Mini 1764: Netherspite's SORM III [Game Over]

[Aneninen]

VOTE: Yarrgami

and let's eat sushi

[Aneninen]

VOTE: yarrgami
I have role information that tells me this is 100% scum.

Either I'm an idiot or there's no such PR in this Setup.

pick up

Good, Mollie has just hydra-slipped, as always. ^_^
Yarrgami = Mollie + Kagami ?

I assume the snowpirate be jestin', lest confirmed-scurvy be he.

Either Jester or Lyncher. Or scum, who wants us to think this.

I jest not, I know the pirate is scum.
Speedlynch ho!

And THAT's not happening.

[Aneninen]

hi anen!

Hi there!
And actually, hi everyone whom I know!

[Aneninen]

why take it as seroius?

Had it been RVS or joke, he wouldn't have posted this:

I jest not, I know the pirate is scum.
Speedlynch ho!

On the topic of possibility of lyncher, is it best idea to ignore it

I think so too.
He might be a jester, a lyncher, a scum evading getting lynched and/or targetted (of any faction) – right now I don't think we should take the risk of lynching him. Maybe Night1 would reveal something about him. Although, there are so many possible PRs which can screw up everything at Night.
So, basically, I'm ignoring him right now, because I don't have any idea what to do with him.

No lynching is a bad option 95% of the time and is a terrible option here. With the slim majority we have, I don't see any reason to carelessly throw away one of our best chances out taking out a scum/3p and give them a free opportunity to slaughter us.

I totally agree with this.

Sooo
Do we claim role modifiers like other games?

I'd be against it.
Remember what happened in that game!

@Aronis, a read of the roles actually is good ideas. There's some utility to no lynching.

What sort of utility?

No lynching can be a good idea due to the huge amount of info night 1 gives us.

Although we had a scumlynch on Day1 in the last game, all the Night Actions got screwed up and RadiantCowbells exploited them only to win the game for the scums and the Mass Murderer.

We should category claim with 7 players left or when there are only two non town left.

I haven't thought about your idea thoroughly yet, but it seems to be a good idea.

[Aneninen]

Also, that wagon on Yarr is too big.

UNVOTE:

[Aneninen]

Havin' perused the Captain's scribblin's about what kind o' mateys and scurvy dogs be on this vessel, this is what be makin' the most sense to me mind. If the snowpirate wanted to make us walk the plank, he'd have made sure the claim wasn't obviously rubbish and bilgewater. Also, methinks it's unlikely that he has the snowballs to pretend to be a jester in such a manner as a scurvy-ridden seadog.

And what about my other ideas?

By the way, I'm so happy to see that Pirate-ish that I've decided that I'll go on in Orz-ese. Okay?

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[MESSAGE BEGINS...]

You *smell* like *Campers* but not yet enough. We are playing more *word games* and Orz will know.

I want to hear more from shos and aronis, and would like for the squinty-eyed pirate to be standing at attention.

Yes Orz can't *pull their fingers* around them but there are others who has *squirted* too few *colors* yet. Like Firebringer and This is my Username. And Nino and FA_Q has no *colors* never!

Pretty sure yarrrrgami is scum just sayin. And no, I've got a gameplan, I'm neither lyncher nor jester, nor reaction testing. Was hoping to attract a night kill but then I realized strongman was a thing <. <

You can't *HYUIVBHJHG* getting *dissolved* like this. You are an *extra silly cow*. We don't know maybe *Frumple* but not enough?

Pretending to be a role that wins when lynched and loses when dead from not being lynched is a good way to get nkd I'd think.

That sounds like *Camper* but what if *Lonely Frumple*?

lol, no really we aren't. I warned you pple in the sign-ups thread that there wld be pirate speak. kagami is having too much fun with it she is even doing it in our hydra pt.

Did?
Still not *Frumple*, we hope.

I hadn't realized we were using logic so soon.

You have come to our *house*. This is *joke-y sauce*?

I hadn't realized we were using logic so soon.

This is really scummy.
UNVOTE: FA_Q2
VOTE: Rory

*Fat* words. You need to *squirt* more *colors* about this.

[Aneninen]

@Anen: There are at least two roles, one mafia one town that both only work at night if there was a no lynch the day before. The Jailor variants.

Indeed. We think these things weren't on the *playground* last time.
We don't *smell* whether not *dissolving* gets better for *Campers* because of it.

[Aneninen]

Mass claim if we want to theory talk. Otherwise find scum.

*NGAAAAAAH!* No everyone *spreads* their *weapons*!
On the *Playground* before it was the *story*. RadiantCowbells was making a *slippery move* and noone could *pull their fingers* around it. He was *Frumple* and won the *Playground*.
I was explaining!!!

Otherwise find *Frumples*? Good. Who is *Frumple*, Snow-y?

That awkward moment when making a joke on page 3 is not allowed.

Yes, yes that must have been a *silly joke*. But these words were so *slippery*.
*Jokes?*
Yarrr has been making *silly jokes* by *squirting* pirate *colors*. Aneninen has been making *silly jokes* by *squirting* We Are Orz.
Need we feel *sad cows*? We don't *smell* Yarr *Frumple*. Yarr may *smell* Orz *Frumple* but not we think because of *jokes*. We are not *Frumple* and Yarr are not *silly cow*.

*Joke* Orz believe could be from *Camper* originally, but this respond was too *Frumple*.
You are *Frumple*.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rory

why would scum care about a jester
they could joint

Good.
Orz have been trying to *smell* Druuge for a while. You may be *Happy Campers* after all.
Welcome to our *house*!

[Aneninen]

Randomidget, I am explaining truth.
It is only for much fun.
Very little is happening on this *Playground*.
How can we *smell* who's *Camper* and who's *Frumple*?

Rory *smells* *Frumple* but not enough yet.
Yarr and Druuge *smell* *Camper* but not enough yet.

And the others? We don't *smell*.

Can you understand us now?

[Aneninen]

oh. I see.

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VOTE: Aneninen

because fqdhiqdmlifhlmqdhs is a fmhqdslmiqsdhlmqsdh and that means that Aneninen is afimeihaeomiafh

*NGAAAAAAAH!*

Randomidget and Rory *smells* different.
Randomidget explained our *words* were too complicated. He may be *Camper*, annoyed by the Orz.

You made *silly joke* in 73. You explained your *silly joke* in 84 and that *smelt* *Frumple*. And what was your response? We are *alfgbaherigagiufdhg-ing* you say. We are not *alfgbaherigagiufdhg-ing* and you know we are not doing that. Never! Your vote was OMGUS and *Frumple*.

You are *Frumple*.

[Aneninen]

See, Randomidget?
My "Orz-ese" earned me a quite good read on Rory.

[Aneninen]

My vote was totally OMGUS. I'm not Frumple though. I'm not Camper either. I can play with both Frumple and Camper if I need to. I'd rather work with the other Campers, so let's find these Frumples.

So, you can understand our words after all!

I'm also waiting for people to start doing stuff so we can stop making ridiculous posts.

We are explaining the same!!!

I just poked a tiger in the eye. He looks pissed.

There are no tigers here. Orz are here.

So the inky-pirate be claiming to be the yellow-bellied survivin' pirate... He probably be speaking sooth, methinks, but may still be worth it for him to be walking the plank in case he's one o' them scurvy cthulu-loving folk.
But the tautology pirate be scurvy, regardless of what inky pirate be up to.

Inky = Espeonage?
Tautology = This is username?

I think the wagon on rory is pretty bad.

Why?
His way of *squirting* *colors* after (!) the silly *joke* was *Frumple*.

do you know who is missing from this game?
NinoMasaki

Where is Nino? But where is FAQ too?
Some, like Aronis, Shos and Firebringer haven't *squirted* much *colors* too!

[Aneninen]

On second thought, I'm thinking I would prefer policy lynching one of aneninen/yarrrrgami today on account of their unreadable posts.

*NGAAAAAAH!*
You are not trying to *chase* *Frumples*.

yeah no, pretty sure my posts are readable. you aren't even interested in finding scum like you haven't even tried.
VOTE: aronis

Actually they are, and I'm an ESL player.
And I think if anyone has problems with either your posts or mine, they can ask questions or whatever, instead of calling any of us flat-out scum/policy lynch target/whatever

only because of

that.

Omgus much yarrgami?

*Extra silly cow.*
Aronis has never voted for *dissolving* Yarr.

yeah no, pretty sure my posts are readable. you aren't even interested in finding scum like you haven't even tried.
VOTE: aronis

This post was perfectly fine, but 90% of your posts are very difficult to understand. And at least I'm not just omgus voting everytime somebody mentions me in a negative light and posting random gibberish to make it seem like I'm doing something when I'm not.

*NGAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!*
We can understand Yarr's *colors*. No reading difficulties here. They are *squirting* useful *colors*.
Yarr was not OMGUSing.
Rory was OMGUSing and you *squirted* no *colors* about that?
*Frumple.*

Why are their votes on Yarrrgami?
They are my only joy out of this game.

Yes, they are too much fun. I hope they are not *Frumple*. If they are, we Orz will be *sad bubbles*.

VOTE: Aronis
Yarrrgami is my leader!

i want in too
VOTE: aronis

Aronis can be *Lonely Frumple* or *Group Frumple* too.
Does this make Fire-y and Druuge *Campers*? No. On this *Playground* there are too many *Lonely Frumples*. Any might stay in *heavy space* and *chase* who is yet *chased*.

[Okay, that's been a bit confusing. Aronis can be either Group Scum or someone in the Neutral Section – and because of the Setup, jumping on a wagon is a good way to fly under the radar, regardless of the wagoned player's alignment. That'swhy those votes stood out for me. Although, I don't think Druuge's scum and Firebringer has provided very little content so far.]

But we are watching *fishy* *colors* and never afraid of *jumping in front*.

