Chaos Diplomacy FINISHED! Who were the survivors?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Hey. Look at that. The style of my flag sort of matches my avatars scheme. It was almost as if this was planned. (It wasn't)

I'm feening for a Mediterranean alliance

You and me both.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I am open to a Risorgimento, but my priority is the Mediterranean countries.

Turkish countries as well as spain or Portugal are countries that would be fitting additions, I think.

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Ha Greece wants an alliance with the turks.

But yea, anyone who borders the med is welcome.

So what you're saying is that the MedAgree (Mediterranean Agreement Between Peoples, also called MABP) is open to anyone by the Med? Agree?


Sorry that wasn't funny. I tried to figure out a way to make a pun with pedigree but that didn't work either. I'll see myself out.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Croissants and baguettes for anyone who helps Paris!

Pardon moi, proffeseur, mais est-ce je peux aller aux toillettes?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Mediterranean Agreement Between Peoples

current members:

1. Extrapolated Eagle (Greece)
2. Animorpherv (Spain)
3. Zulfy (Naples)
4. ActionDan (Rome)
5. Aronis (Tunis)

pls join

So I think we have enough members now to figure out what being in this alliance actually means.

My proposition is this: Suggest a rule the members of the group should follow, and then the group votes for/against it.

Example:

I propose all members of the group must come to the defense of any member that gets attacked.
VOTE: yes

I'm going to call this prop1 because I've got more for ya.

So here's
VOTE: Yes prop1

Prop1: in favor: 2
Against: 0

I also think once a majority is reached all members should move forward with that proposition regardless of their opinion. We can call this prop2
VOTE: Yes prop2

Prop2: in favor: 1
Against: 0

The other proposition is that the alliance stays open to any Mediterranean countries until the end of this phase and at the end of this phase we close it with the only way in being through invitation or request, both having to be agreed upon by a majority beforehand
We can call this prop3
VOTE: Yes prop3

Prop3: in favor: 1
Against: 0

Majority is 3 right now

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Yesss

Come be part of the MedAgree!

VOTE: maybe prop4

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I believe this agreement should stay between the Med countries because then it becomes difficult to implement everyone working together if someone gets attacked.

I'm cool with that. I'd say start another prop but this is pretty much already covered.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'd really like Constantinople to come be a part of this. C'mon, Turkey, represent!

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Question: Once a proposition is passed, do the numbers move up or do we just keep going?

I think we do it like this:

Mediterranean Agreement Between Peoples

As agreed upon by it's members,

All members of the agreement shall come to the aid of any fellow people group in time of need, as agreed upon in proposition 1.

Spoiler:

I propose all members of the group must come to the defense of any member that gets attacked.

Rome votes Yes
YES - Naples/Greece/Marseilles/Rome
NO -
Standing - Passed

Any nation or people group adjacent to the Mediterranean Ocean have an open invitation to join the Mediterranean Agreement On Peoples until the end of the first phase of this first year, and in all subsequent years the agreement is open to those who request one or are offered one and only upon a majority vote, as agreed upon in Proposition 3.

Spoiler:

The other proposition is that the alliance stays open to any Mediterranean countries until the end of this phase and at the end of this phase we close it with the only way in being through invitation or request, both having to be agreed upon by a majority beforehand

Rome votes Yes
YES - Greece/Marseilles/Naples/Rome
NO -
Standing - Passed

Signed:

1. Extrapolated Eagle (Greece)
2. Animorpherv (Spain)
3. Zulfy (Naples)
4. ActionDan (Rome)
5. Aronis (Tunis)
6. Mist7676 (Marseilles)

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Open Propositions

Proposition 2

I also think once a majority is reached all members should move forward with that proposition regardless of their opinion.

Rome votes Yes
YES - Greece/Marseilles/Rome
NO - Naples
Standing - 3/6 4 to pass

Proposition 4

A proposition needs a unanimous yes-vote to pass

Rome votes No
YES - Naples
NO - Marseilles/Rome
UNDECIDED - Greece
Standing - 1/6 4 to pass

Proposition 5

We collectively lament Naples not building a fleet T_T

YES - Greece
NO -
Standing - 1/6 4 to pass

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Oops, I somehow stumbled into the Nomic game thread.

What's that? O.o

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Nvm I googled it

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm sure my move will SHOCK and AMAZE. I have sooo many options here.

You going to join the MedAgree?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Also, Flumi, if you can put the original map with all the names on it somewhere, like the second post? So it's less confusing to find people.

It's already on there in multiple places, the easiest one is under the prominent hidden under a spoiler

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm thinking we need an executive power, to coordinate all our troop movements and maybe even our builds, I'm wondering if it should be just one of us, to be elected every year, or a committee of sorts, what do you all think?

