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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:35 pm

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VOTE COUNT 1 . 13

  • Antihero
    ---------- 0 ( )
    L- 7

    Performer
    --------- 4 ( Nahdia, Fate, ProHawk, Aiden Stark, )
    L- 3

    pisskop
    ----------- 0 ( )
    L- 7

    Aiden Stark
    ------- 0 ( )
    L- 7

    ProHawk
    ----------- 0 ( )
    L- 7

    Nahdia
    ------------ 1 ( pisskop, )
    L- 6

    You Got Schooled
    -- 2 ( Davsto, Tiresias, )
    L- 5

    Marquis
    ----------- 0 ( )
    L- 7

    DO NOT TALK TO US
    - 3 ( Antihero, Marquis, Performer, )
    L- 4

    Fate
    -------------- 0 ( )
    L- 7

    Tiresias
    ---------- 1 ( You Got Schooled, )
    L- 6

    Davsto
    ------------ 0 ( )
    L- 7


    Not Voting
    - 1 ( DO NOT TALK TO US, )

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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:41 pm

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Holy ****

In post 841, Performer wrote:
In post 828, Davsto wrote:Okai Tire, you were telling the truth. Don't see why you were kicking up such a fuss over a quick mod question but hey ho

Also oh fuck, kuribo, please don't kill me >.>

What a weird post about kuribo killing Davs.

Anyway.

kuribo, your predecessor claimed Doctor for no good reason. Why is this?


When the hell was this?
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:45 pm

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pg. 36- Performer lynch is still a go
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:53 pm

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Yeah the site has probably reached that level Kuribo. Hoping you find that inner peace that lets you wade through it...

One Day More I guess.

I'm not touching Kuribo's slot with a lynch ever.

DNTUS is ??? redeemed by a Performer scum flip maybe. Taking Marqui's claim seriously is pants on head?

Game is still over when [Performer, Prohawk, +Mystery read] are dead
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:25 pm

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In post 835, Performer wrote:Curious question - Davsto, would you say you are more or less the same as last year in playing your town game or did you change drastically?

Eh, my town game tends to be inconsistent in style, especially depending on who I play with (for example, it's often a tad more aggressive when playing with players such as RC). I would say I've improved a decent amount, but my actual style hasn't really "drastically" changed.

Okay Performer's reaction test/role fish was a little very dodgy. But idk if that's not just Performer not really thinking before doing. Admittedly, last time I played with him as scum he did a stupid thing really early, but people who do stupid things as scum tend to do them as town too.

Also, oh dear, kuribo and pisskop in the same game together. Sheesh. Bad.

In post 986, DO NOT TALK TO US wrote:Is it x trackers in the town or x in the game?
Something about this question is a bit off. Hm.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:21 pm

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so uhhh

when you catch up Davsto I'll be waiting for that real post
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:25 pm

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The vast majority of the last bunch of pages was basically pisskop and kuribo yelling at each other.

That's basically useless to me, since I know from experience that pisskop consistently enjoys riling up others, and I know from out-of-game prior knowledge that kuribo gets angry in games and shouts a lot, and that to a large extent his anger is an exaggerated persona, potentially why it came off as "fake".

Fuckall else happened, although I still need to answer Tire's questions.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:26 pm

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oh you've been alurking fuck huh
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:28 pm

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I understand, I skim too, but seriously at least read the highlights of Kuribo not being in this game anymore

"Not a lot else happened" when Kuribo's very presence kicked up a lot more than just giving someone for pisskop to pissoff

you know his claim and all that jazz
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:35 pm

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In post 1007, Fate wrote:oh you've been alurking fuck huh

Lurking when? Over the last 7 or 8 pages?

Because seriously, timezones. Not my fault.

My last post () was at almost midnight last night, just before I went to sleep.

My first post after that, () was at half eight this morning, soon after waking up.

Not lurking. Just sleeping.

A Tracker claim is inconsequential when there are enough town trackers that there literally exists a role in the game that detects how many trackers there are, so there isn't really much to comment on there.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:40 pm

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holy shit

are you all

even


beginning to


I seriously want to lynch everyone that takes Marqui's claim seriously now
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:45 pm

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I mean maybe I read it wrong but it seemed like Marquis was trololololing

then DNTUS took it seriously and wanted clarification on whether it was X trackers in the entire game or X trackers among TOWN members

which WOULD be an important question if Marquis were realclaiming

and then Marquis voted them for taking him seriously.

