Mini 1762: Game Over

[NinoMasaki]

To Innocent: Now that it is clear that kirro is town, do you still townread RC-senpai for attacking kirro?

[kirroha]

Why is nobody voting Shortcut? His actions make absolutely no sense as town and make plenty of sense as scum. He's ridiculously scummy and the only reason why there's no wagon on him is because he hasn't posted anything in a while since his last scummy post. Come on guys.

[kirroha]

Fair enough. I was looking at it with a focus on kirroha herself, and I saw nothing wrong with waiting a bit longer to make my move, or if she stayed scummy saving my vote so I can choose to hammer
On principle I think getting claims out that early is a bit careless (because you want to out as few roles as possible d1d2) but then again I'm not that good at this game so maybe I'm just wrong here.

Wait, wait, wait. So you admit that you were willing to hammer me, 3 days into the game day, when there are still 12-13 days before the deadline? Attempting to end the day so early is hardly a towny thing to do.

Yes, getting claims out so early is never a good thing. That's why I shouldn't have made such a shitty crumb. That was bad play, sorry.

@ink: I'm starting to see what you mean by Killthestory's sudden flopping over to defending me the moment the wagon started to turn being really weird. I'll be happy to join you on that wagon for now but I want answers from Shortcut and Radko first. Shortcut is a great lynch today imo.

I want everyone quiet to chip in please. I think it should be about time to start making reads lists, which I'll do so soon.

[I Am Innocent]

To Innocent: Now that it is clear that kirro is town, do you still townread RC-senpai for attacking kirro?

I am actually questioning my earlier town reads on both RC and implosion at the moment. Ink is my strongest town read and I really like his scum hunting efforts. You get ink to swing over to RC and I'll join both of you.

As for rubixxx I don't like how active he started being after I voted him and pointed out his lack of contributions. Still my lone vote isn't doing much there, so I'll move it, but want the group to know it isn't cause I feel any better about his slot.

Ink is totally right about the progression from story's scum to town read on kirroha. There was no natural progression I still don't know exactly what it was that changed it. Willing to join ink here.

unvote rubixxx
Vote killthestory

[I Am Innocent]

Why is nobody voting Shortcut? His actions make absolutely no sense as town and make plenty of sense as scum. He's ridiculously scummy and the only reason why there's no wagon on him is because he hasn't posted anything in a while since his last scummy post. Come on guys.

Shortcut is another player that deserves a wagon. Not ignoring you, just need to vote in blocs is all. You get ink to join u and I'll vote shortcut as well.

@everybody, current reads/willingness to vote RC, killthestory, rubixxx and shortbutton

[NinoMasaki]

Innocent have you changed your opinion on kirroha. If so why?

[I Am Innocent]

The VT crumb, 8 of 12 people voting that slot, the AtE feels townie have caused me to question my scum read on her. I'd prob label her as lean town at the moment.

[NinoMasaki]

What is AtE feels?

[ShortcutButton]

I'll catch up later

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
You know what you did

I just noticed you haven't changed your RVS vote yet. Scum reads please?

[I Am Innocent]

What is AtE feels?

See appeal to emotion in the wiki page. Kirroha used a bit of it, for example, if u lynch me and when I flip town you'll have no real leads D2. I usually don't like these statements but I felt kirroha was being genuine vs trying to appeal to fear.

[Killthestory]

Noticed Kirroha was being pushed too hard, she was probably Vi, so anyone could have picked apart her posts, and I didn't realize she crumbed.

Looked good to me.

Anyway, I'm getting an off feeling about Ink/Innocent duo. "Willingness to vote?" It's like asking towns approval for a scumread.

I'm not saying both are scum, by they're definitely feeding off each other. Or at least one is buddying to the others scumreads.

[RadiantCowbells]

I told you all from the beginning...

Now, because we all tunnelled so much on kirroha we have no leads on how to continue because we hardly discussed anything else.
Lunching a lurker is a better idea than lynching a near confirmed VT who is actually active and contributing. In the games I read also, lurkers tend to be scym, waiting for active town players to finish lynching each other.

Senpai will you say something?

VOTE: RC-SENPAI

What do you want me to say?
I thought Kirroha had some weird PoVs so I voted her.
She's a 2009 player so I didn't assume preemptively that she was lynchbaity.
I unvoted her long before she got under threat of lynch if that makes you feel better.
I want to see more from BBT.

[Killthestory]

You know what Ink what do you think of Innocent. I need you to be as unbiased as possible as you look through his posts because it seems to be that he's trying to use your scumreads to push mislynches.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd vote IaI right now.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Guess I'll read this tonight then.

