Individual-1 (Donald Trump)

This forum is for discussion about anything else.
Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #7  (isolation #0)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:21 am

rimshot

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #122  (isolation #1)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:13 pm

lol.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #143  (isolation #2)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:12 pm

It shows.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1160  (isolation #3)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:26 am

Fashionism?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1161  (isolation #4)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:27 am

In post 1149, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Believe it or not but God gave us free will
Why give us the option if you're just going to take it away a moment later? :(

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1165  (isolation #5)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:43 am

I think the point is that linearly comparing political viewpoints is ineffective.
Where comparing wages linearly isn't.
Last edited by Cheetory6 on Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:44 am, edited 1 time in total.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1170  (isolation #6)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:48 am

So because you agree with things that Hitler said.
That makes him leftleaning and thereby fascism also leftleaning?
I don't get it.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1188  (isolation #7)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:11 pm

Everything is an opinion.
I am an opinion.
You're an opinion.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1949  (isolation #8)  » Wed May 11, 2016 7:01 pm

In post 1947, KuroiXHF wrote:But there are a lot of boycotts out there and they work. Our neighborhood grocery store, Market Basket, had a boycott a year ago and it nearly went out of business until they listened to their customers.
In that case how do you know what companies to boycott if it isn't publi-..

Kuroi wrote:That's not true. There's no need for companies to be forced to release anything. press-release issues inevitably make their way to the public. Poor ethics always make their way to the public.
Ah.
Yes.
Of course.
:/

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #1950  (isolation #9)  » Wed May 11, 2016 7:02 pm

Like, I just feel like you're acting like problems should be solved in ways that are never going to actually do anything while also hand-waving ideas for fixing them without really digesting what they actually are trying to say.
If you really think boycotts are the way to go, I feel like you're severely underthinking how to approach this problem.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #4408  (isolation #10)  » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:05 am

In post 4392, karnos wrote:BTW, ignoring the human side, how do you think Hillary ability to enact policy is affected by her alcoholism? Even ignoring her obviously broken sense of morals, there is huge potential for terrible missteps to occur when an inebriated Hillary is forced to make important decisions.
Lol.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #12902  (isolation #11)  » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:44 pm

Oh god it's 2016.
Is it actually a real person :(

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #12908  (isolation #12)  » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:54 pm

In post 12905, James3 wrote:A leftist is someone who will insist that he simply stands for basic decency and simultaneously question whether those who disagree with him are human beings.
I mean, implying that I was saying that you're subhuman, where really I'm just kind of surprised that someone posting like this is potentially not just trying to stir the pot for shits and giggles.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20662  (isolation #13)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:25 am

I don't really understand why some people think that working hard is the only thing worth considering in terms of someone's success
when some of the biggest factors in how likely people are to succeed are just the circumstances that they're given

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20669  (isolation #14)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:38 am

I think it trivializes a lot of things people deal with to boil it down to people being lazy or not lazy.
There are successful lazy people.

There are a lot of people who work really hard their whole life and barely manage to get by.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20672  (isolation #15)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:43 am

If you're born without education, a support network, in a place with less opportunity, without money
then yeah you can work hard
but statistically speaking you're probably not going to be a success story?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20678  (isolation #16)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:54 am

Maybe a better conversation is that if you have to pay for meds, support an elderly family member, or kids, or have physical/mental health issues or have faced some kind of natural disaster
and the best you can find in terms of work is part-time min wage work and you're forced to juggle multiple
and you're still barely/not getting by/not getting a living wage?

Maybe this isn't working? And it's getting worse rather than getting better? And is going to get even worse when we stop being in relatively stable times?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20682  (isolation #17)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:03 am

I don't really know if we're concerned about the same thing tbh.
I don't really think that people should aspire to be ridiculously successful to the point of excess.
Obviously you should be able to enjoy your life to some extent, but the issue for me is moreso the people who can't get by and a large factor of why they can't get by has nothing to do with how hard they're willing to work.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20684  (isolation #18)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:05 am

Where are you drawing a distinction of "we should stop intervening at _________"?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #20690  (isolation #19)  » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:38 am

There's definitely room for criticism of people advocating for stuff like that while being relatively comfortable.
But there's also an absurdity to the excess of the ultra-rich that makes the direct comparison between the two of them a little bit unreasonable?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #21499  (isolation #20)  » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:36 pm

In post 21498, Fluminator wrote:since there are cool weebs out there
thanks flum I aprpeciate it

