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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:30 am

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In post 0, camn wrote:I have pickles, Rye whiskey, and there is an actual cask of wine in the cellar

your apartment has a wine cellar...?

that IS crazy

/confirm
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Post Post #120 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:16 pm

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I HAVE ARRIVED

brb, i have to go take a massive shit. hope camn has a plunger in the bathroom.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:28 pm

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hm.... 5 pages i thought i would have more... or at least something... to say

i really dont
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Post Post #123 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:34 pm

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uhhhhhhhhh
uhhhhhhhhh

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Post Post #125 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:43 pm

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oooo
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i got this one

"antihero isn't posting unfiltered thoughts and being assertive. SCUMZORZ"

it's gonna' get pretty tiresome pretty quickly if that's how youre reading me
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Post Post #127 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:09 am

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i agree w/ all those except the last thing
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Post Post #129 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:35 am

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In post 128, Tiresias wrote:Their entrance is the only town-indicative post on page 2, imo.

?????????????????????????????????
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Post Post #131 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:39 am

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.....

..

ok
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Post Post #136 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:16 am

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In post 132, Aiden Stark wrote:Fire might not be town, but I am.

i mean...

him not giving me room until i can get a good grip on the game and slapping a scum label on me for super terrible reasons is anti town at best and kinda' scummy at worst.

even if he's using his "ive never seen anti come up empty as town before" he's also seen me as scum before and, by his apparently rigid paradigm of meta, it's not "like me" to do what i'm doing now as scum either so... what gives?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:42 am

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In post 137, Aiden Stark wrote:So, why are you so worried about it?

because i still need to sort you...? thats an odd way to frame what i said.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:43 am

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whats your main?
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Post Post #141 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:44 am

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In post 138, Davsto wrote:Please! Oh please let me join the RVS wagon on me!

VOTE: Davsto

you could start talking about your fire townread.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #12) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:46 am

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In post 142, Aiden Stark wrote:
In post 139, Antihero wrote:
In post 137, Aiden Stark wrote:So, why are you so worried about it?

because i still need to sort you...? thats an odd way to frame what i said.

It didn't look like you trying to sort. It looked like you overreacting to a passing remark.

haha what?

whats your main?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #13) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:48 am

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In post 144, Aiden Stark wrote:
In post 140, Antihero wrote:whats your main?

Xkfyu

came up empty in a search

how would you know if fire meant it in "passing" and how is what i said an overreaction?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #14) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:50 am

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found you and youre not a newb

and now im scum reading you
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Post Post #149 (isolation #15) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:55 am

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well im null on fire but im scumreading whoever the other head is
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Post Post #150 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:57 am

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please x man. regale me on how scummy it is to comment on a post in the thread. please tell me how "important" it has to be before it merits a response.

or admit youre making up arbitrary shit to keep me on the defensive.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:47 am

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VOTE: aiden
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Post Post #154 (isolation #18) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:49 am

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In post 151, Aiden Stark wrote:Over-the-top sarcasm and an immediate scum read on us is pretty telling.

where was i being sarcastic?

keep talking out your ass and digging your grave.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:51 am

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im not getting lynched today or ever so fire should probably go ahead and get ready to pretend to "change his mind" on me sometume soon.

just a heads up
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Post Post #158 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:00 am

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you know i was coming into this game thinking "im going to take my time and just take things easy this game."

nope apparently i cant have that

well now youve got high strung and emotional antihero back now. happy? we all satisfied now that im "playing my town meta" now?

fuck
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Post Post #160 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:03 am

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In post 156, Xkfyu wrote:Everything except for that last sentence was clearly sarcasm.

thats over the top to you?

horseshit
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Post Post #204 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:28 am

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In post 182, Aiden Stark wrote:Okay, this is an interest reaction to my scumread.
Which in all honesty, was a complete reaction test.

In post 182, Aiden Stark wrote:Ohh come on man. I got much love for you. Lets play the game and figure shit out and post lolcats.
We don't got to take this game so serious, you know that.