VOTE: Netherspite because lynch the mod???

*NGAAAAAAH!*
This is not the *joke game* Orz like on Page5. Could be *Frumple* trying to look funny *Camper*.
And we know this logic could be true for Yarr and us too.

Apparently somewhere along the way I missed the announcement about this game being full of trolls.

Trolls? Where are trolls? Trolls are not here. Orz are here.

we are town btw!
there isn't a whole lot to chew on here. I am assuming the bs wagon is an rvs 1.

This rubbed me kinda wrong.

Did 31 *smell* bad?
But you were wanting to *dissolve* Yarr in 23, 28 and 63. Two of them happened earlier. If those were only funny *colors*, why did you choose Yarr for that *chase trick*?
Or are 23 and 118 not connected to each other?

[Aneninen]

You can ask questions.

[Aneninen]

Even if you don't think so, I

do

have a goal with those posts. (And soon they'll be over.)
Also, you too can ask questions, if something's not clear.

[Aneninen]

SS is going to get sorted out, Rory doesn't have the mentality for his play to be scum driven, Aronis' request for time so that a push can come to fruition isn't being respected, Yarr is trying a posting style and actually engaging. I do not like a single pushed player for scum right now.

Maybe I can agree; I disagree; I don't think his request has anything to do with the reads on him; I can see no problems with them.
In that order.

Vote: droog

You however aren't engaging with anyone, and asking for clarification on things when there is other meantime stuff that can be addressed doesn't count.

Actually I have this playstyle from him before and he was town.

VOTE: droog
Sure.

Please, tell me why I have to think Rory's town.

since its only page 6
im not that concerned nothing caught me yet

I think I expressed something similar before. Almost nothing has happened so far, and there are quite a couple of players who's provided little-to-no content.

[Aneninen]

hey 3dr

Hey droog
Have we mass claimed yet?

its on page 3

And that was a scummy question, considering it's only Page6.
I don't think it would have been too hard to browse through mere six pages for a massclaim (which is not a thing could be missed easily whil'st reading).
And I think that answer came from a townie trying to perform a reaction test (or something like that).

Aronis posted by page 2, so he's probably town.

What makes you think so?

I'm just not going to read anen's posts.

This made me laugh so hard because it's what I've been doing.

You're not reading my posts but you vote for me. La wow.

I'm just not going to read anen's posts.

This made me laugh so hard because it's what I've been doing.

In all honesty - same here.

See my next post! And this goes for everyone.

Seems to me as though he be claiming survivor, which be difficult to get rid of in any way that don't involve plank-walkin', and he be sure to mutiny against us once the opportunity be arising, lest he be violating the captain's orders.

What makes you think so?

oh THIS was the game I got a prod in

Anenimen's posts are a pain to read and understand so I've been ignoring them like some others have. I think it's possible that they're doing this to avoid putting as much input into this game, but I can't see much scum intent in it.

Spoiler:

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

Is that ALL you've managed to conclude out of the game so far?

[Aneninen]

And, as I said before, the Orz-ese posts are over – and I bet some of you might have guessed that I'd had a goal with them: checking all the reactions.
Actually it was Yarr who'd given me the idea with all those pirate-posts.

Yarr

caught up with the wording and even "included" it 'till a certain point in their answer. This actually matched my thoughts that they're town.

Espeonage

too read them and gave an answer for something he was interested in. (Although he might have reacted to an older post.) He might be town too.

If I'm right,

Druuge

partly reacted to my posts in 82, but if not, I still don't think he's scum. As I expressed this before.

Randomidget

's answer looked genuine, too. I mean, a townie who wants to get reads but gets frustrated because he can't.

Rory

's answer was the worst, as I expressed before. I bet he

was

able to understand why I was voting for him but he acted as if he had not. It strengthened my scumread on him.

Aronis

with that policy lynch post made an excuse for not doing anything. (Mind that he included Yarr too, not only me.) Another scummy reaction.

Firebringer

shamelessly sheeps, even buddies Yarr, which is not a good sign. His 130 (Yarr is more entertaining and easier to read) may be a genuine reaction, though. I don't know what to think of him.

As for

3Dice

, it depends on why he voted for me. Maybe his answer will reveal something.

And finally,

This is my username

's reaction was just as worst as Rory's, although a "different kind of bad". Instead of producing content, he mentioned only me and NOTHING else had happened in the game since his last post (72). Even worse, he did NOT even had a read on me at all.

________

TL;DR:
Town-ish reactions: Yarr, Espeonage, Randomidget
Scummy reactions: Rory, Aronis, This is my username
I don't know what to think reactions: Firebringer, 3Dice (this may change), Druuge (my read is not based upon his reaction)


By the way, I found it very strange that those who said they had been unable to understand my posts, had asked nothing about their content.

[Aneninen]

I left out FA_Q2 in the post above, but he's mostly in the I don't know section, or very slight town-ish. He reacted relatively late, his reaction may be genuine, although he might have been involved in other things.

[Aneninen]

Oh man, you bit so hard on that vote, it's great.

Not really.
I only want to hear the story behind.

Seems to me as though he be claiming survivor, which be difficult to get rid of in any way that don't involve plank-walkin', and he be sure to mutiny against us once the opportunity be arising, lest he be violating the captain's orders.

What makes you think so?

My vote was totally OMGUS. I'm not Frumple though. I'm not Camper either. I can play with both Frumple and Camper if I need to. I'd rather work with the other Campers, so let's find these Frumples.

Oh, that. I can imagine at least two other things behind that. (Assuming he understood my posts well.)

[Aneninen]

shos is scum btw, I think

Why?

kagami, the beautiful pirate, has anen as town. I am going to listen to her.

I feel like when I do not want to read his posts he is town.

this dates back to his newbie game.

he is a player who does better with more info I think.

OFF

When I have time to make the "quotes about me" section, can I include the highlighted parts?
(Acutally, the later one is not a bad description. Although, I'd say, and this is another Ur-Quan Masters reference, I'm just like the Chenjesu Broodhome starship. Hits hard, it's never easy to take it down, but slow as f-ck and way overrated. ^_^ )

I wanna see where this goes:

VOTE: droog

I still don't get this wagon at all.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: 3dicerolling
Still haven't forgiven you for SORM II

Is this vote useful for us?

Oh, that. I can imagine at least two other things behind that. (Assuming he understood my posts well.)

And what would those be?
At the very least, that is a claim for 3p and that is anti town.
VOTE: Rory

Cult, is what I'm afraid of the most.
A slow-played Jester is also possible.
Obviously, I wouldn't rule out a lying Mafia too.
However, there's one Role which could help us a lot. Namely, the Amnesiac.

1) This is your scum reaction to my vote. I had clearly just replaced in a not read anything yet, so I asked droog as simple amoral question. You are attempting to misrepresent the question as something scummy, and your justification makes no sense whatsoever.
2) Have you not played with aronis at all?
3) I didn't say I never read your posts. At some points in the thread, you have had posts that made actual sense, but for the posts you made complete gibberish, I ignored.

(1) I don't think we've played together before. And I don't like your question.
(2) Honestly, I don't remember.
(3) So, some of my posts made sense, some were ignored. Why did you vote for me then? Random vote? Pressurizing? Reaction test?

[Aneninen]

You alluded to changing gears because of strongman - a role that is not present in this game. The arsonist is the closest we get however it would not have any effect on drawing the NK. Essentially, your claims and then the back peddle away from it was absolute garbage and you have not bothered to go into it. You are absolutely scum.

Snarky, I want to ask something easier.
You started the game with a fake-claim.
Since then you've had some posts, and all of them made more-or-less sense – but when I ISO you, I can see that your posts are not consistent with each other.
Why?

3P - lynch candidate. 3P's are inherently anti town no matter how much they claim to want to play for town. It is against their win con not to jump to the other side of the fence when the opportunity presents itself as better. It certainly does not behoove us to wait until lylo when that knife in the back ensures they win and scum have absolutely nothing to fear from a 3p.

That's actually true.
I *might* believe a third party would help us 'till a certain point, but they're absolutely NOT motivated in fighting against anything anti-town.

There's 7 town, 3 mafia and 3 neutrals.
I can help town have 8 town.
Or you can lynch me and I move on. Your choice.

That description fits the Amnesiac. But, I think that PR would choose the side it's easier to win with. And we're back to the thing FA_Q pointed out. That's my problem.
(Or Rory's simply lying and he's Cult or something just as harmful.)

[Aneninen]

what was your wincon

I was cultist.

THat means you are a auditor this game!!

Where did this conclusion come from? Or was it a joke that I missed?

[Aneninen]

I can beat that.
I'm not actually a survivor.
How's that?

You soft claimed amnesiac right?
It should be clear whether you are telling the truth soon enough.

I thought the same.
If not, what remains. Survivor. Might help us by eating up a couple of Nightkills. Jester. Brave move but how does that help? Auditor. Either helps or not. Judge. I don't even understand that.
Only Survivor and Jester could win alongside with the town.

This is good.
I claim not survivor as well.

Why was it important to tell us this?

VOTE: snarkeysnowman

Can we please get some damn traction here. His posts and attempts to disregard his own claims while acting as though he is not simply screams scum and town is letting this garbage simply pass.

Actually that's not a bad place to vote.

The aronis and yarrrgami wagons are trash.
Rory wagon is decent, but an anenin wagon would be dope.

yah
VOTE: anen

(sigh)
How many times do I have to pay for that game, Shos? ^_^

[Aneninen]

Catching up soon.
I've looked into the game without reading the new posts thoroughly, and I have a naive question.
Am I the only one who thinks we're talking too much about the third parties while there's a whole Mafia team out there?

[Aneninen]

There is one more pirate going under the radar, and he's starting to ping scummy.

Which one?
This one below?

