Mini 1774: Formation of America's Mafiascum - Perfect Town W

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Dierfire
Fire is red. Redcoat confirmed.

[SirCakez]

Did you just skip reading the first two pages Persivul?

[SirCakez]

Looking at the protests, it looks like the "For The" protests assist us while the "Against The" hurt scum. I like Persivul's idea, that one sounds the most likely to fix the Hated Townie.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: persivul
If it was a random vote why say "just tradition" while voting??

Oh yeah wgeurts is right, this is a terrible reason for a vote.
VOTE: Nosferatu

[SirCakez]

*insert OMGUS of Firebringer here*

Anyway, SirCake rushing to aid me so quickly is noted as a later possible associative. Also Alchemist, forget the sugar; milk or no?

[SirCakez]

More Nos votes pls
Not many strong reads yet, there's a lot of joking around and roleplaying. I think Window Attack and Suzune are p townie though.

[SirCakez]

Persivul has hardly done much to deserve a townreading yet imo.

[SirCakez]

@Learned Hand - V/LA until March 16

[SirCakez]

Not really liking Fire or Kill now. Fire's tunnel is bad and Kill is just not doing anything.

[SirCakez]

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

[SirCakez]

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

That's not a fair charge. If he continues to do nothing, you continue to suspect him for that. If he does something, you say it's suspicious that he did something in response to being called out. It's like asking someone if they've stopped kicking puppies yet.

Fair enough. The way he popped in and started posting so quickly post-accusation just felt off to me.
Dierfire has done fuck all in game, not really much to read there.
Kill is starting to look like a good vote also.

[SirCakez]

You're getting ridiculously over defensive.

[SirCakez]

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

[SirCakez]

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Nos which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

Fixed, just noticed the typo.

[SirCakez]

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

[SirCakez]

I'm null scumreading it for lack of content. Thought it was pretty clear but apparently not.

[SirCakez]

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

I'm looking, and I don't see the term "scum" anywhere. Now it looks like you're backtracking.

VOTE: SirCakez

Yes I didn't explicitly say I was null scumreading him but it was heavily implied. I'm not going to say "I'm scumreading this person!" every time I vote someone, that's just common sense.

[SirCakez]

Persivul if you didn't like Fire's response so much why vote a lurker instead?

[SirCakez]

Just because I didn't say "I'm scumreading him" doesnt mean I wasn't scumreading him.

[SirCakez]

Just unoriginal and opportunistic. Just jumps on wagons like a settler.

I've only made two non-RVS votes and only one on a wagon (the Persivul vote). This is max misrep.

[SirCakez]

Yeah I wanted to join a wagon I agreed with. Wagoning isn't opportunism. And I still possess that scumread on you, Persivul has improved to null since he's started to actually do stuff.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Beeboy
Was looking at ISOs and Beeboy's is terrible. Lots of fluff, so little scumhunting.

[SirCakez]

I've only wagoned to sort someone once?
And it worked since Persivul started doing things under pressure.

[SirCakez]

Looking at my wagon:

Kill appears to be unfamiliar with me, and then unvoted - town points
Cakez to my knowledge doesn't know me, and could just be voting for D1 pressure - null

Shiro and FB have some knowledge of me and should know better, particularly FB.

Yes, this definitely came from the passage of time /s

[SirCakez]

It helped, yeah.

[SirCakez]

[SirCakez]

Like thats ridiculous. Of course me joining the wagon helped push him to make that post. Without a wagon that post wouldn't have existed.

[SirCakez]

Ok Nos is still scum.
What else is new?

[SirCakez]

I've been scumreading Nos for a long time. I didn't just develop that scumread from his vote.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Beeboy
Was looking at ISOs and Beeboy's is terrible. Lots of fluff, so little scumhunting.

Says mr 20 posts.

I didn't accuse your post quantity, I accused your post quality. Get it right.

