Blitz 25: Super Mario uPick! (Koopa Troop victory!)

[RadiantCowbells]

Super Mario Mafia:

Votecount #2.24:

BlueTrin (1): Amihan
Ranger (1): Xtoxm
Frozen Angel (0):
Xtoxm (0):
Amihan (0):
Heat (0):
Fire Starter (0):
Firebringer (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Flubbernugget (0):

Not voting: Ranger, Heat, BlueTrin, Firebringer, Aristophanes, Frozen Angel, Flubbernugget, Fire Starter

With 10 alive it's 6 to lynch.

Night falls in (expired on 2016-02-16 19:00:00).

Picture:

Donkey Kong

Notes:

He's the first member of the DK crew.

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah, no kidding. I was convinced going into N1 that lilith was scum with [REDACTED - probably the second mason], pulling the same gambit from Blitz 1: she claimed without her mason buddy also claiming, with no actual indication that she was a mason.

You will never see that shitshow of a game happen again

[Flubbernugget]

You said you were unlynchable

Wait disregard that

It's late at night

I have also missed something

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, no kidding. I was convinced going into N1 that lilith was scum with [REDACTED - probably the second mason], pulling the same gambit from Blitz 1: she claimed without her mason buddy also claiming, with no actual indication that she was a mason.

You will never see that shitshow of a game happen again

Now I'm intrigued

[Aristophanes]

You said you were unlynchable

Wait disregard that

It's late at night

I have also missed something

Just reread Frozen at the end of day scramble. It will make a lot more sense.

[Frozen Angel]

Still waiting for any comments from Ranger

[Ranger]

Mod: V/LA for 24 hours.

Something came up--personal.

[Firebringer]

Flubbernugget leaning townish
I like the fact that he posts mostly about the game and tries to bring information to the table rather than fluff.
177
I didn't like the vote against FA without a reason 406

I don't see how you are town leaning on Flubber, that guy is always null for me.

[Firebringer]

I don't have statistics about this, but in your 1 out of 10 game, was the scum neighbouriser also in a game where there were masons ?

Pretty sure it was. I don't recall.

[BlueTrin]

Flubbernugget leaning townish
I like the fact that he posts mostly about the game and tries to bring information to the table rather than fluff.
177
I didn't like the vote against FA without a reason 406

I don't see how you are town leaning on Flubber, that guy is always null for me.

If you give more details about why he's null to you, we can discuss about it ? One issue I have about him is that he does not post much compared to some other and he does not share his opinion.

But if you look at his ISO, to me it looks like he is lurking and reading posts to comment: he was frank with FA which to me makes me think he may be town although it is a light read for me.


Your turn: why is he null to you ?

[Aristophanes]

I could write a bunch of theory mumbo jumbo, but I honestly doubt this is a town neighbourizer.

I'm going to ISO him in a bit and will be back with that soon, but my setup spec is telling me this is likely to be a scum role.

[Heat]

I'll post something tonight
Out at my sisters

[Aristophanes]

I blame my cold, but I have no motivation today for this.

However, I read Xtox's Iso and he seems to go the non-confrontational route with most of his posts.

"Vote: player 1."
"Oh, I like that answer. Unvote Player 1."
"Vote Player 2"
"Oh, that's okay too. Unvote Player 2"

Etc.

No sorting. No hard reads. Just a surface like or dislike of recent posts.

VOTE: Xtoxm

[Fire Starter]

@Mod V/LA til Monday

I may be able to chime in occasionally with recent things guys but I won't be able to catch up or make big posts.

[Fire Starter]

Responding to prod

[Flubbernugget]

Why did I just get prodded

[Amihan]

Sorry about the prod, I forgot to say I would be V/LA this weekend until maybe Monday night or Tuesday morning.

[BlueTrin]

Xtoxm, leaning scum

Random RVS: 46, null
Random RVS: 48, null

Got told off by Fire Starter for having no opinion, so randomly vote Jackal because Jackal had not posted enough 235, null leaning scumm

In 201, Xtoxm is voting Heat.

VOTE: Heat

Don't like his reaction to Fire's vote. Looks liked riled scum.