Srry guys. I forgot about this.
And just policy lynch them with me snarky. So much easier then having to ask for a translation every five seconds.

One more post about policy lynches and I'll DayVig you. Regardless of what kind of PR I actually have.

So umm what did I miss?

See above!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: no lynch

Why?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: no lynch

why

Ok, I just got here and it's painfully obvious, even to me.

I'm all ears.

However, we already have claimed 3rd parties. So, assuming they aren't town fake claiming 3rd party, we can guarantee that we don't lynch town.

I can't see any benefit for a townie faking a Third Party PR. However, I can see

damn good reasons

for a Mafia (or a Third Evil) to fake Third Party PR.
Actually Xkfyu's 289 pretty much explains everything.

if we lynch a 3rd party
the other 2 3rd parties will resent us

And why for the sake of all the dancing little nymphs need we care how much the other third parties will resent us? The Neutral Killing is someone we should get rid of, and the same goes for eg. Cult/Auditor (their WinCon don't match ours). What you're saying might be true for certain Neutral Benign PR-s but we don't even know whether they exist at all.

couldnt "town random" become "vt"?

No.
Random Townies are PRs randomized from the Town-PR categories. There's one Government, Protective, Investigative and Killing. The other three could fall into any of those categories. (With certain restrictions.)

I'm down with a massclaim. I am Busdriver.

Stop massclaiming.
That's how we started going down last time.
Also, I think this claim was actually fake.

[Aneninen]

Druuge: Link

TL;DR story:
We claimed categories (and obviously, half of the claims were fake), and the speculation started instantly, like "too many players have claimed Investigatives" etc. Then there was Night1, the Mafia Janitor (RadiantCowbells) impersonated their Nightkill, and we started to organize all our Night Actions and everything around the claims we'd known. Theories and ideas came and went, but man, we were wrong all the time.

You can ask Shos too. He was the Mass Murderer there. He won along with the Mafia and the Auditor.

It almost be as if the snowpirate be

wantin'

to walk the plank...

...could be. Weren't we thinking the same earlier?

usually it is scum who worries about indies but I think they are actually dim town. I feel like scum are in aronis and shos.

None of them are doing anything. One of them could be a lurk-scum but I don't think

both

of them. I'd say Aronis, because Shos's [according to Site Rules I'm not allowed to explain this]. And at least one of them must be amongst those "speculator players".

[Aneninen]

And we are getting a N1 result list REGARDLESS of the outcome of the lynch. Why do you people keep acting like we're not?

Who said that?

Please claim Aronis.

At L–4 or so?

Yarrrrgami cannot even vote properly

Whut?
You care about everything but scumhunting.

How about we all play one o' me favorite games for long voyages like this.
It be called "Stop talkin' to the snowpirate, he be a jestin' deckhand."
The rules be pretty self-explanatory.

Yarrgami, I like you. But I don't think Snow is a jester. That is jsut a easy way to dismiss him.

He may or may not be a Jester... what a shame would it be if he died at Night trolololol!

He was reffering to SORM Ihe missed the game not you. In that game town got screwed over by a massclaim (especially my fault)

Yeah, I actually didn't remember who was that Nightkill at Night1. However, it wasn't your fault, I think.

VOTE: aronis
This should be 5.

Is there a reason for that, or are you just hopping on a wagon?

Wait-oh. You did the very same right before Shos...
Or was that a pressurizing vote to make Aronis post something relevant?

By the way,
Aronis.
Read list. Now.

[Aneninen]

Who said what? That we are getting a N1 result list? Or the ones that are acting like we're not?

Who made a correlation between NoLynch and N1 results?

As for the other part, I asked the same in my post.

[Aneninen]

RM and shos have both tried to talk us into no lynching using "to get N1 results" as support for their arguments.

I don't think "going for NoLynch" and "getting N1 Results" were connected to each other.

Unless your point WAS to actually soft claim Jailor. In which case, I would just consider you a named townie, unless there was a counter claim, and still not support a no lynch, because we are still virtually guaranteed to not lynch town today.

Counterclaiming PR-s are worth pigeon poop in this Setup. It's totally possible to have eg. two Vigs.
And we're not performing NoLynch.

I be thinkin' hypno-ring pirate is just being his usual self, and his "push" for a No Lynch be not motivated by his duties as a deckhand, scurvy or no.

He's pretty much null so far, but he's not a priority Today.

I just had the most wonderful vision, in which we put Aronis, Frequently-be-askin-question pirate, sneaky-sneak pirate, inky-pirate, snowpirate, and scaryclown pirate on a lifeboat, let them drift about 50 yards from our vessel, and blew them all to pieces with some well-aimed cannonfire.

Lololol!

Aronis – so agreed.
FA_Q – not so agreed.
Sneaky-Sneak – who is he or she?
Snow – my guess for a jester; it would be bast to plank him at Night
Rory – so agreed. By the way, the whole "let me help you" thingy tells me that he could be Cult. If so, the sooner he feeds the sharks, the better it is.
Druuge – not agreed.

I will get to this tomorrow, I'm not feeling very well.

Get well soon!

[Aneninen]

@aneninen sneaky-sneak pirate is espeonage

Okay.
Yarr, I don't know what you can see there then.

The thing be this: If a scurvy dog walks the plank, there won't be any scurvy dogs gettin' their throats slit tonight unless it be a non-scurvy deckhand who did the deed. The third party killin' type will be incentivized to go for a non-scurvy kill, since they won't be wantin' to reduce the number of survy dogs too quick-like.
[...]
That's even ignorin' the possibility that inky pirate is simply speaking falsehoods, and is some other sort o' scurvy type.

I think the first part is quite speculative. However, the last sentence is very true, especially because he could be a Cthulhu-fan too.

Why are you guys unvoting aronis?

Weren't you townreading him?

also i still think its worth noting
that if we lynch rory automatically for claiming
the other 2 neutrals will joint wit scum

It's just as speculative as Yarr's.
Firstly, there are so many possible Third Party PRs. Secondly, even if they will work against us, they don't know more about the Mafia team as we do. (Some PRs may know more later, but so are we!)

The odds of us hitting town are 7/13. That's incredibly low compared to most games. And info is only going to help us so much when 1-3 townies end up dead and we dont possess a majority anymore.

This is one of the few reasons I'm not voting aronis. This is a really town minded statement and it holds truth here.

Any anti-town player can post things like that.

I'm still kind of conflicted on him tbh. I have hard a difficult time reading aronis when I play with him.

That's okay. For Today.

Are you suddenly floundering on your Aronis read? I don't remember you being a flounderer.

Conflicted =/= floundering
You can talk to me about my Aronis read if you would like, or you could be scum and try to mis-represent me. Your choice.

And so starts a pointless fight. (Or at least, my intuition says so.)

Going on soon.

[Aneninen]

On phone so I'll keep it succinct. Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that Xk is trying to strongarm himself in to a leader position? Because it feels fishy to me. Yarr's argument for Rory makes sense so I will probably compromise to there.

Unless Xk is a mason leader or something then it is def dodgy.

I do have an idea what his game is, but explaining it right now would be speculative (and might result a premature claim) – and if I'm right, it will be revealed on Day2 at latest.

By the way,
Aronis.
Read list. Now.

Uhh, no thanks.

Spoiler:

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!

Okay, i will be back tomorrow with more super helpful obvtown posts if im still alive!

*Rolling a d20. Scoring a 17.*
I don't believe this.

[Aneninen]

I don't feel good about Anen this game either guys, something about his posts doesn't say he is scumhunting but is just trying to look like he is.

I don't think I have less reads than you have.
One thing is true, though; I'm focusing on a couple of players becuase spotting all the 6 anti-town players on Day1 would be impossible for me. Flips and Night1 results will definitely help a lot.

Yarr, 410 – okay, got it.

in which case
rory nedes to reveal his win con
or theres no compelling reason to lynch

Do you think he'd tell the truth if he were eg. Cult or Mass Murderer?

basically anen
if you say that 3rd parties could work with us
because of their win con
youre contradicting yourself
if you think we dont need rory's win con
to lynch him

Firsly, see right above!
Secondly, let me rephrase it then. I don't think Third Parties would work for us. Maybe for a short while, but definitely not whole game. But even if some of them were willing to, they don't know more about the Mafia team as we do. That'swhy I think some players are speculating over events that may not show up at all.

VOTE: unvote: aronis
not feeling that anymore

Why?
He's done nothing pro-town so far.

[Aneninen]

I'm down with a massclaim. I am Busdriver.

interesting. You could busdrive me with the most likely nightkill. I can activate my vest at any time, so this might save a kill.

Such a plan cannot fail... unless Snarky doesn't find the most likely nightkill. Unless someone interferes. Unless at least one of you is lying.

Secondly, let me rephrase it then. I don't think Third Parties would work for us. Maybe for a short while, but definitely not whole game. But even if some of them were willing to, they don't know more about the Mafia team as we do. That'swhy I think some players are speculating over events that may not show up at all.

its worth requiring a claim

Which may be real or may be fake.

The way I see it is there are six anti-town people who would love to get me mislynched and will do anything to have that happen including ignoring my obvtown status. So unless I somehow get seven votes, I'm obvtown and that's just scum trying to mislynch me.

Whut?
Are you saying that if you stop at L–1 without a hammer all the players on your wagon are anti-town?

pagetop!
(x2 in a row)

Yet another pearl of scumhunting from Aronis.
And people call

me

useless throughout the whole forum.

Aronis' play and reaponse to his wagon warrants scum vibes.
The compariaon of odds to other games is stupid, because this is not a nirmal game and we MUST rely on different scums hitting each other.
Consider it thia way - everyone who is NOT town prefers there to be a lynch.

