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Post Post #578 (isolation #0) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:37 am

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oh hi.

Joe has made this setup and seeks approval. Maybe should have done so sooner, but the reading of the pages didn't quite happen as planned.


So the setups are read off from each row/column and the 2 diagonals.
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Possible Setups[edit]

The role distribuition possible with this setup are:

1
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town Tracker, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Follower, 1 SK

2
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town 1s BP, 2 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 SK

3
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Tracker, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia 1s BP, 1 Mafia Godfather

4
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town Compulsive Fruit Vendor, 2 Mafia Goon, 2 WW Goon

5
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town 1s PGO, 1 Town Weak Bodyguard, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Follower

6
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 5 Town Citizen, 1 Town 1s BP, 1 Town Vig, 1 Town Compulisve Fruit Vendor, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Follower, 1 Mafia Roleblocker

7
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town Tracker, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 WW Goon, 1 WW Godfather

8
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 7 Town Citizen, 1 Town Tracker, 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Mafia Roleblocker

9
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town 2s PGO, 1 Mafia 1s BP, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Follower, 1 SK

10
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town Weak Bodyguard, 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 SK

11
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 6 Town Citizen, 1 Town Tracker, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Follower, 1 WW Goon, 1 WW Follower

12
1 Town Jailer, 1 Town Cop, 5 Town Citizen, 1 Town Tracker, 1 Town Weak Bodyguard, 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 WW Goon, 1 WW Roleblocker
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Post Post #580 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:38 am

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I can do. I guess I never thought about the significance of standardizing it
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Post Post #583 (isolation #2) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:03 pm

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KAK would appear to be an attempt to change how scum play the game. Maybe just change the name from KAK to 'Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Wifom'.


I mean, I found a reason to kill the seer as mafia when I played?


Its in scum's interest to keep the opposing 'Cop' alive, but how often is it the case where the doc does so?
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Post Post #599 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:01 am

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In post 591, callforjudgement wrote:This seemed balanced when I proposed it (months ago) in the Open Setup Discussion thread, so I'd like to have it properly reviewed here (if I have enough time – which isn't confirmed yet – and it's reviewed as OK I'll run it).

Vote For Town Mafia
  • Nightless
  • 6 Vanilla Townies
  • 2 Mafia Goons
  • Win conditions are
    reversed
    from normal:
    • Town wins if they lose control of the lynch vote (i.e. town = scum)
    • Scum wins if all scum are lynched
  • Players cannot self-vote, except to hammer; self-hammering is legal


EV is 50% exactly, although the game plays out sufficiently differently from both a regular game and a Nightless that it possibly isn't that useful a figure.

Shamelessly nicking this for a micro game. If you are okay with that
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Post Post #601 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:33 am

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Neato. Ill add you to the dead thread
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