[tojam2]

The reason I can't say anything concrete is I don't have an hour to read through players attacking other players and not the play, namely Rubixxx, killthestory and kirroha.

So VOTE: Rubix.

[tojam2]

I'm not even going to quote 258 because there's so many quotes in it.

[Rubixxx]

Mod, can we get a VC?

[kirroha]

Fair enough. I was looking at it with a focus on kirroha herself, and I saw nothing wrong with waiting a bit longer to make my move, or if she stayed scummy saving my vote so I can choose to hammer
On principle I think getting claims out that early is a bit careless (because

you want to out as few roles as possible d1d2

) but then again I'm not that good at this game so maybe I'm just wrong here.

Uhh, just wondering guys, but am I just nitpicking too much or is his use of the word "you" to refer to town a bit strange? Not to mention an admitted willingness to hammer a player 2 days into the game without reasons for his scumread.

@tojam2: I never insulted any player (and I expect other players not to insult each other either). Can you give us an opinion on what has been said by everyone please? Tell us what you think of Ink's suspicion of Killthestory 315, Killthestory's suspicion of the Ink/Innocent combo 336, and my opinions on Shortcut 232, instead of just brushing off every argument as an attack against another player?

[Rubixxx]

To Innocent: Now that it is clear that kirro is town, do you still townread RC-senpai for attacking kirro?

I am actually questioning my earlier town reads on both RC and implosion at the moment. Ink is my strongest town read and I really like his scum hunting efforts. You get ink to swing over to RC and I'll join both of you.

As for rubixxx I don't like how active he started being after I voted him and pointed out his lack of contributions.

Still my lone vote isn't doing much there, so I'll move it, but want the group to know it isn't cause I feel any better about his slot.

Ink is totally right about the progression from story's scum to town read on kirroha. There was no natural progression I still don't know exactly what it was that changed it. Willing to join ink here.

unvote rubixxx
Vote killthestory

Why does everyone question me for not throwing down a vote in the first 48 hours the game had been open? I'm the cautious sort - I don't vote unless I think something is extremely scummy. Not to mention I've been dealing with work/class and depression kicking my ass. I think I've been moderately active, even before you mentioned me, and my ISO proves it.

The reason I can't say anything concrete is I don't have an hour to read through players attacking other players and not the play, namely Rubixxx, killthestory and kirroha.

So VOTE: Rubix.

Yeah, you popping in, saying hardly nothing at all, and then slapping me with a vote isn't super scummy at all. My vote is staying parked on you, mister.

[TheCow]

VC soon(tm)

[Raskolnikov]

Fair enough. I was looking at it with a focus on kirroha herself, and I saw nothing wrong with waiting a bit longer to make my move, or if she stayed scummy saving my vote so I can choose to hammer
On principle I think getting claims out that early is a bit careless (because

you want to out as few roles as possible d1d2

) but then again I'm not very good at this game so maybe I'm just wrong here.

Uhh, just wondering guys, but am I just nitpicking too much or is his use of the word "you" to refer to town a bit strange? Not to mention an admitted willingness to hammer a player 2 days into the game without reasons for his scumread.

Mmm. The word thing is a nitpick, specifying town would be less concise there, and I was originally going to say "because one would want to out as few roles as possible d1d2" but that is pretty awkward.
The latter was poorly phrased by me. I meant I was willing to put you to l-1 day 2 -or- save my vote for an eventual hammer for far later. Obviously I would have given my given my reasons before doing either action but it never came to it so the point is moot.

I'm pretty happy with how the game is going so far: I'm trying a new approach this time and I'm feeling good about it so far. Currently awaiting some BBT-RC-IAI interaction, I know that the town within this set have an interest in sorting each other and it'll be interesting to see what comes out of the exchanges.

[TheCow]

Vote Count 1.7

BlueBloodedToffee

(3)

: Raskolnikov, RadiantCowbells, Syndesis

(L-4)

kirroha

(3)

: implosion, BlueBloodedToffee, ShortcutButton

(L-4)

Syndesis

(2)

: Killthestory, I Am Innocent

(L-5)

tojam2

(1)

: Rubixxx

(L-6)

Killthestory

(1)

: ink

(L-6)

ShortcutButton

(1)

: kirroha

(L-6)

Rubixxx

(1)

: tojam2

(L-6)

RadiantCowbells

(1)

: NinoMasaki

(L-6)

Not Voting

(0)

:

With 13 players alive, majority is 7 today.

Will today be the day the vote count is correct? Find out next week on TheCow's Crazy Count.

[RadiantCowbells]

Speaking of like actual policy lynches, can we policy lynch BBT and be done with it?