So your strategy is no lynch all day every day while scum shoot each other??? You do realize that like half or so of the 3party/scum are prob bulletproof and we will need to lynch them right?
Another scum found!!
VOTE: shos

There were a couple of players suggesting NoLynch. Are you scumreading all of them?
By the way, where did Shos say he'd go for NoLynch every Day?

How about we just send the 3rd party who we know to be musketball-proof off the plank right now?

It's okay for me, but not because of going for a safe-lynch (to avoid lynching a townie) – because I think Rory's lying. As Survivor he could have claimed it clearly and early or could have stayed low completely. He keeps telling that we shouldn't lynch him because he'll be useful later tells me he wants to live

just another Day

– which, actually, perfectly makes sense if he's Cult.
Meanwhile, on the other hand, we should work on finding the Mafia too. Aronis could be one of them.

got an idea
as to who the 6 anti-town are?

Patience. I am working on it. So far I've found that x-something person and shos!

all right ive come around
i like you
you can be town

Druuge!
What U R doing?
Druuge!
Stahp!
What was town eg. in his 427?

Post-edit.
Yarr has just posted the same I wanted about Rory.

[Aneninen]

I May or May not still be bulletproof

The other Third-Party being Bulletproof is Lyncher. I don't think we'd need that alive.
Nor any of the Arsonist–Mass Murderer–SK trio.
Or you're Godfather.

[Aneninen]

And I'm very certain if he was town citizen he would have outright claimed it.

And he claimed Third Party instead, even if he backpedalled later.
The more he posts the surer I am that he's Cult. Feel free to accuse me of selective scumhunting, I f-cking don't care.

VOTE: Shos

And here comes our Jester.
Jumping off the wagon as it gets clearly bigger than any other ones and throwing out a vote without any case or whatsoever.
It would be best to DayVig him, alongside with Aronis. If only we had that one.

As for this. A message for "someone" out there. If I'm right and you're Marschall, even if it's not entirely your fault, you f-cked it up. You f-cked it up seriously. I hope someone protective can see the same as I do. Assuming I'm not an idiot.

[Aneninen]

anyway, espe does feel town

Feel. I'd phrase it in the same way. Or at least, I remember having the same feeling at some point of the game. Plus his early-reactions.

Randomidget is probtown too.

He could be town. Despite his terrible NoLynch thing.

This guy is really newbtown

[That was about Sharky.]
Nnnnnnnnnnnnn. I think he's Jester or something anti-town. But, because of his eintritt, I doubt he's Mafia.

oh actually in this setup it might be more fucked up than I think

Actually it was just as f-cked up last time...

because scum can easily pushing 3p lynches
because 'its the town action'

I doubt scums (if you meant Mafia by that) would care too much whether they're pushing a mislynch or a Third Party.

Jesus fuck anen, it's like, every single game I play with you, there comes a time, (after like 2-3 posts) where I stop reading your posts

Remind me post-game to put this among the "quotes about me" section on my Wiki (as soon as I update it). ^_^

Why are you trying to make me look scummy, regardless of whether I answer or not?
If I don't, then I look scummy for avoiding questions.
If I do, then it looks like I'm answering just because you called me out for it...which also looks scummy.

As for my Wiki, this!
Aneninen#The_Regardless_Of_Card
Aaaaaaaaaaand FINALLY, I've managed to use this tell in a situation I haven't been involved in directly.

This post is rather empty considering its length. I don't think anything here is actually deserving the attention re: helping me get reads on anyone or anen.

Oh come on, compared to my usual posting style, that was a relatively short one.
And it meant sense at that point. Actually, many of my reads there have been strengthened since then.

Good stuff.

Weren't you townreading Sharky before?

it seems to me that today's lynch will probably be one of Snowman and Rory. both claimed some sort of 3p, either survivor, or auditor, or whatever else there is in this game that can supposedly help town. We're not letting them be.

Snowman could be Jester.

[Aneninen]

Quickpost

Ive been busdriven :/

^^
Confirming that. I've been at the other hand. (Assuming there's only one Bus-Driver.)
And something else has also happened to me, which was supposed to happen to Shos. And I think that could have been a Mafia action.

[Aneninen]

Wait-oh.
Didn't Sharky claimed Bus-Driver?

[Aneninen]

Doesn't Busdriving mean that the actions performed ON US were swapped?
Mobilepost anyway

[Aneninen]

Checked and fck. It's one directional. Eg. Actions on Shos targetted me instead of him OR vice versa.
Then I was the receiving end and actions on me stayed on me...?

[Aneninen]

No. Its swapped. Sorry for spamming. I read it wrong without my glasses.

[Aneninen]

Still from mobile but I have been thinking.
If it is worth it, I can confirm Shos to a certain extent in two steps.
If agreed: if we have another Busdriver, claim your targets.
In this situation that's all I can help.

[Aneninen]

I'm still at work.
As far as I understand the actions on us got changed. Not our actions. So Shos you indeed targetted Aronis.
FAQ. I got a PM about getting busdriven.

[Aneninen]

Did you learn anything useful about Aronis?

I still think we need to know whether there's another Bus-Driver too.

[Aneninen]

So, now both of us are waiting.

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.
I believe Shos.
Until my assumption about the Night gets caveat-ed, I consider him Not Mafia, which is at least something we can work with. I'm doing so because of *reasons*. Hint: Fire did more good than harm.

[Aneninen]

Although there might be two Jesters. That is not a unique PR.

[Aneninen]

Some random thoughts.

As for the death note. The Mod says:

Every time a player with

neutral or mafia killing role

submits a night kill choice they may also specify any text as a "Death Note".This text will be revealed along with the flip if the target will die from that night kill.

Therefore, the note

"Pro-town killing role did this"

is pigeon poop. Unless there's another Bus-Driver (whose claim, I still think, would be essential for getting more information), it must have left by a Neutral Killing. (Mafia just couldn't shoot themselves, could they?) This essentially means, the Neutral Killing is a Serial Killer. (Unless the Mass Murderer can leave a message. Shos? You were the Mass Murderer in the last game!)

Also,
let's see the death flavours.

Police report that Firebringer died.

There were signs of struggle.

He was also riddled with bullets at close range.He was a Town Bus Driver.

Xkfyu met an unfortunate end last night.

His body was severely battered with many broken bones. He had multiple stab wounds.

He was a Mafia Consort. We found a death note on his corpse: "Pro-town killing role did this"

I wonder whether the

"There were signs of struggle"

part means anything.
On the other hand, the highlighted part in Xkfyu's flavour may refer to two different Nightkills.
What do you all think?

There's only one slot that can be jester though (neutral benign)

In theory, there can be two Neutral Benigns and both of them can be Jesters. Although, the chance is very low.

I'm so dumb, I forgot to submit my night action

oh good i dont have to be the only one

I don't know whether I should face-palm or find these scummy. (Maybe the first one? In my last SK game I almost forgot to Nightkill...)
Nevertheless, because of this, we shouldn't massclaim yet.
If they're town, we'll get much less information than desired, whereas the scums (any factions) will aquire ample amount of information to pick a Nightkill.
If they're scum, they can lie almost anything they want.

Sending Aronis to feed the sharks still makes more sense though, unless he has something important to say. I doubt he's the self-plank-walkin' funny type as spinny-ring pirate be claiming, but we could send no-one off the plank and let you throw him in the brig as a safe alternative.

We need to sort out whether Shos's conclusion is right.
Also, shouldn't we go on scumhunting in the traditional way?

[Aneninen]

Shortpost, need to work soon.

I'm not sure whether I understand you right.
Do you mean Xkfyu was bussing Aronis?
Also, what do you think of my ideas and thoughts above?

[Aneninen]

If aronis claims, I may confirm what I think.
Tgere is strict analysis to death flavors, so we ahould di that, or ask tge mod. Last game I played ika immediately knew whoch kill was whose.

(1) Agreed.
(2) I've already posted my ideas. What do you think of them?
Everyone else can answer (2).

@aneninen I was the MM not shos. I don't remember being able to, and I've got a feeling deathnotes were added in this iteration.

No, no, it wasn't a part of the role PM, just part of th erules. everyone just forgot about it.

That Death Note text was there last game. I've checked it.
So, the existence of an SK seems to be confirmed.

VOTE: FA_Q2

Care to give us details?

________

My request is still on. If you're a Bus-Driver, please claim!

[Aneninen]

It must have been terribly hard to make that Vote Count in a fast-paced game like this... ^_^

[Aneninen]

Coo-Coo?

[Aneninen]

.

[Aneninen]

Is this the time where I autolynch you?

Yeah, it's time to start our usual fight. You launch your case on me, I explain everything, you dig up a couple of posts where I lied, I deny them and post even bigger lies, you fail to convince the others at LyLo, I endgame as scum even if I absolutely don't deserve it.
That's how it works. ^_^

[Aneninen]

But I think I'll disappoint you now, Shos, because there's a chance that I can confirm you're not Mafia, so I need to do so first.

Did anyone targetted Shos with anything?

[Aneninen]

anyawy. we have TWO people who "forgot" to use their night actions, and this is suspicious as hell, and they are our today pool

this looks like an admission
that you never had any strong reads at all

That looks like utter trash.

Yeah, which is part of why I think shos is scum and should be lynched.

Oh, seems I've forgotten to VOTE: shos

^^
Players who are afraid of Shos's PR.

Be we forgettin' that aronis is still pretty clearly a scurvy-ridden scoundrel?

Not until there's a chance he's Jester.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if one of the lazy deckhands who didn't report to the captain is the king o' scurvy.

If I get this right, I too wouldn't rule this out. If that "King o'scurvy" exist at all.

He pushed Aronis virtually all day. I don't see Aronis as being scum with our Xy. Do you think he was busing?

Good point. Xk's attack on Aronis looked genuine, especially if we consider the fact that Aronis was in the lynch-pool without Xk too.

