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[shos]

ok so good

I haz it confirmed

[shos]

the reason I hurried you up is I wanted to see if you got an answer from the mod

clearly; if you had gotten one - you'd post about it.


you hadn't.

When I saw you wrote that you sent the question in - I PMed the mod. I asked something stupid.

The mod answered me very shortly.

[shos]

VOTE: Anen


Clear cut by now

[shos]

I concur with any hammers

[Aneninen]

The only way to answer this would be the one if I screenshot my Outbox to show that I've SENT a PM. That would be illegal. Actually I'm not even sure whether your reasoning is legal.

Alternatively, the Mod could confirm the FACT itself that I sent a PM.

Mod, sorry to say but we have an issue here.

[shos]

The mod cannot do anything about this, any interaction with the mod may be lies, yours (actually a lie) but also mine (truth).

[shos]

(and of course the mod cannot confirm or deny any contact).

Any chance you can actually fakeclaim what the mod answered you?

[Aneninen]

Since I haven't got an answer I can't tell you anything.

[shos]

hilarious

[Aneninen]

The mod cannot do anything about this, any interaction with the mod may be lies, yours (actually a lie) but also mine (truth).

You've spent more time on MafiaScum than I have.

I still think we have an issue here

but if you're right about this, you're lying, because I'm telling the truth.
This is not a lie which would make sense as townie.

[shos]

*sigh*

[Lucky2u]

I'm going to confirm that I will not discuss mod communications as it goes against the nature of the game. However I will point out that some mods are forgetful at answering PMs from their players.

On a completely unrelated note I am adding the following rule to this and all future games that I mod.

Rule # 5h05: players should not attempt to use or manipulate the mod for any purpose.

[Aneninen]

The answer has arrived.

Game's going on to Night Phase, there's no Flip.

Also, according to the Mod, Shos's 830 is correct.

Since I'm telling the truth, Shos must be lying.

Therefore, Shos is scum.

VOTE: Shos

If you think it's better strategy to lynch me, do so. However, Tonight Shos most probably Nightkills me and tries to get away with the story Tomorrow.

Alternatively, we lynch Shos Today. If it's not over, Banana Roleblocks me. If there's no Nightkill, lynch me once, if there's still no Nightkill, lynch me again. By Day5, it's still 3:1, so there's one more chance to find the remaining scum. (In case of intentional NoKill, Blocked Nightkill by other abilities, having a Non-Killing third party, etc.) If there's a Nightkill Tonight, I'm cleared, so it's 3:1 with a conf-town. It's the same if there's a Nightkill at Night3.

[Aneninen]

Ninja-ed by the mod.
(If you don't believe me, check the time stamps.)

[SirCakez]

Scum globally announced commuter?

[shos]

Lol @ mod w/ rule 5h05i gotcha hahaha

Now I really dont know what to thimk about anen.

@anen - what do you think I I lied about?

[RadiantCowbells]

can

we

just

lynch

sir

cakez

please

[shos]

RC whats your take on anens claim flailing

Can

You

Please

Read the game

[RadiantCowbells]

WHY DONT YOU GO PLAY HIDE AND GO SEEK IN THE BASEMENT SHOS.

[shos]

Well I have no basement you see

[shos]

I will be PLEASED if we can have anen hammer RC today

[shos]

Also for the record, when I am scum, and I say I pmed the mod, I always pom the mod something to make sure tgis doesnt happen. See werewolves hollow game

[Aneninen]

@anen - what do you think I I lied about?

Your 830. You've been here since 2011, I arrived in 2014. Therefore, you know more about Game Rules and situations like this than I do. I've never been involved in anything similar before. (I would say, anyone could check my meta, but because of its length I don't think it would be worth the effort.) You knew how the Mod would react whereas I hadn't got any idea. (Everyone who ever played with me or Modded a game to me knows that I'm always trying my best not to break any rules, eg. I'm usually the first who shouts for deleting mis-posts, even if I was the one who'd made the mistake, etc.)
You called me a liar and posted that you'd been telling the truth. However, even if it's not possible to confirm it, I know I was telling the truth. Therefore, you lied.

That was the bit when you overdid your case against me. It's not only the thing that you were Regardless of Card-ing me. (You called me scum regardless of my answers; the full definition can be found on my Wiki-page.) Actually, this was the most blatant Regardless of Card I've ever seen –

I even agreed my own lynch

as I realized I'd misread my Role PM. You've done nothing, I say, nothing else Today but pushing me, you haven't tried to get any other scumreads, and you've been ignoring basically everything else.

Actually you even have an Agatha Christie correspondence.
(This is literally a Spoiler, it reveals the ending of an Agatha Christie novel.)

Spoiler:

Zachariah Osbourne from

The Pale Horse

. He was the head of the organization which was responsible for several murders, but he kept accusing Mr Venables for the same thing – even after the point when it turned out that it would be impossible. (Venables was a wheel-chaired millionaire.)

