so far, i've got townreads on: pisskop, Aiden Stark (Hydra of Firebringer and Xyfyu), Kahlan, Davsto, Fate
pisskop
im really not going to overthink here. he's doing what he did in sc's game: not going out of his way to be charismatic or make friends. he's pushing not awesome things but that's what he does and there isn't a clear agenda-serving purpose that sticks out at me.
aiden
is a working townread based on butt stuff that i dont really care to expound on and wont question unless something tells me to.
kahlan
got off to a rocky start w/ the whole "lynch me if it helps town" (wtf?), but i thought her
Post 421 and
Post 488 were really town. 421: she didn't try to force the pisskop read or make up shit or dress it up. 488 is pretty town in that she saw a read she disagreed w/ but didn't whiteknight and couched her question as a doublecheck. she's not totally transparent, but i think it's from not-really-confident newbtown. (going to try to not overthink or get paranoid about this read either.)
davsto
's probably town and it's probably my most solid townread here. yeah yeah yeah something something self vote and the marquis vote isn't sooper dooper awesome but he just... FEELS town. highlights of posts i think are pretty town:
Post 274 (i like it for the reason that fate apparently DIDN'T like it; he doesn't concern himself with pushing "inaccuracies" as scummy),
Post 319 (more good stuff, i'm also kind of questioning performer's angle here),
Post 321 (yeah this is thoughtful and pretty town).
Fate
i'm currently still in the process of making myself happy w/ a solid townread here and i'm pretty close so i'll just go ahead and put him up here. i like where his head's at (
Post 271,
Post 276,
Post 391). i don't agree w/ his davsto stuff but i think that's b/c it just took him a little time to hit his stride this game.
the rest:
Marquis
i liked
Post 173 b/c i was thinking the same thing about nachogami at the time and i'm townreading the ate'ishness of
Post 178 kinda'. not enough legit meaty reads for this to be a great read though.
Performer
ok so when i started putting together this post, i thought this would be a townread b/c his cadence here seems pretty strikingly different from strangercoug's game.
but there are some red flags here
first there's the thing with "brandi's kill." i'm talking about
Post 89. (there's the obvious fact that camn never said that brandi was "town" anywhere in the "flip" but performer assumed brandi was town. that's....uh.... something.) "i'm shocked and horrified"...? hammy. there's
Post 94 where he acknowledges that it could be a reaction test but he goes full steam ahead with the "wtf Y U CLAIM?" line. it's this odd mix of awareness and doing what's "expected."
there's also a couple places where he goes out of his way to ingratiate himself to me:
Post 306,
Post 307
there's stuff that makes me think "could be town" like
Post 408. so i don't know, i feel like THAT'S maybe what i should be going with b/c the brandi thing might be an honest fuck-up?...
specifically, the reaction to the brandi stuff just hit some "informed minority" notes and it really freaks me out and has me second guessing this read
DO NOT TALK TO US (Hydra of lalaladucks and DeathRowKitty)
this hydra's really not on my radar in terms of content.
i played w/ ducks where she was scum recently and she was really detached but that game didn't go well for her at all from beginning to end so dont know how much stock to put into that.
the annoyed pushback on pisskop's early stuff
Post 83 on feels vaguely town
there's not really much beyond that though. from the length of their iso i initially thought they had more content than this. :\
like marquis, this is another one were i need to see more reads to make a better judgement
Tiresias (Hydra of Nachomamma8 and Kagami)
ok, so you remember back in my
Post 280 when i talked about a "maybe scumread"?
nachogami was that maybe scumread.
it was kagami's early ygs read in
Post 128 (which i was kinda questioning at the time). it felt like kagami was a little heavy handed on a not-really-great ygs townread and my first instinct there was "kagami's scum and she's overplaying her omniscience hand." i didn't press it at the time though b/c i wanted to give nacho and kagami room w/o getting on their asses and see what they came up with. nacho's apparent absence kind of foiled that though. :\
i haven't really seen enough of kagami's stuff to get a good grip on what she's REALLY thinking. the perfomer stuff
Post 287 makes enough sense. the reversal on the ygs read in
Post 344 is still bouncing around my head and i still don't get it but i'll give it a while to sink in. admittedly i'm a little drunk rn but it's evading me. she thinks they're scummy because they didn't explicitly acknowledge her townread? that's kind of weak b/c townies ignore townreads on themselves all the time and (conversely) scum pooh-pooh and play devil's advocate on townreads on them all the time. maybe i'm misinterpreting that? again, i'll let that simmer b/c i feel like i'm not quite getting the subtleties here maybe?????
there's not really a realistic chance of me voting them day 1 b/c kagami's really smart and i value her too much as a player to lynch her day 1. there's a lot of question marks surrounding this hydra for me though.
ProHawk
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
ok this guy seems to always be a reads list pitfall for me.
so... i'm already keeping that in mind.
I CAN'T HELP BUT HATE HATE HATE HIS POSTS THOUGH.
jeez.
Post 381 and
Post 382 are pretty soulless summaries. since then he's been exclusively questioning:
Post 384,
Post 385,
Post 435 so i could maybe buy him struggling to get a good handle on what's been happening and 381 and 382 were his attempts at doing so?
i don't know yet. i kind of don't want to prejudice this read before prohawk really says something substantive pbpbpbptpajpspkjksajlfjd;lkafjdsaf
You Got Schooled (Hydra of Bellaphant and BlueBloodedToffee)
best for last, eh?
none of bbt's stuff is really resonating w/ me and his readslist is this weird menagerie of wtf. the only one on there that i may be on board w/ is performer. it's weird to me that you could have BOTH a davsto and fate scumread. i guess you could call it bussing(?) but that's kind of a hard thing to try to root out day 1 so i don't know. this is what i was trying to say in my post a while ago
Post 396 and i'd like to hear what scumhunting framework bbt was working from to give him that.
thing w/ bbt is that he's kind of unfocused and all over the place (which i kind of expect MORE from townbbt than scumbbt).
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BUT I DON'T KNOW
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this is so hard and just the act of doing this makes me feel like a dumb fuck and the remedial scumhunter in this game
if you asked me "who's the most likely to actually BE scum?" i would say tiresias. i just have this sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that something is wrong. i'm not nearly confident in my intuition to actually vote there though.
for performer i'm trying to avoid falling into the trap of "OMGZ HE SCUMSLIPPED" b/c i know MOST of the time whenever i think there's a scumslip it's not real. but i kind of think he slipped. why did he assume brandi was town? and did he ever really think pisskop was being serious? (i wouldn't think so)
there's the drk/ducks hydra that's kind of an empty void in my head.
and there's bellabbt and that read is just frying my brain b/c bbt isn't on my wavelength but i'm not sure if that's b/c he's scum and he's not looking for the same things i am or he's just off
and there's prohawk the perennial HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO SCUMMY KILL THIS NOW KILL THIS WITH FIRE
also it's almost 3 am here and i kind of just want to go to sleep now. my brain's just a pile of mush at this point b/c there's no obvscum place for my vote
i don't know i just have to get some sleep. i'm exhausted and drunk and pretty bummed out.