Ont that same vein:

On phone so I'll keep it succinct. Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that Xk is trying to strongarm himself in to a leader position? Because it feels fishy to me. Yarr's argument for Rory makes sense so I will probably compromise to there.

Unusual timing for such a statement had he been his scum partner. I don't think Espionage is a good direction to go either. There was a bit of back and fourth over 3dice as well that is making me lean away from that direction.

Xy's interactions with Aneninen are not sitting well with me. 486 (quoted above) feels forced and expletive of why they had similar reads without the actual need to say as much.

I don't know what to think about Espeonage.
I too noticed that Xk tried to take control of the town, but Yesterday I thought Xk was a badly-played Marschall. (I even hinted it somewhere.) I know it's easy to be clever now, but I should have noticed that he used the concepts like "Regardless of Card" (from my wiki) without any doubts, questions, etc. Whereas most players call those "Aneninen-tells" silly at best.

Firebringer's town read seems strange here. I don't see why fire was town read at this point particularly over anyone else. All other null except fire and yarr. At least yarr had a reason to town read.
Anyone else have anything catch their eye from that slot.

I don't know why his Firebringer read is relevant now.
As for the last part (I assume that was a question), I'll check his ISO later.

Can we proceed with any lynch in {snowman, 3rd, droog}

Assuming you're right about Aronis, I'll prefer this:

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

That seemed kind of forced from FA_Q2.

Why?
I think he brought up quite good points.

[Aneninen]

I think Randomidget and FA_Q are town. Randomidget's reactions are townish, including the fact he was the only player who actually answered my question. FA_Q has done the most effort for breaking the stall we're in, which alone is a towntell for me.

[Aneninen]

From Xkfyu's ISO.

No read on Snarky, but figure he'll be sorted out through night actions, so not interested in lynching him. Same goes for Rory, really.
Everyone else is straight up null for me, right now.

Hmm-hmm-hmm, null on everyone, but mentioning Snarky separately. (And he was already a viable lynch target at that time, as far as I can remember.)

certainly
not all the neutrals can win
if they want town support
they should compete for it

This is pretty much along the lines of what I'm thinking. We just need to make sure that we have a clear advantage. Otherwise, they probably won't care too much about having town support.

Oh, that theoretical talk about all the third parties. I don't know whether this interaction looks bad on Druuge.

Meanwhile, he pushed Randomidget. Another town point for him then.

In post 308, SnarkySnowman wrote:
I'm down with a massclaim. I am Busdriver.

Stop massclaiming.
That's how we started going down last time.
Also, I think this claim was actually fake.

Considering that this was the second time he has actually claimed, and that no one actually agreed to a mass claim, I'd say it's a pretty good bet that it's fake.

Information instead of Analyses?

I don't quote this dialogue because of its lenght but it's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 360 !!!!!!!!!!!!

The types that be dancin' round hopin' for dead cthulhu to rise again from the briny deep in his palace o' R'lyeh. They also be lovin' that fishy Dagon fellow.
They be dancin' round their idols, hopin' that cthulhu be opening the gate in reality so that the realm o' Yog-Sothoth be invadin' us; those types.

Bad news, they be.

I'm following you now.
UNVOTE: Aronis
VOTE: Rory

Wasn't he against lynching Snowman and Rory for the same reason before?

His interactions with 3-Dice seems to be genuine. (I won't quote that, it's very long.)

What I've seen has convinced me that Yarr is town, and what they have said makes a lot of sense. I'll continue to talk it out about the best way to approach today but, like I said, I'm perfectly happy with sheeping Yarr, until I can find a good reason not to.

I don't think he sheeped his scumbuddy.

________

TL;DR.
Although this post is long, it didn't tell me new things. His most possible partner is Snowman and based upon his interactions I don't think either of these is Mafia: Aronis, Randomidget, FA_Q, Yarr.

[Aneninen]

Obviously, Xkfyu's push on Aronis was probably pigeon poop. (Although we can't rule out that he was scumhunting for real, I mean, searching for a 3rd Party player.) But, I don't think Aronis handled Xk differently than anyone else (as far as I can remember), and scums may act differently whenever their partner is attacking them.
More importantly, it's not Xk's push in itself. It's the timing of the whole stuff. Day1 Bussing itself can be detrimental in a Setup like this. But, at that time Aronis's wagon, as the leading one topped at L–2 (on Page14, I've just checked it) and an Aronis-lynch was a real possibility. (Although Xk jumped on the Rory-wagon at the end of next page.)
I must admit, my read may be bias-ed because of Shos calling him a Jester and the fact that I can imagine Snowman as Xk's Mafia partner strengthens this.

[Aneninen]

Almost every word of this pigeon scribblin' is nonsense.
Why is Day 1 bussing detrimental on this voyage? This is exactly the sort o' voyage where pushing a buddy off the plank Day 1 be a pretty good idea. On most voyages, where it actually is detrimental to offing your own buddy in scurvyness, are Day 1 scurvy-lynches entirely composed of non-scurvy dogs?
Why, if letters-pirate wanted to see Aronis become shark-food, does he attack the next prod on the wagon so hard? Why is he so happy to jump off so soon?
He never, ever "pushes" Aronis. He was ignoring Aronis until it looked like aronis was likely to be feedin' the sharks. Then he hopped on the wagon with little justification, then hopped off again, occasionally tossing out a "aronis be scurvy" remark while voting inky-pirate.

You could be right.
What do you think of Snowman? Am I right about him or is he Jester?
We should really sort this out unless we end up lynching the Jester.
Who has any ideas?

Also, I've been checking a couple of things. Shos can't be Mafia, nor Third-Party. Therefore, noone need answer my previous questions. I know what I know so consider him confirmed town until I'm saying the opposite – and the chance for doing so is <1%.

So you say he may be a survivor?
With that kind of play?
I lol @ thee

Someone must help him out somehow.

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.
We're not lynching Shos. Period.

[Aneninen]

and really
if i was scum

why wouldnt i bother making a fakeclaim
do you tihkn 2 of us put this brilliant plan together
where'd we'd all claim to forget?

Before reading this I'd been thinking about those "no actions". I thought one of them might be scum, but not both of them. If there's a scum in 3Dice/Druuge, Druuge is more likely, because he simply joined the "no action" claims.
This post, which is trying to "glue" the two events to each other, strengthens my read.

this is even lamer
you admit that you have no great scumreads
so instead of doing anything to find new ones

you invent some explanation of how forgetting nightactions
is the scummiest thing imaginable

Also, I think you're just trying to discredit Shos.

For the record, 3dr, I believe you. I think you are legit; but the fact that droog suddenly jumped with 'oh yeah woo hoo look im not the only one who forgot' seems like scum trying to buddy with town AND rid themselves of the need to invent night actions that, in this game, are eaaaasily comprisable when lying.

^^
I'm parrotting that.

Sure he could be scum.
But right now I'm focused on the guy trying to "distraction control" aka policy lynch at this point in the game.
It's trash.

Did you mean Espeonage? Why do you think so?

[Aneninen]

Also, I think you're just trying to discredit Shos.

i am

because i think hes scum

Enough outta dis.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Druuge

[Aneninen]

That seemed kind of forced from FA_Q2.

This from the slot that has added essentially zip thus far - pushed a no lynch and hoped on the easy wagon. Now, trying to analyze the dead scum is 'forced.' What the fuck are we supposed to do to scum hunt - ignore the flip as you have clearly done?
I cant see a way that you are town at all.
VOTE: randomdigit

I don't think Randomidget's scum. Partly because of Xk's interactions with him.

@Aronis, Aneninen - do you think Snowman is scum?

Either scum or Jester. I can imagine him as Xk's partner but, obviously, as Jester he'd definitely do scummy things. And he's done quite a few...

My lynchpool right now consists of
Snowman
Aronis
Druuge

By the way,

Mod

, Aronis is in the prod zone.

[Aneninen]

If you think he is likely a jester then why are you voting for him? Scum will let us lynch him and then we lose another townie on top of it.

I'm voting for Druuge.

[Aneninen]

Besides, FAQ, I don't know how I could resolve the Aronis and/or Snowman is/are scum or one of them (both of them?) are Jester(s) question Today. Snowman hasn't posted anything to work with (besides scumreading Shos, which is pigeon poop). Aronis has done literally nothing for days.

[Aneninen]

Jesturrr

Either Jester or scum impersonating one.

Here comes the other contestant for that role:

I still don't get why people are still paying attention to Aronis and why nobody thinks Shos is scum. I'm pretty convinced :/

Listen! (Doo-dah-doo)
Do you want to know a secret? (Doo dah-doo)
Do you promise not to tell
O-Woh-uh-oooh-oooh... Jester (Doo dah-doo)
Or a scum with Xykf-u (Doo-dah-doo)
The problem with the "case" you ru-uh-uh-uh-un:
SHOS IS NOT SCUM!
Uh-Wo-hu-woh-oh..

[Aneninen]

By the way,

Mod

, Espeonage and Randomidget are in the Prod Zone too!

Maybe I'll earn their votes too because of pointing this out. ^_^

[Aneninen]

Anenin, I will trade you one funny spongebob video for a vote on espeonage.

Is that more urgent than Druuge?

Snowman, 685. That's typically a kind of case which could be made out of deep space vacuum on any player one wishes. If I had time, I'd demonstrate it on a random player, eg. named by the next poster.

while I feel the heartstrings pull of lynching snarky I am still wanting droog lynched.

Why the droog lynch?

There have been reasons posted for that.
It's not only about forgetting a Night Action.

[Aneninen]

I'll check a thing or two tomorrow, 3dice, okay?
I'm brain-dead now.

[Aneninen]

Yes aneninen, spongebob is more urgent than droog.
But also, I have super strong feeling espeonage is scum.