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Post Post #208 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:31 am

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In post 202, You Got Schooled wrote:I don't like this entrance from Anti at all.

what?

what don't you like about it?
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Post Post #210 (isolation #24) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:42 am

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i had no idea me saying i didnt get anything reads wise from the first five pages was going to be SUCH an issue

i just... dont know what to say
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Post Post #218 (isolation #25) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:01 am

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In post 213, You Got Schooled wrote:I don't know why you're asking this? You already know full well why I didn't like it Anti.

see, that's what's driving me crazy

you and firebringer both know i'm opinionated and ridiculously high strung. so instead of me just HAVING my mellow post-bowel movement moment, i MUST deliver to your expectations or face the potshots

...and then if THAT DRIVES ME BACK to being the crazy high strung person, i'm THEN scum for "overreacting"...
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Post Post #219 (isolation #26) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 214, You Got Schooled wrote:So, 9 pages and not a whole lot of content.

Boss.

are you fucking kidding me?

you just gave me shit for saying THE SAME THING

back on page 5
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Post Post #223 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:12 am

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that was x-man whoever fire's hydra partner is.

but he gets the excuse of not knowing me.

you and fire don't.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:18 am

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In post 222, You Got Schooled wrote:I mean, do I expect a lot from you as town? Yeah, I do. So when you don't deliver it immediately sets off bells in my head.

if i wanted someone standing over my shoulder and relentlessly nagging me about the quality of my posting,

i would've joined as heartless

IM NOT A WIZARD

JEEZ
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Post Post #227 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:23 am

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yeah, my alcohol addled brain will not remember that

he's x-man now
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Post Post #228 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:23 am

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i also have signatures turned off so i guess i'm shit out of luck there
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Post Post #266 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:02 pm

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In post 192, pisskop wrote:What a response to a passing question


if something is said "in passing" then it's not worth saying in the thread

stop using that qualification
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Post Post #277 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:47 am

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/sigh

still in the funk
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Post Post #278 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:52 am

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In post 207, You Got Schooled wrote:I don't get this read Anti? Help me out?

i mostly expect the "overreaction" and "defensive" scumtells to come from newbies who don't know any better.
also it's not really a good read. more of a vote out of annoyance. ok, it was all a vote out of annoyance.

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Post Post #279 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:53 am

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why did you vote fate?
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Post Post #280 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:04 am

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i just feel really
~blah~
about everything that's happened so far

yeah davsto's marquis vote is pretty bad but is davsto scummy for it?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

idk

i have a few maybe townreads
and one maybe scumread but i really dont want to talk about it yet

i need someone to inspire me to greatness.

kick me in the butt.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:06 am

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In post 283, Tiresias wrote:VOTE: Performer

i get the whole thing about brandi being talked about like it's a player-caused thing is so excruciating and cringeworthy

but i'm not on the performer train

tell me more about this plz kagami (or nacho, but i'm assuming this has been kagami posting this whole time)
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Post Post #292 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:53 am

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no one has wished me a happy scumday and now i am very sad
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Post Post #394 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:15 pm

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In post 381, ProHawk wrote:Ok, lemme see if I can get a read on the current events:

Davsto was wagoned because of the way he responded to RVS.
Performer is playing the incredible newbie card.
DNTTUS was wagoned because?
Pisskop and DNTTU get into a rift.

I probably missed a bunch of stuff, but its hard to sift through the fluff from the meat speed reading.

In post 382, ProHawk wrote:I've been burned getting tunnel visioned on people who self vote. I believe that there is huge scum-motivation to self voting and little town-motivation, but the last time I pushed that angle that particular person turned out to be town. I suppose it could come from either town or scum, or rather its probably more based on personality than alignment....

yikes
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Post Post #395 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:21 pm

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In post 358, You Got Schooled wrote:OK, but you ARE good at this game. So, when you read 5 pages and come up COMPLETELY EMPTY, like not a single thing to say, what do you want me to think Anti?

im not in the business of micromanaging other ppl so... nothing
that still doesn't explain why you think it's scummy (your shitty way of couching it notwithstanding)
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Post Post #396 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:22 pm

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In post 361, You Got Schooled wrote:Because [fate's] jump on Davsto was bad.

In post 369, You Got Schooled wrote:Caught up.

I'll lynch any of Davsto, Fate, Performer, Marquis and Kahlan.

