Blitz 19 | Fire and Ice with Rooms | Endgame

[Peptobislawl]

Hey people
UNVOTE: while I read up on lane and our golden boy phantom.
be done soon.

[Peptobislawl]

Right, so based on what's happened so far phantom is the better vote with what time we have. day one is always hard but his post #182 had some things that don't sit right with me.

Lanes scum

VOTE: lane

Lol they formed sentences! They're scum!

Hate this post. Feels like a "how did you know" reaction compared to a "no I'm not" reaction.

I really don't see where this is coming from, other than "hey i can say a thing to make him look bad"

I'm also town, guys

Sees star getting acceptance from me, tries to do the same. looks like someone doesn't like getting caught P1

Lane was more being snide at your quick (seeming) acceptance, regardless of your real reasons for declaring star town this reads like making a mountain out of a snarky comment

Based on these comments i'd say phantom is the better lynch for today. there's other things but it more or less amounts to gut. This is the meat of my suspicion.

consider this

intent to hammer

, but later, closer to the deadline. somewhere around 4 hours or more left on the clock.

PEDIT: apparently ranger had shadows vote before i took over

[Peptobislawl]

Ah, you're in a room with him. Phantom, can you tell us why Ranger calls you town?

This may break the post restriction.

Could mod clarify?

[Peptobislawl]

We know you can't talk about your roommates right now, but what about the theories they've come up with? Anything we haven't already heard?

VOTE: start because while i don't like phantom right now, that info from the room may be helpful when it can come out. start has been fairly useless so far, so he's not a bad lynch while we wait for rangers timer to run down

[Peptobislawl]

I think phantom's responses seem like scum and that's all I got guys
Loool
And them peeps tryin 2 derail the wagon dun help either yo, makes me stick to the vote

if you don't want to be suspected then help out some. you've done sweet nothing of note this whole game.
so far i feel comfortable with this vote

[Peptobislawl]

If you do not vote Pepto I will revote PC and ensure that he gets lynched, fyi.

oh man blackmail, nice

[Peptobislawl]

See that's why I think that you're scum though.

What does it

mean

that I'm 'blackmailing' Ranger?

Does it mean that I'm scum? Does it mean that I'm wrong?

Shouldn't you be trying to convince me that I'm misguided instead of passively commenting on my methods?

Well i mean you are blackmailing him, "Do as i say or ill kill that guy you like"

Second, i'm pointing out a somewhat shady method. It's not enough for a scumread on it's own but i don't like it.

Third, can you elaborate on your scumread on me? I know you've pointed to some posts but this is the first time you've had some reasons for it.

I don't know what this proof ranger has that phantom is town but i want to hear it before deciding about phantom. Start has been unhelpful from the, well start, so i consider him a decent lynch for D1. even if he's not scum, he's dead weight so far and that hurts town.

[Peptobislawl]

Well i mean you are blackmailing him, "Do as i say or ill kill that guy you like"

Second, i'm pointing out a somewhat shady method. It's not enough for a scumread on it's own but i don't like it.

If I point out several town games where I've said similar games will you that influence your thinking at all?

I don't personally like it, but if it's normal for you then welp. that's why it wasn't enough for a scumread.

I don't know what this proof ranger has that phantom is town but i want to hear it before deciding about phantom. Start has been unhelpful from the, well start, so i consider him a decent lynch for D1. even if he's not scum, he's dead weight so far and that hurts town.

Are you Phantom's scumbuddy?

I would think Ranger would be the more likely scumbuddy in a scum phantom situation, but maybe that's just me. If ranger really has no good reason to clear Phantom that's two likely scum right there. and if he does, thats two likely town there.

[Peptobislawl]

Timeline's coming up, lane.
might want to go to the end and work backwards

[Peptobislawl]

My reads on Phantom and Ranger are that it will be really easy to sort them D2 and Start's been scummy enought that i can put off dealing them until more information is public.

As for seeming too Laissez-faire, it was always more of an "I've got my eye on you" type thing. I didn't think it was serious on it's own.

[Peptobislawl]

Well the reason i'm doing what i'm doing is because i can get 2 name either on or off my scumlist just by lynching a lesser scumread D1, so not really. I don't really see a downside to waiting on ranger from a town perspective. Do you?

[Peptobislawl]

So you're saying that you both

1) implicitly trust that Ranger's alignment is town

and

2) implicitly trust Ranger's judgement?

I don't

trust

his alignment so much as i believe it will be easy to

find

his alignment come D2. As for his judgement, well it all depends on what his reasons actually are.

My real 2 main points are:

-More information is better for scumhunting

-It's an easy lynch tomorrow if its BS

[Peptobislawl]

What if Ranger is town but Phantom is scum?

Worst case scenario. We'll prbably end up lynching both of them but 1 for 1 is a bad trade for scum.

What if Ranger is scum but Phantom is town?

Scum trying to protect town to look good and get a doc on him to save him from the other scumteam. I could see it. I think Ranger probably wouldn't get away with this though, he kinda promised the moon and the stars so not delivering would be a good reason for a lynch. The hard part is proving Phantom innocent after. may end up being another 1 for 1.