I've examined Esp's iso only to find... that he's doing nothing.
10 players. 5 of them are not town. You're right; I wouldn't put him amongst the four townies.
So, if needed I'd consolidate on him eagerly. (And time passes, while we're doing almost nothing.)

and this is my pagetop!
Bye for now!

Aronis you are the worst jester ever.

If he's a Jester. And that's the problem.
If he's still alive on Day3 he should be lynched.

Can anyone who's actually putting thought into this game please tell me why shos isn't scum and why I'm wrong?

Read the game.
Oh wait, you're not doing that. You just want to get rid of someone dangerous, don't you?

VOTE: shos
I'm not seeing any better options than this really. I actually agree with the points Snarky is making.

Your vote is bad and you should feel bad.

________

So, here's what I think.
Shos, Randomidget, FAQ – I'd call these town. (From the strongest to the weakest.)
Snowman, Druuge, Aronis, Espeonage. – I don't think any of these are town. (From the strongest to the weakest. Either of Snowman or Aronis can be Jester, that'swhy I'm not voting for them now.)
Assuming I'm right, the two conflicted players are 3dice and Yarrgami. At the beginning of the Day I'd have said Yarrgami's the 5th townie, however, 3dice's posts have been getting better whereas Yarrgami's posts on Day2 have seemed to be different to the ones he posted Yesterday. (I don't think they're Mafia, but some third-party could be possible.)
If there's Cult, the situation may be much worse.

[Aneninen]

Two things wrong with this
#1 I am neither scum nor jester, I am obvtown.
#2 we rlly need to policy lynch anen for more useless unreadable posts. Policy lynching has a higher than average chance of hitting scum after all.

(1) Yeah, and I'm Mystique from X-Men.
(2) It's not my problem that you didn't get the reference behind that post.
(3) Normally, it's really, really hard to find players who're more useless than me. But in this game I'm in the Top5 useful players, which tells a lot about a couple of people here. And I don't have to think a lot about the Top1 useless one.

while I feel the heartstrings pull of lynching snarky I am still wanting droog lynched.

droog is obvtown and you should be ashamed for suggesting we lynch him

Whut?

cos i want it

Awful reasoning. ^scum that needs to be policy lynched^
[/v]yarrrrgami[/v]

Aronis you are the worst jester ever.

Why does every1 confuse jester and obvtown suddenly??

That, Aronis, that!
Noone with any WinCon but getting lynched can be sooooooooooo stuffid that they don't even care about their own vote-tags getting f-cked up.

Why rando town?
He has done nothing at all other than jumping on random wagons. He has costed harder than Esp who you are reading non-town.

Good point.
I remember ruling him out as

Mafia

because of his Day1-interaction with Xk. That'swhy I put him on the town-list. But there's no proof he's not

third-party

. Also, his ISO is just as empty as Esp's. (3-dice's right too, his Day2 is definitely different to his Day1.)

[Aneninen]

How about joining those who're actally trying to do something? Or at least, trying to sort those who're producing content?
For example, what do you think of Druuge?
Why do you think Yarr are posting much less than Yesterday?
Why do you think an Esp lynch wouldn't work?
A couple of questions. As a start.

[Aneninen]

Droog is probably town or 3p. Yarr has thrown me off a bit. I wnat to look into that now that you mention it. At the time I didn't think many people were scumreading espe.

1. Care to explain?
2. Let's see, maybe they'll post more.
3. ...but there aren't too many people townreading him.

I be Low Activity due to some RL deckhand duties. Me parrot is supposed to be doing the scrawlin' for both of us.

I still be not convinced that aronis be the self-plank-walkin' type, and vague claims to the otherwise mean little to me. If Aronis were the funny type o' pirate with the bein'-eaten-by-shark fetish, he wouldn't be keeping up the "har har, I be actin' all suspicious-like and gettin' the pagetops," thing. He'd be concerned that his game be over and either be givin' up until he can self-prod at the end of the voyage or be tryin' to get back in everypirate's good graces.

As for your IRL duties. The Kagami-head's parallel activity confirms that, the Mollie-head's one does not. So, I don't know what to think.
As for Aronis, I don't think he faked f-cking up his own vote. I mean, doing such a thing would make zero sense as anything else but jester. As Shos said, we could do with a Vig shooting him. If he survives somehow, we'll lynch him Tomorrow.

I kinda wanna vote snowman now.?

Feel free to continue flip-flopping

Do you have any other scum/anti-town reads?

[Aneninen]

I just feel that droog is doing his own thing.
A lot of people have just been putting espe as scum/nullscum since I voted shos.

What makes you think that Esp is town?

I know this's getting boring from me, but

Mod

, both Esp and Druuge are in the prod zone.

As for the game, here's something interesting.
Esp hasn't done anything on MafiaScum for days, but Druuge has been active elsewhere.

[Aneninen]

you can go through my posting history and see that my overall site activity has dropped off. I am not signing up for anymore games for a while cos I need a break. I am not as plugged into this game as much as i wld like to be and I can' really explain why except that I am just tired and I haven't really found anything to sink my teeth into. a droog flip wld do wonders for me cos he is the only 1 who jumps out at me as not quite being in sync with the overall flow of the game. I am not as confident in that read as much as I wld like to be cos I have no idea what droog's towngame looks like but he is hitting all of the markers for his scumgame so far.

Which head am I talking to?
On the other hand, I must admit, this game has been a lurker's paradise Today and it's very hard to find anything useful.
I've seen Druuge's townplay before and it looks similar, but it's not the same. (It's hard to explain it.) And once again, it's not about the missing action. It's about his interpretation of that and his later posts.

I really don't like you pitting random against us when you yourself have yet to engage us in any meaningful way in this dayround. so if you have some questions, I think now wld be a fantastic time to ask them!

I actually asked three questions about three different things. You were only one of those. And I don't think I liked the answers, by the way.

it pisses me off to no end that aronis will live forever and be allowed to get away with crap play. that is the number 1 thing that has been frustrating me about mafia and it is why I need a break. cos I remember a time where he wld have been sped lynched and not allowed to get away with it.

I don't think he'll live forever. I'd be surprised if he survived until Tomorrow. Or until the beginning of Night3 tops.

I will sheep you guys, just because espe wagon isn't taking off, but espeonage tomorrow, okay Mollie?
VOTE: droog guy

Good. Unless Esp gets sorted as town somehow.

I will help you sort espy 3dice.

Good.

You wanted questions.
We have five townies and five non-townies. Whom would you put in which group?

[Aneninen]

Is that a joke? How do you not know which head your are talking to?

I had a reason for that question.

[Aneninen]

So, Yarrrrrr,
What do you think of Snarky?
Can you see anything that tells you Aronis's not Jester but he's impersonating one?
What do you think of Random? Including his answers for my questions?

[Aneninen]

what is your reason
cos the answer shld be very obvs.

This

As for your IRL duties. The Kagami-head's parallel activity confirms that, the Mollie-head's one does not. So, I don't know what to think.

Although you haven't given a direct answer I think I got it. Which matches with the thing I've just quoted here.

[Aneninen]

1. I can't really tell if he newbtelling bad town or if he is actually scum. he has pinged in a lot of places but ugh

By scum do you mean anti-town? If so, can he be Jester? Also, see my answer below!

2. if aronis was a jester I feel like he wld have been lynched by now. it isn't hard and there is actually a textbook formula that works every time.

Since I've never played in a game with Jester before, I know nothing about that "textbook formula". Can you explain it or would it help only the anti-town players?
One of my biggest problems is that we have

two

Jester candidates. It's very unlikely that both Snowman and Aronis are Jesters, so at least one of them is impersonating one. If so, there's a scum-PR which fits perfectly for that one. This may be resolved by Day3, but what if it's too late?

3. I don't feel like your questions are particularly very good nor do they seem like they are coming from a game solving place. just like your question to me about who was posting right now that you are somehow managing to tie to your original point to random.

your questions look like fillers and it looks like you are trying to look busy cos I have not seen any useful conclusions after you ask them and they have been answered. and yes I gave you a very direct response to your obtuse question/observation whatever the fuck you call it earlier so stop trying to throw shade.

it looks like you are trying to construct a narrative rather than trying to figure the game out. the problem that I am having is that I have seen you do this as both alignments.

A part of my logic is not a secret at all. There are 4 town and 5 anti-town players out there. I try to decide which one of you belongs to which category. Finding the 4 townies is just as good as finding all the anti-towns. (Normally, it wouldn't work but in this Setup it doesn't look a bad idea.)

Here's Randomidget, for example. I remember putting him on the town list but it was pointed out by FAQ (who's on my townlist) that I could be wrong. Indeed, I ruled out him as Mafia (see my earlier posts) but not as Third-party.
The goal of my questions was is to see how "involved" answers I get. His 735 was very empty and it lacked any effort of scumhunting. No reasoning about Druuge (his 740 is very little). No opinion about Esp. (his answer in the same post was actually terrible:

"A lot of people have just been putting espe as scum/nullscum since I voted shos."

– I can see no connection between those events. Also, voting for Shos is bad.) He said he'd check your posts, and that never happened.
________
Randomidget, I'm not only talking about you here, I'm also talking TO you. What can you tell me about those things above?
________

The other part behind my logic is hidden, on the other hand. I think I have a quite close guess about the PR-distribution. Also, I have a dilemma what to do next. (As for the former sentence, I think you too have a picture in your heads, and you may have realized the second sentence by now.) But, revealing these things would mean more loss than gain for the town. That may look as if I were throwing shade.
Can you follow me?

Normally he would have been lynched. There is a real possibility that such an action is anti-town though. I fear that we may be seriously lacking killing roles though and that might be an issue dealing with jesters...

Or our Killing PRs are dumbs.

With the way that snowman has been tunneling shos in an uncharacteristic manner from any play previously in this game I am beginning to suspect that he is a lyncher.