In post 370, You Got Schooled wrote:VOTE: Davsto

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post Post #399 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:04 pm

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ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I DONT KNOW
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Post Post #401 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:46 pm

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actually voting aiden but its not a good vote
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Post Post #452 (isolation #43) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 436, You Got Schooled wrote:I have no idea what your problem is here Anti?

well we can start w/ the obvious.

why do you think fate's vote was bad if you think davsto's scum?
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Post Post #453 (isolation #44) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:17 pm

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someone asked me why i think davsto's scum and i don't. my vote for him at the beginning was shameless bandwagoning.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #45) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:08 pm

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so far, i've got townreads on: pisskop, Aiden Stark (Hydra of Firebringer and Xyfyu), Kahlan, Davsto, Fate

pisskop
im really not going to overthink here. he's doing what he did in sc's game: not going out of his way to be charismatic or make friends. he's pushing not awesome things but that's what he does and there isn't a clear agenda-serving purpose that sticks out at me.

aiden
is a working townread based on butt stuff that i dont really care to expound on and wont question unless something tells me to.

kahlan
got off to a rocky start w/ the whole "lynch me if it helps town" (wtf?), but i thought her and were really town. 421: she didn't try to force the pisskop read or make up shit or dress it up. 488 is pretty town in that she saw a read she disagreed w/ but didn't whiteknight and couched her question as a doublecheck. she's not totally transparent, but i think it's from not-really-confident newbtown. (going to try to not overthink or get paranoid about this read either.)

davsto
's probably town and it's probably my most solid townread here. yeah yeah yeah something something self vote and the marquis vote isn't sooper dooper awesome but he just... FEELS town. highlights of posts i think are pretty town: (i like it for the reason that fate apparently DIDN'T like it; he doesn't concern himself with pushing "inaccuracies" as scummy), (more good stuff, i'm also kind of questioning performer's angle here), (yeah this is thoughtful and pretty town).

Fate
i'm currently still in the process of making myself happy w/ a solid townread here and i'm pretty close so i'll just go ahead and put him up here. i like where his head's at (, , ). i don't agree w/ his davsto stuff but i think that's b/c it just took him a little time to hit his stride this game.

the rest:


Marquis

i liked b/c i was thinking the same thing about nachogami at the time and i'm townreading the ate'ishness of kinda'. not enough legit meaty reads for this to be a great read though.

Performer

ok so when i started putting together this post, i thought this would be a townread b/c his cadence here seems pretty strikingly different from strangercoug's game.
but there are some red flags here
first there's the thing with "brandi's kill." i'm talking about . (there's the obvious fact that camn never said that brandi was "town" anywhere in the "flip" but performer assumed brandi was town. that's....uh.... something.) "i'm shocked and horrified"...? hammy. there's where he acknowledges that it could be a reaction test but he goes full steam ahead with the "wtf Y U CLAIM?" line. it's this odd mix of awareness and doing what's "expected."
there's also a couple places where he goes out of his way to ingratiate himself to me: ,

there's stuff that makes me think "could be town" like . so i don't know, i feel like THAT'S maybe what i should be going with b/c the brandi thing might be an honest fuck-up?...
specifically, the reaction to the brandi stuff just hit some "informed minority" notes and it really freaks me out and has me second guessing this read

DO NOT TALK TO US (Hydra of lalaladucks and DeathRowKitty)

this hydra's really not on my radar in terms of content.
i played w/ ducks where she was scum recently and she was really detached but that game didn't go well for her at all from beginning to end so dont know how much stock to put into that.
the annoyed pushback on pisskop's early stuff on feels vaguely town
there's not really much beyond that though. from the length of their iso i initially thought they had more content than this. :\
like marquis, this is another one were i need to see more reads to make a better judgement

Tiresias (Hydra of Nachomamma8 and Kagami)

ok, so you remember back in my when i talked about a "maybe scumread"?
nachogami was that maybe scumread.
it was kagami's early ygs read in (which i was kinda questioning at the time). it felt like kagami was a little heavy handed on a not-really-great ygs townread and my first instinct there was "kagami's scum and she's overplaying her omniscience hand." i didn't press it at the time though b/c i wanted to give nacho and kagami room w/o getting on their asses and see what they came up with. nacho's apparent absence kind of foiled that though. :\
i haven't really seen enough of kagami's stuff to get a good grip on what she's REALLY thinking. the perfomer stuff makes enough sense. the reversal on the ygs read in is still bouncing around my head and i still don't get it but i'll give it a while to sink in. admittedly i'm a little drunk rn but it's evading me. she thinks they're scummy because they didn't explicitly acknowledge her townread? that's kind of weak b/c townies ignore townreads on themselves all the time and (conversely) scum pooh-pooh and play devil's advocate on townreads on them all the time. maybe i'm misinterpreting that? again, i'll let that simmer b/c i feel like i'm not quite getting the subtleties here maybe?????

there's not really a realistic chance of me voting them day 1 b/c kagami's really smart and i value her too much as a player to lynch her day 1. there's a lot of question marks surrounding this hydra for me though.

