Mini 1747: Cinnamon Roll Mafia Endgame

[RadiantCowbells]

ty for smiles.

hi everyone I reread now.

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This is my kingdom come.

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Read halfway, going to bed. further catchup as events dictate.

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right cuz RC such easy sort wow.

much simple.

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VOTE: Soaprbar

scum.

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now try to sort me.

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you're better than this martin c'mon.

are you scum this game?

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Annie avi is town.

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Last time I was a hero in a game with you town utterly ignored me and we didn't lynch scum.

I'm tired of being hero. I have schoolwork to do.

Maybe tomorrow evening I'll put in some hard work.

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Back to this game.

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Nothing really calls me besides Soapbar at this point to be honest.

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ayyyy let's lynch Soapbar please.

I'm not good at convincing you all but I think it's the best lynch.

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Hum ho hum.

I'm not good at this explaining things to people thing.

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How's this?

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I don't believe my answers would change people's reads.

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A full read places Davesaz as null.
I'm no longer fully supporting a Soapbar lynch.

What else is on the table...

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FA_Q2 slot is still alive?

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FA_Q2 is a decent scum candidate.

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I don't really have any townreads and it bothers me.

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VOTE: Syndesis

To be honestly if I was to pick one wagon based on it's likelihood to hit scum over any other factors, this is it.

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That 'be the hero this game needs' line just makes me so averse to lynching her but I do think that she's scum.

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Then fucking don't.
Sheep your current reads onto the Davesaz wagon. Or whatever.
See what it flips.
Don't expect me to do all your heavy lifting for you.
I can replace into a game and carry, fine. but not if town is going to fight me every step of the way.
I'm not arguing with you lot. I have my scum picks, you lynch who you will. Your votes are outside of my jurisdiction.

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Like I don't understand how I can replace in, read 40 pages of material in a day (when most replacements don't even reread), call scum, get ignored, THEN get blamed by town for not convincing them hard enough.

You are responsible for your own damn votes, don't make them my responsibility.

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like you don't help me by sitting here and waiting for me to lead you to the promised land.
if you want more content from me then engage me. point out specific things you think are important and ask me for thoughts.
don't just sit there being all WELP WE NOT DOING ANYTHING TILL RC HAS READS then WELP WE DONT LIKE RC READS.

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Will you hurt me if I ask why that line makes you averse to lynching me?

Well I don't want you to be seeing my replace in and remembering me pinning both scum in our last game together and be like 'OH MY GOSH RC WILL SAVE THE DAY HERE!!!' and then I come in and vote you and you're heartbroken and have to cry yourself to sleep for the next few nights about how RC failed you and lead a mislynch on you.

That said, I'll reread Raskol. Your quote wall is interesting.

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Why are you pretending to be a delicate flower though?
What do you think I'm going to do punch you in the face via internet if you ask me a question?
It rubs me the wrong way.

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Lolbabe IS pretty awful to be honest.
I could see Raskol as scum as well.

I guess I'd support that over Davesaz, yeah.

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Syndesis, what's your read on myself/Moosy and why?
If you had to put a read out on TSQ, what would it be?

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Look fuck it I want to lynch scum today.
TSQ, are you claiming alignment knowledge of Syndesis or not?

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Actually y'know what don't answer that.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

If this flips town I think I deathtunnel Syndesis for the rest of the game, assuming I'm alive to do so.

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Sorry Martin but Lolbabe was awful.

You gotta go man.

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y u do this tho.

you can't possibly think I'm scum here.

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Uh, sorry about newbie 71 but again I really don't feel like that was my fault considering tictac was literally a brick wall.

I'll kindly not replace into any more of your games and lynch you if it makes you feel better.

I can still unvote you if you make me think you're town. Why do you think that I'm scum right now?

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or were you just poking fun at the Kuroi line?

seriously though, regardless of alignment, you should make an argument for why you think that I'm scum.

And explain what the previous sentence means if you don't want me replacing into your games before we can't discuss it anymore.

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This could be fun!

Hi TSQ.

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VOTE: TSQ

You should explain these votes.

Vote: RC

Policy. Try to be less fucking obnoxious or policy lynch. Don't even care.

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I'm wondering what the odds are that TSQ fakes a giant flip out to cover the fact that I'm pressuring his scumbuddy.