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22028  (isolation #21)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:46 am

I personally think Jeff Bezos is a paragon of virtue and anyone who calls him awful is ignoring the vast amount of wealth that he's accumulated.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22041  (isolation #22)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:06 am

Persivul wrote:So, you're saying that Turkey is better than the US. Checking the immigration list, Turkey is ranked higher than the US. So...why do you say that my methodology is "fucking ass"?
Do you understand the concept of being morally awful?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22048  (isolation #23)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:23 am

In post 22045, Persivul wrote:Yes. Rather, I have a concept of it. It may differ from others'. For instance, some here seem to look at the bad and call the US awful. But to me, you should look at the good as well.
Do you think that it's possible that people do acknowledge that there are benefits to living in America while still believing that the things that America does are awful? And that potentially a lot of those benefits to living in America are driven by those awful things that America does, which would then taint the good aspects to America to some degree?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22052  (isolation #24)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:31 am

I feel like to say "America isn't thaaaaaaattttt bad. look at _______" is a failure of imagination and reinforces some pretty complacent and cynical attitudes.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22055  (isolation #25)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:39 am

In post 22054, Flubbernugget wrote:It's valid to express gratitude. I have food in my fridge every day and many people can't say that.
I feel like giving credit to the state for that is eh though?

If you want to be grateful to people who have supported you or maybe even like a specific service the government offers, then sure.
But I feel like national pride has primarily reinforced people believing a bloated fiction of what their country actually is and has been historically.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22057  (isolation #26)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:46 am

I mean, the question is of how the state makes that economy become prosperous.

Gratefulness kind of implies that you are indebted for the things you have received. I would rather that gratefulness be passed forward in general rather than be attributed to your country in the abstract.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22060  (isolation #27)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:50 am

wow ty canada ty for not shooting me i am so grateful to you.
(;

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22062  (isolation #28)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:52 am

okay it is time for me to take my leave while I am not in a bad mood from posting in this thread.

cya again in a month or two.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22064  (isolation #29)  » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:04 am

Image

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22202  (isolation #30)  » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:14 pm

I also cant be patriotic of the US so my criticisms come from a place of hating freedom.
But also fuck Canada pride while we're at it.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22215  (isolation #31)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:04 am

You'd think researchers would have the best information on the subject.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22217  (isolation #32)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:11 am

You know you could link where you get things like that from.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22218  (isolation #33)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:13 am

Like, your own point seems to be undermined by what's on the graph??

Isn't the inference at the end there that things are about to get way worse? lol?
Or is your point that maybe it'll be fine for whatever is left after we all die?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22220  (isolation #34)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:26 am

I'm actually baffled.
You linked something which shows that we're going to have a huge increase in temperature relatively to what we've ever dealt with as civilized society.

What were you even trying to prove? Lol???

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22225  (isolation #35)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:38 am

They're not within the range of temperatures of a civilization though?
Lol.

You really think that animals back then survived on farming?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22227  (isolation #36)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 am

You have a shockingly facile view of reality if you think that we can sustain billions of people on this planet without farming.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22229  (isolation #37)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:50 am

oh I can stop posting if you'd like

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22235  (isolation #38)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:21 am

maybe if we engage with Persivul enough over the next ten years he'll be convinced that the left is correct on things.
Think of how powerful his stubborn nature could be if we could harness it against conservatives.

p-edit: except it's the actions of way less than billions of people.
China is actually much more invested in fighting climate change than America is because they aren't denying the science.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22239  (isolation #39)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:23 am

Granted maybe not as invested as they realistically need to be.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22241  (isolation #40)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:25 am

In post 22237, Persivul wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot you can't grow stuff in warm weather. The narrow band of temperature that's existed for all of human civilization is the only temperature at which humans can survive. My bad!
oh yeah true because crops are the same as a single plant.
What are droughts even.
What are food shortages even.
I can't distinguish any of these complicated concepts.

p-edit: I mean, I'm joking. Lol.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22245  (isolation #41)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:39 am

In post 22234, Persivul wrote:India
https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/india/
India is actually a leader in climate change policies too btw.

p-edit: god what a fucking terrible nihilistic view.
Human suffering means nothing to you?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22249  (isolation #42)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am

Can you decide what problematic point of view you want to defend and stick with it instead of changing what you want to defend every time you post?
Because you're constantly just shifting the goalposts of what you want to make a big deal about and every time someone points out how terrible that point is, you just bring up a new point and pretend that nothing has been engaged with.