ProHawk

pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
ok this guy seems to always be a reads list pitfall for me.
so... i'm already keeping that in mind.

I CAN'T HELP BUT HATE HATE HATE HIS POSTS THOUGH.
jeez.

and are pretty soulless summaries. since then he's been exclusively questioning: , , so i could maybe buy him struggling to get a good handle on what's been happening and 381 and 382 were his attempts at doing so?

i don't know yet. i kind of don't want to prejudice this read before prohawk really says something substantive pbpbpbptpajpspkjksajlfjd;lkafjdsaf

You Got Schooled (Hydra of Bellaphant and BlueBloodedToffee)

best for last, eh?
none of bbt's stuff is really resonating w/ me and his readslist is this weird menagerie of wtf. the only one on there that i may be on board w/ is performer. it's weird to me that you could have BOTH a davsto and fate scumread. i guess you could call it bussing(?) but that's kind of a hard thing to try to root out day 1 so i don't know. this is what i was trying to say in my post a while ago and i'd like to hear what scumhunting framework bbt was working from to give him that.

thing w/ bbt is that he's kind of unfocused and all over the place (which i kind of expect MORE from townbbt than scumbbt).

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ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
this is so hard and just the act of doing this makes me feel like a dumb fuck and the remedial scumhunter in this game

if you asked me "who's the most likely to actually BE scum?" i would say tiresias. i just have this sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that something is wrong. i'm not nearly confident in my intuition to actually vote there though.
for performer i'm trying to avoid falling into the trap of "OMGZ HE SCUMSLIPPED" b/c i know MOST of the time whenever i think there's a scumslip it's not real. but i kind of think he slipped. why did he assume brandi was town? and did he ever really think pisskop was being serious? (i wouldn't think so)
there's the drk/ducks hydra that's kind of an empty void in my head.
and there's bellabbt and that read is just frying my brain b/c bbt isn't on my wavelength but i'm not sure if that's b/c he's scum and he's not looking for the same things i am or he's just off
and there's prohawk the perennial HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO SCUMMY KILL THIS NOW KILL THIS WITH FIRE

also it's almost 3 am here and i kind of just want to go to sleep now. my brain's just a pile of mush at this point b/c there's no obvscum place for my vote

i don't know i just have to get some sleep. i'm exhausted and drunk and pretty bummed out.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:32 am

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fine if youre going to be so dense and hostile and opaque for no apparent reason

VOTE: ygs
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Post Post #470 (isolation #47) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:48 am

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In post 462, Tiresias wrote:I agree on pisskop town and I'll call Fate town too, though for very different reasons.

so you dont agree on davsto?

why?
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Post Post #472 (isolation #48) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:14 am

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the latest series of kagami posts aren't really helping ease any concerns there.

is nacho back yet? sorry kagami ily but you're really freaking me out. i dont know if im just not SEEING things that give your thoughts town flair or what
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Post Post #475 (isolation #49) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:47 am

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In post 473, Performer wrote:A mother with kids ? Folks like that have a tough time lying.

you...

incredibly sheltered person
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Post Post #476 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 474, You Got Schooled wrote:
In post 465, Fate wrote:
His alignment and the rest of the game state matter a whole lot. In your fantasy Fate+Davsto scumteam world, does it make sense for me to vote him in that manner?

His alignment doesn't matter in relation to your vote.

Yeah, it does. You gave no reasoning for joining the wagon so have an easy hop off whenever you need it.

Would be a vote for distancing purposes later in the game if you're both scum.