I like how Amihan responded to the info contradicting her beliefs, I also like how Aristo and Lilith have been thinking about things.

Joined the 3player wagon on Lilith. 281
At that time Lilith was voted by: Heat, BlueTrin, Fire Starter


In 552, he complains that Ari's post is scummy, but does not give a reason why, leaning scum.

In fact, I'd say the chances of the neighbourizer being scum are quite likely.

this comment gives me hives

In 555, Xtoxm explains that neigbouriser is almost exclusively a role given to town. I have not enough experience on this site to know so null to me.

In 558, he wants to restart the wagon on Ranger. This can be interpreted in many ways, he could be genuinely be town trying to get this vote on ranger done or he could be scum trying to move the votes away. I have no opinion on this particular post.


Overall when I re-read his ISO, it is very short and I would see it slightly leaning scum but that is mostly because he did not contribute as much, he posted less opinions, did not start leads/wagons and seems to just follow with the flow. It could be that he is a follower rather than someone who is leading, or it could be scum, trying to be safe ?

Xtoxm, am I getting this all wrong ? Is that because you are using day chat in your neighbourhood ? This would make sense so you could share opinions in a smaller group.

Fire Starter, leaning town

RVS ... 23
Fire Starter gives 3 town reads: Ari, FA and Flubber, he also vote Heat 194
explaining reads on Lilith, FA and Heat 202 and 209
Acknowledge that Heat is probably town in 228 and voting Lilith because of lack of content.

I like this post from Fire Starter: 234, he tries to get Xtoxm to start a new wagon before the deadline.

Trying to get Firebringer to explain his vote on Jackal 245

I don't like this vote without explanation 471

Fire Starter why did you vote FA at that time ? Do you believe that Frozen Angel is not who she claimed she is and wanted to test her being lynch proof ?

V/LA afterwards

Overall, I think I put him in the same box than Flubbernugget, he did not post enough in my opinion but when he does he tried to sort out the game, by giving his town read and getting reactions out of Heat and Lilith. Also he encouraged Xtoxm to get more content.

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I still have to go through Heat and FireBringer ISOs, but unless something changes dramatically, with what I have re-read so far, I am happy to vote for these twos:

• Xtoxm
  
• Ranger

I will start with the one whose posts I dislike the most. This time should we try to get the vote prepared ahead of the deadline ?
VOTE: Xtoxm

[Aristophanes]

So yeah, Blue is town.

[Amihan]

Not here for long but please explain? I didn't see much reason there other than efforr and I don't think that means town in this case.

[Heat]

okok i reread but I'm still kinda confused about FA's role, but i guess the short story is that its harder to lynch her

um um ngl but now that I'm home I'm having motivation issues

I'm gonna do my best to skim xtoxm's iso when i have a minute tonight, but no promises cause my family "needs attention" and "misses me" but what do they know

[Aristophanes]

Not here for long but please explain? I didn't see much reason there other than efforr and I don't think that means town in this case.

Because this amount of effort from Noobscum is rarely seen, I like his analysis, and I think he is coming at the game from a town perspective.

Did you not get town inclinations from his posts?

[Ranger]

Pretty sure I have seen a scum neighborizer, but its like 10:1 ratio on that I feel.
I have seen like a dozen and vast majority were town.

I'm pretty sure it's 50/50 between them being town/scum. It's a really common scum role. So, my statement stands: judge by play, since judging by role won't give us Xtoxm's alignment.

My role's actually the same way: I'm pretty sure it's a role equally used by town and scum. It'd actually be the

perfect

role for me, if I had slightly stronger reads.
I'm thinking I need a re-think of the game. Aristophanes is actually pinging me a lot, with the desire to lynch Xtoxm, yet also being incredibly open to lynching me, the player Xtoxm is pushing.

[Firebringer]

I'm pretty sure it's 50/50 between them being town/scum. It's a really common scum role. So, my statement stands: judge by play, since judging by role won't give us Xtoxm's alignment

Show me 5 games of scum having the role. It is definitely not that common on this site.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Xtoxm

I don't town read players for roles anymore. Xtoxm has been acting very anti town so he should at least be pressured.