His Day1 doesn't fit that picture. But, even if I'm wrong about this, he'll never be able to get Shos lynched. So we needn't worry.

Is there any role that profits from killing the jester? Third party? Scum? Anyone? As it is like that, any L-1 vote is effectively a hammer because aronis is practically compromised.

As far as I know only the Jester him/herself.

[Aneninen]

Normally he would have been lynched. There is a real possibility that such an action is anti-town though. I fear that we may be seriously lacking killing roles though and that might be an issue dealing with jesters...

Or our Killing PRs are dumbs.

Nnnnnnnnnn actually that's not entirely true. Hint: Night1 flavour.

[Aneninen]

Mod

, it's me again, you know that annoying egg-head who keeps prodding you for prods.
Trust me I'd be soooooooo happy if I didn't have to point out that neither Esp nor Druuge had given a pile of pigeon poop to their prods.

[Aneninen]

Pffffffffffffft, sorry I haven't seen your other post on the previous page.
Well, I've never been the cleverest one on MafiaScum...

[Aneninen]

I didn't check yarr's posts because they were busy irl which explained it.
I didn't say that the shos vote and reads on espe were connected. I said that my vote on was connected to a lack of scumreads on espe beforehand.

Okay. But only for Today.

Someone please tell me why shos is town? Still waiting on that.

Read the f-cking game. Or at least, my Day2 ISO.

I really wish you guys wld let me sort espy first before you ram his lynch through, espy isn't afraid to post as scum so I dunno. I can't sort him if he is not present in the game.

I'm buying this.
I've read the other parts of your post too, but I don't think there's anything left I should answer. If I'm wrong, ask.

[Aneninen]

You just got utterly owned, anen.

Just another pearl of wisdom from me, you know.

[Aneninen]

Alright, time to read up!
What are the cases on Droog and Espionage?

What if you read the thread?
Actually it would help in another thing too. Finding scums. If you happen to be motivated in that.

I don't care weather or not he can get shos lynched - the point was I think snarky is a safe lynch should we not agree to go for someone that is more likely to be scum.

I'd say, better lynch than NoLynch. But only if we think Aronis is more likely Jester. And I'm not sold on that.

We should totally no lynch.

Your idea is bad and you should feel bad.

I be not disagreein' with making sneaky-sneak pirate walk the plank, but me parrot be telling me that he wouldn't be afraid of scrawlin' in the logs as a scurvy dog. I think his behavior was scurvy-ish prior to his hiding below deck anyway.

Let's see who's coming to his place.

It was a joke -_-

It was a scummy reaction.

Srry anen, but I wont be prodded today! (Or tomorrow)

This Setup could really do with a DayVig.

[Aneninen]

I haven't liked either of the replacements so far.
Aristo has done literally nothing yet.
Ranger's catchup is about content-looking lists without any kind of reasoning.

How many times do I have to tell you that we're not lynching Shos?!
This may be a new piece of info for the newcomers (although I don't think they've had to read a lot of this game for getting this), but it's obvious that Randomidget's heard this.

Not much to say apart from these.
Aronis, Snowman, Randomidget, Aristophanes, Ranger
These must be the anti-town players.

By the way.

Kinda getting the vibe we got two neutral benigns in the game, but will figure that out as I go.
If so, that does mean I need one more. (2 mafia+SK.)

As far as I can remember it was only me who posted there must be an SK. Either Ranger has read my posts and found that – in that case she should know how bad voting for Shos is. Or she hasn't found that post – in which case...............................

[Aneninen]

We're running out of time.
We need to lynch.
Get off that Shos-wagon.

Catching up soon. (Briefly, because I don't have a lot of time.)

[Aneninen]

She is.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ranger
Willing to return to anyone on my lynch-list, but the Aristo-wagon doesn't seem to move.

[Aneninen]

Catching-up, really quickly.

I am not liking the shos wagon, like at all.
and I am not liking snowthing's deathtunnel to the exclusion of doing anything else this game.
also I am wondering how ranger came to the conclusion that there 2 benign indies when he has only read this page or did I miss something.

Basically, these.
In addition. I know I'm not a genius but I needed quite a lot of thinking before saying there must be an SK. (Also, I used the DeathNote thing too.) She seemed to

know

a lot about the Setup instantly. How?

I'm an investigative role, and I targetted Aronis. The result suggests he might be Jester. pretty sure I've said this already.

^^
And that'swhy I auto-FoS everyone who hadn't realized that.

it *supports* him being a jester, and well, his PLAY makes him a jester.
There is no scum role that goes nowhere.
MM probably doesn't go nowhere.
same goes for arsonist.
it's either survivor or jester, and if he's a survivor, he's playing like shit, because he's really close to being killed just because, I think

I wrote a quicklist about it but later I realized that FAQ had already summarized all the possibilities better, in 860

Uh nice try. I'm the detective, and I got innocent on yarrrgami

Pigeon poop.

Ranger's catchup is about content-looking lists without any kind of reasoning.

Listing

is

content.
The lack of reasons is a deliberate choice, for multiple reasons. Among them being laziness: why do I need to give reasons when people are following my vote anyway? It's a waste of time and effort.

I don't have time to answer everything but this alone is worth a lynch.
Most people have never followed you. And you haven't even tried to back your reads up with reasons.

Well shit. 15 hours left. I won't be able to catch up by then.

I'll see you all in D3 I guess.
Sorry about the subpar replacement!

Okay, he's scum too. Partly because of reasons can't be explained here.

...Okay, so maybe that'd not be accurate. Anen is, 100%, not group scum.

So page 14 makes it obvious Aronis isn't group-scum, but he's still probably the serial killer as a result, soyeah.

3dice is scum. With shos, and having been with Xkfyu.

Just a couple of things, although I could have quoted basically anything.
Where the Sacred Dark Matter of the Star Goddess these come from?

Aronis is vig material, better that than lynching him because it would draw a random kill we don't want.

^^

[Aneninen]

Because of work and other things I have to do I can't promise other contentful posts Today, but I'm checking the game every now and then (from mobile too), so when the Deadline comes I'm willing to hammer anyone of my anti-town list. I'm posting it again:
Aronis, Aristophanes, Ranger, Snowman, Randomidget.

If there's an objection to any of those names from Yarr, Shos, FAQ or 3-dice, post them.

But the most important is: consolidate on someone!

[Aneninen]

Yeah, she is Sneaky-sneak pirate.

Objection noted.

[Aneninen]

I think Yarrr could have left alive; after all we don't know who their lynchee was.

So, 5 townies, 2 Mafia, 1 third-party. 3 lynches.
Randomidget's town, Shos's town.

Five players left. Aristophanes, Snowman, Aronis, FA_Q2, 3-Dice.

Before moving on,

Mod

if the Jester gets lynched (if we have any), will the game end or will it go on until another faction wins?

The answer, obviously, greatly affects my next move.

[Aneninen]

Mod

if the Jester gets lynched (if we have any), will the game end or will it go on until another faction wins?

Lynching a Jester doesn't end the game by itself.
It may however end the game if other conditions will be met (say, if after the next night only 1 townie and 1 mafia will remain alive).

Aronis and Snarky went nowhere on nights 1 and 2 respectively. I'm sure it's a case of jester/lyncher. This leaves us with bad chances to fight scum off.

Why not lynching both of them? The one who the Jester is actually wins, but the other one I bet is scum.

We haven't yet, but should

Then I'll start.
Town investigative.
Popcorn to you since you seem to be around.

This one is fake, I think.

Protective.
I would say snarky next, but he's already fake claimed investigative and failed, so I suppose Aronis next.

This one is real. (Although you could have said something like Protective/Killing or so, see below!)
I know you don't trust me, but answer this, please.
Did you target Shos with anything at Night1? (If so, you needn't tell the action itself. If not, answer a simple "no". Thanks.)

Lyncher on shos. Aristo next

If this were true, you'd have lost the game by now. But it isn't.

Technically there is a possibility for 2 lynchers in this setup though it is unlikely. Snarky has been all over the damn place though and nothing he says is even worth reading.

Either Snarky or Aronis is Jester and the other one is impersonating one.

And I think some of you might have guessed it. I'm Town Killing/Power. (Those sections overlap twice. Definitely not Protective. And this narrows the possibilities to few PRs.)

Popcorn FA_Q or Aronis, whoever checks in first. (Two names, because I think I know FA_Q's claim and at this point I doubt Aronis would obey the massclaim.)

________

I'd suggest these lynches in any order: Aronis, Snowman, Aristodesis.
Most probably we'll get rid of all anti-towns.

[Aneninen]

Catching up soon.
Either I'm an idiot or the game is broken and we're winning inevitably.

[Aneninen]

Just a couple of things to highlight.

Why would we do that? Lynching aronis would randomly kill a person on the wagon, and we know snarky is not scum.

Where did those assumptions come from?

Any good claiming role/results/targets now? or only after others massclaim?

It literally makes no difference.
I'm a Town Detective as well!
Droog didn't submit a target N1, I asked Nether.
N2 I targeted Random, and he (obviously) didn't go anywhere.[/quote]
I'm not buying this.

heh, I'm really out of sinc today, that made me really laugh

(Sigh.)
Don't take it as an offence, but you've been giving me hard time whole game.

Everyone

.
Have you ever been wondering why I've been hard-defending Shos for ages?

I was Roleblocked at Night1.

Shos and me were Bus-Driven at Night1, which means,

Mafia wanted to Roleblock Shos.

Since noone claimed Escort, nor

any

Night Action on Shos at Night1, this can mean one single thing.

Shos is not scum

.