Before that post I thought you must be a townie misreading me all the time. You can check it: I'd been trying to be cooperative all the time.
Now I think you're scum. With all of these PRs in play it's possible to have a Ninja-PR either on the Mafia side or as SK. (Or it's also possible that both you and SirCakez are lying and both of you are scums, either together or independently.)

Although there were quite a few bits which looked scummy, I haven't pointed them out because I thought you were town and I didn't want anyone to jump on them.
This will be a long spoiler about Shos. There are parts I found before and there are parts I found ISO-ing him right now. (If anyone asks: why should I have ISO my TOWNREAD before?)

Spoiler:

When you voted for Lane in 193, Firebringer had clearly suspected him. It may have been a preemptive move.
In 203 he your wrote

"I'm not lynching D1 based on claims."

but in 256 your reaction was this on my Predecessor's wagon:

"This is what I was saying actually, but considering the claim, we can leash him."

This happened after Rkvothe's claim, and you had had a townread on him before.
That

"The Eagle has landed"

, I admit, may be against my idea, although we know only from Shos what that meant. (The Mod never told it referred to Commuting.) By the way, that phrase rings a bell... wasn't that in a film about the Second World War?
In 334 this:

"Flubber, I literally voted lane as I entered the game"

– the vote actually happened in #19 of your ISO. You were trying to get town-credit for something that had actually never happened.
613 – You collected the claims but there were mistakes. Flubber wasn't there at all, nor Firebringer (although both of them had claimed something before!), you left out my 1–Shot and called me BP instead of Kill-Proof. If your case (namely, my claim didn't match my predecessor's) had been genuine, you would have jumped on it

right after

my claim, which happened in 671. I think (although I can't prove it, I don't have time to read everything) you started going after me after seeing the RC-wagon hadn't been working. (Nor your idea to get someone to hammer him.)
629 –

"well for one, it allows Jeanne to live to endgame, and I don't trust that."

– Yet you've ignored ALL of my ideas how to get rid of ME before endgame.
725

"In my opinion, we should be townhunting, not scumhunting right now."

– And you've never been townhunting at all! (Besides, WTF?!)
736 –

"My opinion?

RC is the last scum

, with a bigass claim to make him survive, as nobody wanta to self aacrifice and with him not being logical, nobody woulkd cooperate.

Anen is SK

.

If game doesnt end after anen dies

, flub probably hammers RC and game is done."

– At that point you've just contradicted yourself at the same post. If I were the SK, the game wouldn't end after my death at all!
744 – Another claim-table. My flavour was missing, although I'd added it before. Firebringer's modifiers are missing too. This sentence was in the post:

"Flubber, did you claim? If you haven't, please do."

– His 175 confirms you knew about Firebringer's modifiers. 184 confirms you knew about Flubber's claim. You were creating claim-tables with false information intentionally.
748 – Another claim-table. My Nightkill is named wrong. All the other things in the table is about to confirm your claim. Everything else is listed below the table. 753 is the same, the only changes were adding RC and Lane.
766 –

'Step by step. Mafia later. And i asked for your claim, not your fklavor

– Firstly, you refused to answer my question: "Who's Mafia". This is incredibly strange, because we

know

there's a Mafia alive and we only

speculate

about SK/another Mafia/etc. Another self-contradiction: you asked for my flavour in 744.
About 795 you started overdoing your case. Everything after my 798–799 makes no sense. Why were you pushing the case after I'd admitted my mistake (about reading my Role PM) and self-voting?
Also, 805:

"How bout ask the mod, dummy <3 it is imperative to fake good answers, ye?"

– Knowing the later events

you knew at this point that I WOULD ask the Mod about it and I was going to WAIT for that answer!!!

(812 actually confirms this.)

And now, we've arrived to the point where we are.

Also for the record, when I am scum, and I say I pmed the mod, I always pom the mod something to make sure tgis doesnt happen. See werewolves hollow game

Self-meta. Good.
Meanwhile, you ignored me when I offered my self-meta. (815).

TL;DR: Shos must be scum (either with Lane or independently), and it's not only because of his 830. Details are in the spoiler. Should anyone check my ISO, they can see that I've been trying to find the best strategy (even if it includes my own lynch), I was trying to cooperate with Shos (as long as I had a townread on him) and my other townreads, and although I indeed misread my Role PM (which I can nothing do about), my gameplay has been consistent.

[Aneninen]

By the way, if anyone thinks I'm lying about sending a PM, check out the time stamps of 836 and 837. I don't think it's possible even to type that in 1 minute (without thinking about what to write). And if anyone things I'd been waiting for the Mod to post and when his post appeared, I sent my pre-written post – how on Gods' Green Earth could I have known that he would post at all?

[shos]

Lop anen
Correct modding is to actually not post what lucky posted
But he's the modgod so if he chooses to, that is final

You are using the same arguments as I did as scum very lately lol


I havent read all your post btw ill look lkater