If anything Nos is OMGUSing me since I've had a scumread on him for much longer then he's started pushing me. And he's using misrep and bs reasons to try to push me so it's pretty obvious.

[SirCakez]

Yes voting someone and not saying they are scumreading the person they vote is a great reason to scumread someone /s
Ugh if you want a Nos case you can get one.

[SirCakez]

That post meant I was putting it together.

[SirCakez]

59 is an awful reason to vote someone. This is where my initial scumread developed from. Wgeurts initially caught it and I agreed with it. Then in 102 he argues for the vote only to unvote three posts later 105. No conviction there at all.
Then there's a big stretch of one liners from 119 to 211 that contribute nothing and are fluff/coasting.
366 begins his long, terrible push on me, using awful reasoning to scumread like "Just jumps on wagons like a settler." (this is terrible, I only joined one wagon and that was intentional) and then his big "your Persivul vote was pointless" which I've already refuted because Persivul made posts responding directly to his wagon. And then when this is pointed out he made a pointless post handwaving it in 395.

That's why I'm scumreading Nos.

[SirCakez]

Ya you're probably his scum buddy from how you came in and started defending him and attacking me immediately

[SirCakez]

That case is loaded with misrep, ugh now I have to take the time to go through it and shoot it all down.

[SirCakez]

Responses in blue

wow, such case. Let me make a "case" on cake.

More Nos votes pls
Not many strong reads yet, there's a lot of joking around and roleplaying. I think Window Attack and Suzune are p townie though.

asking for votes and basic observations. Random "reads" really just assessing serious post number

Ok, this isn't scummy.

Persivul has hardly done much to deserve a townreading yet imo.

simple "x hasn't done much" that puts persivul in a position to be voted in the future

This isn't scummy either. I did end up voting him in the future, since he continued to not do anything until he got wagoned.

Not really liking Fire or Kill now. Fire's tunnel is bad and Kill is just not doing anything.

more basic observation

This isn't scummy either? Observation and analysis is fine.

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

observation that is true if made on any person ever.

Not really, no.

I find it interesting how Kill made two bigger posts directly after I called him out for not doing anything.

That's not a fair charge. If he continues to do nothing, you continue to suspect him for that. If he does something, you say it's suspicious that he did something in response to being called out. It's like asking someone if they've stopped kicking puppies yet.

Fair enough. The way he popped in and started posting so quickly post-accusation just felt off to me.
Dierfire has done fuck all in game, not really much to read there.
Kill is starting to look like a good vote also.

more observations with no commital.

^ see above

You're getting ridiculously over defensive.

presenting someone responding to other posts as over defensive when the only posts that can be made will be defensive in nature

Not to the level of defensive where he was literally screaming and swearing everywhere.

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

changing votes because kill wagon is dissolving

Yeah because his response was town.

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

"what's wrong with voting under the pretext of sorting?"

??

I'm null scumreading it for lack of content. Thought it was pretty clear but apparently not.

"I'm obviously scumreading it despite presenting any reasons besides a basic observation of their post count guiz"

Already talked about this

Urgh Kill might just be really bad town. His reaction to the fake dayvig was pretty town. I can't get any traction on Now which is annoying as hell so I'll gogo Persivul wagon since I want to sort him and he's not doing anything.
VOTE: Persivul

Alch why do you hate my Persivul vote? What's wrong with adding pressure to a slot doing nothing?

I'm looking, and I don't see the term "scum" anywhere. Now it looks like you're backtracking.

VOTE: SirCakez

Yes I didn't explicitly say I was null scumreading him but it was heavily implied. I'm not going to say "I'm scumreading this person!" every time I vote someone, that's just common sense.

saying his nullscum read on persivul was heavily implied despite there being no such insinuation in the post.

Also already talked about this zzzz

Persivul if you didn't like Fire's response so much why vote a lurker instead?

question with no followup that really didn't need to be asked

Yeah I didn't follow up, his answer made sense kek

Just because I didn't say "I'm scumreading him" doesnt mean I wasn't scumreading him.

kek

Just unoriginal and opportunistic. Just jumps on wagons like a settler.

