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Post Post #17  (isolation #0)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:55 pm

At this point, I'm basically assuming that anyone who votes/supports Trump is an unabashed racist.


I can understand being conservative. I can understand being fed up with the establishment (esp the GOP establishment). What I absolutely cannot comprehend is how anybody could support Trump's obvious racism, pathological lying and backtracking, and willingness to sell out to anyone and anything to increase his publicity.

Categorizing most Mexicans as rapists
Categorizing all Muslims as terrorists
Advocating war crimes by insisting that we bomb extremists' families
Making fun of a disabled reporter
Encouraging violence from his supporters by promising to cover legal fees for those who perform violent acts in his name

These words simply don't come from a person with a shred of moral fiber. To support him is to support white supremacy, oppression of good and innocent people, and the complete disregard of United States law.

Shotty, I'd like to know exactly WHY you support Donald Trump. What policies of his do you agree with, and for what reasons? Because I'm perfectly willing to have a civil and productive conversation with a Trump supporter, except that I have yet to encounter one whose answer to the question "why" isn't some generic bullshit about "he speaks his mind" or "he tells it like it is." Those are deflective non-answers from people who aren't willing to admit that they don't understand his platform or policies, or people who aren't willing to straight-up admit that they're racist bigots.
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Post Post #23  (isolation #1)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:24 pm

I know that, but three things here:
1) Trump's comments weren't directed at only-illegal-immigrants-from-Mexico
2) Being an illegal immigrant still doesn't make you a rapist
3) Trump's comments about Muslims are arguably worse than his statements about Mexicans, and while Islam is technically a religion as opposPogChampd to a race, the combination of his statements towards both groups is indicative of a systemic xenophobic attitude

Many GOP members (and candidates!) want stricter immigration law AND stronger enforcement of said law. And most of them aren't inflammatory racists like Donald Trump is.
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Post Post #24  (isolation #2)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:27 pm

Snotty, do me a favor and read the first point in this article. It is literally a factual rejection of Trump's statemets about undocumented/illegal immigrants.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaesteve ... 0c2d907076

You don't even have to bother with the rest of the article (although I would suggest reading the whole thing for added context) but just read and understand why his statements are false, and perhaps you can understand why they are intended to vilify the group as a whole.
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Post Post #26  (isolation #3)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:36 pm

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... tatements/

A good explanation of how you (shotty) are buying into the rhetoric of a chronic liar. MANY fact-checking groups have shown a large majority of Trump's claims and statements to be completely untruthful. Why do you support this?
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Post Post #60  (isolation #4)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:25 pm

In post 51, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Why is it wrong to want our laws enforced?

Hypocrisy at its finest, folks.
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Post Post #62  (isolation #5)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:29 pm

Yeah, he's either trolling or just the same unapologetic racist that has been literally every Trump supporter I have tried to reason with. Not much more to see here.
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Post Post #63  (isolation #6)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:32 pm

Hey Shotty, a Trump supporter sucker-punched an innocent protester in the face. By your logic, we should condemn 9,999 Trump supporters who haven't (yet) committed any violent crimes in his name.

Personally, I think we should kick all Trump supporters out of the country. There's a non-zero chance any of them could turn violent, so I am willing to sacrifice their rights and freedom to assuage my own fears about personal safety.
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Post Post #65  (isolation #7)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:35 pm

Might have to pre-emptively bomb the families of Trump supporters. We'll just change the laws so it's okay.
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Post Post #67  (isolation #8)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:38 pm

sry dude plz deport urself
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Post Post #69  (isolation #9)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:42 pm

A KKK GRAND WIZARD ENDORSED TRUMP AND TRUMP WOULDNT DISAVOW HIM UNTIL CALLED OUT ON IT MULTIPLE TIMES.


THAT IS DOMESTIC TERRORISM BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
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Post Post #73  (isolation #10)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:46 pm

In post 71, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 69, Glork wrote:A KKK GRAND WIZARD ENDORSED TRUMP AND TRUMP WOULDNT DISAVOW HIM UNTIL CALLED OUT ON IT MULTIPLE TIMES.


THAT IS DOMESTIC TERRORISM BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS.

He had already disavowed them on multiple occasions, why is that always magically forgotten, and the fact that the audio feed went down during that question.

Wow you really have drunk the KKKool-Aid.
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Post Post #78  (isolation #11)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:54 pm

In post 72, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 70, zoraster wrote:Did you just suggest that there's no difference between an ordinary muslim and those in ISIS?

No if anything it would have implied the opposite

No, you're lumping them together. You have implied that because any Muslim *miiiight* be a terrorist, they should be barred from the country.


Let's take another analogy that highlights your hypocrisy. I'm going to assume that you are in favor of gun rights here, so if that is not the case, please correct me.

According to this source, there have been 50 mass shootings (defined as single incidents in which 4 or more people other than the shooter were shot) so far in 2016. That is an alarming rate. However, I do not see you arguing that any gun owner could potentially be a violent mass murderer.