If you're going to accept the premise that a lot of temperature increase is going to be bad for humans then cool!
You should be able to understand why India hitting a target of 2degrees of warming vs 4degrees of warming is relatively pretty good.

But it seems like you're changing your mind every post.
Is temperature increase bad for humans?
If not, why did you pretend it was bad for a second?
If yes, why are you pretending it wasn't bad now?

Are you arguing in bad faith here?
I hope not, it would hurt my feelings if you were.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22252  (isolation #43)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:07 am

see
skepticism is when you look into things
to confirm if they're actually true

not just doubting things because you can.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22253  (isolation #44)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:12 am

wait wtf how did I start posting in this thread again. that's not okay.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22255  (isolation #45)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:14 am

I feel like if you're just adopting a varied set of premises and trying to defend all of them and most of them are contradictory to each other
how are you supposed to have a meaningful conversation when your POV is changing every time you say anything and you're literally contradicting your own stances.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22258  (isolation #46)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:16 am

In post 22254, Persivul wrote:No one's explained why it would be a tragedy that a self-destructive species self-destructed, leaving room for other species to fill.
If someone shot someone in your family
would you be sad.

Adopting a view like this requires you to ignore that we put value in other people's lives.
Unless you just think everyone's life is completely worthless, which may explain some other stances you've had.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22261  (isolation #47)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:22 am

It'd probably be better for all parties involved if you chose one and stuck with it. Lol.

Are you legitimately just completely apathetic as to whether climate change is happening or not?
Or do you actually just not believe it's happening?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22267  (isolation #48)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:34 am

In post 22263, Persivul wrote:I'm asking you why you think that the earth needs to have billions of people. And more specifically, why you think the earth needs to have billions of people after you're dead, as catastrophe doesn't seem to be at all imminent. I was just at the beach and it looks the same as it did when I was a kid.
Are you willing to acknowledge that you're specifically fine with the idea of billions of people dying rather than just beating around the bush by saying that you're fine with the idea of there being less people in general? Because if that's the distinction you're making then sorry I'm not really there with you that it's okay for billions of people to die via starvation/conflict.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22271  (isolation #49)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:38 am

Also mass starvation in other countries is absolutely going to happen within my lifetime if the temperature projections are accurate?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22280  (isolation #50)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:47 am

persivul wrote:Of course you're not OK with it. But why?
.. is your strategy now to convince me that everyone should just be apathetic to human suffering?
lol.

persivul wrote:Some regions may be less productive, while others will be more productive.
If this is a joke/some sort of weird exercise to try to make a point
it's in pretty bad taste.

If this is serious
then uh
kind of a fucked up thing to believe bud.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22302  (isolation #51)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 am

In post 22300, Fluminator wrote:I may not be the smartest person, but there's this game at the science centre, where two people put on helmets that measure brain activity. There's this ball behind a chamber, and it's a brain waves tug of war. Whoever has LESS brain activity pushes the ball forward and wins.

I absolutely dominated that game every time and impressed the staff.
oh yeah?
In grade 5 I won a chess tournament.

You flexed in the wrong thread mother fucker.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22310  (isolation #52)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:33 am

In post 22307, Fluminator wrote:Dang, if we added the IQs of everyone in this thread, it would probably be higher than Einstein's!
Dead people don't have an IQ.
Idiot.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22332  (isolation #53)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:01 am

oh this seems like a good place to ask right now.
Anyone else watch Rick and Morty?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22336  (isolation #54)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:10 am

you idiots made the mistake of believing that I believe anything

you think you made a good point?

haha idiot you weren't arguing against a real argument

you were arguing against an enigma wrapped in a shadow of an idea of a murmur upon the wind

if only any of you were truly worthy of engaging with my true beliefs.
unfortunately I do not believe any of your weak fragile minds are advanced enough to handle these advanced axioms.
i do this for your own protection, you know.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22341  (isolation #55)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:13 am

A hypothetical position is only useful when you make it really clear that it's not what you actually believe from the start.