In post 469, Antihero wrote:fine if youre going to be so dense and hostile and opaque for no apparent reason

VOTE: ygs

Sigh.

i'm still not hearing why the davsto vote was so bad and scummy
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Post Post #478 (isolation #51) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:58 am

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that tells me nothing
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Post Post #484 (isolation #52) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:24 am

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In post 480, Tiresias wrote:No word from nacho, but I'm pretty sure I'm looking in the right direction, anyway, so it's hard to imagine that I'm lacking town flair.

oh well

dont i feel foolish now?
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Post Post #485 (isolation #53) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:29 am

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In post 483, You Got Schooled wrote:fate made a crappy unexplained vote, then backed it up with a fairly decent set of points about the self votes, then moves off dav because he's 'reasonable'.

yes, this is how conversations go sometimes. the person you suspect changes your mind. why is that scummy IN THIS CASE.
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Post Post #487 (isolation #54) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:39 am

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what was not good enough about it? he pointed out inaccuracies in the argument. what was so unspeakably bad?

i also dont see anything about fate "admitting" anything, so apparently i'm reading a different thread than you
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Post Post #489 (isolation #55) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:41 am

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why is everyone being so fucking standoffish to me? is it me? am i doing something to MAKE it like this?

really this clenched anus feel is something i do not do well in
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Post Post #491 (isolation #56) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:44 am

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In post 488, You Got Schooled wrote:
In post 428, Fate wrote:In hindsight I may have backed down too easily

Right here.

ok thats what youre talking about. i see that.

i mean... i dont really agree w/ that. i would have backed down in fate's position so i guess thats something i dont agree with.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #57) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:02 am

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In post 492, You Got Schooled wrote:OK, well for me that whole back and forth with Fate and Davsto was very show offy/scum theatre like. Here is how it went;

Like, Fate presents what I believe was a half decent case against Davsto. Davsto responds in an unsatisfactory way IMO, Fate retracts his entire case and backs off. Davsto then doesn't push Fate for presenting a bad case, and then Fate calls Davsto out for not pushing him after presenting such a bad case.

Immediately after, Fate says that Davsto is 'too reasonable to kill' (strange choice of word) and then Davsto says he thinks Fate is probably town for just accepting his case was bad (even though it wasn't).

Big song and dance but they both end up just lightly town reading each other?

So, yeah. That's where I'm at.

i can maybe see how you think that. i don't agree w/ it b/c i dont agree w/ the basic premise that davsto's response wasn't good.

is this bella? if so, do you have anything on the rest of the playerlist outside of fate and davsto?
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Post Post #496 (isolation #58) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:08 am

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You Got Schooled wrote:Hey Anti, what can I do for you?

-b

(bbt was just pretending to be reasonable :P)

In post 493, Antihero wrote:do you have anything on the rest of the playerlist outside of fate and davsto?
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Post Post #498 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:30 am

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sc's game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=63704 performer's iso isn't that long of a read.

who's tier?
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Post Post #499 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:32 am

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oh youre talking about tiresias
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Post Post #500 (isolation #61) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:37 am

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well that bella post was actually pretty town.

In post 497, You Got Schooled wrote:Tier's made some not quite logical points, but I can kinda see a progression in them I think is townie. Plus, his nudge to us about performer voting was actually pretty ++

what do you mean about the progression? that's the part that's kind of setting of some alarms for me.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #62) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:38 pm

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i have no clue why pisskop always insists on being so unnecessarily antagonistic
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Post Post #520 (isolation #63) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:43 pm

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sucks
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Post Post #524 (isolation #64) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:47 pm

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i am fucking staring at nacho at the bottom of the page and im hoping theres a post in the works
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Post Post #526 (isolation #65) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:50 pm

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In post 502, You Got Schooled wrote:I think it's more the fact he's reacting to things: his point about how we should've been able to read his mind about his post/vote and were scummy for not doing it was ridiculous, but town-ridiculous. Talk to me more about alarms?

-b

ok see kagami isn't ridiculous though

i think of her as reasonable and competent as town and i'm concerned that things feel so awkward w/ her
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Post Post #527 (isolation #66) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:50 pm

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ah shit

i'm drooling on myself
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Post Post #542 (isolation #67) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:52 pm

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Spoiler: hi drunk nacho
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Post Post #544 (isolation #68) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:02 pm

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mhm
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Post Post #546 (isolation #69) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:47 pm

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VOTE: tiresias

nacho, i just took a some benedryl w/ a swig of vodka and i've got house on my tv in the background

you have until i pass out to change my mind
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Post Post #584 (isolation #70) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:58 am

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In post 574, ProHawk wrote:Someone help me get into this game. I don't think I have ever been so bored in a game...