I'm ok with this. I thinkwe should wait until the next phase to make a decision, however, as I'm rather focused on making sure I and our allies survive the first phase.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I am willing to support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria and I am kind of hoping for Serbian assistance in the matter as well.

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Greece, do you really want to work against you rimmediate neighbors? Does that not strike you as an absolutely awful idea?

I think we should be working with Italy as well and they with us and that the Mediterranean alliance is really just a silly idea. It's so hard to play as any of the central powers, we all need each other

No I plan on working with Serbia and anyone else who is willing at the moment. If you would like to assist the destruction of Bulgaria that would be beautiful as well. However Bulgaria has been largely absent from the game so working with them is rather hard and due to this fact leaving them alive is a danger to all adjacent countries as they are unpredictable.

I am willing to support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria and I am kind of hoping for Serbian assistance in the matter as well.

sure! okay!!

Excellent I am even ok with giving you the supply center if you would prefer that, I simply need to make sure I've got breathing room in this corner

can someone please tell me what i should do

Attack or support the attack on Bulgaria and let me know which you choose to do.

It certainly hadn't escaped my notice, no. I admit making a house in Sev sounds tempting, but where would that leave you to go?
We don't have anything formal with Russia but I'm fairly sure they don't want to fight us right now.
Positionally, Bulgaria is very inconvenient for me, you understand. I can't just go through Con like a normal Turk.

Understood. Can your fleets carry the armies of other nations?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Where are our people?

Hi.

So btw Med alliance, we're doing the plan

F Tun - Ion
and F Tun C A Nap - Albania right? Seems like the only way to make progress

Great. We could enlist Greece. How about it Eagle?

What do you want from me? I'm rather isolated. I'm trying to make friends with Serbia right now

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'll not annihilate Bulgaria. I'm ok with sitting right.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

@jdga you weren't here and you took no stances so I took one for you.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Listen. Serbia. Constantinople. I hate to be this guy but if we sit here and hold our own little areas of land Russia will come down from the north and we won't be able to do anything about it. We need to grow larger and people who aren't working with the group aren't going to help fight off threats. We need to get rid of Bulgaria because we need to be unified. If you respond to this I will support your attacks and you can have the supply center if you want even. If you don't I will just attack them myself and hope someone supports me.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm willing to work with anyone who will work with me. Bulgaria has not been present/helpful and thus must be eliminated.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm willing to work with anyone who will work with me. Bulgaria has not been present/helpful and thus must be eliminated.

This is at ceph and other hot singles in my area as well. I'll work with you if you want. I just think we need to be strong to fight off other invaders

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm happy to work with CC and Russia

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Alright ceph. I'll work with you. I just need to be on the same page as the people in the same area as me. We have to work together

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Tunisian fleet should make it's way the direction of other players so it can have an impact on the game. Preferably towards Greece.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

That went... Ok. I'm questioning the actions of the Tunisian fleet, and there seems to be some uncertainty as far as medagree actions are concerned, which makes me think it is possibly better to have a singular leader giving orders or at least someone making grand suggestions to be shot down.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Greece will support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria this phase unless someone has a better proposal for me.

@cephrir we are willing to work with rumania and our those who make an effort to work with us. We would enjoy your support in this

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Greece will support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria this phase unless someone has a better proposal for me.

@cephrir we are willing to work with rumania and our those who make an effort to work with us. We would enjoy your support in this

are you actively trying to commit suicide or do you just hate me so much you haven't noticed?

This isn't personal.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

@anyone in my alliance: is there anything specific I should do this round?

Moving somewhere where you can be relevant. Unless you plan on making allies in northern Europe who are planning on graciously giving you a foothold there I have absolutely no idea what you are doing.

Greece will support Turkish invasion of Bulgaria this phase unless someone has a better proposal for me.

@cephrir we are willing to work with rumania and our those who make an effort to work with us. We would enjoy your support in this

are you actively trying to commit suicide or do you just hate me so much you haven't noticed?

Let's put it another way, give me a better proposal for my nation that helps me out in the long run.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Budapest, Serbia, Bulgaria: Can you support me to free up Vienna to take Warsaw?
Greece: can you hold your horses for one turn?

Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.

*more

And yes, if you can guarantee me your support in taking Bulgaria afterwards.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Bulgaria has about as much of an option as a man sitting on an electric chair

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Actually Tunis, with north africa under your control you can make another fleet and patrol the mediterranean sea. I can see marseilles or venice or the turks needing Support at some point. You are in a good position to have all of that on lockdown

Well craps. I misunderstood the game and thought I had to have a country with a. supply center to build more units. I'm an idiot. Good game all, I planned everything completely wrong

Greece I need to know your plans

Just a second I need to remap everything all over again

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Drench, do you have a reason we shouldn't slingshot you forward?