I've only made two non-RVS votes and only one on a wagon (the Persivul vote). This is max misrep.

relying on technicality to just slap MISREP on future posts

it is misrep though

Yeah I wanted to join a wagon I agreed with. Wagoning isn't opportunism. And I still possess that scumread on you, Persivul has improved to null since he's started to actually do stuff.

>wagoning isn't opportunism
well no it isn't but jumping on wagons as soon as they seem to be forming is.

How do wagons form if people don't join them when they start forming???

>persivul is null because he started to do stuff
as the game progresses everyone will post more so really that's just a pointless statement

This is terrible considering some of the players in this game still have yet to do much of anything.

don't think I need to pick through earlier posts.

pedit: ye no

[SirCakez]

you haven't even given a reason on why my first vote was a bad one fam

It's really obvious why it was bad. Persivul never said his vote was random and you assumed it was.
P-Edit: Yessssss I knew it
P-P-Edit: ew

[SirCakez]

you haven't even given a reason on why my first vote was a bad one fam

It's really obvious why it was bad. Persivul never said his vote was random and you assumed it was.
P-Edit: Yessssss I knew it
P-P-Edit: ew

thank you, honestly. I SAID IT WASN'T RANDOM. I said it wasn't random and he intentionally voted firebringer. I thought that the "just tradition" was either a. his tradition of voting FB in RVS that I didn't know of or b. a tradition of putting people to L-1

good fucking job confirming you didn't have an original opinion.

VOTE: persivul
If it was a random vote why say "just tradition" while voting??

what

[SirCakez]

are you serious
You voted him, saying "if it was a random vote, why say just tradition?" That's saying you assumed it was a random vote.

[SirCakez]

no. it's saying I assumed it WASN'T A RANDOM VOTE.

it's why there a big fat fucking IF at the beginning of the post.

IF it was a random vote WHY do this

it's OBVIOUSLY saying I thought it wasn't a random vote. Otherwise how would ANY POST GOING FORWARD MAKE SENSE.

If you didn't think it was random then why did you drop the vote
like this is baffling me
Thank you for your contribution Alchemist /s

[SirCakez]

i can't even

[SirCakez]

@Beeboy, I don't trust you at all. Shiro can accept you with open arms but I consider you in my top 3 scum right now.

I can vote Cakes without it being a scum claim.

VOTE: Sircakes

He is trying to scum paint rather than scum hunt.

And you are just sheeping wagons.
How are you scum hunting?

I have been pressuring Cakes scum for awhile. I tried to pressure Kill earlier before anyone else did so it couldn't have been a sheep.
I know this isn't my top town game but I wouldn't say I am blindly sheeping.

I am also not pulling bs arguments to justify my reads.

Lol this is bull. You didn't even mention a scumread in me until I voted you. This is definitely scum.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Nosferatu
I think I was still voting Persivul.

[SirCakez]

He really hasn't done much, but he keeps acting like he has

???
Are you scum Alch?

[SirCakez]

Lol this is bull. You didn't even mention a scumread in me until I voted you. This is definitely scum.

My bad I though you where scum from 101 though.

And then you sheeped me in 149
That doesn't add up at all.

[SirCakez]

VT
Interesting that Persivul of all people is giving intent, don't recall you ever having a scumread on me. BB's jump on me was also pretty awful.

[SirCakez]

VT

Interesting that Persivul of all people is giving intent, don't recall you ever having a scumread on me. BB's jump on me was also pretty awful.

Kill is understandable but why townread the other three?

[SirCakez]

Vote Nos.

[SirCakez]

Kill what

[SirCakez]

GG I was scum.
This was not a good game for me <.<

[SirCakez]

:p
Do Against Unreasonable Searches and Seizures. I want to see what that does, heh.

[SirCakez]

They're all pro-town p sure.