Pisskop, get a little more pissy with me.

replace out. theres other ppl that actually want to play if you dont want your slot.
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Post Post #591 (isolation #71) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:10 am

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In post 585, ProHawk wrote:I want to play... don't be a dick.

im not being a dick. you said you were bored.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #72) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:11 am

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hating performers latest posts
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Post Post #593 (isolation #73) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 580, Performer wrote:Anti I have at null

last time i heard this you were scum
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Post Post #594 (isolation #74) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:23 am

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theres also pretty significant overlap in reads here. how am i null to you?
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Post Post #613 (isolation #75) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:55 pm

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In post 596, You Got Schooled wrote:Also, pk, anti, kah and marquis: your votes are boring.


i couldn't disagree more and i'm disappointed to hear that from you
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Post Post #621 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:24 am

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In post 620, Fate wrote:well what about their latest posts?

haven't gleaned anything alignment indicative from it yet.
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Post Post #622 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:35 am

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In post 620, Fate wrote:Kahlan's slot is getting dimmer by the second though

/siiiiiiiiigh i kinda' see what you're saying in recent posts b/c she's just been treading water but i'm still trying to not get paranoid about her (that's going to make this game SO much more difficult than it already is)

like look at this:
In post 448, Kahlan wrote:@performer, you got schooled, Antihero why do you guys still feel like Davsto is scum? I really didn't get that vibe when I was reading his post. I however haven't played with him before and the self vote he did before might have been motivated by him being scum and wanting to appear town but I'm not sure. Does he have a lot of scum signs that I'm missing?


i really don't see this coming from someone who already knows davsto's alignment. it just seems so... genuine. i don't know am i a sucker?
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Post Post #699 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:17 am

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intriguing
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Post Post #700 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:18 am

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is camn awesome enough

to do what i think she may have done?
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Post Post #703 (isolation #80) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:22 am

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what am i about to say dave?
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Post Post #706 (isolation #81) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:24 am

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oh no

that'd just be troll-ish
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Post Post #708 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:27 am

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scum psychiatrist

+

sk
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Post Post #711 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:32 am

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if that's really it

i am REALLY jealous i didn't think of that first
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Post Post #713 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:35 am

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In post 710, Davsto wrote:hmm

care to elaborate?


it's a really elegant way of giving a scumteam an opportunity to neutralize the sk w/o completely fucking the sk in process.

and it serves as a really sweet "confirmable" role people will largely think is "supposed" to be town
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Post Post #715 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:47 am

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camn doesn't think alignments changing is bastard.......?
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Post Post #717 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:51 am

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hm....

i don't know if camn is awesome enough to make the psychiatrist scum. he had a town one in her last game
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Post Post #718 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:52 am

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camn's apartment 1 was a roleblocker and a goon against 3 vt, 1 cop, and 1 deputy

camn's temperamental was

TEMPERAMENTALMAFIA

1 name cop (Architect)
1 ninja (Fieldmarshal)
1 roleblocker (Inventor)

vs.

2 watchers (crafter, promoter)
1 tracker (counselor)
1 name cop (supervisor)
1 psychiatrist (protector)
5 vanilla (provider, performer, healer, teacher, champion)
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Post Post #719 (isolation #88) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:53 am

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oh.........well

she's done a psychiatrist and no sk
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Post Post #720 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:57 am

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In post 718, Antihero wrote:TEMPERAMENTALMAFIA

1 name cop (Architect)
1 ninja (Fieldmarshal)
1 roleblocker (Inventor)

vs.

2 watchers (crafter, promoter)
1 tracker (counselor)
1 name cop (supervisor)
1 psychiatrist (protector)
5 vanilla (provider, performer, healer, teacher, champion)

whew....

it don't mean a thing

if it aint got that swing
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Post Post #722 (isolation #90) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 697, Tiresias wrote:As it stands, my strong townreads are {Antihero, Fate, Pisskop,
DNTTU
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any particular reason for this?
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Post Post #724 (isolation #91) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:06 pm

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In post 721, Davsto wrote:So YGS probably is an SK because I doubt camn would pull the same "psych but no sk" twice

you're treading in very treacherous waters
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Post Post #726 (isolation #92) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:10 pm

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also i have very little doubt nachogami is actually a psychiatrist.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #93) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:32 am

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In post 751, Fate wrote:yeah but

It would mean mafia have an ability that turns a NONTOWN faction into a TOWN FACTION

like

lolwut

eh, for scum that wouldn't be a big deal

for them it's a better deal that someone outside the scumteam goes from having a kill to NOT having a kill.

don't rly want to pound this theory into the ground b/c it's become a pet theory now but yeah, that's what that is
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Post Post #759 (isolation #94) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:23 am