IE: I have no fucking clue what you believe because every other post you make is you saying that you don't actually believe what you were just arguing.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22350  (isolation #56)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:20 am

I mean, the people arguing with you about logic were people who weren't pants, equinox and I.
So, really checkmated people by having the ones who didn't care about that argument be more interested in talking about something else?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22352  (isolation #57)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:22 am

Is that why I'm seeing red

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22358  (isolation #58)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:35 am

In post 22353, Persivul wrote:- You don't know those things either
if only there was some kind of like
system
which people could use to ascertain information that is beyond their own ability to parse the world.
like
some kind of like
you know
uh
procedure.
yeah
like a methodology that a lot of people could use and then verify and then publish and then have that be scrutinized.
yeah if only that was a thing.
that we could use to understand how the world is going to work.

Are you going to fall back on that ice age thing again in spite of chamber pointing out that it wasn't the scientific community at large?
Or is science just completely invalid?

Persivul wrote:- I doubt that the world as a whole has any intention of significant changes in fossil fuel use any time soon
- My personal carbon footprint is probably comparable to those of the people crying gloom and doom
We could collectively vote for parties that are at least more willing to tackle this as an issue.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22361  (isolation #59)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:38 am

How do you know what anyone on here does or does not do when they aren't on here?
Lol.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22363  (isolation #60)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:39 am

your scientific rigor was pointing at a graph you didn't understand.
shocking that people are finding your definition of scientific expectations pretty questionable.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22370  (isolation #61)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:46 am

like, you're calling into question all of this scientific research based on a scientist from when you were a kid getting something wrong
because you saw a graph
and think that farming isn't important for people

which means that the majority of the scientific community thinking we're fucked for this specific reason is invalid.
do you not understand how little it feels like you've actually thought about this?

persivul wrote:I see people talking about there lives, and they sound pretty typical.
Yes I talk about my entire schedule regularly
oh it's my thirteenth post for the day it's time to break down my schedule:
12:30-3:00 eat a barrel of oil and spew it onto some ducks
3:15-4:00 start a fire on many trees
4:04-4:05 take a flight from australia to canada
4:06-5:45 feed a turtle some plastic
5:55-6:20 dinner

hope that is enlightening for you as to what my life is like.

fluminator wrote:TBH, when I looked up the counter arguments to climate change there is some interesting stuff.
I guarantee if we talked specifics on this, you would probably agree that most of the figures arguing against climate change being a thing are bad scientists or in the pocket of oil companies.
I've literally done a project on this.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22372  (isolation #62)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:52 am

Can start with the IPCC report?
Why is the IPCC wrong?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22383  (isolation #63)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:00 pm

In post 22376, Fluminator wrote:I need to get some work done, but I might come back to this if you're willing.
As long as you promise to not become a fan of climate change by engaging with me on this :P
It would break my heart if I somehow did that twice with your opinions on something that is objectively bad.
):

p-edit: good lord.
cAn AnYoNe KnOw AnYtHiNg?????????????????
iDk

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22385  (isolation #64)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:01 pm

In post 22380, Persivul wrote:Neither do they.
ahhhhhhhh!HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

How could we ever even have a conversation about anything when this is the extent of your opinion

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22394  (isolation #65)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:10 pm

unless our ability to create models has improved.............................................. since the 50s..... much like literally everything technology-wise has improved?????????????????????????????????

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22401  (isolation #66)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:14 pm

one time there was a thing that was wrong. therefore all things are wrong. I am a logical wizard.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22402  (isolation #67)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:15 pm

this is the same level of rigorous analysis that makes people think the earth is flat.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22404  (isolation #68)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:16 pm

like you're admitting you haven't even looked at it. And you think that this means that you're smarter than the entire scientific community regarding this despite them literally being in the field. I can only imagine how stupid you would think someone would be if they did the same thing to your profession.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22407  (isolation #69)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:19 pm

Medicine in the 20s was dangeorus. Therefore fuck DOCTORS!

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22417  (isolation #70)  » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:29 pm

In post 22412, Persivul wrote:we can manipulate the results
neat where is someone doing that with the IPCC report
just because people can do bad science
does not mean that the moment science does something you disagree with you get to say "YOU CAN'T TRUST SCIENCE DUDE".