UNVOTE:

Martin, you're not even going to make a token effort to defend your vote changes?

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I voted you because I didn't like the way either Lolbabe or yourself danced around the scum wagon day 1.
I also really don't like the absence of the strong scumhunting that I usually have seen from you as town.
I think that your pushing for me to develop my reads, in particular, was hoping that I would incite a change of wagon and involve some sort of me brute forcing a wagon onto someone else.
Further, I see Iraonavp as the second most likely to be scum in your scum category and I think ruling out Raskol/Iraonavp will be very useful even if you're town, because I'd want one of the pair of you lynched before LyLo.
Finally, your current reactions seen to be tantamount to scumclaiming to be honest.

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Soap was mostly the fact that he was nullish scum and although he wasn't a guaranteed scum wagon he's the kind of person that I systematically overlook and I want to be rid of him ASAP.
We don't want him around in LyLo, if avoidable. I really did like the way he dealt with the Jailkeeper fakeclaim, which is why I ended up unvoting the slot.

Syndesis is a bunch of stuff that I'm not going to go into at this time since TSQ is softing alignment info on her slot.

But why are you going to tunnel syndesis if I flip town?

Because she's in basically all the scumteams that I can come up with if you're not scum.
Obviously flips may change my read there but I'm expecting to eat the bullet, though maybe not since TSQ is softing results.

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I think TSQ/Syndesis is actually pretty damn likely right now, but your reaction does seem to me to be caught scum so I'm not really interested in pursuing that at the moment.

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No, really.
Why the vote changes?

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I wanted to poke you for fun. TSQ I think is overexaggerating being upset with you which I don't like. I'm really just glad this game got fun now since it was a boring af lurkfest earlier, even though I won't be able to stay around in it much longer I think it was alright now.

Get TSQ/syn after my hammer then. Good luck!

Really?

No arguments? c'mon.

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imma be real not happy if you're town here.

why did you suddenly jump ship to supporting my tsq/syn idea?

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I'm pretty sure I voted him before you had your idea!

.....okay but what's your point.

why do you support my idea :S

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idk I found your town play much more rigorous and formal.
if you're town here we'll figure out after game why I read you wrong.
I just can't see you as town atm.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

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Vote without claim + town flip = auto deathtunnel TSQ.

unless he like disappears or something.

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Where'd Syndesis go?

I miss the friendliness now.

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dat claim though.

I thought I saw something that could have been a jailkeeper soft which is why I was really insistent.

But yeah, looks like scum flip.

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Aww.
I'm town, I swear!
You should swear too. I don't want you to be scum pls.

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What are you conflicted about with us?

Do you think that one or both of us is scum?

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If you're not scum I doubt TSQ is scum.

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best of S&G.

Is that a town claim?

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Wait did you specifically exclude someone?

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Well he's not dead. this is twilight.

if the rules specifically precluded posting after hammer they'd say so, most likely.

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that's how it generally works here.

I'm not sure what TSQ is saying.

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Like, twilight aka hammer is when the final votes are cast and the town decides who to lynch.

Thread lock + flip + nightfall is when the lynch actually happens, flavour wise.

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I know other mods who run similar rulesets.

But I think the vast majority of the time twilight is free for discussion.

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Davesaz, you realize that if you bodyguarded me this game would have been virtually unlosable?

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Like you know that I'm NK bait and you know that I'm capable of solving the game.

Bodyguards don't exist not to be used, particularly when you're already universally scumread.

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If you had actually claimed something, then I would have BG'd.
And sorry, but you're not that great that I'm willing to swap myself for you.
I actually did solve this game, and town listened to the snakes instead of the truth.

You were scumread, I was universally townread.

There's no reason for you not to sacrifice yourself for me when you're otherwise setting yourself up tob e mislynched.

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Don't blame TSQ for Davesaz's unacceptably bad play.

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Like if you're a leading wagon as bodyguard you use your goddamn bodyguard.

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Did you game throw?

no.

did you play absolutely horribly?

yes.

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I want you to consider what would have happened if you had bodyguraded me that last night.

We'd be in 6 way with

RadiantCowbells, confirmed via Vig kill. Also still had a RB.
TSQ
FaQ2 in neighbourhood with RC and who I would have bet my life on being town.
Syndesis, TSQ's inno.
Soapbar
Iraonavp

Do you think we could have POSSIBLY lost that?