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if anyone has a townread on do not talk to me plz share w/ me

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Post Post #831 (isolation #95) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:42 pm

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if performer is scum here, he improved significantly from the last time he was scum

an improvement i don't think he plausibly achieved.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #96) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:46 pm

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In post 454, Antihero wrote:there's the obvious fact that camn never said that brandi was "town" anywhere in the "flip" but performer assumed brandi was town. that's....uh.... something

by the way, the "flip" was in spoilers in the first post. figured that out later no thanks to you ppl.

thanks everyone, now i know NO ONE read 454
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Post Post #834 (isolation #97) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:26 pm

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VOTE: do not talk to us
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Post Post #844 (isolation #98) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 840, Performer wrote:Now that you bring that reads list back up, I see why you're voting DNTTU and your case on that slot is compelling

i don't really have a case b/c i don't really have any strong scum reads

i just think they've been among the least town
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Post Post #851 (isolation #99) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:16 pm

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In post 848, Performer wrote:are you comfortable trying to work with someone like this in LyLo?

well the solution to that is simple

don't let it get to lylo
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Post Post #853 (isolation #100) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:21 pm

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yeah... i think prohawk's town and that's a red herring too
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Post Post #861 (isolation #101) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:40 pm

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don't let x-man talk you into settling for a suboptimal vote, fire.

strive for excellence.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #102) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:42 pm

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In post 860, Aiden Stark wrote:Antihero, my buddy says he has a town read on Tierisas, and I myself am null.
Can you convince my buddy he is wrong?


probably not. i've been a little bit of a dick to him (even though i really didn't intend to) and he probably hates me by now.

if i had to guess, he's townreading tiresias' ACTIVITY

invite him to treat himself to a nacho scumgame sometime
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Post Post #871 (isolation #103) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:50 pm

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Aiden Stark wrote:
In post 861, Antihero wrote:don't let x-man talk you into settling for a suboptimal vote, fire.

strive for excellence.

I think the Performer wagon is pretty bad, I think he is mislynch bait, I guess you agree?
Why should I join the wagon you are on?

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In post 844, Antihero wrote:
In post 840, Performer wrote:Now that you bring that reads list back up, I see why you're voting DNTTU and your case on that slot is compelling

i don't really have a case b/c i don't really have any strong scum reads

i just think they've been among the least town
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Post Post #880 (isolation #104) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:10 pm

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this conversation is stupid and you and pk should feel bad
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Post Post #881 (isolation #105) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:10 pm

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In post 880, Antihero wrote:this conversation is stupid and you and pk should feel bad

(performer and pisskop)
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Post Post #900 (isolation #106) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:21 pm

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In post 896, Performer wrote:I was townreading Kahlan but never in my life would I have expected this ...interaction to happen with kuribo. There is something wrong about that claim like that after I put that reaction test there.

no, there's not
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Post Post #905 (isolation #107) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:23 pm

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ok well then enjoy being heavily wrong
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Post Post #907 (isolation #108) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:25 pm

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MARQUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

i need help restoring sanity
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Post Post #911 (isolation #109) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:39 pm

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/soft moan
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Post Post #921 (isolation #110) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:26 pm

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ok

i'm gonna' go shove a corncob up my ass and go to sleep now

night
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #111) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:59 pm

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Spoiler:
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #112) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:03 am

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In post 990, pisskop wrote:a psychiatrist is wifomy if not real.

also a good guise for a rolecop claim, but if nacho baited a vig claim. . .?


does anyone see reason to think he made that up on the fly?

the psychiatrist thing is probably true

it also says nothing about nacho's alignment

can this discussion please die now?
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #113) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:07 am

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In post 973, Marquis wrote:UNVOTE:

it wasn't a reaction test but i am kind of. torn.

anti help me with where to go from here

the last few pages were exceedingly stupid and kuribo is town.
you're on the right track again, so no harm done.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #114) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:11 am

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you should also go ahead and claim x marquis

the utility of clearing ppl w/ it exceeds the utility of keeping it a secret.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #115) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:12 am

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In post 1018, Fate wrote:I don't know man.