So now

Marquis is that your actual role or not?

And if so, sharing how many trackers there are with the rest of the town IS actually important
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:57 pm

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Marquis' claim makes sense.

We know from two people claiming Tracker (kuribo and pisskop) that there is more than one Tracker.

Marquis' role makes perfect sense, as it stops the main problem of putting multiple identical town roles in - it stops an inevitable and unfair counterclaim lynch (or maybe even two if town follows it up).

However, it still allows a counterclaim of sorts, since if more trackers claim than Marquis knows exist, then shit goes down.

It makes pretty much perfect sense in a game which - as has been proven - has more than one tracker.

And I assume the reason Marquis voted DNTTS for asking that is because it's pretty damn rolefishing, to go around asking how many town trackers are in the game.

First, a simple question must me asked:

@camn - do players, when lynched or killed, flip with their role PM or not? Do they flip with their role name as it is in their Role PM?


Since it doesn't matter as long as one town member is aware of how many Trackers there are, ideally we want only Marquis to know until Marquis dies, at which point everyone should hopefully know.

Ideally, we can work out a way to make that happen.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:05 pm

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Also Marquis' role could be a scum role, as scum knowing how many trackers there are
does
makes sense. However, I incredibly doubt this.

Even if Marquis is scum, either them or one of the scumteam almost certainly has the knowledge of the number of town Trackers. Otherwise, it would be extremely risky to claim as it could not be backed up.

But if Marquis is scum with that role, why would they claim? I mean, two town have the same role, watch one claim and then get counterclaimed, easy double lynch in most scenarios. The
only
case in which Marquis is scum is if the partner is kuribo, and Marquis was willing to make an amazingly creative and incredibly risky claim just to protect him. And by risky I mean very very very risky - inevitably tying Marquis to him, and if Marquis is found out to be lying scum we already know who his partner likely is.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:59 pm

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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:03 am

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In post 990, pisskop wrote:a psychiatrist is wifomy if not real.

also a good guise for a rolecop claim, but if nacho baited a vig claim. . .?


does anyone see reason to think he made that up on the fly?

the psychiatrist thing is probably true

it also says nothing about nacho's alignment

can this discussion please die now?
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:06 am

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catching up

In post 998, Marquis wrote:nahdia you're vigging do not talk to us tonight. no questions. just do it
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:07 am

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In post 973, Marquis wrote:UNVOTE:

it wasn't a reaction test but i am kind of. torn.

anti help me with where to go from here

the last few pages were exceedingly stupid and kuribo is town.
you're on the right track again, so no harm done.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:10 am

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I don't know man.

If I were scum in this situation I'd just kill Marquis and claim tracker with all the other clowns

and Marquis would die with his precious information, not that its precious since we don't even know if its Trackers "in the game" or town tracker

At this point I just want a flip
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:11 am

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you should also go ahead and claim x marquis

the utility of clearing ppl w/ it exceeds the utility of keeping it a secret.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:12 am

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been quite busy for a new player Nahdia

Nice to meet you

in before Katsuki and white knight claims
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:12 am

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In post 1018, Fate wrote:I don't know man.

If I were scum in this situation I'd just kill Marquis and claim tracker with all the other clowns

and Marquis would die with his precious information, not that its precious since we don't even know if its Trackers "in the game" or town tracker

At this point I just want a flip


>marquis claims
>we flip dnttu

sound like a plan?
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:13 am

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In post 1019, Antihero wrote:you should also go ahead and claim x marquis

the utility of clearing ppl w/ it exceeds the utility of keeping it a secret.


Glad town agrees with me

Davstro thinking it should be kept under wraps was making me ?_?

"ideally we can make a way to make that happen"

idk like Marquis claiming now?
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:14 am

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Yes Antihero DNTU is one of my secret scum reads especially with how sketchy the Performer wagon looks.

But

I still don't like the whole doctor reaction claim test BS
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:20 am

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In post 1022, Fate wrote:"ideally we can make a way to make that happen"

Right so my thought is

Marquis' role is a role that we have no idea what it is, right? Like, we know its title is tracker "something", but not what the something is

So he could do something like "if I flip tracker detector, there are 2 trackers in the game, if I flip tracker radar there are 3 trackers in the game..." etc etc, or it could be the amount of punctuation in one paragraph of his role PM or something like that.

So we only know what the number of trackers are when he feels it necessary to claim because there have been too many tracker claims, or when he dies

...

Am I overthinking this?
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