/was my other modern option outside of Twin.

Something along the lines of:

4 Delver of Secrets
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Stormchaser Mage
1 Grim Lavamancer

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Remand
2 Spell Snare
2 Izzet Charm
2 Electrolyze
1 Cryptic Command
1 Mutagenic Growth

4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls
4 Island
1 Mountain

with a Sideboard that includes at least 2-3 Blood Moons

Grixis could be spicy too, with Gurmag Angler, Kolaghan's Command, Thoughtseize, Terminate, and Tasigur.

[Thestatusquo]

Brainstorm is really really really bad in that deck, pie.

[InflatablePie]

yeah, was just rattling off a bunch of cheap spells. run some terramorphic expanse/evolving wilds, it'll be fine >_>

-4 Brainstorm / +1 Snap +3 Memory Lapse?

could maybe even switch Probes for Vapor Snag or something, or run 1-2 Exclude.

also 2 (maybe 3?) Islands should be the blue cycling land.

[Thestatusquo]

Daze? Spire golem maybe?