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22912  (isolation #71)  » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:29 pm

Ie: If jesus so smart how come he died?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22920  (isolation #72)  » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:48 pm

Why come he didn' live for our sins instead then huh smart guy?
Seems like would be better for him
duh

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22941  (isolation #73)  » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:12 am

Okay im ready to post now that zito has given his blessing

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #22945  (isolation #74)  » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:10 am

Should we wait until Sunday to talk about it too?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24110  (isolation #75)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:04 pm

redlining was within our parent's lifetime and still has very obvious effects.
loans designed to fail were targeted specifically to minorities by insurance companies within the last 20 years on a regular basis.
police departments finance their budgets by over-ticketing minority communities.
prison industrial complex still exists.
voter disenfranchisement still happens.
the war on drugs is still happening.

more than happy to find you sources to educate yourself if you'd like.
Last edited by Cheetory6 on Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24114  (isolation #76)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:11 pm

it kind of seems like you're more for colin kaepernick stopping doing what he's doing than you are for any other kind of cause.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24117  (isolation #77)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:14 pm

and how are you progressing doing that

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24119  (isolation #78)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:18 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... rn-riddell
say hello to sanitizing civil rights movements because it makes a nice clean narrative for centrists.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24122  (isolation #79)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:28 pm

In post 24121, NoPowerOverMe wrote:but it's not just about race it's also about wealth
where do you think america's wealth came from

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24131  (isolation #80)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:39 pm

have already given you a bunch of examples about how class and race do, in fact, intersect quite a bit in terms of systemic modern oppression.
it seems kind of disingenuous to acknowledge that there are modern examples of systemic racism at play that have a significant impact on minority communities and then suddenly pivot and say that the people who want these issues addressed are wrong for wanting them to be addressed.

you may also find that there are many people in these movements who also want to see class issues addressed as well.
you can in fact believe in multiple things at once, contrary to what you might expect.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24133  (isolation #81)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:43 pm

you could choose to focus your time and effort on learning about how best to do that/support people trying to do that
instead of getting mad at someone who said a thing that probably doesn't matter.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24135  (isolation #82)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:45 pm

donating/reading/volunteering are all probably good starting points.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24142  (isolation #83)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:55 pm

In post 24139, Ythan wrote:No offense but I don't think your concern here is that his words hurt our ability to help the unequal whatever that means.
I guess to expand on this
how concerned are you on average with how effective a movement like this is
until it's something that bothers your sensibilities?

because if the only time you're inclined to speak out is when a movement says or does something that bothers you
you're effectively only acting as a roadblock by only ever choosing to stand in front of things related to the movement
instead of ever actually actively supporting something that you believe will actually change things.

p-edit: [This is at NPOM if that was unclear]

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24162  (isolation #84)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:19 pm

national pride is unconstructive in the short and long term for reasons Psyche has been talking about.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24165  (isolation #85)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:23 pm

so just not going to engage with what anyone's saying on that front then?

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24167  (isolation #86)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 24136, Psyche wrote:America's history has some highlights, some moments where it sort of overcame itself and lived up to the ideals it otherwise generally just hides behind. But even those high points were generally only possible because of massive, large-scale depravity, oppression, and genocide. For that reason, it's just not decent to celebrate the country's history with the lack of reservation that's characteristic on July 4. At most we should only be super ambivalent about how the country got where it is today.

Other countries with deeply immoral histories like Germany have a way more grounded and less white-washed appreciation of their nation's crimes, and they get along as coherent nation states just fine — indeed they're better off for it. America can bear to do the same thing and still be America.

In post 24143, Psyche wrote:
In post 24132, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not saying they are wrong. I'm not saying they shouldn't be addressed. I'm saying we can address them as a nation and solve it rather than tearing down the country as the great evil.

I think you're interpreting kaepernick's comments as way more threatening than they really are.

Acknowledging and taking responsibility for our history is no more destructive of our nation than Germany's willingness to acknowledge and take responsibility for the holocaust!

Just as this sort of honesty has actually made Germany a more stable and decent country rather than destroying it, full accounting for America's history will similarly save it and help resolve its fractures and contradictions. What I don't think you get about the current political moment is that our wounds as a country are festering right now. They aren't festering because of Kaepernick or any other high profile leftist. Those guys are just trying to get us to finally dress the wound! They're festering because for so long we as a people (well, white people) have embraced a culture of ignoring its problems and pretending everything's okay. This is the result, and we're gonna keep facing this result until the country's ready to start doing something about it.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24173  (isolation #87)  » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:32 pm

you know who wins when we do incrementalism

I'll give you a hint:
its the people in power

wait that's just the answer, not a hint sorry I'm bad at this.

Cheetory6
MS Painter
 
User avatar
Joined: September 21, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #24978  (isolation #88)  » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:44 pm

sick and tired of kk posting with his boomer gimmick it's so fucking annoying.


[ + ]

Return to General Discussion