Okay I know it's possible

in theory

that Mafia used a Roleblock on their own member so as to create a kind of WIFOM, but I can see no point for that. Also, how on Gods' Green Earth would have known that their Roleblock would end up somewhere else?
Even if doing so, what would have been the point? Like, Shos realizes the situation on Day2 and thinks "wow, Aneninen's hard-defending me, I'll win this game when we get to LyLo together and he's voting for the wrong person, mwhahaha, payback time"???

he claimed protective..?

so anen is the only one who claimed killing/power.

There's no need to beat around the bush.

Killing.

Either Vig or Veteran. I'm telling it so as to make it clear: I'm not Jailor so NoLynch will never help me.
For obvious reasons I'm not revealing which one. Especially because I don't have too many shots left...
(Actually I was hinting my PR throughout the whole game.)

Well obviously yeah, but if he doesn't prove he is crier, he would get turbo lynched.

Indeed.

Well if you want the honest truth, it's a lot more fun when people can guess your claim right, and I want to work on my crumbling skills.

I'm Doctor.

I know that I'm blowing my own trumpet right now but I've thought that for a while. I've simply had no motivation for talking about it.

I really have no idea how a crier can be utilized in a pro town manner in this particular setup.

That's one of the PRs in this Setup I don't understand at all. Nor its use. So I can see your point.

Mollie got killed via mod error
Hahahaha perfect

No.
As for fairplay, that helped us a lot.
Especially because I have an idea about their target. (And if I'm right, they were playing very well and it's merely a sheer coincidence that she didn't win on Day2.)

So:

randomidget and Aneninen

and shos

confirmed town

I am confirming tonight

1

town, 2 scum and one 3p out of:
Aristophanes
3dicerolling
SnarkySnowman
Aronis

FIFY. (Italic parts are made by me.)

We lynch Aronis, Snowman and Aristophanes.
If it's still not over, it must be 3dice.
I know this makes the Jester win too (and I think we have that one), but in my opinion:
Sure Town win + Jester wins > Town may lose + Jester loses

VOTE: Aronis

[Aneninen]

What did I miss?
I don't get you, Random.

[Aneninen]

This is the list of roles in the game. Bus driver can be a town Protective OR Town Power role. The power role and killing role occupies the SAME TOWN SLOT. IOW, anen is NOT confirmed town.

Indeed!
But if so, I won't move my vote. Especially because I strongly think Aronis is scum, not Jester.

[Aneninen]

And we lynch Snowman next, aren't we?

[Aneninen]

Sorry, I've had such a busy day that I'm too tired now to catch-up.
Tomorrow I'll post, okay?

[Aneninen]

I was Roleblocked at Night1.

I want to know why you waited until day 3 to share that amazing info with the rest of the class....

It was enough to hint that I know something that others don't. I wanted to give no information to the scum nor to force others to claim unnecessarily. At that point most players had told us nothing about their PRs, remember that. So I wasn't even sure whether my theory was right. (Xk wanted to Roleblock Shos but the action ended up at me because of Firebringer.) There could have been eg. a Town Escort, another Bus-Driver etc. As side-effects, there was a chance that a scum under stress would claim something silly (that I could have refuted easily). Or for me to eat a Nightkill. Alternatively, there could have been a wagon on me so that I could have been forced to claim before others (and that would have given us some info about eg. the Mafia Team).
Nevertheless, I managed to derail the Shos-wagon with little effort. Was it a bad stragety?

I am really uncomfortable with the manner in which shos and anen tried to town confirm each other and I think there is a real possibility that they are the scum team.

(1) Shos has never called me conf-town.
(2) For that team you had to assume these: Xk Roleblocked his buddy intentionally and we had been hoping that a town Bus-Driver had picked exactly Shos and me for their action.

What do you think about no lynching on the 3rd lynch rando? Obviously we would still take care of snarky.

Why?

VOTE: Snarky

And after that vote I'm definitely not a conf-town.
Really sorry for f-cking it up. Had I been here we could have had an auto-win.

Everyone who isn't myself or FA should give thoughts on who scum is, so scum can't optimise their nightkill as easily.

I assume Aronis was scum (Godfather or Framer?) and Snowman was Jester (because of his self-hammer).
If so,

Randomidget – confirmed town.
FA_Q2 – Either he confirms him Tonight or he's auto-lynch.
Shos – Unless I'm missing something about the Setup or the possible Night Actions, I can see no chance for him being scum.
3-Dice – I don't think he's scum. However, if it's not Aristo, it must be him.
Aristophanes – He must be scum. Partly because of his play, partly because of Druuge's one. His claim means nothing. Claiming a duplicate PR is WIFOM at best.

[Aneninen]

Wait, there may be a pretty good chance, if...

Mod!

Erm, let's imagine the following.
Here's a fictional SORM situation:

CaptainPicard (4) LYNCH – Triss Merigold, Sgt. Pepper, Clotilde, CaptainPicard

Later that Day:

Clotilde (4) LYNCH – Hypercube, Triss Merigold, Mmrnmhrm, FN2187

CaptainPicard flips Jester.

Will the Random Death (at Night) take place between
{Triss Merigold, Sgt. Pepper, Clotilde, CaptainPicard}
OR
{Triss Merigold, Sgt. Pepper}
?

[Aneninen]

Thanks, Nether!
The game has been broken then!

I'm from mobile and off to work, but I'll explain it as I get home.

[Aneninen]

How has it been broken? Random death will happen if snarky is scum between his wagoners...regardless of alignment...so..?

Sorry, you were right, not working. Still, I'm gonna explain it in my next post so that someone may improve it.

Yes he did say you were confirmed based on the claims. It was a mistake or a ploy - those are the only 2 options. Considering that I agreed at first I can see how a mistake is possible.

That question was cleared before. I mean, it's possible that Firebringer drew the Bus-Driver from the Power section.

Not really. Snarky self voting changes nothing and you voting in his place also would change nothing. I find this comment interesting because a town member would be more than happy to be off this wagon. If you are correct that snarky is the jester (and it looks that way) you being off the wagon increases our chance of hitting scum with the random kill to 2/3rds instead of 1/2 and that is a massive help.

Not in this situation.
A

confirmed

town would have been happy if they had been away.
And actually it's even worse.
I HAD BEEN THERE INSTEAD OF SHOS WE COULD HAVE BROKEN THIS F-CKING GAME!
1. We lynch someone out of 3-dice, Aristo, Anen.
2. One of the remaining two players die at Night (regardless of the Nightkill).
3. We lynch the one who's still alive.
QED.

In my next post I explain my idea even if it's bad in that form.

[Aneninen]

Do you think Xk Roleblocked his buddy intentionally and we exploited the situation that Firebringer actually Bus-drove... two scums?
Even so, for this we should assume that either Aronis or Snowman was town.

For the others. Can you see my point?

It's quite peculiar now, because I've just calculated something. Even if I don't have a breaking strategy, the winning chance is about 91.67% if we lynch Aristo Today and 94.44 if we lynch me. (Assuming neither Aronis nor Snowman flips town and only one of them flips Mafia.)

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.
I haven't read the recent posts thoroughly. But if our conf-section says Nolynch okay for me.
Do I have to answer anything before movingon? If so I'll do so tomorrow okay?

[Aneninen]

Nothing has been asked, nothing left to say.
We can move on.

VOTE: No Lynch

[Aneninen]

I'm Veteran.
But what's the use?
I'm auto-lynch. All remaining Mafia-PRs turn into Mafioso when they're the only one alive.
So, technically, I'm the only possible scum.
But I'm not.
And I don't know what went wrong.
Apart from these. I should have been on the Snowman-wagon. Instead of Shos. And we could have auto-won. Then, as I posted, we should have lynched me Yesterday. Still, it could have been an almost sure win.

I wouldn't believe this pigeon poop either. I suppose. Don't really care.
At least I feel like working on E.B.O.N.Y. Which is nice.

[Aneninen]

I have no idea what to do, nor case against Shos.

[Aneninen]

Incoming AtE.

I can see no point wasting our time.
For me, it's clear that we've f-cked it up somewhere and we've ignored a possibility. But I simply can't find it. The scum (Shos, probably) is unwilling to find it. And the other two townies know very well that I'd post the same pigeon poop if I were scum. Actually from their point of view, it's MUCH more likely that I'm simply lying than we messed up our speculation somewhere, somehow.

So, I have nothing to say.

[Aneninen]

Does it matter?
I used it at Night1 (Roleblocked) and Night2. I saw no use doing so at Night3. I thought the remaining scum would never target me and I didn't want to Nightkill anyone who investigates me.
By the way... I'm wondering what we would do now if Aristo hadn't forgotten to investigate me.

[Aneninen]

Actually not:

Night actions resolution order

• Jailor/Kidnapper detains target
• Night discussion (Mafia chat, Mason chat, Cultist chat, and Jailor chat)
• Bulletproof vests are used
• Target switches and role-blockers
  
  
  Priority order is Witches, Bus Drivers, then role-blockers (Escort or Consort).
• Framer frames someone, Arsonist douses/undouses, and other miscellaneous role actions happen.
• Killing roles and suicides act simultaneously.
  
  
  Jailor, Vigilante, Mafioso and Godfather, Serial Killer, Arsonist, Mass Murderer, Jester, Disguiser, and leavers in that order (being killed in a previous event does not matter, however), Bodyguard, Bus Driver, and Witch indirect kills/suicides happen throughout in the applicable areas.
• Janitor cleans a target
• Investigative roles detect (Sheriff, Investigator, Consigliere)
• Mason Leader recruits someone to become a Mason
• The Cult recruits someone to be a Cultist

[Aneninen]

Everything has been against us whole game.
There has been literally no other possibility for scum Today.

And still I haven't been insta-lynched, there

have been

a

real

discussion!

[Aneninen]

It is ^_^
Good Game anyway.

[Aneninen]

Thanks everyone and thanks for modding!

I have no objections against revealing the scum PT.

We had an endgame with a really good atmosphere.

More thoughts later.