All i want is more data to decide with.

[Peptobislawl]

And why do i get the feeling that we're the only ones around?

VOTE: GETAROOM:pepto,Radiant
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[Peptobislawl]

oh yeah this is a hydra.

[Peptobislawl]

Start is scum, you are town, lane is a light scumlean, Ranger and phantom i'm waiting on like i said. null on the others so far. D1 isn't my strong suit.

[Peptobislawl]

That would rely on some on other than the two of us posting. But considering that i forgot pignash was even in this game, i would be ok with this lynch for the same reasons as start, but more so.

VOTE: pig

[Peptobislawl]

the lack of ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AT ALL. look at all that no content.

[Peptobislawl]

Ok can someone post we have 3 hours

we son't want a no lynch so VOTE: Phantom L-1

[Peptobislawl]

Pig needs to post ot get lynched tommorow

[Peptobislawl]

Pig: tell us anything about your reads and opinions in the game so far.

Ranger: Tell us everything you haven't told us that's been going on in your room.

[Peptobislawl]

Fine. Tell me about Ranger.

why does he wear the mask?

[Peptobislawl]

I can do that too you know.

VOTE: GETAROOM:Hip,Moonlight,Ranger

get a room

It takes 2n-1 votes to get an n person room. (3 votes for a 2 person room, 5 votes for a 3 person room, ... , 9 votes for a 5 person room)

hiplop, Radiant Moonlight, Ranger

(R-0): Ranger, Radiant Moonlight, hiplop, Firebringer, Peptobislawl

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itlepip, pignash

(R-1): pignash, itlepip

Not voting

(3): Flubbernugget, lane0168,

Peptobislawl,

startfromtheheart

People eligible for rooms

(7): Firebringer, Flubbernugget, itlepip, lane0168, Peptobislawl, pignash, startfromtheheart

Post restrictions (can vote, can't talk about each other in public)

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• hiplop, Radiant Moonlight, Ranger (expired on 2016-01-23 19:15:00)

Infractions:

• Flubbernugget [1/3]

[Peptobislawl]

So phantom was your top townread at time of forming the room, and you seemed to agree on everything.

Flubber, why don't you tell us about the room you and ranger share. what do you make of his and phantom's interactions in there.

[Peptobislawl]

wanted to make a separate post for this

Start vs pignash in a lurker off, eh? Why dont the two of you give thoughts on suspects other than each other?

[Peptobislawl]

Care to add some reasoning?

[Peptobislawl]

Well looks like flubbernugget isn't gonna tell me what he thinks of his room, so i may as well continue on.

Ranger, you say you thought phantom was town because you agreed with everything he said in your room. That seems less like townreads and more like buddying to me. You wanted Phantom to survive to cover yourself by making him think you're town, but he got lynched. Now you're on backup plan, which is using your previous townread on him to build credibility.

Personally I'd be suspicious of anyone who agrees with everything I say. Everybody lies, after all.
I also find it interesting that flubber, your roommate, is currently voting you. Dous he perhaps agree with my logic?

[Peptobislawl]

VOTE: Ranger
I don't like his reasoning for trusting mr hard to spell ice scum, I don't like his behavior in his room (according to both remaining roommates), and I don't like his defence of lurkers.

Lurkers are anti-town at best and scum at worst. If pig or start put some work in I may be convinced but until then.

(Pig I know you have RL things but if you can't see yourself posting before D3 it might be time to think about replacement)

[Peptobislawl]

Are we going to let pignash get away with this tomorrow? 3 days in a row?

I'm sort of expecting a replacement for pig at this point. Of corse if that doesn't happen the only good reason would be him contributing.

It may be wize to claim now, ranger.

[Peptobislawl]

VOTE: ranger

Hammer time!

welp there goes ~48 hours of discussion

[Peptobislawl]

yeah pignash is an easy lynch tomorrow.

[Peptobislawl]

VOTE: pignash

Quickhammer isn't the way to get suspicion off you for lurking.

[Peptobislawl]

thanks start for the gut vote instead of using actual evidence. And by that i mean please for the love of god make useful points.

[Peptobislawl]

Down to business. I'm the doctor and I protected lane last night.

I want to hear from start. He's been lurking all game so far.

[Peptobislawl]

outside me, pool is <Firebringer, Flubbernugget, hiplop> and i might go with hiplop there
gut feeling

So your lynch pool is literally everyone not confermed besides yourself and the best reason to single someone out is gut feeling?

[Peptobislawl]

Start is at l-1 right now. So I'm declaring

intent to hammer

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If anyone has reason not to lynch him, speak now or forever hold your pieces. I'll drop the hammer ~1hour from this post otherwise.

[Peptobislawl]

If the game goes on after this, flubber is my top scumread for now.
VOTE: start

[Peptobislawl]

man what do you guys have against short nights? Ahh well, kill the bad guys.

[Peptobislawl]

hey it was flubber the whole time. Good game everyone!