How do you feel about gun violence and the right to own and use guns in America, given the frequency with which gun-toting criminals shed significant innocent blood?
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Post Post #80  (isolation #12)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:57 pm

What's the difference between a white Christian with a gun, and a white Christian with a gun intent on starting a race war by killing black people?

There is a chance that they COULD be the same thing. Do you think we need to take a hard stand against all white Christians just in case?
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Post Post #82  (isolation #13)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:00 pm

Hey instead of strawmanning, how about you address the hypocrisy of supporting gun rights while prosecuting the remote tiny possibility of a Muslim person being a terrorist,
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Post Post #87  (isolation #14)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:10 pm

This isn't about "white guilt." It's about people having double standards.

By any consistent, rational measure, the following statements:
1) "if 1/10000 Muslims are terrorists, we need to bar them from entering the country until we can get this under control"
2) Gun violence is only perpetrated by criminals, it is unfair to crack down on gun rights by the heinous actions of a select few
...are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

And before rhe "oh there goes the liberal bias" response pops up, this goes both ways. People who argue that guns should be banned, but that we should not do our part to mitigate acts of terrorism by radical extremists are equally hypocritical. The problem is, BOTH sides want to have their cake and eat it, too.

This is something that baffles and frustrates me, regardless of political or social tendencies.
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Post Post #89  (isolation #15)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 86, Albert B. Rampage wrote:One of my best friends is a Syrian refugee goddammit, he was going to get deported back to Syria if they didn't let him stay due to the war. This is extremely personal to me. But these issues are complicated. I think that people should make the country they live in great. Immigration for a better life should be a slow process with heavy screening. And the people coming in should embrace their new country and leave behind the customs and values of the old.

My life was saved by a Muslim doctor, and my brother's father in law is Muslim (and, incidentally, has also made significant contributions to the medical field). If we had categorically barred all Muslims from entering the country, I'd be dead, and my brother would not have found his wife.

We all have various connections to these issues. No one scummer's personal anecdote is more relevant or meaningful than another's.
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Post Post #112  (isolation #16)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:55 pm

BUT REDDIT SAID SO.
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Post Post #120  (isolation #17)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:09 pm

BUT THE PRO TRUMP SUB REDDIT SAID SO.

ABr, aren't *you* the one who accused *me* of falling to the deceitful propaganda machine of social media?
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Post Post #3065  (isolation #18)  » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:56 am

His apology video legit reminds me of the abusive alcoholic husband who claims he's "changed" and won't hit his wife after *this* 12-pack of beer.

Terrifying stuff.
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Post Post #3933  (isolation #19)  » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:32 pm

What a macaroon!
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Post Post #3938  (isolation #20)  » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:44 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204747293/

I think it's public right now, so feel free to join? IDK.
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Post Post #3942  (isolation #21)  » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:06 pm

Shotty's biggest achievement in life is being a minor inconvenience in a tiny corner of the vast Internet.

Let that sink in for a moment.
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Post Post #3948  (isolation #22)  » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:16 pm

I posted with my butt once.
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Post Post #3959  (isolation #23)  » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:38 pm

All these replies and not a single "shitposting" joke. MafiaScum, I am so disappointed in you.
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Post Post #11074  (isolation #24)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:28 pm

In post 11063, kuribo wrote:
In post 11055, karnos wrote:Until you can prove it's fake, we have assume it's true.


You fucked a pig.


Prove it's fake, pig fucker.



Burden of proof rests on the person making the claim, btw.

Hey now.

Let's not insult David Cameron like that.
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Post Post #11257  (isolation #25)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:08 pm

In post 11256, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 11255, karnos wrote:
In post 11254, Kublai Khan wrote:
Hey look. Trump says it's fake, but he acknowledges it exists. Nobody tell karnos.
KK proves yet again he has zero capability to reason.

It exists, it is fake- not real.

When KK says it's "not fake", he is saying the opposite of Trump. Weird that he thinks a Trump tweet where Trump is saying the exact opposite somehow proves his point.

Wait. It's not weird, it's pathetic.

Stop being stupid and read.

ITT KK incessantly engages with an Internet Troll.
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Post Post #11279  (isolation #26)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:32 pm

In post 11258, Glork wrote:engages with an Internet Troll.

In post 11260, Kublai Khan wrote:I've tried


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Post Post #16237  (isolation #27)  » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:12 pm

In post 16236, T-Bone wrote:But when your response to someone posting evidence that there was intent of wrong-doing is 'this isn't anything' when it clearly is something how are we supposed to differentiate blind ideology from your opinion when in this case they are the same?

Because the blind ideological response to this Russia thing is 'there isn't anything here, and if there was hard evidence it would exist by now'. How was your initial response so different from that, that I should have seen the nuance?

I just popped in to make my bi-monthly post agreeing with this. Well said.
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