Also if you want Drench in Bulgaria, couldn't you just... have him move to Bulgaria?

No because that would screw up the plans to take Bulgaria

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I am confused about these plans.

Why? It's pretty simple, I think.

@Turkey since you seem hesitant to take Bulgaria for yourself, will you support my invasion of such?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I am confused about these plans.

Why? It's pretty simple, I think.

@Turkey since you seem hesitant to take Bulgaria for yourself, will you support my invasion of such?

Is something wrong with either you or Con supporting the other there?

but we will bounce, won't we? If he also goes in?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

OKAY TURKEY GAMEPLAN
SUPPORT ME INTO BUL
SMY GET INTO THE OCEAN
SPRING 02 WE DO MORE

GOBBLE GOBBLE ON THREE

I like the way you think. I'll support you into the bulge.

Not like I've been saying this for days or anything.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Drixx support Drench into the bulge?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Hold up. I forgot. Do I want to save Romania or destroy it?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Alright I've been trying to be subtle about this and it's not working so I'm going to say it loud and clear. Who's working with me? I'm not sure. If you're working with me I'll work with you. I obviously can't work with anyone working directly against the medagree atm, but since the decision making as far as our leader is concerned seems to be floundering, I'm willing to work with people who disagree with MedAgree leadership.

So, tl;dr: if you are working with me, regardless of whether or not your name is on the medagree list or not (because there seem to be people on the list not making an effort to work with me) quote this post with your country name and tell me what you're trying to do and I'll do my best to help you achieve it under the belief that you will help me achieve my goals as long as you consider them reasonable.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

NVM Monty ignore that lol

Ate you working with me?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

1.) Moscow - Encouraging Greece/Turkey unity. What do I gain? Helping you guys take out what Moscow views as hostile forces within you area. Aka supply units in exchange for reducing our enemy list.

Are you saying you don't want romania for yourself?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

it really isn't, because i suck at persuasive speaking like no other, so this was always going to end badly for me

It's not persuasion, breeze is offering me something. You have yet to offer me anything.

I've said it elsewhere, but if I'd known this was going to be mafia I never would have joined.

In what way is this anything like mafia?

I don't think you're bad at persuading. It's a different kind of persuasion you're good at, you feel me?

You're way more social game oriented, but I think by playing this game you can only improve in other areas. I'm here to trying to get better strategically as well. This is some good training grounds too because it's a hella confusing concept

Perhaps. This game is very little social skills, and a whole lot of strategy.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Greece considers herself a part of the Russia/Turkey super power and believes based on responses that the feeling is mutual. Thus it shall continue to act towards the benefits of these powers until/unless they disown her.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Greece considers Serbia a friend.

MedAgree should move towards Greece's location.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I don't enjoy declaring war in the first phase. It's not a good economic decision.

Actually...

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I don't enjoy declaring war in the first phase. It's not a good economic decision.

Actually...

It is if you win, but it's a gamble.

Of course, this could all be a ploy to put you off your guard. YOU NEVER KNOW

I was talking more in terms of irl, but that works too.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Proposition 8

Even though Portugal does not border a Mediterranean tile, they will be invited into the MedAgree.

Yes: Naples, Spain
No:
Not voting: Greece, Tunis, Marseilles, Smyrna, Ankara, Venice, Rome
5 to pass or fail.

VOTE: Yes

If Bulgaria is still going to be left standing here, taking out Rumania should be a #1 priority for not just Radja and I. Shadoweh/Radja/Myself can accomplish this and there is no reason not to.

Also anyone who attacks Greece will have declared war on all members of the med.

Greece declared war on Bulgaria without consulting his alliance. He's reneged on your deal and shouldn't be considered part of it.

Since when do you get a say?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Does Greece have hope if it is supported in an attack against Bulgaria instead of vise versa?

This is why I thought the Tunisian fleet should have moved the other direction, BTW.

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Serbia they may not be able to help you but I certainly can and have been offering some the game started to help you and support you. Please don't turn on me just because someone makes you a desperate last minute offer

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The good side of this is that ceph seals his fate if jdga and drixx attack me and this simply leads to the destruction of the latter two in the very short term.

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My fate's been sealed for ages and there's nothing I could do about it. Go away.

I offered to help a while ago but I was responded to with aggression

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Wow, that only worked because Rumania tried to move. I did not think that would work!
I'm sorry Eagle, I was hoping Serbia would see in time and change his orders.

Heh. Happens. I was kind of counting on Serbia supporting Romania and then they replaced out and I got screwed.