If I were scum in this situation I'd just kill Marquis and claim tracker with all the other clowns

and Marquis would die with his precious information, not that its precious since we don't even know if its Trackers "in the game" or town tracker

At this point I just want a flip


>marquis claims
>we flip dnttu

sound like a plan?
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #116) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:40 am

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In post 1024, Davsto wrote:
In post 1022, Fate wrote:"ideally we can make a way to make that happen"

Right so my thought is

Marquis' role is a role that we have no idea what it is, right? Like, we know its title is tracker "something", but not what the something is

So he could do something like "if I flip tracker detector, there are 2 trackers in the game, if I flip tracker radar there are 3 trackers in the game..." etc etc, or it could be the amount of punctuation in one paragraph of his role PM or something like that.

So we only know what the number of trackers are when he feels it necessary to claim because there have been too many tracker claims, or when he dies

...

Am I overthinking this?

if marquis can come up w/ a system of hypoclaiming, that'll be fine too.

just outright claiming x isn't really helping scum that much (at this point putting themselves in the "claimed tracker" pool would be pretty dumb)

but... whatever marquis wants to do. either way will work.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #117) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:42 am

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In post 1027, You Got Schooled wrote:Davsto's sudden involvement in the game based around set-up spec is scummy. Set-up spec is a favourite for scum to take part in.

Davsto is prob getting my bullet. I'm also highly demotivated with this game and look forward to D1 ending any time soon.


/sigh

if dnttu actually does flip scum, i'm really not seeing any scenario where nachogami is town.

but you really can't do that...


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Post Post #1072 (isolation #118) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:34 am

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davsto cw is dumb
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #119) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:36 am

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like... i get that town is doing everything in their power to implode on themselves and not lynch scum but can we please not do that and lynch dnttu

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Post Post #1076 (isolation #120) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:41 am

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fate, plz vote dnttu
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #121) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:25 am

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thank you fate

bellabt, davsto, and pk plz do the same
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #122) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:29 am

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theyre at 4 by my count. check me and keep up w it

dont hammer before marquis claims or hypoclaims
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #123) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:29 am

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i think dav puts them at 5
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #124) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:30 am

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In post 1080, Davsto wrote:If DNTTU is scum, I'd guess for one of pisskop/Nahdia being scum pushing me as a counterwagon

betting it's town derp but we can deal w that later
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #125) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:04 am

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OOOOOOOOH

In post 981, Marquis wrote:i am an informed townie who knows there are x trackers in town

i was under the impression you knew they were town. in that case you can claim it or not. the number itself is pretty useless. the only thing we really know now is that scum p much have to have a ninja.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #126) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:06 am

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im now w pisskop that the day's served its purpose and we're to the point where we need a flip

lynch dnttu at will.
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #127) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:09 am

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HEY HEY

guess who i saw target nahdia?
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #128) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:09 am

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VOTE: prohawk
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #129) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:29 am

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In post 1112, Tiresias wrote:
In post 1109, pisskop wrote:School, are you now a VT?

No. We didn't get confirmation of a successful target.

does that imply your action was blocked
or that bellabt isn't an sk

or is it ambiguous
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #130) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:32 am

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yep that's what i'm thinking too
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #131) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:32 am

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^that bellabt isn't an sk
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #132) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:05 pm

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happy birthday bella!
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Post Post #1706 (isolation #133) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:30 am

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#secret lylo

neat
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Post Post #1707 (isolation #134) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:32 am

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aside from the secret lylo i actually quite liked the setup, it was interesting. also liked the flavor. good overall modding job camn.
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #135) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:37 am

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i also hope we all learned a valuable lesson that role is not the same thing as alignment
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #136) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:52 am

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In post 1711, Kagami wrote:Well, more that crazy factional abilities are possible.

yes

also this
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #137) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:03 am

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open the scum pt

i need to see what kagami and nacho said about me behind my back
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #138) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:29 am

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In post 1738, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1723, camn wrote:
In post 1720, Antihero wrote:open the scum pt

i need to see what kagami and nacho said about me behind my back


If they say I can!

only if antihero promises not to cry


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Post Post #1743 (isolation #139) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:14 am

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In post 1739, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1707, Antihero wrote:aside from the secret lylo i actually quite liked the setup, it was interesting. also liked the flavor. good overall modding job camn.

surprise lylo = surprise 7 trackers


the fact you were all pr's should given you an inkling that town was power heavy at the very least
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Post Post #1809 (isolation #140) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 71, Kagami wrote:I would be very surprised if anti ever becomes lynchable, and I would be surprised if he ends up not being a substantial threat.


kagami said something nice about me. :]

i'll just ride this high for a while...
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